Hot Fuzz Mafia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If jack flips mafia im still gonna take credit as if I never wavered

[Porscha]

Whatever if I am wrong I'll let DrWilgy, obscurity and anne lead tomorrow.

It would be cool if Jack left a legacy too if he's town.

lol, you do realize those 3 are my solve

whats the obscurity tinfoil here exactly

[Creature]

I see lucy, Porscha and Schiavetto sitting in the online list. Was I wrong about Jack?

your feet must be so cold

I feel like I am the main responsible for the Jack lynch and if I am wrong that's going to be largely my fault. This is why I'm pretty tense.

want a massage or someone to tell you that it'll be okay or some benzo's
any way you slice it actions have consequences, what you've spent 20 years doing is gaining the tools to make decent decisions

Yeah if I am wrong I'll pretty much have to get over it.

[Creature]

Whatever if I am wrong I'll let DrWilgy, obscurity and anne lead tomorrow.

It would be cool if Jack left a legacy too if he's town.

lol, you do realize those 3 are my solve

lmao then they all decided to TMI Jack? I nearly made a "the floor is jack wolf" meme with them.

[robyn]

Whatever if I am wrong I'll let DrWilgy, obscurity and anne lead tomorrow.

It would be cool if Jack left a legacy too if he's town.

lol, you do realize those 3 are my solve

whats the obscurity tinfoil here exactly

he's wolf siding, I see him as the twice shrunk of this game

[robyn]

Whatever if I am wrong I'll let DrWilgy, obscurity and anne lead tomorrow.

It would be cool if Jack left a legacy too if he's town.

lol, you do realize those 3 are my solve

lmao then they all decided to TMI Jack? I nearly made a "the floor is jack wolf" meme with them.

wigly is who I'm pushing tomorrow

[Creature]

I dunno. You all will have to reconsider a lot of stuff tomorrow. Even if Jack is wolf today felt pretty meh.

[Porscha]

Whatever if I am wrong I'll let DrWilgy, obscurity and anne lead tomorrow.

It would be cool if Jack left a legacy too if he's town.

lol, you do realize those 3 are my solve

whats the obscurity tinfoil here exactly

he's wolf siding, I see him as the twice shrunk of this game

ok alright slow down on that one lmfao

[Sloonei]

Day 4 Result

Michael Armstrong, affectionately known as Lurch by his mum and sister, was found bludgeoned to death this afternoon. It is believed that he fell and struck his head on a potted Japanese peace lily and died from the resulting wounds.



Jackofhearts2005 has been eliminated. He was Lurch, 2-shot Mafia Strongman.

It is Night 4. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.

[Sloonei]

Night 4

Late last night, a large explosion shook Sandford village, as the home of George Merchant was blown to bits. A gas leak stemming from Mr. Merchant's kitchen, he had been cooking up some midnight beans, is believed to have been the culprit. While the home was not in keeping with the village's rustic aesthetic, Mr. Merchant will be dearly missed.



lucy has been killed. She was George Merchant, Vanilla Town.

It is Day 5. You have 48 hours to eliminate somebody.

[obscurity]

seanzie/falcon/NANOOK/wilgy/creature are all town

let's talk about neon

[Porscha]

Unsurprised

Sean locktown wilgy probs has to die

[obscurity]

did not expect that kill so i'm polishing some things but i took a lot of notes, i think this game is close to solved?? i did have her as strong town after flips but didn't expect that

[Porscha]

Hold up go read all of wilgy posts 2 pages before eod and tell me that is town

[obscurity]

Night 4 Notes:

First of all, Creature and Mac GOAT. And whoever other townies were pushing there. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was such bus energy, simply because I thought Jack seemed towny + I townread Wilgy (main other person sticking up for him?) but I was not very surprised by the flip because something about thread momentum felt like that may be a hit.

I was around EOD mostly because I planned to vote Jack if there was ever a risk of Creature going over him, but it stayed distinct enough difference.

Second of all, I think it’s pretty clear from the way Jack interacted with me that he was largely trying to pocket me and coming at me to try to sway my vote, but anyway.

What I know:

2 mafia in [Anne, Creature, Wilgy, Falcon, Lucy, NANOOK, Neon, Porscha, Pyxxy, Ruri, Schiavetto, Seanzie]

Creature spewed hard town (probably dead). Wilgy still very town.
I townread Lucy’s EOD.
POE: Anne/Falcon/NANOOK/Neon/Porscha/Pyxxy/Ruri/Schiavetto/Seanzie
Ruri; Probably doctor?
NANOOK; Would *lean* unpaired with Jack
Porscha/Pyxxy/Schia were all town leans.
If this laziness is correct, would mean 2 in Anne/Falcon/Neon/Seanzie
If Anne is town and right on Seanzie/Jack *difference* check that’d make the last 2 exactly Falcon/Neon
*is this possible*?
~
Note: Could see Falcon/Seanzie/NANOOK TMI reads from Jack.

*Neon made a weak-sauce townread on Jack early on

Can sorta see Anne townread stuff as white knight on a villager?

Could also maybe see w!Anne take a stronger stance against Jack, but eh.

Maybe falcon is okay? P#1065

~~~

What if Creature, Wilgy, Anne, Seanzie, Falcon, and NANOOK are all okay?
Leaves Lucy, Porscha, Schiavetta, Pyxxy, Neon, Ruri
Think Schia/Jack seemed unpaired.

Neon would make sense as mafia.

Lucy seems a bit spewed from Jack as well. Plus the way Jack is pushing Sabi+Lucy, I highly doubt it’s 2 partners.

Creature cleared.
Lucy cleared.

Wilgy looks good from p#1080. Not sure what it says for Anne.

Porscha, Schiavetta, Pyxxy, Neon, Anne

Anne probably fine.

[Porscha/Schiavetto/Pyxxy/Neon]

First 2 seemed towny but if all my townreads are right that leaves me exactly at [Pyxxy/Neon].. Is that possible?

Jack seems to take a soft stance against Sabi when pressure builds. I think his treatment of Anne contrasts and reads more like white knighting.

I think Jack had a weaksauce read on NANOOK V that is unlikely paired.

Probably wouldn’t clear Ruri as it’s not out of the question Jack helps her with a claim (?) based on the weird-ish treatment around it.

p#1709 looks moderately unpaired with Seanzie.

Could see one of Falcon/Schiavetto/Porcha faired with Jack just for the way the ping came as an afterthought, though I wouldn’t necessary put a lot of stake into that.

Possibility of Neon+Ruri?

Neon does have some “Ruri looks good because of the game” brush off posts.

Neon I think has the least clearing in relation to Jack.

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-Note that Scotty does vote Neon at one point D1.



Neon ISO:
-Gives Jack towncred for an easy/nothingsauce reason

-In retrospect, not hard to see Neon approach to Sabi as a bus? Especially when Neon isn’t one of the people Sabi snaps at in return.

-Lots of fluff

So I don’t feel like “lock Neon scum” from this ISO and I definitely want to consider Mac’s POE after Jack flip too, but also would need a good argument for why Seanzie would be paired with jack, and that was awhile ago

Also Neon sort of had a weird comment to Anne about how they’d kill Mac if they were Anne “to lock in the townread” which could’ve been what Neon did to Mac - plus in general just see the most partner potential between Jack/Neon here.

–

p#111 interaction from Sabi toward Neon feels pingy.

Maybe lack of general partner interactions from Sabi could make sense?

Sabi treatment of Pyxxy/Schia seems a bit unpaired.

[Porscha]

Also lucy said she was gonna go hard in the paint on wilgy today as well so like mmmmmMMMMMM

Microwave noises

Wilgy you tryna die or what

[obscurity]

Hold up go read all of wilgy posts 2 pages before eod and tell me that is town

go read Neon.

[obscurity]

yeah the lucy kill is causing me to pause fwiw i thought it was Creature dying

[Porscha]

Hold up go read all of wilgy posts 2 pages before eod and tell me that is town

go read Neon.

Neon didnt exist yesterday did she?

[Porscha]

Like wilgy HARD defends jack. Are you not taking it to heart cuz you think wilgy wa susut getting snowed by jack or what? It looks really bad imo

[Porscha]

* was just

[obscurity]

Hold up go read all of wilgy posts 2 pages before eod and tell me that is town

go read Neon.

Neon didnt exist yesterday did she?

no but her early stuff is paired and she had super bad associative stuff with both Jack and Sabi.

[Porscha]

yeah the lucy kill is causing me to pause fwiw i thought it was Creature dying

Also why creature lol

[falcon45ca]

Well, my read on Jack turned out awesome...

[obscurity]

Like wilgy HARD defends jack. Are you not taking it to heart cuz you think wilgy wa susut getting snowed by jack or what? It looks really bad imo

i think that's level 1 /shrug

i think wilgy had a read he believed in

i mean, jack did nothing to defend sabi, i don't think mafia's strategy is to hard defend each other

i'll look at him again but i think mafia bussed/distanced/stayed out of it personally (i do think the push on jack was widely town-driven *to start*)

[Porscha]

Who was on jack day 3 with lily wagon

[Porscha]

Also iirc falcon sheeped wilgy yesterday but I kind of assume its cuz falcon has no idea what's going on

[Porscha]

Like wilgy HARD defends jack. Are you not taking it to heart cuz you think wilgy wa susut getting snowed by jack or what? It looks really bad imo

i think that's level 1 /shrug

i think wilgy had a read he believed in

i mean, jack did nothing to defend sabi, i don't think mafia's strategy is to hard defend each other

i'll look at him again but i think mafia bussed/distanced/stayed out of it personally (i do think the push on jack was widely town-driven *to start*)

I think with 3 wolves and 1 maf dead and 1 town dead wilgy could absolutely try to power defend partner jack while other wolf flakes or disassociates. I dont want to act like it doesnt or couldnt happen regardless of how 7 layer cheese dip deep it may or may not be. Also looks rough for wilgy that lucy dies with him as her top suspect. We dont have to ignore signs just because they happen to be obvious

[obscurity]

but lucy thought it was me/anne/wilgy, and jack flipped mafia so

1. their 3/3 was off already after jack flip and had to be revalled

2. i know they were wrong on me

so i'm a bit hesitant to follow that. part of why i thought they'd like, though, was i thought they were town mafia would want alive to keep pushing bad reads.. so them dying is either because

1. they were right on something

2. mafia wanted to kill them to push the stuff they were wrong on

so i am a little suspicious of you if wilgy is town here.

they were also spewed clear but creature seemed like the far more obvious kill to me, that was only a conclusion i came to overnight?

[obscurity]

live* though

(they also could've thought lucy was mason)

but i do need to consider that maybe they don't die if they're all wrong, so will give my dues to wilgy/anne.

nanook/seanzie/falcoon/schia/creature all town.

[anne]

schia is clear from jack spew lolz

[obscurity]

Here are the best points against Neon:

1. They have kind of fallen off. I wanted to discuss stuff with them yesterday and they disappeared.

2. They gave a lazy townread on Jack early game for nothingsauce reasons and barely reviewed it

3. They made a read on Anne that was like, "I could see Anne killing Mac to seal the townread" which feels *easily* like that Neon herself could've done with Mac

4. No clearing interactions with Jack or Sabi. Sabi asking Neon why Anne was voting them early was super weird. This is also important because Jack and Sabi seemed to mostly be talking/appealing to villagers

5. Jack kept them in nulls then never looked at them again.

[obscurity]

schia is clear from jack spew lolz

is that your only thought going into today?

why are you alive?

[obscurity]

Maybe I should just sheep Mac. He's been right about everything so far.

I think Neon/Anne has at least 1. Will consider who I vote and think they should both talk about the other.

[anne]

schia is clear from jack spew lolz

is that your only thought going into today?

why are you alive?

why wouldn't I be alive? no one is really clearing me

[obscurity]

schia is clear from jack spew lolz

is that your only thought going into today?

why are you alive?

why wouldn't I be alive? no one is really clearing me

You've been "clear" since the stuff with Sabi, and multiple people, including mafia Jack, have expressed knowing you're a superstar from reputation. Yet you're still alive.

[anne]

i dont think neon is clear or townie but i hesitate to go against mac's read when he was giving me such a hard time

[anne]

schia is clear from jack spew lolz

is that your only thought going into today?

why are you alive?

why wouldn't I be alive? no one is really clearing me

You've been "clear" since the stuff with Sabi, and multiple people, including mafia Jack, have expressed knowing you're a superstar from reputation. Yet you're still alive.

i dont have a reputation on TS aside from mac and jack and creature, everyone else here ive barely ever played with

[obscurity]

i dont think neon is clear or townie but i hesitate to go against mac's read when he was giving me such a hard time

Can you expand on this? Do you think Mac would have the same read on Neon now as he did day 2? And who do you think is mafia

[obscurity]

schia is clear from jack spew lolz

is that your only thought going into today?

why are you alive?

why wouldn't I be alive? no one is really clearing me

You've been "clear" since the stuff with Sabi, and multiple people, including mafia Jack, have expressed knowing you're a superstar from reputation. Yet you're still alive.

i dont have a reputation on TS aside from mac and jack and creature, everyone else here ive barely ever played with

At least one person who was on the mafia team knows your rep and that's what matters. You don't have to play defense to me but you should at least consider why you're alive. And more than that I want to know more of your viewpoint.

[anne]

i dont think neon is clear or townie but i hesitate to go against mac's read when he was giving me such a hard time

Can you expand on this? Do you think Mac would have the same read on Neon now as he did day 2? And who do you think is mafia

I don't know because I'm not Mac. I don't really have a strong scumread right now, I just have people I think are definitely town like Seanzie, Creature, and Schiavetto. I need to review EOD because Nanook might have had some suspicious stuff going on.

[anne]

And you could be scum too which I'm also considering but idk how likely that is

[obscurity]

We are objectively in a good position right now, there's only been one actual chop on a mafia, both masons are alive, there's a ton of people spewed clear. This game should not be very difficult to figure out.

[obscurity]

Chop on a town*

[anne]

yeah so im fine chilling and doing cruise control for a bit. ill definitely look into things tomorrow

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

[obscurity]

Well you are all smarter than me so I am kind of okay with a Wilgy wagon but I'd like Neon talked about too.

If the level 1 answer is it I don't have to do much anyway.

[Porscha]

but lucy thought it was me/anne/wilgy, and jack flipped mafia so

1. their 3/3 was off already after jack flip and had to be revalled

2. i know they were wrong on me

so i'm a bit hesitant to follow that. part of why i thought they'd like, though, was i thought they were town mafia would want alive to keep pushing bad reads.. so them dying is either because

1. they were right on something

2. mafia wanted to kill them to push the stuff they were wrong on

so i am a little suspicious of you if wilgy is town here.

they were also spewed clear but creature seemed like the far more obvious kill to me, that was only a conclusion i came to overnight?

There is no way you would be suspicious of me even if wilgy ended up town. Wilgy looks awful in this situation. Stop downplaying it and acting like lucy couldnt be right on wanting to push him

[obscurity]

I guess in my mind mafia would try to at least look good and set up for end game considering we have a lot of mischops? It's possible there's like history with these people/site culture/etc that makes this assessment wrong on my end. I want to consider it tomorrow and re-ISO him. Obviously my reads haven't been the best this game and I'm okay deferring to others today for the ultimate decision.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Night 4 Notes:

First of all, Creature and Mac GOAT. And whoever other townies were pushing there. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was such bus energy, simply because I thought Jack seemed towny + I townread Wilgy (main other person sticking up for him?) but I was not very surprised by the flip because something about thread momentum felt like that may be a hit.

I was around EOD mostly because I planned to vote Jack if there was ever a risk of Creature going over him, but it stayed distinct enough difference.

Second of all, I think it’s pretty clear from the way Jack interacted with me that he was largely trying to pocket me and coming at me to try to sway my vote, but anyway.

What I know:

2 mafia in [Anne, Creature, Wilgy, Falcon, Lucy, NANOOK, Neon, Porscha, Pyxxy, Ruri, Schiavetto, Seanzie]

Creature spewed hard town (probably dead). Wilgy still very town.
I townread Lucy’s EOD.
POE: Anne/Falcon/NANOOK/Neon/Porscha/Pyxxy/Ruri/Schiavetto/Seanzie
Ruri; Probably doctor?
NANOOK; Would *lean* unpaired with Jack
Porscha/Pyxxy/Schia were all town leans.
If this laziness is correct, would mean 2 in Anne/Falcon/Neon/Seanzie
If Anne is town and right on Seanzie/Jack *difference* check that’d make the last 2 exactly Falcon/Neon
*is this possible*?
~
Note: Could see Falcon/Seanzie/NANOOK TMI reads from Jack.

*Neon made a weak-sauce townread on Jack early on

Can sorta see Anne townread stuff as white knight on a villager?

Could also maybe see w!Anne take a stronger stance against Jack, but eh.

Maybe falcon is okay? P#1065

~~~

What if Creature, Wilgy, Anne, Seanzie, Falcon, and NANOOK are all okay?
Leaves Lucy, Porscha, Schiavetta, Pyxxy, Neon, Ruri
Think Schia/Jack seemed unpaired.

Neon would make sense as mafia.

Lucy seems a bit spewed from Jack as well. Plus the way Jack is pushing Sabi+Lucy, I highly doubt it’s 2 partners.

Creature cleared.
Lucy cleared.

Wilgy looks good from p#1080. Not sure what it says for Anne.

Porscha, Schiavetta, Pyxxy, Neon, Anne

Anne probably fine.

[Porscha/Schiavetto/Pyxxy/Neon]

First 2 seemed towny but if all my townreads are right that leaves me exactly at [Pyxxy/Neon].. Is that possible?

Jack seems to take a soft stance against Sabi when pressure builds. I think his treatment of Anne contrasts and reads more like white knighting.

I think Jack had a weaksauce read on NANOOK V that is unlikely paired.

Probably wouldn’t clear Ruri as it’s not out of the question Jack helps her with a claim (?) based on the weird-ish treatment around it.

p#1709 looks moderately unpaired with Seanzie.

Could see one of Falcon/Schiavetto/Porcha faired with Jack just for the way the ping came as an afterthought, though I wouldn’t necessary put a lot of stake into that.

Possibility of Neon+Ruri?

Neon does have some “Ruri looks good because of the game” brush off posts.

Neon I think has the least clearing in relation to Jack.

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-Note that Scotty does vote Neon at one point D1.



Neon ISO:
-Gives Jack towncred for an easy/nothingsauce reason

-In retrospect, not hard to see Neon approach to Sabi as a bus? Especially when Neon isn’t one of the people Sabi snaps at in return.

-Lots of fluff

So I don’t feel like “lock Neon scum” from this ISO and I definitely want to consider Mac’s POE after Jack flip too, but also would need a good argument for why Seanzie would be paired with jack, and that was awhile ago

Also Neon sort of had a weird comment to Anne about how they’d kill Mac if they were Anne “to lock in the townread” which could’ve been what Neon did to Mac - plus in general just see the most partner potential between Jack/Neon here.

–

p#111 interaction from Sabi toward Neon feels pingy.

Maybe lack of general partner interactions from Sabi could make sense?

Sabi treatment of Pyxxy/Schia seems a bit unpaired.

You seem to scum read me very heavily on a joke post about Jack lol