obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:01 am
@Lilypetal can you talk to me about your read on lucy and why you started thinking she was mafia later day 2
fairly sure i was just sheeping neon's policy yeet i thought lucy was fine
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:12 am
Seanzie is weird because he's just saying "I'm town dude" in response to suspicions on him but then he's also suspicious of Jack for reading him as town, and Mac did leave a suspicion there.
The difference is, I believe your suspicion of me is coming from a genuine place, whereas I do not believe Jack's townread is.
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:12 am
Seanzie is weird because he's just saying "I'm town dude" in response to suspicions on him but then he's also suspicious of Jack for reading him as town, and Mac did leave a suspicion there.
The difference is, I believe your suspicion of me is coming from a genuine place, whereas I do not believe Jack's townread is.
You dare call me insincere? Who do you think you are?
Lucy ISO:
-Asks some general questions about people's thoughts
-Says scum Lucy wouldn't be caught
-Calls my reads bad/mindless when I say Scotty/Anne/Cape/Creature all obvious villagers
-Mentions they don't need to take me seriously
-More general questions to people about play
-Asks creature how confident he is that she's scum
Note: This feels like a weird thing to ask??
-Asks some more questions that feel kind of meaningless in terms of scumhunting
-100% one scum in Anne/Sabi
-Weakish read on Jack
-Says they should probably die as the D1 CW
-Wilgy is top SR
-Yells about Sabi wagon, calls it consisting of wolves
-More bold/loud defense of Sabi, push onto Mac/Anne
-Says she was drunk
hmmm.. yeah idk, not as towny as I thought. I think I got thrown by the emotional appeal at me. Seems to indulge in drunken play that comes across as powerwolfy, then regrets it later... nothing unpaired from Sabi's side. will vote here for now.
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:12 am
Seanzie is weird because he's just saying "I'm town dude" in response to suspicions on him but then he's also suspicious of Jack for reading him as town, and Mac did leave a suspicion there.
Yep that's Seanzie
Bubbly Magical Girl who loves Caitlin more than anything in the world!
You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.
High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
2.5 hours til EoD and I RaNdOmLy put mac into the lead with 3 votes.
What are the top 3 players you would be willing to vote for today, sabi?
Mac, Rondo, lucy and maybe cape.
Cape has felt towny lately ish so I'm swinging back and forth
I could see Sabi mentioning a partner here.
@anne why do you think Lucy clear?
Sabi voted with me and scotty and someone else (I forget who) to flashwagon Lucy at EOD1 and Lucy almost died as a result
Yeah but isn't the alternative Sabi just gets yeeted?
If Sabi and Lucy are teamed, it doesn't change if a wolf gets yeeted but it does make the two of them look unpaired. As far as busses go, it's a fine move.
2.5 hours til EoD and I RaNdOmLy put mac into the lead with 3 votes.
What are the top 3 players you would be willing to vote for today, sabi?
Mac, Rondo, lucy and maybe cape.
Cape has felt towny lately ish so I'm swinging back and forth
I could see Sabi mentioning a partner here.
@anne why do you think Lucy clear?
Sabi voted with me and scotty and someone else (I forget who) to flashwagon Lucy at EOD1 and Lucy almost died as a result
Yeah but isn't the alternative Sabi just gets yeeted?
If Sabi and Lucy are teamed, it doesn't change if a wolf gets yeeted but it does make the two of them look unpaired. As far as busses go, it's a fine move.
2.5 hours til EoD and I RaNdOmLy put mac into the lead with 3 votes.
What are the top 3 players you would be willing to vote for today, sabi?
Mac, Rondo, lucy and maybe cape.
Cape has felt towny lately ish so I'm swinging back and forth
I could see Sabi mentioning a partner here.
@anne why do you think Lucy clear?
Sabi voted with me and scotty and someone else (I forget who) to flashwagon Lucy at EOD1 and Lucy almost died as a result
Yeah but isn't the alternative Sabi just gets yeeted?
If Sabi and Lucy are teamed, it doesn't change if a wolf gets yeeted but it does make the two of them look unpaired. As far as busses go, it's a fine move.
No? It was Cape vs Lucy
Oh, this was D1? Huh. I guess I need to reread that.
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:03 pm
Are you sure Sabi was on it? I know Lucy got flashwagoned because I tried to switch my vote and it was locked. Not having the vote count is annoying.
meh, I see it. I guess it depends if Sabi really expected Lucy to die, which I dunno. I still wouldn't outrule a bus from some of their interactions. I think 1 in Lucy/Lily, anyway.
She voted Lucy 1 minute before votes locked, putting her at 3-6 with Cape I believe (4-6 max) - whatever it was I saw that even if my vote to Lucy had switched correctly, Lucy wouldn't have had enough votes to die
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:13 pm
She voted Lucy 1 minute before votes locked, putting her at 3-6 with Cape I believe (4-6 max) - whatever it was I saw that even if my vote to Lucy had switched correctly, Lucy wouldn't have had enough votes to die
Incorrect, it was 4-5. Nanook was the last vote that day.
hmm okay. I think I just plainly feel uncomfortable clearing someone for that reason, especially when Sabi had expressed a townread on Cape so was sort of motivated/compelled to bus there if she had to.
it is plausible Lucy is town but I'm going to value Lucy posting over that.
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:13 pm
She voted Lucy 1 minute before votes locked, putting her at 3-6 with Cape I believe (4-6 max) - whatever it was I saw that even if my vote to Lucy had switched correctly, Lucy wouldn't have had enough votes to die
Incorrect, it was 4-5. Nanook was the last vote that day.
f we believe nooky boy's "technically after the D1 poll closed and thus when no one should have been posting" post
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:02 pm
It was 5/5 when I moved to cape, if he flips red
If lucy flips red later the vc was 6/4 at eod and my move didn't matter so im still town
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:59 am
@anne why did you tr cape and seanzie for not giving AI content?
@Cape90 same question but in regards to Falcon?
@obscurity why do you think what I said wasn't fake able?
@Scotty you have a lot of thoughts on people's openings. Rank em
@Neon why did Anne vote you?
@DrWilgy why did you choose cape to kingmaker and why are we kingmaking a closed set up
None of these questions are productive because they make assumptions. You're assuming that Seanzie and Cape90 haven't towntold, which I disagree with. Seanzie had a pretty loud opening, immediately declaring himself as town and asserting that he knew who the wolves were. This isn't super townie, but it is lightly townie to be so brazen. Cape90 came out right away with a clear townread on falcon and was somewhat skeptical of people already calling him townie, to me those things are lightly townie because it shows a small level of self-absorption and it's stating a read clearly so early on in the game without any "frills".
I mean they're definitely not locktown level or anywhere near, but those were the openings that seemed the best to me. Similarly, why would Neon know why I scumread them when I didn't really provide an explanation beyond quoting the post I thought was scummy?
I do have to disagree on the whole self proclaiming the self as town in their first post when plenty of wolfs have abused that strat to get townie points during rvs. So from my pov that's a NAI statement and I don't understand how you can think that's towny. Also the fact Seanzie never really vocalized said wolf read is eyebrow raising because like if it's so obvious why not talk about it. He has popped in the thread enough to not say it.
Good look for Sean here.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
obscurity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:02 pm
Also Anne was shading Scotty EOD so idk why she would then kill him.
Sort of this Schia's opening was towny too as it seemed to lack TMI on Scotty.
there are 4 mafia making decisions
Scotty scumread Anne and me
Sabi spewed Scotty town
Scotty was blatantly obv town. Please stop conf biasing me.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 10:40 pm
@anne @Sabiplz
lily
seanzie
Jack
can you please give me a reasonably detailed appraisal of these slots plz
Lily: hm I still have her null. She still pretty disengaged with the game so it's hard to grasp her alignment. She is struggling to give reads which is similar to her wolf Rands. But idk I need more.
Seanzie: he's not death tunneling anyone which is giving me sus. Every game I played he has death tunneled so this feels like the departure from the norm. Can't tell if this is AI because why wouldn't Sean keep tunneling if he was scum?
Jack: just exists. Nothing AI. Lackluster shell of a slot.
Sean locktown
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
Can you explain how that clears both Sean and Lucy? Is your assumption that mafia is never going to shade their partner because.. my last experience was very different from that.
I agree that the Rondo interaction was very unpaired.
Actually I do kinda agree that the first one in orange is pretty good for Seanzie. The second one you lock towned him for I don't see at all though, she essentially says Seanzie is playing different than usual but "idk lol"
anne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:34 pm
so lucy and pyxxy are obvious town now, cool
anne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:35 pm
creature probably town from cursory inspection
anne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:36 pm
obscurity probably tmi'd town
lol this iso is a gold mine
Can you talk to me about obscurity, creature, and pyxxy. I didn't immediately see those.
Obscurity I recall was pushing really hard for a Lily push in spite of the Sabi wagon being lead. I do still, however, need to look at their iso re Lily per their request.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:36 pm
Can you explain how that clears both Sean and Lucy? Is your assumption that mafia is never going to shade their partner because.. my last experience was very different from that.
I agree that the Rondo interaction was very unpaired.
Lucy is a momentum thing.
Mac sunk his fangs in and Lucy immediately followed suit. A teammate doesn't ever do that.
The quote was mostly just validating a read that already existed.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?
I knew Sabi was dying and was encouraging it. Just boring to talk about someone who was also near mech confirmed, thus I was talking about my Lily read despite knowing Lily would not die.
anne wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:25 pm
mac please quote the posts where i called cape scum or pushed cape at all
sabi did
you just sat back with the most clout and presence day 1 and let him get wagoned lol
except i joined the cw against him, game seems low quality so didnt feel like expending more effort than that when people are townlocking players like neon who is probably an obvious wolf
well imo there's 1 to 2 wolves between you and sabi and you played day 1 in lockstep so you're either thr masons, both mafia or you're pocketed by sabi
the only reason i would be pocketed by sabi is because theyre the only person not scumreading me for bs reasons rofl
well if you are town that should worry you cuz if everyone thinks ur mafia except sabi they probably just have tmi
Does obscurity also have tmi because tr anne?
Does scotty also have tmi because he tr anne?
Any other bullshit you need to peddle?
You're flailing like you did when achro pushed you last game
Also not sure if this is what Anne is referring to, but this to me FMPOV struck me as TMI/sus while Sabi was still alive, because Sabi was acting like they knew my alignment and were throwing it at Mac like "clearly Obscurity and Scotty don't have TMI, but I do?"
obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:38 pm
Actually I do kinda agree that the first one in orange is pretty good for Seanzie. The second one you lock towned him for I don't see at all though, she essentially says Seanzie is playing different than usual but "idk lol"
Re Sean, it's a progressive tell.
Sabi gave a negation of a town read into a scum read that's super hedge to avoid being caught wrong.
Unless Sabi had intended to bus teammate Sean from the beginning of the game, the progression doesn't go like this for a teammate.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:56 pm
@DrWilgy don't post any more k
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Wilgy's vote is an enigma of science. Philosophers are known to throw their tomes across the auditorium in a fit of frustration after failing to solve its mystery.
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:50 pm
WTF was up with Wilgy's entire deal?