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Russtifinko wrote:Again, can anybody confirm that Snowie's puzzle was unique and right, please? I'm at work and can check it at 5 when I go home, but the sooner I know the better. He already checked it up to llama's, so half the worm is done.
It's too late to change anything now.
I agree that the sabie case is not really stronger than any other so far but one of them has to be right! And why MM? You making a case later?Russtifinko wrote:Thanks, Snowie.
This might sound crazy or even absolutely batshit, but fingers has convinced me. I'm almost positive she's a civ now. So I will be changing my vote, and I think others should not vote for her.
However, I also think that no one at all should be voting sabie. The case against her is weak, and basically dates back to her being confused about the roles on Day 1. It's too easy, just like every other lynch this game has been.
At work and can't make cases now, but I now think we should be looking at someone who did send in a puzzle, maybe someone who's been very helpful this game. I think MM is a good place to start. And PLEASE do not lynch sabie, I think it'll turn out badly
I agree with this. I voted for a string of civs in DW (before my recruitment) and my confidence was knocked a hell of a lot. While I applaud her trying to help and find baddies, I wonder whether there is more to it. I'd question myself a lot if I was her and she is civ.Russtifinko wrote:I'll be more exact now: I think votes are coming in because there are cases, and not because they're good ones, and fingersplints is the one putting them there. As MR, myself, and others have noted, the fact that she has caused 3 civs in a row to be lynched hasn't made her hesitant in the slightest to go after more, and she's not getting nearly the scrutiny over it that she should be. I'm voting her today, and I help the rest of you will look at the record, make up your minds on this case's merits, and join me.
1. This was the sort of bullshit Boogs came out with. I don't think you're talking about me but I'm going to have to stop trying to raise Ganon's funds if every day the ones who try come under suspicion. I won't be the only one either.Russtifinko wrote:At work and can't make cases now, but I now think we should be looking at someone who did send in a puzzle, maybe someone who's been very helpful this game. I think MM is a good place to start. And PLEASE do not lynch sabie, I think it'll turn out badly
This seemed like a convenient time to think splints is bad.sabie12 wrote:After all of this discussion, I'm starting to see how splints could be bad. If she wanted to frame Russ or Made for SVS she could because they are the ones SVS was suspicious of. She was a part of the hedge civ lynch and also has voted for and is going after Russ and posting about Russ. Then all of the sudden now she agrees with llama and votes me without much of a case against me. I don't know what I did other than be busy and not post as much. I haven't been a part of the most recent civ lynches.
Monopoly has just started :P Speaking of which...nijuukyugou wrote:Zeek, I am enjoying your gradual embellishment of DT (Doctor Moneybags, I presume?)
Russtifinko wrote:One of them does not have to be right.
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I didn't vote for a string of civvies though, I voted for one.zeek wrote:I agree with this. I voted for a string of civs in DW (before my recruitment) and my confidence was knocked a hell of a lot. While I applaud her trying to help and find baddies, I wonder whether there is more to it. I'd question myself a lot if I was her and she is civ.Russtifinko wrote:I'll be more exact now: I think votes are coming in because there are cases, and not because they're good ones, and fingersplints is the one putting them there. As MR, myself, and others have noted, the fact that she has caused 3 civs in a row to be lynched hasn't made her hesitant in the slightest to go after more, and she's not getting nearly the scrutiny over it that she should be. I'm voting her today, and I help the rest of you will look at the record, make up your minds on this case's merits, and join me.
Why do you care about this at this point? It's too late to make changes. I'm curious as to why this is so important to you.Russtifinko wrote:Again, can anybody confirm that Snowie's puzzle was unique and right, please? I'm at work and can check it at 5 when I go home, but the sooner I know the better. He already checked it up to llama's, so half the worm is done.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I see you sort of addressed this above, but I still don't see what difference it makes if Snowy's puzzle was unique.thellama73 wrote:Why do you care about this at this point? It's too late to make changes. I'm curious as to why this is so important to you.Russtifinko wrote:Again, can anybody confirm that Snowie's puzzle was unique and right, please? I'm at work and can check it at 5 when I go home, but the sooner I know the better. He already checked it up to llama's, so half the worm is done.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
My thoughts exactly, while I have gut pings on Splints and Snow, I don't have anything compelling on them to back it up. I'm going to be busy for the rest of the day so i have to vote now, but if i get a chance to catch up from my phone, I will.Elohcin wrote:My thoughts are that the baddies are being very discrete because I don't think any of the cases against people are particularly strong, as Snow Dog said. And, on top of that, I am having a hard time finding a case against anyone even though I have reread individual players. But, I believe the strongest case (although not strong) is the one on Sabie. So...that is where my vote will go.
I will be utterly shocked if Sabie doesn't flip baddie. I think she's extremely transparent.Snow Dog wrote:I am voting for sabie and crossing my fingers on this one.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I discussed them. I strongly disagree that I led them to be lynched. Made I barely mentioned. Boogs I will give him that I discussed a bunch and did consider voting. He has since retracted his vote and suspicion. Its all detailed in the original post.zeek wrote:Sorry, I haven't been attending to this game as much as I'd like. Why does the OP say you've caused three civs to be lynched?
Why are you mischaracterizing the case on Sabie?Russtifinko wrote:Thanks, Snowie.
This might sound crazy or even absolutely batshit, but fingers has convinced me. I'm almost positive she's a civ now. So I will be changing my vote, and I think others should not vote for her.
However, I also think that no one at all should be voting sabie. The case against her is weak, and basically dates back to her being confused about the roles on Day 1. It's too easy, just like every other lynch this game has been.
At work and can't make cases now, but I now think we should be looking at someone who did send in a puzzle, maybe someone who's been very helpful this game. I think MM is a good place to start. And PLEASE do not lynch sabie, I think it'll turn out badly
Llama might be bad.sabie12 wrote:Well hey the baddies are winning this game. I've surprised you before Llama and I guess I will surprise you again. I'm not bad but I strongly feel that splints and llama are. Good luck to the civs that are left after you kill me and realize I'm good. I must just not be good at this game or something because I don't know what it is that I'm doing wrong this game. Maybe I'm just an idiot and don't even realize it. Sigh
Your first mistake was being a baddie. Your second mistake was letting us catch you.sabie12 wrote:Someone please help me out here and tell me what I've been doing wrong? I could use the advice maybe for the next game.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
), but I feel incredibly behind and out of the loop here.I suppose that depends on whether you're good or bad?sabie12 wrote:Someone please help me out here and tell me what I've been doing wrong?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Snow Dog wrote:The vote on sabie is getting strong, despite Russti's misgivings. And I can see why. It's an itch that has to be scratched.
The itch doesn't have to be scratched! It doesn't have to end!LizKeen wrote:Ugh, every time I try to post something goes wrong.
I'm going to vote for Sabie today because this has been going on for days and I'd just like to end it and I haven't felt good about her since Day 1.
Russ you confound me today.
Fair enough. A real case, based on me acting (I admit it) weird as hell. In fact, I would much rather everyone vote me than sabie. So bring it on! There's plenty of ammo to use building a case, and I can take it.nijuukyugou wrote:Wow. 9 votes for sabie. I'm not entirely sure why people are so sure she's bad, and why so many people have voted. Liz's vote to "get it over with" looks pretty off, too. My own initial ping with sabie had to do with her eagerness to see Made 2.0 as bad the day he was made...Made 2.0, but otherwise, not really sure. A lot of people are saying "insincere posting" and others seem to be voting "just because." This is worrisome, so even if it doesn't do much for the lynch today, I'm not gonna add vote #10.
Russ, I applaud your effort to get votes off of sabie and your massive case on splints, but you're all over the place, dude. One minute you're hardcore on splints, and then you're not. Same thing with the Boogs lynch, except in the opposite direction (not as hardcore on Boogs as your were with splints, but still). I understand that opinions can change, but I've played before with people who are "wishy-washy" in the thread and are bad, and others who point fingers at everyone they can, then back off to sneak suspicion in and they've been bad. This "all over the place-ness" (this is also a word because I said so) pings me more than sabie. Honestly, I'm really surprised no one has pointed this out as suspicious (unless I missed something, and sorry if I did and I'm taking credit). I'm putting my vote on Russ.
@sabie - You are doing nothing wrong! I think many people can attest to playing all different ways and getting themselves lynched, but also being able to stay alive and win. Talk too little, get lynched. Talk too much, get lynched. Too helpful, not helpful, too much in the middle, get lynched. It's a difficult game to get used to (I know I often have trouble keeping up and it took me a while to get used to accusing people while also realizing/hoping they won't get mad), but please keep playing!
I'm pretty much in a constant state of barely contained rage towards you.nijuukyugou wrote:it took me a while to get used to accusing people while also realizing/hoping they won't get mad), but please keep playing!
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Being the trusting mug that I am, i believe you and will remove my vote. Don't know where yet so self vote.sabie12 wrote:But I'm not bad this game so I'm clearly doing something wrong. Just not sure what it is. Not clearly articulating my posts? Not using enough emotion to drive my posts? Being too boring not boring enough? Sighhh Idk.
Don't feel strongly about either.Russtifinko wrote:Vote MM! Or me, or whoever you feel strongest about.
Oh, and I should probably address this. I know it's not "normal" behavior, and that it might look shady. I don't have a great explanation, unfortunately. All I can really say to explain myself is things change. Posts get made, the thread moves on, and my opinion changes with the new events - and that's how it should be, I think. It's just usually not nearly this much, or this fast.nijuukyugou wrote:Russ, I applaud your effort to get votes off of sabie and your massive case on splints, but you're all over the place, dude. One minute you're hardcore on splints, and then you're not. Same thing with the Boogs lynch, except in the opposite direction (not as hardcore on Boogs as your were with splints, but still). I understand that opinions can change, but I've played before with people who are "wishy-washy" in the thread and are bad, and others who point fingers at everyone they can, then back off to sneak suspicion in and they've been bad. This "all over the place-ness" (this is also a word because I said so) pings me more than sabie. Honestly, I'm really surprised no one has pointed this out as suspicious (unless I missed something, and sorry if I did and I'm taking credit). I'm putting my vote on Russ.
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Ok, neither me nor MM, then. But there's no one else in the whole wide world you have your own little personal ping about? Even someone you don't have any evidence against at all who you just think on a whim might be bad?Snow Dog wrote:Don't feel strongly about either.Russtifinko wrote:Vote MM! Or me, or whoever you feel strongest about.
Yeah Boogs....and look how that turned out. I'll think about it. Dom possibly? I just don't think he'd act this way if bad. I dunno.Russtifinko wrote:Ok, neither me nor MM, then. But there's no one else in the whole wide world you have your own little personal ping about? Even someone you don't have any evidence against at all who you just think on a whim might be bad?Snow Dog wrote:Don't feel strongly about either.Russtifinko wrote:Vote MM! Or me, or whoever you feel strongest about.
How is this a better reason than those given for voting sabie?Russtifinko wrote:Even someone you don't have any evidence against at all who you just think on a whim might be bad?
I think Dexter was my fourth but I lost for a long time after that. I just recently started winning in a serious way.S~V~S wrote:I played maybe 7 or 8 games before I won one.
Russtifinko wrote:Fair enough. A real case, based on me acting (I admit it) weird as hell. In fact, I would much rather everyone vote me than sabie. So bring it on! There's plenty of ammo to use building a case, and I can take it.nijuukyugou wrote:Wow. 9 votes for sabie. I'm not entirely sure why people are so sure she's bad, and why so many people have voted. Liz's vote to "get it over with" looks pretty off, too. My own initial ping with sabie had to do with her eagerness to see Made 2.0 as bad the day he was made...Made 2.0, but otherwise, not really sure. A lot of people are saying "insincere posting" and others seem to be voting "just because." This is worrisome, so even if it doesn't do much for the lynch today, I'm not gonna add vote #10.
Russ, I applaud your effort to get votes off of sabie and your massive case on splints, but you're all over the place, dude. One minute you're hardcore on splints, and then you're not. Same thing with the Boogs lynch, except in the opposite direction (not as hardcore on Boogs as your were with splints, but still). I understand that opinions can change, but I've played before with people who are "wishy-washy" in the thread and are bad, and others who point fingers at everyone they can, then back off to sneak suspicion in and they've been bad. This "all over the place-ness" (this is also a word because I said so) pings me more than sabie. Honestly, I'm really surprised no one has pointed this out as suspicious (unless I missed something, and sorry if I did and I'm taking credit). I'm putting my vote on Russ.
@sabie - You are doing nothing wrong! I think many people can attest to playing all different ways and getting themselves lynched, but also being able to stay alive and win. Talk too little, get lynched. Talk too much, get lynched. Too helpful, not helpful, too much in the middle, get lynched. It's a difficult game to get used to (I know I often have trouble keeping up and it took me a while to get used to accusing people while also realizing/hoping they won't get mad), but please keep playing!
For my part, I'm voting MM. No time for a case right now, so I don't expect him to be lynched, but I think he needs the attention and I'll put one together as soon as I'm able.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:33 pm Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?
The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot.
