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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Day 3]

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fingersplints wrote: Russ, still isn't feeling good to me. I feel like he kind of abandoned his suspicion of me to jump on the Boogs thing, who he thought was a civvie before, and now is back to me. Idk something just seems very inconsistent and suspicious to me there. His reason to suspect me have also been very flimsy, and the first day he voted me untrue. I don't want this just to be a "he suspects me so I suspect him" which it isn't because I don't even suspect Made who is also throwing my name out all willynilly.
sabie. She has gotten a lot of attention, and has narrowly missed being lynched several times now. (not this last day) Her responses haven't been that convincing so I don't see how this is possible if she didn't have teammates backing her up.
2 major misrepresentations here. The firs tone is about me, so I'll address it first. I didn't "jump on the Boogs thing". I voted him, but if you'd care to reread my posts, I was pretty against it from the start. I figured Boogs had at best a 25% chance of being bad. I was just even more against lynching llama or Made, so I voted Boogs to remove doubt that either or them would be lynched. You're right, that lynch was a clusterfuck.

Let's be honest with each other: you suspect me because I voted you on Day 2 and tried to encourage others to vote you on Day 3. You can say Made is after you too, but it's not nearly as hard, and that's why you're not suspicious of him. I'll be honest too: I still suspect you and have always suspected you this game. I backed off you pretty hard yesterday after seeing you be defended by multiple people, S~V~S most prominent among them, and because I started taking a ton of heat for it. I don't have a strong case on you yet, and can't seem to get any support for a lynch of you or MM. Until I do, I'm willing to see how you play and consider whether you might be civ. In the meantime, I'm not trying to be lynched over it.

As for sable, don't misinterpret this as a defense of her (she's also near the top of my list for tomorrow), but it's just not mathematically possible that she's "narrowly missed being lynched several times now" but not yesterday. There have only been 2 other lynches. Saying people have been saving her using these bros (incorrect) generalizations without giving any numbers or vote times is the kind of dangerous language that gets people lynched when well-meaning divs aren't paying enough attention to fact check on their own, so if you'e a civ it'd be great for us all if you wouldn't do that.
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One unique solution per person please.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Epignosis wrote:One unique solution per person please.
And use different numbers. Not the same ones switched around. :p
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Russ, if you can suspect me based off tone and vibes why is it incorrect for me to do the same for you?
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Day 3]

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I'll address this more in detail now:
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fingersplints wrote: Russ, still isn't feeling good to me. I feel like he kind of abandoned his suspicion of me to jump on the Boogs thing, who he thought was a civvie before, and now is back to me. Idk something just seems very inconsistent and suspicious to me there. His reason to suspect me have also been very flimsy, and the first day he voted me untrue. I don't want this just to be a "he suspects me so I suspect him" which it isn't because I don't even suspect Made who is also throwing my name out all willynilly.
sabie. She has gotten a lot of attention, and has narrowly missed being lynched several times now. (not this last day) Her responses haven't been that convincing so I don't see how this is possible if she didn't have teammates backing her up.
2 major misrepresentations here. The firs tone is about me, so I'll address it first. I didn't "jump on the Boogs thing". I voted him, but if you'd care to reread my posts, I was pretty against it from the start. I figured Boogs had at best a 25% chance of being bad. I was just even more against lynching llama or Made, so I voted Boogs to remove doubt that either or them would be lynched. You're right, that lynch was a clusterfuck.
If you thoughts Boogs was likely to be a civvie, based on his earlier comment, he was likely to be Ganon or a guardian. Llama and Made, even though they may be civvies, still have a chance of being underground/overworld which can essentially be a vanilla civvie at this point. So if you really thought them all to be civvies, voting Boogs was the WORST option out of the three. :shrug:
Russtifinko wrote:Let's be honest with each other: you suspect me because I voted you on Day 2 and tried to encourage others to vote you on Day 3. You can say Made is after you too, but it's not nearly as hard, and that's why you're not suspicious of him. I'll be honest too: I still suspect you and have always suspected you this game. I backed off you pretty hard yesterday after seeing you be defended by multiple people, S~V~S most prominent among them, and because I started taking a ton of heat for it. I don't have a strong case on you yet, and can't seem to get any support for a lynch of you or MM. Until I do, I'm willing to see how you play and consider whether you might be civ. In the meantime, I'm not trying to be lynched over it.
I have been nothing but honest this game. It doesn't take someone going after me hard for me to suspect them as you have suggested, which I disagree that you have been doing. Someone who is "going after someone hard" doesn't randomly drop their suspicion mid day when its apparent they are not getting anyone to follow them. I don't suspect Made because I don't see why a baddie would act as he did yesterday. :shrug:
Russtifinko wrote:As for sable, don't misinterpret this as a defense of her (she's also near the top of my list for tomorrow), but it's just not mathematically possible that she's "narrowly missed being lynched several times now" but not yesterday. There have only been 2 other lynches. Saying people have been saving her using these bros (incorrect) generalizations without giving any numbers or vote times is the kind of dangerous language that gets people lynched when well-meaning divs aren't paying enough attention to fact check on their own, so if you'e a civ it'd be great for us all if you wouldn't do that.
People can check the votes themselves. There is a thread specifically for that. I don't see why I need to copy and paste things into this thread for my points to be valid. The first two lynches felt like pushes to save sabie to me. You are welcome to feel otherwise, but since I don't feel great about you your continued defense of her doesn't help her at all in my eyes. :)
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Dom wrote:Splints, you're right.
:hugs: yay for being right :yay:

I don't have a read on you either way, but your play style this game made sense to me. :srsnod:
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Epignosis wrote:I am extending Night 3 to 7pm EST. This will put us where I want us to be for Host posts. Also, there may be more than one solution. Five bonus rupees to anyone who PMs me first with each solution.
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Gah! I meant 7pm EST tomorrow evening. So very sorry. Post edited.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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I haven't PM'd any answer in, Made, so if someone stole it it wasn't me.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Day 2]

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fingersplints wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:As for sable, don't misinterpret this as a defense of her (she's also near the top of my list for tomorrow), but it's just not mathematically possible that she's "narrowly missed being lynched several times now" but not yesterday. There have only been 2 other lynches. Saying people have been saving her using these bros (incorrect) generalizations without giving any numbers or vote times is the kind of dangerous language that gets people lynched when well-meaning divs aren't paying enough attention to fact check on their own, so if you'e a civ it'd be great for us all if you wouldn't do that.
People can check the votes themselves. There is a thread specifically for that. I don't see why I need to copy and paste things into this thread for my points to be valid. The first two lynches felt like pushes to save sabie to me. You are welcome to feel otherwise, but since I don't feel great about you your continued defense of her doesn't help her at all in my eyes. :)
I feel the same. However, I also feel you were a part (even if that part was to be a springboard for a bandwagon) of one such push:
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sabie12 wrote:No deaths good good. Now to figure out who are the baddies. Hmmm
As Rob is fond of saying when he is playing instead of hosting, what is the point of this post? I'm always suspicious of posts that appear designed to raise post count and give the illusion of contribution without actually saying anything.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Yes, I know. :) I fully take responsibility for being wrong about hedgeowl. I respect and appreciate you being wary of me for my part, and I ask you to consider the others who jumped on it with less conviction/reasoning then me. I believe I have, and will continue to, explained my part/thoughts on that lynch.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Splints, MR, Dom, Submit answers ._.


Also, As i'm not quite sure what everyone's going on about, I think that figuring out who wanted to push a Boog lynch, and who backed it would be the best place to start figuring out. I also think that holding this discussion off till tomorrow is in our best interest. Especially considering the death of MP last night.
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Made wrote:Splints, MR, Dom, Submit answers ._.


Also, As i'm not quite sure what everyone's going on about, I think that figuring out who wanted to push a Boog lynch, and who backed it would be the best place to start figuring out. I also think that holding this discussion off till tomorrow is in our best interest. Especially considering the death of MP last night.
I still don't understand the puzzle. I'll look at it after I shower and watch OUAT to see if I can figure it out.

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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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I don't understand this puzzle thing AT ALL.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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LizKeen wrote:I don't understand this puzzle thing AT ALL.
Basically, it's like sudoku combined with a word search. the goal is to get number that add up to the number either on top or next to it, so for example
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1+ 8 =9
8+1+4+3+5= 21


Now you can't turn in this submission, but you could change it to like
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Erm crossword, not word search
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I applaud your ability to do it. Sudoku gives me a headache.
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LizKeen wrote:I applaud your ability to do it. Sudoku gives me a headache.
I fucking hate Sudoku....
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Okay I was waiting on confirmation from the host well I could tell or not but choosing Manji the other day gave me the answer to one square so with your helpful hint from earlier I'm going to give this a shot. Am I the only who chose that option during that vote?
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LizKeen wrote:Okay I was waiting on confirmation from the host well I could tell or not but choosing Manji the other day gave me the answer to one square so with your helpful hint from earlier I'm going to give this a shot. Am I the only who chose that option during that vote?
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Well that sucks.
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fingersplints wrote:No, Elo, I haven't played with you much. I do not know that you are always accused for that. Thanks for telling me, but it's still suspicious to me. I do appreciate your mentality. I too do not like throwing my vote away, and I especially hate spread votes. I guess it's just that your reasoning behind some of them feel like you don't really agree just are voting along with the majority. I'm not sure I really like this accusation either :/ because I know how frustrating it can be to not be accused of being original just because everyone else posted all the good ideas by the time you got to thread.
ALL IN ALL, you are just on my watch list for now. I like your response to me, but not enough to remove you entirely. :)
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That looks hard. Sorry I have been afk, it's week a weird week.
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S~V~S wrote:That looks hard. Sorry I have been afk, it's week a weird week.
IT's all good, and the puzzle is all solved.
Made wrote:
LizKeen wrote:I don't understand this puzzle thing AT ALL.
Basically, it's like sudoku combined with a crossword. the goal is to get number that add up to the number either on top or next to it, so for example
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1+ 8 =9
8+1+4+3+5= 21


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Made, you're a lifesaver. And MM, I meant to compliment you on your lovely Keaton mask addition but apparently forgot :( So...I like your Keaton mask, MM! Personally, I like the Bunny Hood and the Stone Mask because I like to run and hide and shoot EVERY FUCKING FLYING THING WITH ARROWS, but Keaton is adorable :blush:

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Agreed, I'm also digging the Keaton Mask. Don't know why I didn't comment on it earlier. Majora's Mask FTW. :noble:
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EBWoP: Belated kudos to you, Made. I've been playing some catchup in free moments at work and I appreciate the insight into wth has been going on.
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fingersplints wrote:
Dom wrote:Splints, you're right.
:hugs: yay for being right :yay:

I don't have a read on you either way, but your play style this game made sense to me. :srsnod:
i'm glad.
i'm really mafia'd out. :)

Made wrote:Splints, MR, Dom, Submit answers ._.


Also, As i'm not quite sure what everyone's going on about, I think that figuring out who wanted to push a Boog lynch, and who backed it would be the best place to start figuring out. I also think that holding this discussion off till tomorrow is in our best interest. Especially considering the death of MP last night.
thank you for figuring what the hell is going on. i'm really not in a place to spend that much tim eon something so thank!!!
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Dom wrote: i'm glad.
i'm really mafia'd out. :)
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Dom wrote: i'm glad.
i'm really mafia'd out. :)
You just need to stop getting the SK role.
I've gotten it quite a bit in my mafia career.
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That is not to say I don't love other types of roles.

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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Well I had the graph set out even before Made posted it. I admit I had not filled in the numbers yet though. But it seems this is a gift to Hyrule to post it.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Really well done Made! I don't think I've ever seen a kakuro before. Well done on cracking this. While it does help the Hyrule, overall this benefits us way more as long as civs get in unique versions.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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zeek wrote:Really well done Made! I don't think I've ever seen a kakuro before. Well done on cracking this. While it does help the Hyrule, overall this benefits us way more as long as civs get in unique versions.
That's a very big if.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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It is, but I found it quite easy to do once Made showed us how its done. I can't imagine many people will have exactly the same solutions.
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fingersplints wrote:
Russtifinko wrote:As for sable, don't misinterpret this as a defense of her (she's also near the top of my list for tomorrow), but it's just not mathematically possible that she's "narrowly missed being lynched several times now" but not yesterday. There have only been 2 other lynches. Saying people have been saving her using these bros (incorrect) generalizations without giving any numbers or vote times is the kind of dangerous language that gets people lynched when well-meaning divs aren't paying enough attention to fact check on their own, so if you'e a civ it'd be great for us all if you wouldn't do that.
People can check the votes themselves. There is a thread specifically for that. I don't see why I need to copy and paste things into this thread for my points to be valid. The first two lynches felt like pushes to save sabie to me. You are welcome to feel otherwise, but since I don't feel great about you your continued defense of her doesn't help her at all in my eyes. :)
Lol. I don't know what I can do here.

And I didn't mean you should copy and paste the vote thread. But I'm saying give a number of votes or tell us something about the timing so that the many people who I guarantee won't check it themselves aren't misled.
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For example:

You already said you don't think sable was saved on D3, so I'll ignore that.

D1: Made took 2 votes, then sable took 2. Then Made took 2 more, followed by 1 for sable, and 2 more for Made. So it's possible a save was on, though the goodies definitely needed some civ help to get that done, so I personally think it's a bit of a stretch. Elo's vote to break an early tie and Bass's to put Made in the lead by two stand out as possibles.

D2: sable took 2 votes. Both llama and Hedgie had more, and sable's first was after Hedgeowl had 2 already. Almost definitely not a save of sable.

So your post saying you have this feeling that sable had been saved multiple times before D3 even started is just mathematically wrong. Can you see how supporting this with numbers might be a little less likely to overstate the case than, "OMG guys my gut feels like everyone is saving sable all the time! Don't post anything that contradicts me in the slightest or try to reason this out because that means you're defending her, even if you actually say you also suspect her but for different reasons than me?"
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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You are not accounting for all the vote changing that went on. ;)
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Not sure how I could be narrowly missing lynches when I've only received 2 votes, 3 votes, and 0 votes. I don't think anyone is looking out for me. People are suspecting me because I don't have much time to post and my posts come off as "disingenuous". I had a crazy busy weekend and had to post fast from my phone or risk missing posts and lynches. I didn't vote for Hedge or Boogs who were both civs and I only voted Made because he went from "trusting" me to voting for me way too quickly.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Snow Dog wrote:
zeek wrote:Really well done Made! I don't think I've ever seen a kakuro before. Well done on cracking this. While it does help the Hyrule, overall this benefits us way more as long as civs get in unique versions.
That's a very big if.
Not really.
There are a lot of unique solutions to this puzzle, from what I can tell.

And even if it were unlikely that civs didn't all turn in unique versions, it would be equally unlikely that mafia didn't submit unique entries.


A way to get around this tho....
EVERYONE SHARE THE KAKURO THEY SUBMITTED INTO THE THREAD!

This way if there are duplicate, we can fix them

Also, Sabie, turn in a kakuro :srsnod:
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Also, sometimes people mess up my name. It's Sabie not Sable. Issok easy mistake to make. Also, I don't know how to format that puzzle in order to put it into a pm and submit it. I don't know what program I'm supposed to use or did I miss something?
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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sabie12 wrote:Also, sometimes people mess up my name. It's Sabie not Sable. Issok easy mistake to make. Also, I don't know how to format that puzzle in order to put it into a pm and submit it. I don't know what program I'm supposed to use or did I miss something?

I just sent the coordinates with my answers
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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Here's mine.
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Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much. Elections tomorrow. Super busy. I finally got around to submitting mine (thanks to MAde. I was stumped.) Here it is.
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Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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thellama73 wrote:Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much. Elections tomorrow. Super busy. I finally got around to submitting mine (thanks to MAde. I was stumped.) Here it is.
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Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much. Elections tomorrow. Super busy. I finally got around to submitting mine (thanks to MAde. I was stumped.) Here it is.
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I don't think 10 is allowed.
10 was one of the clues he gave us, not my own insertion. I just didn't mark them differently because lazy.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [Night 3]

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thellama73 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much. Elections tomorrow. Super busy. I finally got around to submitting mine (thanks to MAde. I was stumped.) Here it is.
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I don't think 10 is allowed.
10 was one of the clues he gave us, not my own insertion. I just didn't mark them differently because lazy.
Of course. I am a fool! :sigh:
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