King of the Hill Mafia

[arogame123]

have we considered spending some time looking into the secondary wolf instead of cannibalizing exclusively between spf and lily or have we collectively decided to be dumb about this

I mean, they have done that themselves tbh lmfao.

But I believe you are town. So if you exclude them, you are looking at Nanook/Seanzie/Rondo.

Tbh, I think Nanook is leaning town now based on my experiment I conducted yesterday and I already explained about it as well.

Additionally I don't think Seanzie/Rondo are w/w for how they talk to each other when one enters the thread. Seems very sassy and they are confused with each other sometimes in where I wouldn't expect partners to be that confused with each other lol.

unnecessary to say for game state purposes or your immediate next sentence purposes.

Why is it unecessary? You asked to look outside of SPF and Lily which would include u as well.

i'm the most lock town player in the game. you have to be yoking me rn

which all you did was agree. it is pointless to say you think i'm town when considering reads at this point in the game unless you'd like to leave it available to walk back later

You are putting words in my mouth lmfao. When did I ever tinfoil you? You have played with me before and you know my posting style and how I present reads. I am very explicit and clear to ensure there are no questions if someone asks "How about Porscha." I had been critiqued in the past about being clear, concise, and including all my spew of thoughts, so I have made better attempts to do that.

Why do you think that is scummy of me to say I believe you are town when I haven't backed on any read about you.

[Lilypetal]

porscha legit if spf is town she is not going to be findable for me alone can u help me understand ur world view??

I have personal feelings that I am relatively good at being able to tell when 2 towns are at each others' throats, it rarely fails me when I see it, and I saw it yesterday between boq vs spf and now with you and spf. spf stronger feeling on individual read and she is the common denominator between both instances. sorry I will not be iso'ing or providing an essay and maybe it's wrong this time but I have yet to see a reason why it's wrong when rondo and sean and aro get to sit here twiddling their thumbs hardly doing anything and I have to pretend like one of them isn't a wolf

okay so who is the wolf team then?

[staypositivefriend]

still waiting for nook to explain which part of my objectively true post was incorrect

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

can u break down why u scumread me in the first place? where does it even stem from?

With all due respect, I think its better for thread and my sanity if I don't directly engage you about why I scumread you atp. I'm really sorry and I know that kinda sucks fypov, especially if you are actually town, but I dont think my mind is going to change atp so we'd very likely just end up in a lengthy back and forth that leaves one or both of us frustrated and possibly feeling badly, so I think I'd rather avoid that, particularly with you because I really enjoy playing mafia with you. I hope this is coming across as intended and not condescending or anything, I feel like I'm writing too formally/stiffly but im just trying to be clear, and make it clear that this is probably just better for everyone involved at this point and isn't an upset thing or done with enmity or whatever

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

ok so who is her partner in your world even tho I think you're wrong

Currently have aro/sean filling out my poe

can I ask why rondo is not possible for you rn

Emphasis on currently lol. Honestly I've only done barebones thinking beyond spf, I wouldn't sheep that poe if I died on the spot as there's a very good chance it would change overnight if spf does flip red

[arogame123]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

porscha legit if spf is town she is not going to be findable for me alone can u help me understand ur world view??

That is why I am saying if you believe in SPF so much, she is likely to die today and then if she does flip town, we are in LyLo.

I have light reasons to tr SPF that I stated yesterday and even today with how she has come out today, but I stated why my vote is on her and I trust in her solve as well. I am working with her in the case where she is town to ensure that LyLo goes well and figure out her solve.

[Porscha]

nook and spf lock town everybody else is debatable

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

I believe you have been sitting quite passively since eod yesterday, which is when it's mattered. Any wolf can make a list and blend in like everybody else. Why aren't you evaluating anyone else when you can't even explain your SR on SPF? why is sean cleared for you? why do you insist that following a dead townie's reads is so super valuable right now when you didnt bother on anyone else who died and flipped town? why are you still sitting here acting like there aren't 2 wolves under our noses and you've straight up admitted to placing a vote on someone you can't SR?

you're plenty capable of SR'ing someone when voting. you're doing it because nobody is making you do anything else, which is why you get to sit pretty and vote SPF without a reason to SR her and not bother solving the game instead.

I'm aware I'm likely NOT capable of convincing everyone else SPF is town. Which is exactly why I won't bother. You're going in circles with me on a silly point. Someone in my position would be feeling pressured to see the game state is bad. It's bad for a reason. It's because it's good for wolves.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Basically because I only get to answer with two names lol

[arogame123]

Also Porscha, do you think the team is me and Rondo then if you have SPF and Nook town and you are unsure on Lily?

[staypositivefriend]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

can u break down why u scumread me in the first place? where does it even stem from?

With all due respect, I think its better for thread and my sanity if I don't directly engage you about why I scumread you atp. I'm really sorry and I know that kinda sucks fypov, especially if you are actually town, but I dont think my mind is going to change atp so we'd very likely just end up in a lengthy back and forth that leaves one or both of us frustrated and possibly feeling badly, so I think I'd rather avoid that, particularly with you because I really enjoy playing mafia with you. I hope this is coming across as intended and not condescending or anything, I feel like I'm writing too formally/stiffly but im just trying to be clear, and make it clear that this is probably just better for everyone involved at this point and isn't an upset thing or done with enmity or whatever

it is rather frustrating since i think youre a confirmation biased town who pushed on me for what are probably bad/misleading reasons and became so confirmation biased that you are both unwilling and unable to consider a perspective outside of your own, which is an attitude that is nearly guaranteed to be game losing and doesn't give me much hope for lylo tomorrow

it's not condescending or anything though, i get it i just wish that you would play differently

[Porscha]

porscha legit if spf is town she is not going to be findable for me alone can u help me understand ur world view??

I have personal feelings that I am relatively good at being able to tell when 2 towns are at each others' throats, it rarely fails me when I see it, and I saw it yesterday between boq vs spf and now with you and spf. spf stronger feeling on individual read and she is the common denominator between both instances. sorry I will not be iso'ing or providing an essay and maybe it's wrong this time but I have yet to see a reason why it's wrong when rondo and sean and aro get to sit here twiddling their thumbs hardly doing anything and I have to pretend like one of them isn't a wolf

okay so who is the wolf team then?

any and all are in poe outside of nook and spf tho you're like third town in my list so that leaves most likely rondo / aro / sean

[Porscha]

Also Porscha, do you think the team is me and Rondo then if you have SPF and Nook town and you are unsure on Lily?

it's possible in my world yes but I think my poe is most likely aro / sean / rondo. could theoretically be any combination there

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

can u break down why u scumread me in the first place? where does it even stem from?

With all due respect, I think its better for thread and my sanity if I don't directly engage you about why I scumread you atp. I'm really sorry and I know that kinda sucks fypov, especially if you are actually town, but I dont think my mind is going to change atp so we'd very likely just end up in a lengthy back and forth that leaves one or both of us frustrated and possibly feeling badly, so I think I'd rather avoid that, particularly with you because I really enjoy playing mafia with you. I hope this is coming across as intended and not condescending or anything, I feel like I'm writing too formally/stiffly but im just trying to be clear, and make it clear that this is probably just better for everyone involved at this point and isn't an upset thing or done with enmity or whatever

it is rather frustrating since i think youre a confirmation biased town who pushed on me for what are probably bad/misleading reasons and became so confirmation biased that you are both unwilling and unable to consider a perspective outside of your own, which is an attitude that is nearly guaranteed to be game losing and doesn't give me much hope for lylo tomorrow

it's not condescending or anything though, i get it i just wish that you would play differently

Tbh part of the consideration is knowing that if we do kill someone else and they flip town, it will be very very hard for me to not want to kill you at f5, so if we're both town it's just kinda game losing most of the time. So yeah. I'm aware that really sucks for you if you're town and if that's the case then im very sorry and will apologize in post, I just don't think I can get past you atp

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am really not going to be able to keep up with this game today so if you could put all your nice little questions into a nice little notepad for me to answer later and tell me if you are mafia or not that would be great

[Porscha]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

porscha legit if spf is town she is not going to be findable for me alone can u help me understand ur world view??

That is why I am saying if you believe in SPF so much, she is likely to die today and then if she does flip town, we are in LyLo.

I have light reasons to tr SPF that I stated yesterday and even today with how she has come out today, but I stated why my vote is on her and I trust in her solve as well. I am working with her in the case where she is town to ensure that LyLo goes well and figure out her solve.

okay so what? that's exactly why I want to be solving outside of SPF's slot????????????????? what are you not getting here??????

this is literally the worst reasoning I have read in like the past week of my 5-6 games going on. there is no universe town aro genuinely believes voting a light TR and not interrogating the rest of the players instead is a good idea and following it up with "oh but i'll be a nice lil pawn and just sheep spf's reads!!!" like how many people do you get to miselim with that premise before you just vote town until wolf win. you did it to boq, doing it to spf, feel like you did it someone else too earlier in game but I won't iso with that many posts to verify it. no no no. my alarm bells are going off here aro you're a wolf

[arogame123]

nook and spf lock town everybody else is debatable

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

I believe you have been sitting quite passively since eod yesterday, which is when it's mattered. Any wolf can make a list and blend in like everybody else. Why aren't you evaluating anyone else when you can't even explain your SR on SPF? why is sean cleared for you? why do you insist that following a dead townie's reads is so super valuable right now when you didnt bother on anyone else who died and flipped town? why are you still sitting here acting like there aren't 2 wolves under our noses and you've straight up admitted to placing a vote on someone you can't SR?

you're plenty capable of SR'ing someone when voting. you're doing it because nobody is making you do anything else, which is why you get to sit pretty and vote SPF without a reason to SR her and not bother solving the game instead.

I'm aware I'm likely NOT capable of convincing everyone else SPF is town. Which is exactly why I won't bother. You're going in circles with me on a silly point. Someone in my position would be feeling pressured to see the game state is bad. It's bad for a reason. It's because it's good for wolves.

Are you serious homie? I am not a confident Sr and I build towncores lmfao. That is my specialty. I am not confident and never have been fully confident in my scum reads in games. I have town reads and like to build a town core and work from there and you should know that having played games with me. Also, I was pretty vocal yesterday as well during EoD and made some noise each day as well despite my low confidence in sr which I am not sure where u get that impression lmfao.

I insisted on following a dead townie's reads since the getgo? I sr Alison day 1, and Jack had Alison as scum, I never let the foot off the gas. Creature also had Alison in a "should be killed situation" and continued that legacy as well. Mac had Alison should always die after Creature if Creature flips town, which I also followed. And today I am doing the same thing, so I am not sure you get the impression where I am not following dead town reads lmfao. Literally also with Lucy, she had SPF/Boq/Lily in her scum list. I re-eval and what is my POE the next day, all 3 of them!!

I have made sr here and there and placed votes. You say I am not bothering to solving the game which is not true. I have been and I was working with SPF earlier to get and better understand her perspective.

And if you think it's good for wolves, then let's case someone outside of SPF and work from there then if that's what you want to do, but that's not my specialty as I stated. I also mentioned this but if we miss outside of SPF and we go into lylo with SPF and she is town, we are literally screwed cause it takes one town to misvote. I stated that earlier as well.

[Lilypetal]

i guess my hang up with spf is why she thinks im wolf

like none of it feels real to me ig

[arogame123]

Also Porscha, do you think the team is me and Rondo then if you have SPF and Nook town and you are unsure on Lily?

it's possible in my world yes but I think my poe is most likely aro / sean / rondo. could theoretically be any combination there

Ok, let's talk about Rondo then, because I have expressed some eerienes about that slot esp towards their treatment of me, and I even stated I moved them up to slight town because of the LEGACIES of Lucy and Mac.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Also Porscha, do you think the team is me and Rondo then if you have SPF and Nook town and you are unsure on Lily?

it's possible in my world yes but I think my poe is most likely aro / sean / rondo. could theoretically be any combination there

Ok, let's talk about Rondo then, because I have expressed some eerienes about that slot esp towards their treatment of me, and I even stated I moved them up to slight town because of the LEGACIES of Lucy and Mac.

oh also that thing you said that was performative was performative thats why it felt performative

[arogame123]

Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

porscha legit if spf is town she is not going to be findable for me alone can u help me understand ur world view??

That is why I am saying if you believe in SPF so much, she is likely to die today and then if she does flip town, we are in LyLo.

I have light reasons to tr SPF that I stated yesterday and even today with how she has come out today, but I stated why my vote is on her and I trust in her solve as well. I am working with her in the case where she is town to ensure that LyLo goes well and figure out her solve.

okay so what? that's exactly why I want to be solving outside of SPF's slot????????????????? what are you not getting here??????

this is literally the worst reasoning I have read in like the past week of my 5-6 games going on. there is no universe town aro genuinely believes voting a light TR and not interrogating the rest of the players instead is a good idea and following it up with "oh but i'll be a nice lil pawn and just sheep spf's reads!!!" like how many people do you get to miselim with that premise before you just vote town until wolf win. you did it to boq, doing it to spf, feel like you did it someone else too earlier in game but I won't iso with that many posts to verify it. no no no. my alarm bells are going off here aro you're a wolf

Nope, I was on Alison throughout the beginning of the game. I have been solving and interacting with SPF mainly you know why? Because everyone else is going to vote her and not many people want to discuss much today and just vote and leave, while I am here attempting to work with SPF despite what is going on.

I am not mafia, but go off bestie.

[arogame123]

Ok, let's do this @Porscha

[unvote]SPF[/unvote]

I am going to another Iranian Demonstration, and I am feeling revolutionary. Fuck this shit. I am town and if you think I am mafia, then let's kill who you believe my partner could be if that's the case.

I agree with you on Nook town. If you think Lily and SPF are both town, then from my POV, it's just Seanzie and Rondo.

So let's talk about who you sr more between them and your views/thoughts there.

Let's change the world huh

[Porscha]

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

I believe you have been sitting quite passively since eod yesterday, which is when it's mattered. Any wolf can make a list and blend in like everybody else. Why aren't you evaluating anyone else when you can't even explain your SR on SPF? why is sean cleared for you? why do you insist that following a dead townie's reads is so super valuable right now when you didnt bother on anyone else who died and flipped town? why are you still sitting here acting like there aren't 2 wolves under our noses and you've straight up admitted to placing a vote on someone you can't SR?

you're plenty capable of SR'ing someone when voting. you're doing it because nobody is making you do anything else, which is why you get to sit pretty and vote SPF without a reason to SR her and not bother solving the game instead.

I'm aware I'm likely NOT capable of convincing everyone else SPF is town. Which is exactly why I won't bother. You're going in circles with me on a silly point. Someone in my position would be feeling pressured to see the game state is bad. It's bad for a reason. It's because it's good for wolves.

Are you serious homie? I am not a confident Sr and I build towncores lmfao. That is my specialty. I am not confident and never have been fully confident in my scum reads in games. I have town reads and like to build a town core and work from there and you should know that having played games with me. Also, I was pretty vocal yesterday as well during EoD and made some noise each day as well despite my low confidence in sr which I am not sure where u get that impression lmfao.

I insisted on following a dead townie's reads since the getgo? I sr Alison day 1, and Jack had Alison as scum, I never let the foot off the gas. Creature also had Alison in a "should be killed situation" and continued that legacy as well. Mac had Alison should always die after Creature if Creature flips town, which I also followed. And today I am doing the same thing, so I am not sure you get the impression where I am not following dead town reads lmfao. Literally also with Lucy, she had SPF/Boq/Lily in her scum list. I re-eval and what is my POE the next day, all 3 of them!!

I have made sr here and there and placed votes. You say I am not bothering to solving the game which is not true. I have been and I was working with SPF earlier to get and better understand her perspective.

And if you think it's good for wolves, then let's case someone outside of SPF and work from there then if that's what you want to do, but that's not my specialty as I stated. I also mentioned this but if we miss outside of SPF and we go into lylo with SPF and she is town, we are literally screwed cause it takes one town to misvote. I stated that earlier as well.

called it. aro has a homie tell

There are so few people left in the game that any player who plays with that play style will have a fairly confident list of who is town and who isn't. There's 7 people left, aro. How long is it going to take you to have a strong enough towncore to stop playing dumb? f5? you're happy to wait until f5? right, cuz you won't get NK'd, cuz you're a wolf.

and yet you have no reason to SR her but you have reason to vote her? and that one reason is carry legacy? if you cared about carrying her legacy, you wouldn't be voting for her.

you actually have the most wet noodle stance on spf right now. i'm not worried about the other town in lylo, because any plays they make aren't my problem. If I don't die tonight, I'm burying the wolves tomorrow and I doubt, as the most TR'd person in the game, that I don't die tonight. the poe has to be kept open, and I'm not in a poe, so I will be eliminated. and "specialty"?? what specialty? not tunneling an obv!town when it's convenient for you?

[Porscha]

Also Porscha, do you think the team is me and Rondo then if you have SPF and Nook town and you are unsure on Lily?

it's possible in my world yes but I think my poe is most likely aro / sean / rondo. could theoretically be any combination there

Ok, let's talk about Rondo then, because I have expressed some eerienes about that slot esp towards their treatment of me, and I even stated I moved them up to slight town because of the LEGACIES of Lucy and Mac.

oh also that thing you said that was performative was performative thats why it felt performative

yeah for sure. no sarcasm btw

[arogame123]

@Porscha I am being serious btw.

[Porscha]

Ok, let's do this @Porscha

[unvote]SPF[/unvote]

I am going to another Iranian Demonstration, and I am feeling revolutionary. Fuck this shit. I am town and if you think I am mafia, then let's kill who you believe my partner could be if that's the case.

I agree with you on Nook town. If you think Lily and SPF are both town, then from my POV, it's just Seanzie and Rondo.

So let's talk about who you sr more between them and your views/thoughts there.

Let's change the world huh

ya but i'm changing the world with you in my poe. so why don't you start with how you aren't partnered with sean or rondo

[arogame123]

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

I believe you have been sitting quite passively since eod yesterday, which is when it's mattered. Any wolf can make a list and blend in like everybody else. Why aren't you evaluating anyone else when you can't even explain your SR on SPF? why is sean cleared for you? why do you insist that following a dead townie's reads is so super valuable right now when you didnt bother on anyone else who died and flipped town? why are you still sitting here acting like there aren't 2 wolves under our noses and you've straight up admitted to placing a vote on someone you can't SR?

you're plenty capable of SR'ing someone when voting. you're doing it because nobody is making you do anything else, which is why you get to sit pretty and vote SPF without a reason to SR her and not bother solving the game instead.

I'm aware I'm likely NOT capable of convincing everyone else SPF is town. Which is exactly why I won't bother. You're going in circles with me on a silly point. Someone in my position would be feeling pressured to see the game state is bad. It's bad for a reason. It's because it's good for wolves.

Are you serious homie? I am not a confident Sr and I build towncores lmfao. That is my specialty. I am not confident and never have been fully confident in my scum reads in games. I have town reads and like to build a town core and work from there and you should know that having played games with me. Also, I was pretty vocal yesterday as well during EoD and made some noise each day as well despite my low confidence in sr which I am not sure where u get that impression lmfao.

I insisted on following a dead townie's reads since the getgo? I sr Alison day 1, and Jack had Alison as scum, I never let the foot off the gas. Creature also had Alison in a "should be killed situation" and continued that legacy as well. Mac had Alison should always die after Creature if Creature flips town, which I also followed. And today I am doing the same thing, so I am not sure you get the impression where I am not following dead town reads lmfao. Literally also with Lucy, she had SPF/Boq/Lily in her scum list. I re-eval and what is my POE the next day, all 3 of them!!

I have made sr here and there and placed votes. You say I am not bothering to solving the game which is not true. I have been and I was working with SPF earlier to get and better understand her perspective.

And if you think it's good for wolves, then let's case someone outside of SPF and work from there then if that's what you want to do, but that's not my specialty as I stated. I also mentioned this but if we miss outside of SPF and we go into lylo with SPF and she is town, we are literally screwed cause it takes one town to misvote. I stated that earlier as well.

called it. aro has a homie tell

There are so few people left in the game that any player who plays with that play style will have a fairly confident list of who is town and who isn't. There's 7 people left, aro. How long is it going to take you to have a strong enough towncore to stop playing dumb? f5? you're happy to wait until f5? right, cuz you won't get NK'd, cuz you're a wolf.

and yet you have no reason to SR her but you have reason to vote her? and that one reason is carry legacy? if you cared about carrying her legacy, you wouldn't be voting for her.

you actually have the most wet noodle stance on spf right now. i'm not worried about the other town in lylo, because any plays they make aren't my problem. If I don't die tonight, I'm burying the wolves tomorrow and I doubt, as the most TR'd person in the game, that I don't die tonight. the poe has to be kept open, and I'm not in a poe, so I will be eliminated. and "specialty"?? what specialty? not tunneling an obv!town when it's convenient for you?

You say I have a homie tell but I have never played with you in a game where I was mafia lmfao. You can't say I have a "tell" when it's not true. Please screenshot a game where I was mafia when I said "homie."

Also, I have said my town list many times lmfao. You keep saying I don't have a stance when I do and have explicitly stated my POE and towns. You keep calling me out for legacy when this whole game I have mainly played and made reads off legacies. My entire town gameplay is listening to townies and their voices and keeping their reads close. That is my style lmfao. I am the embodiment of a townie spirit. Idk if I have to post my town and POE list like 6 more times for you to see my stance. It's getting kinda frustrating now lol.

I have said this before Porscha, in a world where SPF is town and we miss outside of her today, she likely gets misvoted for the mafia win in F5. Idk why that is so hard for you to understand lol. I have made thatt very clear as well.

But I do love this pressure tho, keep it coming. Cause everyone that knows me, knows that I love when being put on the spotlight hehe, and I am glad you have given it to me this game. Let's have some fun hehehe.

As I mentioned, I hope SPF and Boq are both town because this game will be a lot more fun and you are giving it to me.

[arogame123]

Ok, let's do this @Porscha

[unvote]SPF[/unvote]

I am going to another Iranian Demonstration, and I am feeling revolutionary. Fuck this shit. I am town and if you think I am mafia, then let's kill who you believe my partner could be if that's the case.

I agree with you on Nook town. If you think Lily and SPF are both town, then from my POV, it's just Seanzie and Rondo.

So let's talk about who you sr more between them and your views/thoughts there.

Let's change the world huh

ya but i'm changing the world with you in my poe. so why don't you start with how you aren't partnered with sean or rondo

Well as I said I am town, and if you think I am mafia, then you believe my partner is between Sean and Rondo right?

I think I am clearly not with Rondo based on how they started off the game with a strong tr on me only to drop it when they saw Mac, "who they didn't tr" have a sr on me towards day 2. Additionally, Rondo kept shading me when we had the exact same perspective and from then on kind of started throwing me into POE. Additionally, Rondo has been very passive aggressive towards my slot throughout the entire game lol. I think it's pretty obvious there.

With Seanzie, the biggest thing I could say is they were the first ones to start pushing on me and then based on my reaction, they started pushing more and more and got Mac involved into Sr me. Additionally, I stated my read about the meta and all that and they were questioning whether I read his games or what not and put attention where if we are partners, there is no reason to put attention there.


But as to which one I believe is more mafia, I believe Rondo is likelier to be mafia than Seanzie.

[Porscha]

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

I believe you have been sitting quite passively since eod yesterday, which is when it's mattered. Any wolf can make a list and blend in like everybody else. Why aren't you evaluating anyone else when you can't even explain your SR on SPF? why is sean cleared for you? why do you insist that following a dead townie's reads is so super valuable right now when you didnt bother on anyone else who died and flipped town? why are you still sitting here acting like there aren't 2 wolves under our noses and you've straight up admitted to placing a vote on someone you can't SR?

you're plenty capable of SR'ing someone when voting. you're doing it because nobody is making you do anything else, which is why you get to sit pretty and vote SPF without a reason to SR her and not bother solving the game instead.

I'm aware I'm likely NOT capable of convincing everyone else SPF is town. Which is exactly why I won't bother. You're going in circles with me on a silly point. Someone in my position would be feeling pressured to see the game state is bad. It's bad for a reason. It's because it's good for wolves.

Are you serious homie? I am not a confident Sr and I build towncores lmfao. That is my specialty. I am not confident and never have been fully confident in my scum reads in games. I have town reads and like to build a town core and work from there and you should know that having played games with me. Also, I was pretty vocal yesterday as well during EoD and made some noise each day as well despite my low confidence in sr which I am not sure where u get that impression lmfao.

I insisted on following a dead townie's reads since the getgo? I sr Alison day 1, and Jack had Alison as scum, I never let the foot off the gas. Creature also had Alison in a "should be killed situation" and continued that legacy as well. Mac had Alison should always die after Creature if Creature flips town, which I also followed. And today I am doing the same thing, so I am not sure you get the impression where I am not following dead town reads lmfao. Literally also with Lucy, she had SPF/Boq/Lily in her scum list. I re-eval and what is my POE the next day, all 3 of them!!

I have made sr here and there and placed votes. You say I am not bothering to solving the game which is not true. I have been and I was working with SPF earlier to get and better understand her perspective.

And if you think it's good for wolves, then let's case someone outside of SPF and work from there then if that's what you want to do, but that's not my specialty as I stated. I also mentioned this but if we miss outside of SPF and we go into lylo with SPF and she is town, we are literally screwed cause it takes one town to misvote. I stated that earlier as well.

called it. aro has a homie tell

There are so few people left in the game that any player who plays with that play style will have a fairly confident list of who is town and who isn't. There's 7 people left, aro. How long is it going to take you to have a strong enough towncore to stop playing dumb? f5? you're happy to wait until f5? right, cuz you won't get NK'd, cuz you're a wolf.

and yet you have no reason to SR her but you have reason to vote her? and that one reason is carry legacy? if you cared about carrying her legacy, you wouldn't be voting for her.

you actually have the most wet noodle stance on spf right now. i'm not worried about the other town in lylo, because any plays they make aren't my problem. If I don't die tonight, I'm burying the wolves tomorrow and I doubt, as the most TR'd person in the game, that I don't die tonight. the poe has to be kept open, and I'm not in a poe, so I will be eliminated. and "specialty"?? what specialty? not tunneling an obv!town when it's convenient for you?

You say I have a homie tell but I have never played with you in a game where I was mafia lmfao. You can't say I have a "tell" when it's not true. Please screenshot a game where I was mafia when I said "homie."

Also, I have said my town list many times lmfao. You keep saying I don't have a stance when I do and have explicitly stated my POE and towns. You keep calling me out for legacy when this whole game I have mainly played and made reads off legacies. My entire town gameplay is listening to townies and their voices and keeping their reads close. That is my style lmfao. I am the embodiment of a townie spirit. Idk if I have to post my town and POE list like 6 more times for you to see my stance. It's getting kinda frustrating now lol.

I have said this before Porscha, in a world where SPF is town and we miss outside of her today, she likely gets misvoted for the mafia win in F5. Idk why that is so hard for you to understand lol. I have made thatt very clear as well.

But I do love this pressure tho, keep it coming. Cause everyone that knows me, knows that I love when being put on the spotlight hehe, and I am glad you have given it to me this game. Let's have some fun hehehe.

As I mentioned, I hope SPF and Boq are both town because this game will be a lot more fun and you are giving it to me.

Ah well maybe I can screen shot it after this game, eh?

I think town aro doesn't sheep other dead town into a good game state for wolf and instead has a lot of his own opinions. I don't think i've seen a list from you today. I don't want one from yesterday, I want one from today. please quote it if you already made one and I forgot / didn't see it.

I'm also aware that spf has a chance of getting misvoted in lylo. I think spf hasn't been NK'd because she's in a lot of controversy and poe. but you aren't, aro. and yet... here we are. huge game presence as far as word and vote count, but has shown no worry of getting NK'd at any point.

If we vote outside of spf today and we flip a wolf, do you think spf is still highly likely to go over in lylo? and of course you and her would both be there. would you be the "townie" to mistakenly misvote spf off the island? the best way to get focus off of spf and her 2 tunnelers is for us to find the other wolf and actually push people to state strong opinions. it isn't to towncase her and appeal to the tunnelers. we need the game state to change to a broader view instead of a tunneler's view. I think lily and nook are both plenty capable of doing this, even if they disagree with me on it today.

[arogame123]

Man oh man, I thought this day would be boring without much action, but this day just became a whole lot of fun and now it's exciting. Give me all you got @Porscha . I want to be great and let's make greatness happen baby hehe.

[Porscha]

Man oh man, I thought this day would be boring without much action, but this day just became a whole lot of fun and now it's exciting. Give me all you got @Porscha . I want to be great and let's make greatness happen baby hehe.

pocket denied

[arogame123]

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

I believe you have been sitting quite passively since eod yesterday, which is when it's mattered. Any wolf can make a list and blend in like everybody else. Why aren't you evaluating anyone else when you can't even explain your SR on SPF? why is sean cleared for you? why do you insist that following a dead townie's reads is so super valuable right now when you didnt bother on anyone else who died and flipped town? why are you still sitting here acting like there aren't 2 wolves under our noses and you've straight up admitted to placing a vote on someone you can't SR?

you're plenty capable of SR'ing someone when voting. you're doing it because nobody is making you do anything else, which is why you get to sit pretty and vote SPF without a reason to SR her and not bother solving the game instead.

I'm aware I'm likely NOT capable of convincing everyone else SPF is town. Which is exactly why I won't bother. You're going in circles with me on a silly point. Someone in my position would be feeling pressured to see the game state is bad. It's bad for a reason. It's because it's good for wolves.

Are you serious homie? I am not a confident Sr and I build towncores lmfao. That is my specialty. I am not confident and never have been fully confident in my scum reads in games. I have town reads and like to build a town core and work from there and you should know that having played games with me. Also, I was pretty vocal yesterday as well during EoD and made some noise each day as well despite my low confidence in sr which I am not sure where u get that impression lmfao.

I insisted on following a dead townie's reads since the getgo? I sr Alison day 1, and Jack had Alison as scum, I never let the foot off the gas. Creature also had Alison in a "should be killed situation" and continued that legacy as well. Mac had Alison should always die after Creature if Creature flips town, which I also followed. And today I am doing the same thing, so I am not sure you get the impression where I am not following dead town reads lmfao. Literally also with Lucy, she had SPF/Boq/Lily in her scum list. I re-eval and what is my POE the next day, all 3 of them!!

I have made sr here and there and placed votes. You say I am not bothering to solving the game which is not true. I have been and I was working with SPF earlier to get and better understand her perspective.

And if you think it's good for wolves, then let's case someone outside of SPF and work from there then if that's what you want to do, but that's not my specialty as I stated. I also mentioned this but if we miss outside of SPF and we go into lylo with SPF and she is town, we are literally screwed cause it takes one town to misvote. I stated that earlier as well.

called it. aro has a homie tell

There are so few people left in the game that any player who plays with that play style will have a fairly confident list of who is town and who isn't. There's 7 people left, aro. How long is it going to take you to have a strong enough towncore to stop playing dumb? f5? you're happy to wait until f5? right, cuz you won't get NK'd, cuz you're a wolf.

and yet you have no reason to SR her but you have reason to vote her? and that one reason is carry legacy? if you cared about carrying her legacy, you wouldn't be voting for her.

you actually have the most wet noodle stance on spf right now. i'm not worried about the other town in lylo, because any plays they make aren't my problem. If I don't die tonight, I'm burying the wolves tomorrow and I doubt, as the most TR'd person in the game, that I don't die tonight. the poe has to be kept open, and I'm not in a poe, so I will be eliminated. and "specialty"?? what specialty? not tunneling an obv!town when it's convenient for you?

You say I have a homie tell but I have never played with you in a game where I was mafia lmfao. You can't say I have a "tell" when it's not true. Please screenshot a game where I was mafia when I said "homie."

Also, I have said my town list many times lmfao. You keep saying I don't have a stance when I do and have explicitly stated my POE and towns. You keep calling me out for legacy when this whole game I have mainly played and made reads off legacies. My entire town gameplay is listening to townies and their voices and keeping their reads close. That is my style lmfao. I am the embodiment of a townie spirit. Idk if I have to post my town and POE list like 6 more times for you to see my stance. It's getting kinda frustrating now lol.

I have said this before Porscha, in a world where SPF is town and we miss outside of her today, she likely gets misvoted for the mafia win in F5. Idk why that is so hard for you to understand lol. I have made thatt very clear as well.

But I do love this pressure tho, keep it coming. Cause everyone that knows me, knows that I love when being put on the spotlight hehe, and I am glad you have given it to me this game. Let's have some fun hehehe.

As I mentioned, I hope SPF and Boq are both town because this game will be a lot more fun and you are giving it to me.

Ah well maybe I can screen shot it after this game, eh?

I think town aro doesn't sheep other dead town into a good game state for wolf and instead has a lot of his own opinions. I don't think i've seen a list from you today. I don't want one from yesterday, I want one from today. please quote it if you already made one and I forgot / didn't see it.

I'm also aware that spf has a chance of getting misvoted in lylo. I think spf hasn't been NK'd because she's in a lot of controversy and poe. but you aren't, aro. and yet... here we are. huge game presence as far as word and vote count, but has shown no worry of getting NK'd at any point.

If we vote outside of spf today and we flip a wolf, do you think spf is still highly likely to go over in lylo? and of course you and her would both be there. would you be the "townie" to mistakenly misvote spf off the island? the best way to get focus off of spf and her 2 tunnelers is for us to find the other wolf and actually push people to state strong opinions. it isn't to towncase her and appeal to the tunnelers. we need the game state to change to a broader view instead of a tunneler's view. I think lily and nook are both plenty capable of doing this, even if they disagree with me on it today.

See, your homie read isn't true at all and you know that lol. You are just a bit biased towards me and you "want me to be mafia."

Also, you should read my town games from champs and you will see that is how I base my play a lot. It sucks I can't make quotes from MU to here, but your thought is incorrect. You are making assumptions about what u persume my play to be when I embody the town spirit and make sure all the dead townie voices are heard and I do "sheep other town" and "base my reads off them" you'd see that in the town games I linked. Additionally, Porscha, I haven't been top town and have been thrown around in POE here and there. And I am not throwing shade, but if you are considered "lock town" shouldn't you have been dead after Alison lmfao? Come on now.

I have clearly shown worry of getting NK'd by posting a legacy each day before EoD and you know it too. I have given my opinions on both sides of a potential flip of the pending player and have given my thoughts.

If we vote outside of SPF and flip a mafia, there will be no Lylo tomorrow and it becomes a re-eval game lol. It depends on who we kill and their flip. And see, to your last points, I play a different style, so me not macthing with it, shouldn't make me mafia to you, it's just how I play the game and it's evident in my town champ games. Oddly enough, I believe Nanook and SPF have speccd some of my town games in champs and they can vouch for that lol. And that is why now I am willing to do what you stated as I am feeling revolutionary and want to change the world not only just in the game.

[arogame123]

So @Porscha , when I was talking how it was weird that Lily would hold onto their read and not out it till tomorrow assuming that she wouldn't be NK'd. Especially in the world where SPF dies and flips mafia, that Lily was heavily expecting to happen. Why did you react with a "burn this with gasoline and light match"?

[arogame123]

I'm him
I'm him
I'm him.

Let's get this shit, I'm hype. Holy fuck.

I have to go to bed early cause I have to wake up early tomorrow for the event, and I won't be on for majority of tomorrow. I'll be on very late at night tomorrow if I can. So if you have any other pressing questions Porscha-sama, let me know!

Also, I was kinda thinking about it, besides the tinfoil I had on Lily/SPF, even in the world where if SPF is mafia, Nook, Lily, Porscha are town and her partners is very likely just between Porscha and Seanzie lol

[arogame123]

I'm him
I'm him
I'm him.

Let's get this shit, I'm hype. Holy fuck.

I have to go to bed early cause I have to wake up early tomorrow for the event, and I won't be on for majority of tomorrow. I'll be on very late at night tomorrow if I can. So if you have any other pressing questions Porscha-sama, let me know!

Also, I was kinda thinking about it, besides the tinfoil I had on Lily/SPF, even in the world where if SPF is mafia, Nook, Lily, Porscha are town and her partners is very likely just between Rondo and Seanzie lol

EBWOP lol

[Porscha]

So @Porscha , when I was talking how it was weird that Lily would hold onto their read and not out it till tomorrow assuming that she wouldn't be NK'd. Especially in the world where SPF dies and flips mafia, that Lily was heavily expecting to happen. Why did you react with a "burn this with gasoline and light match"?

no lily saying that shit about not revealing and waiting was ridiculous and anti town for sure. I disagreed on them being w/w

[Porscha]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

[arogame123]

Also @staypositivefriend when you have the chance, could you discuss why you have Seanzie over Rondo as scum and partnered to Lily from your pov? Do you have Seanzie mainly because of partner interactions and associations with Alison/Lily (fypov) and potential dissociations with Rondo from Alison/Lily (fypov)? Are there any indpendent sr you have that make you have Seanzie over Rondo?

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

[arogame123]

So @Porscha , when I was talking how it was weird that Lily would hold onto their read and not out it till tomorrow assuming that she wouldn't be NK'd. Especially in the world where SPF dies and flips mafia, that Lily was heavily expecting to happen. Why did you react with a "burn this with gasoline and light match"?

no lily saying that shit about not revealing and waiting was ridiculous and anti town for sure. I disagreed on them being w/w

oh ok, gotcha

[Porscha]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

oh okay yeah aro give me 30 hours in the day and it'll happen

[Porscha]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

oh okay yeah aro give me 30 hours in the day and it'll happen

Lol, I am not saying read the whole game, but a quick skim of my ISO. I have responded to each of your questions to the best of my ability. And in regards to your cocnerns of what "town!Aro" would do when I have discussed this is how my style is in referencing my other town champ games that I have posted here have similar correlation and you are telling me because you won't check it which makes it moot is then something I can't help you with. I have given you the facts in regards to that.

Additionally, you were also on me for "twiddling" my thumbs in the game state with SPF, but I have clearly made an attempt to engage with them and discuss with them about their reads and POE. I haven't just sat back with my vote and done nothing. In fact, I have done more with SPF in discussion with them about their state of the game than anyone else has.

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

Also, if we want to talk about optimal, with your two tr of Lily and Nanook tunneling SPF rn, if you wanted to move the vote and kill someone outside and let's say you kill me for example. I die and flip town and then you go into f5 where if you believe SPF is town, mafia are likely to win because it takes only one town to misvote.

I stated this reasoning earlier as well as to why I was on SPF in addition to legacy, but if we hit outside great you know, works out. But if we vote outside and miss and if SPF is town, we just straight up lose. So that's why in theory it is the optimal play.

And if you want to say I haven't been doing much outside, that's not true. Because I have been discussing with SPF of her reads and better understanding her POV and game state in the event if she does flip town to better prepare myself if I am alive in Lylo.

[Porscha]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

[Porscha]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

so you need to learn to scum hunt. there's only 7 people. your poe can't be that big.

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

Right and I get that, which is why I want to work with you on focusing/discussing about Rondo/Seanzie as well.

Another thing I wanted to ask and maybe this is to challenge your reads a bit Porscha. FYPOV, seeing as how Wilgy wanted to kill SPF today if Boq flipped town and seeing as how you are a defender for SPF and you are considered top town, why do you think mafia killed Wilgy over you if they could have just gotten more votes onto SPF if she is town and head into Lylo? If SPF is town, what other reason do you believe you are alive and which of your reads could be wrong if that's the case or do you think it is something entirely different?

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

so you need to learn to scum hunt. there's only 7 people. your poe can't be that big.

I mean my POE is 3 people and we have 3 kills like I have stated before.

And I am trying to get better at scum hunting and attempting to learn from others, but I tend to stick with my strengths, but I promise it's a process that I am learning in trying to get better at. I have always been the find town type of guy and then form a POE and kill whoever is in there. That is mainly because I am more confident in my ability to find town.

Rn I have you/Nanook/Seanzie as town.

I have Rondo/Lily/SPF as POE.

The other thing I will say Porscha is that from my POV, if you believe that Lily and SPF are both t/t, that means the scum team would be Seanzie/Rondo. But I explained earlier why I believe they are not w/w and maybe I can talk to you more about that of why I feel that way, because either I am wrong on the dissacociation read or you are incorrect on Lily/SPF being t/t.

With Seanzie, what are the reasons you believe Seanzie is scummy and you don't believe he is towny?

[Porscha]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

Right and I get that, which is why I want to work with you on focusing/discussing about Rondo/Seanzie as well.

Another thing I wanted to ask and maybe this is to challenge your reads a bit Porscha. FYPOV, seeing as how Wilgy wanted to kill SPF today if Boq flipped town and seeing as how you are a defender for SPF and you are considered top town, why do you think mafia killed Wilgy over you if they could have just gotten more votes onto SPF if she is town and head into Lylo? If SPF is town, what other reason do you believe you are alive and which of your reads could be wrong if that's the case or do you think it is something entirely different?

no it's a good question and i've considered the question but I have chosen to not spend time answering it to myself yet so I don't have an answer for you yet either

[arogame123]

also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

Right and I get that, which is why I want to work with you on focusing/discussing about Rondo/Seanzie as well.

Another thing I wanted to ask and maybe this is to challenge your reads a bit Porscha. FYPOV, seeing as how Wilgy wanted to kill SPF today if Boq flipped town and seeing as how you are a defender for SPF and you are considered top town, why do you think mafia killed Wilgy over you if they could have just gotten more votes onto SPF if she is town and head into Lylo? If SPF is town, what other reason do you believe you are alive and which of your reads could be wrong if that's the case or do you think it is something entirely different?

no it's a good question and i've considered the question but I have chosen to not spend time answering it to myself yet so I don't have an answer for you yet either

Yea, that's fine. I just wanted you to think about that and see what u think. Lmk when you get the chance to come around it.