Hot Fuzz Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Porscha]

Saxon is the police dog in hot fuzz.

but who would make the dog a mafia team flavor. that's kinda insane

think about it

[falcon45ca]

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

[Porscha]

although maf do just get fake flavor to claim so maybe the dog is a good fake flavor

[RondoDimBuckle]

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

[robyn]

WHY DOES SABI HAVE 8 VOTES

[DrWilgy]

Because the wagon is either pure and there are 8 God gamers on board.

Or wolves are cool with it.

[robyn]

8
42%
Voters: anne, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Creature, Seanzie, Schiavetto, Neon

you idiots
honestly this spews sabi clear
once sabi flips green d3 is spent lynching me instead and I also flip green
ergo mafia piles on sabi and pushes the dichotomy

[DrWilgy]

Why do you think Lily?

[DrWilgy]

*fuck Lucy

[DrWilgy]

Also that wasn't supposed to be "fuck Lucy" that was supposed to be:
*Lucy

And "fuck I used the wrong name"

[Porscha]

WHY DOES SABI HAVE 8 VOTES

Ftr I can see either of Cape and Sabi being wolves here. I may have expressed a townread on them earlier but it was prob for weak vibe reasons.

If you can't find me as town than idk what to do. I'm very far off from my mafia Rands.

I'm very wary of you after Alison's game.

I'm fully aware that game is going to get me poed and miselim early in every game for the next six months. I'm Town this game and rather not have to pay for my sins fron a previous game.

I'd be happy about it sabi, you are now a good scum player and will be treated as such
all good scum have to pay for their sins
but it is good

you already know why

[RondoDimBuckle]

WHY DOES SABI HAVE 8 VOTES

Ftr I can see either of Cape and Sabi being wolves here. I may have expressed a townread on them earlier but it was prob for weak vibe reasons.

If you can't find me as town than idk what to do. I'm very far off from my mafia Rands.

I'm very wary of you after Alison's game.

I'm fully aware that game is going to get me poed and miselim early in every game for the next six months. I'm Town this game and rather not have to pay for my sins fron a previous game.

I'd be happy about it sabi, you are now a good scum player and will be treated as such
all good scum have to pay for their sins
but it is good

you already know why

8
42%
Voters: anne, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Creature, Seanzie, Schiavetto, Neon

you idiots
honestly this spews sabi clear
once sabi flips green d3 is spent lynching me instead and I also flip green
ergo mafia piles on sabi and pushes the dichotomy

[pyxxy]

ood evening, wrote this up during night, posting this without catching up but seeing that I didn't die, will have time to read tomorrow

sabi
viewtopic.php?p=960129#p960129
- the need for Sabi to keep proactively pushing that they're being scumread for prior wolf success is reasonable
- but at what point does it just turn into legitimizing pushing back any scumread of themself? which would be a smart strategy/pattern to establish as normal on D1
- nothing personal, kid

creature
viewtopic.php?p=960123#p960123
- yes you literally did (viewtopic.php?p=959437#p959437)
- this is quite the progression on Cape (viewtopic.php?p=959596#p959596)
- if I knew how to do VCA on this site then I could figure out when you made this shift and if it helped cover lucy

nanook
- this post confuses me (viewtopic.php?p=960275#p960275)
- you seem very concerned about trying to townclear yourself when there's no pressure on you and you've posted all of 9 times before this, and trying to solve is an actualy way to get towncleared, not hocus pocus preemptive VCA before we even get a flip
- press x to doubt (viewtopic.php?p=960193#p960193)
- maybe you just really love VCA and had somehow already thought about all the possibilities here, but like, idk, if that's the case would you mind sharing more with the class?

- Question for the rest of the game: Is this normal Nanook behavior?

also have my eye on mac falcon lucy

perhaps my porscha feelings were just rubbing off from her interaction with lucy but I'm late slow and inoriginal with this opinion h/t I think to DrWigly on this one

scotty respond to anne she's asked repeatedly and nicely and I think you two have great teamwork potential in this game

[ed note: rip scotty]

Re: Nook, this is completely and painfully normal. Nook is a good player though and I think will show town if it's there. I've begun to notice a trend of me finding him given enough time.

Not sure your takeaways re Sabi and Creature. What are you saying regarding these slots?

You think to me on this one? I don't understand the statement.

ang my post really had the wheels come off as it rolled along huh, sorry about that, I pre-re-read along with pre-writing next time

ty for nook nowledge


re: sabi, before all this claim stuff, the point that I was trying to make was that:
- in the game on webdip that just finished, town!sabi seemed very preoccupied with their recent successful (arguably impressive? not for me to decide) scum!sabi game
- because they were afraid that they would be scumread more often and with less resistance than previously
- (again arguably a compliment)
- but the way that sabi presented this idea in the webdip game felt very different from how it's being displayed here
- on webdip (which you can read in this weird bot)https://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=76 it didn't seem to be such a prominent concern
- perhaps because the syndicate is where the wolf game happened, so more of y'all are on alert for it

but what I didn't like was the way sabi was using the argument, paraphrased:
"I am being _over_ scumread because of my recent success as scum"
or at least that's the implication that I got. Not just that it was unreasonable to scumread them, but that the core reasonings for people's scumreads were from being too sensitive to sabi's possibly scummy vibes

and then it seemed like this overreach of an argument was being applied to any negative attention, which was weird and not to my liking

sure hope I'm making sense here

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I'll put the creature posts into real quotes, that was lazy of me

lmao Sabi is so town

but prob for a very bad reason

At leastone of the following players are wolf. There’s been too much action with the current spread.
Anne
Jack
Cape
Lucy
Mac
Neon
Sabi

Anne yes
Maybe Jack (posted a lot but didn't seem impressive)
Cape no
Lucy yes
Mac is kinda fine (depends on how anne will flip)
Neon idk maybe would listen to Mac first
Sabi no I guess

Ftr I can see either of Cape and Sabi being wolves here. I may have expressed a townread on them earlier but it was prob for weak vibe reasons.

creature openly acknowledges that he(?)'s had a change of heart on cape / sabi, but doesn't really elaborate on the reasoning for the initial town reads nor why the change

seems like creature's m.o. to just say short blurbs with no reasoning so perhaps this is normal but it struck me as odd. updates on reads are normal and expected, giving no context is certainly not helpful to the rest of town

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"h/t I think" was because I wasn't scrolling the thread and didn't know for sure who to credit, but I was right, it was DrWigly who first brought up the interaction as a topic

[falcon45ca]

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

Do tell

[pyxxy]

Creature still feels off. His take on Anne I think is bad, idk what he means by me disappointing him, Falcon take is bad, Jack take is bad, Lily take is very noncommittal, and I can go on. It just feels like Creature is constantly in a position where they are ok with yeeting anyone.

his. Bold + color is mine, as it's the part that I feel most strongly about.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

alcon, how close to the deadline were you around during EOD D1?

You posted with 30 minutes to go. Did you stick around for a response about the mac case?

What's the case against Mac?



Went thru Lucy's ISO, and I'd vote that slot in a hot minute

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

alcon, how close to the deadline were you around during EOD D1?

You posted with 30 minutes to go. Did you stick around for a response about the mac case?

What's the case against Mac?



Went thru Lucy's ISO, and I'd vote that slot in a hot minute

Everything you've brought up is NAI for me

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

Hehehehehehe



So what's your position on my slot?

[pyxxy]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

alcon, how close to the deadline were you around during EOD D1?

You posted with 30 minutes to go. Did you stick around for a response about the mac case?

What's the case against Mac?



Went thru Lucy's ISO, and I'd vote that slot in a hot minute

Everything you've brought up is NAI for me

kay. Can I still get an answer? Did you stick around for a response about the mac case and to watch EOD go through?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

Hehehehehehe



So what's your position on my slot?

[robyn]

I claimed vt
nobody gave me a strong TR
Sabi claimed PR
I was d1 CW
You guys should always Lynch me today then Lynch whoever pushed one in me/Sabi

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

I voted for Cape, yes.



Got something to add beyond a meme accusation?

I'd like a list of all players who are TR me

Hehehehehehe



So what's your position on my slot?

Fuckin pikey gibberish nonsense

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[robyn]

there's one wolf in anne/Mac 100%, no pelt and neither of them is dead compared to scotty
creature is sus as fuck
there's 2-3 scum on that wagon

[robyn]

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

almost certainly a wolf imo, if not we policy Mac and he's 100% a wolf
Mac is on the wagon with his top SR's that's on claimed town PR
I think barely anyone provided good explanation for this, and honestly it's a losing wagon because when it misses (sabi is spewed town), I am turbo'ed d3 by policy instead of today because of the bullshit dichotomy between me and sabi
aka it's a Lynch that scum fucking loves

[robyn]

maybe 2/2 in Mac/anne
sabi is most certainly town

[robyn]

Mac never lynches sabi here, Mac instantly let's Sabi prove her NA and then goes to somewhere else and doesn't place a vote and sit
Jack is still cleared, and Mac is even more scummy for dissuading Jack off me

[robyn]

Creature might be town, one in him/nook/jack for certain

[obscurity]

Lucy, what do you make of the fact that my push on you took off pretty quickly with a wagon and never let up but the push on Lily got ignored by most people?

[anne]

Lucy, I’m going to make this as easy as possible for you to understand.

1. Sabi’s claim is never provable. It just isn’t. It’s an investigative role that only gives her reports, there is nothing anything self-resolving about that claim.

2. Sabi originally claimed tracker. We already know there is a town tracker because one of the roles revealed to us at the start of the game was a mason tracker. It is unlikely there are two trackers.

3. When confronted by this fact, Sabi took back her claim and claimed something else. She claimed motion detector instead.

4. She said the name of her role was “night watch” there are no flavored roles in the game. Cape’s role was just Commuter and Vanilla Towns have been Vanilla Towns. The only flavor are character names.

5. When faced with this information Sabi stopped posting.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[obscurity]

mac please quote the posts where i called cape scum or pushed cape at all

sabi did

you just sat back with the most clout and presence day 1 and let him get wagoned lol

except i joined the cw against him, game seems low quality so didnt feel like expending more effort than that when people are townlocking players like neon who is probably an obvious wolf

well imo there's 1 to 2 wolves between you and sabi and you played day 1 in lockstep so you're either thr masons, both mafia or you're pocketed by sabi

the only reason i would be pocketed by sabi is because theyre the only person not scumreading me for bs reasons rofl

well if you are town that should worry you cuz if everyone thinks ur mafia except sabi they probably just have tmi

Does obscurity also have tmi because tr anne?

Does scotty also have tmi because he tr anne?

Any other bullshit you need to peddle?

You're flailing like you did when achro pushed you last game

Small point but I'm unflipped. Sounds like part of an accusation of someone who knows I'm town.

I'm just going back to verify that the claim thing is off, but yeah I think the "Anne didn't go anywhere" was a clear tracker claim that was then backtracked on.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Lucy, I’m going to make this as easy as possible for you to understand.

1. Sabi’s claim is never provable. It just isn’t. It’s an investigative role that only gives her reports, there is nothing anything self-resolving about that claim.

2. Sabi originally claimed tracker. We already know there is a town tracker because one of the roles revealed to us at the start of the game was a mason tracker. It is unlikely there are two trackers.

3. When confronted by this fact, Sabi took back her claim and claimed something else. She claimed motion detector instead.

4. She said the name of her role was “night watch” there are no flavored roles in the game. Cape’s role was just Commuter and Vanilla Towns have been Vanilla Towns. The only flavor are character names.

5. When faced with this information Sabi stopped posting.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

almost certainly a wolf imo, if not we policy Mac and he's 100% a wolf
Mac is on the wagon with his top SR's that's on claimed town PR
I think barely anyone provided good explanation for this, and honestly it's a losing wagon because when it misses (sabi is spewed town), I am turbo'ed d3 by policy instead of today because of the bullshit dichotomy between me and sabi
aka it's a Lynch that scum fucking loves

[obscurity]

didn't sabi claim mason or am i tripping? its either that or she scumslipped maybe

I claim neither.

I crumbled what my role is already. I'm tracker. I tracked anne N1. My report came out with no results.

Explicitly claimed tracker too.


Yeah, probably just outed?

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

almost certainly a wolf imo, if not we policy Mac and he's 100% a wolf
Mac is on the wagon with his top SR's that's on claimed town PR
I think barely anyone provided good explanation for this, and honestly it's a losing wagon because when it misses (sabi is spewed town), I am turbo'ed d3 by policy instead of today because of the bullshit dichotomy between me and sabi
aka it's a Lynch that scum fucking loves

Lucy, I’m going to make this as easy as possible for you to understand.

1. Sabi’s claim is never provable. It just isn’t. It’s an investigative role that only gives her reports, there is nothing anything self-resolving about that claim.

2. Sabi originally claimed tracker. We already know there is a town tracker because one of the roles revealed to us at the start of the game was a mason tracker. It is unlikely there are two trackers.

3. When confronted by this fact, Sabi took back her claim and claimed something else. She claimed motion detector instead.

4. She said the name of her role was “night watch” there are no flavored roles in the game. Cape’s role was just Commuter and Vanilla Towns have been Vanilla Towns. The only flavor are character names.

5. When faced with this information Sabi stopped posting.

[obscurity]

I assume there's no majority in this game?

[obscurity]

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

She walked it back 3 times, made no sense for her to claim, being weird around their claim. Take your pick.

i suppose it was a bit weird but if no one CCs shouldn't we just assume it's true?

Soft defending Sabi btw.

[obscurity]

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

x2

[obscurity]

I swear Lily is the most obvious wolf in the world or I'm insane reading this ISO plz.

[robyn]

Lucy, I’m going to make this as easy as possible for you to understand.

1. Sabi’s claim is never provable. It just isn’t. It’s an investigative role that only gives her reports, there is nothing anything self-resolving about that claim.

2. Sabi originally claimed tracker. We already know there is a town tracker because one of the roles revealed to us at the start of the game was a mason tracker. It is unlikely there are two trackers.

3. When confronted by this fact, Sabi took back her claim and claimed something else. She claimed motion detector instead.

4. She said the name of her role was “night watch” there are no flavored roles in the game. Cape’s role was just Commuter and Vanilla Towns have been Vanilla Towns. The only flavor are character names.

5. When faced with this information Sabi stopped posting.

will you believe i was incredibly wasted for the above messages?
and that’s what i get for skimming the thread tbh

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

She walked it back 3 times, made no sense for her to claim, being weird around their claim. Take your pick.

i suppose it was a bit weird but if no one CCs shouldn't we just assume it's true?

Soft defending Sabi btw.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

[VOTE: Anne] aubergine

almost certainly a wolf imo, if not we policy Mac and he's 100% a wolf
Mac is on the wagon with his top SR's that's on claimed town PR
I think barely anyone provided good explanation for this, and honestly it's a losing wagon because when it misses (sabi is spewed town), I am turbo'ed d3 by policy instead of today because of the bullshit dichotomy between me and sabi
aka it's a Lynch that scum fucking loves

Lucy, I’m going to make this as easy as possible for you to understand.

1. Sabi’s claim is never provable. It just isn’t. It’s an investigative role that only gives her reports, there is nothing anything self-resolving about that claim.

2. Sabi originally claimed tracker. We already know there is a town tracker because one of the roles revealed to us at the start of the game was a mason tracker. It is unlikely there are two trackers.

3. When confronted by this fact, Sabi took back her claim and claimed something else. She claimed motion detector instead.

4. She said the name of her role was “night watch” there are no flavored roles in the game. Cape’s role was just Commuter and Vanilla Towns have been Vanilla Towns. The only flavor are character names.

5. When faced with this information Sabi stopped posting.

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

x2

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[obscurity]

i need to sort this game though unsure if i have time to do so tonight

apologies for my inactivity day 1

atm i'd say anne / obscurity / lucy town

i've liked schiavetto too

i like ur posts a lot wilgz.

gonna [VOTE: lucy] aubergine cuz sabi PR claimed.

[obscurity]

Spoiler alert: That wasn't the only time Lily called Lucy town, either. And the vote made no sense, it was clearly an attempt to divert focus off of Sabi until Anne called out the PR stuff being BS.

[robyn]

i won’t return to thread unless tagged, i am embarrassed

[RondoDimBuckle]

Lucy, I’m going to make this as easy as possible for you to understand.

1. Sabi’s claim is never provable. It just isn’t. It’s an investigative role that only gives her reports, there is nothing anything self-resolving about that claim.

2. Sabi originally claimed tracker. We already know there is a town tracker because one of the roles revealed to us at the start of the game was a mason tracker. It is unlikely there are two trackers.

3. When confronted by this fact, Sabi took back her claim and claimed something else. She claimed motion detector instead.

4. She said the name of her role was “night watch” there are no flavored roles in the game. Cape’s role was just Commuter and Vanilla Towns have been Vanilla Towns. The only flavor are character names.

5. When faced with this information Sabi stopped posting.

Spoiler alert: That wasn't the only time Lily called Lucy town, either. And the vote made no sense, it was clearly an attempt to divert focus off of Sabi until Anne called out the PR stuff being BS.

i need to sort this game though unsure if i have time to do so tonight

apologies for my inactivity day 1

atm i'd say anne / obscurity / lucy town

i've liked schiavetto too

i like ur posts a lot wilgz.

gonna [VOTE: lucy] aubergine cuz sabi PR claimed.

[RondoDimBuckle]

i won’t return to thread unless tagged, i am embarrassed