Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[Sabiplz]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

[Valentine]

Inaw using vibes to read me when they've never played with me before and thus have no vibe context is so absurd it's quite likely town

do u think ur Immune to vibe reads without prior context? :?

No.


Do I think vibe reading a player with 0 history at the start of the game is a strong strat for Maf hunting?


No.


It's such a weak strat, it's prolly town

hmmm i think i just don't like this like. idk it feels like Downplay of the read i guess? method? because i disagree and think how a person like sounds in thread can be supremely useful

idk if this reply even matters since it ultimately just is like me going ...yeah! but U know. contribution

Do you think, or do you know?



Cuz you're pushing my slot quite timidly based off anothers poor read on my slot.


And make no mistake, I am not trying to downplay the read on my slot, I am openly saying it's a tee ball league way to read me.

i think! i don't really communicate in like. concrete much.
i also don't rlly think this constitutes a push? :? your wording around it feels a little prickly

[Sabiplz]

Falcon in song form:

[Creature]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

Thoughts on Le petit pousse and Valentine?

[hollowkatt]

I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ

Yh falcon wolfy

- pop in
- joke vote
- turns joke vote real
- ghosts

Vibes of forced solving and fear of rvs

My two reads:
Nut v

Falcon w

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

What about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic since

I didn't explain just because IDK how to fully explain it but I will try

To me this sort of sheeping someone else early is town indicative moreso then not. It isn't something that is overexplained, but there is a slight reason there besides a naked vote.
I like to call reads like this a pattern read since it is more a pattern I notice via town versus mafia
I know you have your whole vibe read thing too, so I have that familiarity with you and you can partially also call it a vibe
In fact I find your method of scumreading falcon probs townier then DZ just on principle of I think just DZ saying that and making you yourself check falcon. Well, he didn't make you, you went out of your way to check falcon's ISO off this post to see if DZ's claim had viability.
no thoughts of my own is technically correct, but all falcon really did was pop in and then just vote Sabi for rickroll then dipped basically.

How would you follow up on the topic if between this time and the time you posted this falcon has said nothing? I would be more concerned about this if it was EOD, you had a static vote on falcon and you haven't addressed he hasn't done anything since you voted falcon originally

That makes sense, and I appreciate you mentioning the bolded just because that was my exact thought process when I saw Zeus' post

I define "follow up" in this instance as explaining why I agree and my own reasons for thinking Falcon was wolfy based on his ISO. I completely understand the point you're making, I just mentally approached it from a different perspective

to that end specifically, being that I brought it up,

Falcon's OP feels very forced and reads tonally awkward. I am aware it makes me a bit of a hypocrite saying that considering that I already get on people for scumreading my OPs, but unless it's a direct quote from somewhere (in which case, it is manufactured, just as a copypasta), it feels like trying too hard to have an interesting OP rather than being a natural flow. That puts Falcon in a rough spot for me, because from the getgo the vibe he gives off is very stilted, and that makes me look at his posts after with a critical eye

Reading it through, and putting my thoughts onto paper, I think I jumped the gun a bit on the agreement and was moreso just wanting to agree with Sabi because I took the time to look at Falcon's ISO, rather than giving Falcon's ISO actual, methodical consideration. It doesn't read as bad now on a second run-through. HOWEVER, I do not like his 6th post (which has been posted since my post so there is new content to consider RE: your commentary Cape). Falcon's gone for almost an hour and a half, makes a comment on Zeus that isn't too far post-wise from the last post he quoted-commented on, and then vanishes again. Let alone the fact that he still seems to be in RVS mode an hour later while most have switched to finding game stuff, commenting specifically on a Zeus post to be another peddler of the "Zeus is sober" conspiracy (which is great btw, I want to hear more about that genuinely) when Zeus is the one who's saying that Falcon is mafia, reads in-context to be a very subtle dig at Zeus' credibility to paint him untrustworthy. What might you need to trust Zeus on? A w!Falcon read, for example

So I don't like that, at all, and of all players to comment on before disappearing again, and of all things to say about said player, it's the one player who's scumreading him, combined with a comment that throws more fuel into the fire of a thought that convenient paints said player in a shady manner, which benefits Falcon if it makes even one person put less stock into Zeus' thoughts about Falcon being mafia. If that makes any sense, I know where I'm going with the thought but I don't know if I'm explaining it properly

Regardless, back to here I go! [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I think you're explaining it properly. I think also however that you're doing a lot of reading into an interaction that may not actually have any merit to it. I like that you're using this as a springboard to further examine Falcon and trying to keep some pressure there.
It feels a lot like the basis for this read is a town read on zeus which I'm not sure how you're getting there exactly, or if you're approaching this from a "which player was weirder" perspective in which case I guess you don't need a preexisting town read of zeus to get to wolf falcon.

Do you town read zeus?

[falcon45ca]

I'm too fixated on you rn for you to qualify for my greatest contribution to D1's ever, but yes i would consider myself a very accurate SR when it counts because of the way I SR

Cool. I'm pretty sure you're town, so you'll be eating crow by game's end.



Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel a bit bad for you, cuz you seem quite proud of this read

[hollowkatt]

i really want to townread sabi again :/

Kill me before limlo.

lol, you saying this just makes me think ur townier

but fair enough

based on our last go round I'm not giving sabi a town read until I see a corpse or a green check

[Strawhenge]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

[nutella]

I'm too fixated on you rn for you to qualify for my greatest contribution to D1's ever, but yes i would consider myself a very accurate SR when it counts because of the way I SR

Cool. I'm pretty sure you're town, so you'll be eating crow by game's end.



Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel a bit bad for you, cuz you seem quite proud of this read

I vibe with this lol. Sorry iawy but I reread your read and just don't really think it's anything to write home about

[falcon45ca]

Inaw using vibes to read me when they've never played with me before and thus have no vibe context is so absurd it's quite likely town

do u think ur Immune to vibe reads without prior context? :?

No.


Do I think vibe reading a player with 0 history at the start of the game is a strong strat for Maf hunting?


No.


It's such a weak strat, it's prolly town

hmmm i think i just don't like this like. idk it feels like Downplay of the read i guess? method? because i disagree and think how a person like sounds in thread can be supremely useful

idk if this reply even matters since it ultimately just is like me going ...yeah! but U know. contribution

Do you think, or do you know?



Cuz you're pushing my slot quite timidly based off anothers poor read on my slot.


And make no mistake, I am not trying to downplay the read on my slot, I am openly saying it's a tee ball league way to read me.

i think! i don't really communicate in like. concrete much.
i also don't rlly think this constitutes a push? :? your wording around it feels a little prickly

Perhaps push is too strong a word for it, but it's certainly shade, sus, what have you.



Or how would you describe it?

[Inawordyes]

I kind of think IAWY is town just for his push on falcon off of DZ

You know what, I looked at his ISO and I agree

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

What about it is townie? I gave no thoughts of my own, nor have I followed up on the topic since

I didn't explain just because IDK how to fully explain it but I will try

To me this sort of sheeping someone else early is town indicative moreso then not. It isn't something that is overexplained, but there is a slight reason there besides a naked vote.
I like to call reads like this a pattern read since it is more a pattern I notice via town versus mafia
I know you have your whole vibe read thing too, so I have that familiarity with you and you can partially also call it a vibe
In fact I find your method of scumreading falcon probs townier then DZ just on principle of I think just DZ saying that and making you yourself check falcon. Well, he didn't make you, you went out of your way to check falcon's ISO off this post to see if DZ's claim had viability.
no thoughts of my own is technically correct, but all falcon really did was pop in and then just vote Sabi for rickroll then dipped basically.

How would you follow up on the topic if between this time and the time you posted this falcon has said nothing? I would be more concerned about this if it was EOD, you had a static vote on falcon and you haven't addressed he hasn't done anything since you voted falcon originally

That makes sense, and I appreciate you mentioning the bolded just because that was my exact thought process when I saw Zeus' post

I define "follow up" in this instance as explaining why I agree and my own reasons for thinking Falcon was wolfy based on his ISO. I completely understand the point you're making, I just mentally approached it from a different perspective

to that end specifically, being that I brought it up,

Falcon's OP feels very forced and reads tonally awkward. I am aware it makes me a bit of a hypocrite saying that considering that I already get on people for scumreading my OPs, but unless it's a direct quote from somewhere (in which case, it is manufactured, just as a copypasta), it feels like trying too hard to have an interesting OP rather than being a natural flow. That puts Falcon in a rough spot for me, because from the getgo the vibe he gives off is very stilted, and that makes me look at his posts after with a critical eye

Reading it through, and putting my thoughts onto paper, I think I jumped the gun a bit on the agreement and was moreso just wanting to agree with Sabi because I took the time to look at Falcon's ISO, rather than giving Falcon's ISO actual, methodical consideration. It doesn't read as bad now on a second run-through. HOWEVER, I do not like his 6th post (which has been posted since my post so there is new content to consider RE: your commentary Cape). Falcon's gone for almost an hour and a half, makes a comment on Zeus that isn't too far post-wise from the last post he quoted-commented on, and then vanishes again. Let alone the fact that he still seems to be in RVS mode an hour later while most have switched to finding game stuff, commenting specifically on a Zeus post to be another peddler of the "Zeus is sober" conspiracy (which is great btw, I want to hear more about that genuinely) when Zeus is the one who's saying that Falcon is mafia, reads in-context to be a very subtle dig at Zeus' credibility to paint him untrustworthy. What might you need to trust Zeus on? A w!Falcon read, for example

So I don't like that, at all, and of all players to comment on before disappearing again, and of all things to say about said player, it's the one player who's scumreading him, combined with a comment that throws more fuel into the fire of a thought that convenient paints said player in a shady manner, which benefits Falcon if it makes even one person put less stock into Zeus' thoughts about Falcon being mafia. If that makes any sense, I know where I'm going with the thought but I don't know if I'm explaining it properly

Regardless, back to here I go! [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I think you're explaining it properly. I think also however that you're doing a lot of reading into an interaction that may not actually have any merit to it. I like that you're using this as a springboard to further examine Falcon and trying to keep some pressure there.
It feels a lot like the basis for this read is a town read on zeus which I'm not sure how you're getting there exactly, or if you're approaching this from a "which player was weirder" perspective in which case I guess you don't need a preexisting town read of zeus to get to wolf falcon.

Do you town read zeus?

I don't have a read of note on Zeus either way. If anything, I could come to a townread of Zeus by proxy from this read rather than the reverse

[DaughterOfOmega]

Why post many when few do trick

[hollowkatt]

I don't think DrZeus is drunk fwiw. it is getting interesting lol.

This is TMI, maybe. DrZeus/Petit might be w/w

[VOTE: Guillotina] aubergine

No chance you believe this read

do u think the read itself is ridiculous or guillo making this read is ridiculous??

cuz ive seen guillo do this a ton

Guillo finding hidden meaning in seemingly simple things is nothing new. But this seemed a tad overboard. Plus this marked Guillo's first bit of content this game and I just do not see the fire right now

I've said this before and I'll say it again: Guillo without fire is wolf guillo.
Wolf guillo wants to cause chaos and get his pack deeper but he doesn't want to get drawn into knock down fights. Town guillo otoh plays a much more freestyle and "aggro-adjacent" game that gets under peoples skin and makes them do weird things to counter him.

That's the best way I've found to catch wolf guillo. Look for controlled chaos and pushes that seem feisty but lack the underlying fire

[Inawordyes]

I'm too fixated on you rn for you to qualify for my greatest contribution to D1's ever, but yes i would consider myself a very accurate SR when it counts because of the way I SR

Cool. I'm pretty sure you're town, so you'll be eating crow by game's end.



Don't take this the wrong way, but I feel a bit bad for you, cuz you seem quite proud of this read

I vibe with this lol. Sorry iawy but I reread your read and just don't really think it's anything to write home about

Is okay, I appreciate your handling of it considering you're not actively insulting me directly in the process but sticking purely to the content itself

[Creature]

Seven pages already. I'm gonna need a bunch of cocaine and bell peppers to play this game, aren't I.

Oh right wouldn't be a game without someone complaining about the thread being active.

Was there a complaint there? Just an observation, man. We're all cool, here, man.

Yeah I mean wouldn't be a game if someone didn't mention "wow there are X pages already"

Sorry if it came accross as rude

[Cape90]

Falcon's OP feels very forced and reads tonally awkward. I am aware it makes me a bit of a hypocrite saying that considering that I already get on people for scumreading my OPs, but unless it's a direct quote from somewhere (in which case, it is manufactured, just as a copypasta), it feels like trying too hard to have an interesting OP rather than being a natural flow. That puts Falcon in a rough spot for me, because from the getgo the vibe he gives off is very stilted, and that makes me look at his posts after with a critical eye

The town game that I linked of falcon, they quite literally opened in... just about the same way, the posts are almost identical

Reading it through, and putting my thoughts onto paper, I think I jumped the gun a bit on the agreement and was moreso just wanting to agree with Sabi because I took the time to look at Falcon's ISO, rather than giving Falcon's ISO actual, methodical consideration. It doesn't read as bad now on a second run-through. HOWEVER, I do not like his 6th post (which has been posted since my post so there is new content to consider RE: your commentary Cape)

oh, okay? There isn't much methodically to think about, I think falcon's 6th post is worth something at least

So im mega drunk posting and i think nutellas treatment of me is most v

Shes kinda just tolersting me without forcing a read on me or trying to force content. I think theres liggt sussing but shes not trying to showcase belief etc

I particulrly compare to last game where it was obv she did

Mac has told me she has more range than expected so obvs not locked in

But my first town read

80% chance this dude is sober

It shows him at least backreading. Though if Guillotina's thoughts are holding true, can you believe the wolves are just so generous in just outing to us in this fashion?
Uh IDK I think it's an alright post I guess?

There definitely is some discernable gaps in falcon's postings, with like 2 of them being 20 minutes apart from each other saying nothing that is really deep.

I am still at a shrug though on falcon, maybe even EV+ for falcon

[Sabiplz]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

Thoughts on Le petit pousse and Valentine?

Le petit felt flaily and I was not a fan of them making a read off rvs fluff based off content (and not tone)

Valentine is playing the new kid card so I'm giving them till mid D1 to get comfortable before I read them.

[falcon45ca]

Valentine latching on to Inaw's vibe read, and then sorting around it when confronted gives me wolfy vibes fo sho

[Valentine]

Inaw using vibes to read me when they've never played with me before and thus have no vibe context is so absurd it's quite likely town

do u think ur Immune to vibe reads without prior context? :?

No.


Do I think vibe reading a player with 0 history at the start of the game is a strong strat for Maf hunting?


No.


It's such a weak strat, it's prolly town

hmmm i think i just don't like this like. idk it feels like Downplay of the read i guess? method? because i disagree and think how a person like sounds in thread can be supremely useful

idk if this reply even matters since it ultimately just is like me going ...yeah! but U know. contribution

Do you think, or do you know?



Cuz you're pushing my slot quite timidly based off anothers poor read on my slot.


And make no mistake, I am not trying to downplay the read on my slot, I am openly saying it's a tee ball league way to read me.

i think! i don't really communicate in like. concrete much.
i also don't rlly think this constitutes a push? :? your wording around it feels a little prickly

Perhaps push is too strong a word for it, but it's certainly shade, sus, what have you.



Or how would you describe it?

i guess i'm just like curious? i didn't feel like a "oh i have a LEAD LET'S GOOOO" but just "oh something i'm actually... able to communicate on?"

i feel like a lot of what's happened this game so far is going over my head or seeped in some past experiences a bit/familiarity which makes it harder but vibes are something i like. use a lot so seeing someone downplay it makes me go !

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Valentine] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

Anyway I'll prob spend this night reading books I bought yesterday

Do you have no thoughts or comments to make

Yes, I do. Pushing falcon and me for dipping off is a pretty lazy thing to do and strikes as wolf scared to make enemies active in-thread.

I do think dz has been wolfy.

Iawy feels awkward and flaily.

Not going to try to read Nutella till d2

Quas has been solvey but idk if it's fake able or not.

Schiav seems comfortable and not stiff,getting towny pings.

you'd tell ur old pall HK if you were woofin, right?

Like I told snowy, kill me before limlo bestie

you got it.

now is fine [VOTE: sabi] aubergine

[DaughterOfOmega]

I haven't seen INAWY in years, brings back some memories

[Valentine]

fwiw i already burned the new uwu help me wolfcard under the name valentine on mu lol i can't do it again
i only have bees in my brain because of the site formatting

[Creature]

Why post many when few do trick

[Sabiplz]

i really want to townread sabi again :/

Kill me before limlo.

lol, you saying this just makes me think ur townier

but fair enough

based on our last go round I'm not giving sabi a town read until I see a corpse or a green check

Wow how long is this salt going to last?

[hollowkatt]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

which is funny because he is voting you

[Cape90]

Schiavetto town for blatant inconsistency.

She made playlists for everyone in champs semis

She was a wolf.

That is not my point. (spamming non game related posts is kinda wolfy yeah, but doing it just after accusing someone of it is erraticaly townie... or just a joke. Let me time to get used to their posting style )

idk what youre saying here tho this is hedgy beyond belief

I don't like the call out for this post being hedgy

[Inawordyes]

I haven't seen INAWY in years, brings back some memories

I apologize

[Creature]

[VOTE: Valentine] aubergine

[Cape90]

Quas not liking things for being awkward and hedgy seems so level 0 in general

[Valentine]

oh noooo, a wagon, whatever will i do

[hollowkatt]

i really want to townread sabi again :/

Kill me before limlo.

lol, you saying this just makes me think ur townier

but fair enough

based on our last go round I'm not giving sabi a town read until I see a corpse or a green check

Wow how long is this salt going to last?

till I catch wolf sabi or become comfortable finding town sabi. That is to say by the end of this game I'll have a decision one way or the other

[Cape90]

elite body war choice

though this was a based comment when quas typed this, I was listening to the new album

[DaughterOfOmega]

I'm in the game, and I randed town.

This makes Quas mafia based on logic.

Informing everyone

[hollowkatt]

oh noooo, a wagon, whatever will i do

Perish

[falcon45ca]

oh noooo, a wagon, whatever will i do

Prolly post something to make it seem as tho you're non-plussed

[Valentine]

Ahhhh please don't vote me. I am so fragile. Ic annot handle this

[Cape90]

of all the ppl chillin with their entrances schia felt the most awkward

I don't see it, I think Schiavetto entered fine

the self vote felt like trying too hard to me

trying too hard to what? it's early game

[Valentine]

oh noooo, a wagon, whatever will i do

Prolly post something to make it seem as tho you're non-plussed

Ur right because if i get run up enough i claim and then wagon moves away

i have a gene that makes me incapable of caring about wagons as town. Did i mention i'm town

[Sabiplz]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme

[Sabiplz]

i really want to townread sabi again :/

Kill me before limlo.

lol, you saying this just makes me think ur townier

but fair enough

based on our last go round I'm not giving sabi a town read until I see a corpse or a green check

Wow how long is this salt going to last?

till I catch wolf sabi or become comfortable finding town sabi. That is to say by the end of this game I'll have a decision one way or the other

I was town in the mash.

[falcon45ca]

oh noooo, a wagon, whatever will i do

Prolly post something to make it seem as tho you're non-plussed

Ur right because if i get run up enough i claim and then wagon moves away

i have a gene that makes me incapable of caring about wagons as town. Did i mention i'm town

I thought we weren't supposed to claim, so you may have to go back to the drawing board on that play


No, you didn't, but I just assumed you'd say so anyway

[DaughterOfOmega]

Ahhhh please don't vote me. I am so fragile. Ic annot handle this

Since god has given me the role of internet bully, if you post something like this I am forced through holy intervention to bully you.

[Sabiplz]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

which is funny because he is voting you

Based off rickrolling him

[Creature]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme

falcon pretty much fooled me in the baseball game.

[Valentine]

oh noooo, a wagon, whatever will i do

Prolly post something to make it seem as tho you're non-plussed

Ur right because if i get run up enough i claim and then wagon moves away

i have a gene that makes me incapable of caring about wagons as town. Did i mention i'm town

I thought we weren't supposed to claim, so you may have to go back to the drawing board on that play


No, you didn't, but I just assumed you'd say so anyway

Im town.

[falcon45ca]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme

See, now THAT'S how ya fuckin vibe read me.


Well done, Sabi

[Valentine]

Ahhhh please don't vote me. I am so fragile. Ic annot handle this

Since god has given me the role of internet bully, if you post something like this I am forced through holy intervention to bully you.

Oh no... ahhh...

[Inawordyes]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme

is casually making personal remarks about players he's responding to when he doesn't agree with them in every post addressed to or about them justfalconthings™ as well?

[Sabiplz]

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme

falcon pretty much fooled me in the baseball game.

Was that before or during his mafia burn out. Saga?