The Legend of Zelda (Ganon's Conquest) [ENDGAME]

[Russtifinko]

Also, fingers, Made was on the list of people I would definitely not lynch. However, things changed and the lists actually reversed, so he's someone I would be down to lynch. Everyone I would have lynched before I absolutely would not now. Long story.

This Russti. Now Made is on your lynch list, though I'm not sure who else was on your not-lynch list aside from players who're already dead.

Also, you said that everyone you would have lynched before (myself included) you wouldn't lynch now. But your opinion on me hasn't changed, and I've been asking for reasons why you think I'm bad since you quite suddenly placed your vote on me on Day 3. I'll go ahead and post a list of responses and other notable points, starting with his Day 3 vote.



http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 637#p95637 - Just completely out of left field. Didn't really acknowledge Boogs at all, other than the fact that he would probably be lynched.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 703#p95703 - In this interaction he agreed with me. That's great, I can deal with that. Still kind of odd though considering he just voted me because I could be bad.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 707#p95707 - Then there is this post. He first endorsed Boogs lynch, until it suddenly took off. Then he thinks Boogs shouldn't be lynched, because he thinks Boogs is civ. That is such a baddie ploy.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 104#p96104 - Then there is this giant wall of text. In it he talks about trying to get me lynched. Not true at all. Russti placed a vote on me on Day 3, which he later moved, and never up to that point (or later for that matter) had tried to get me lynched. This is the beginning of his case for fingers (which didn't last long), and also, near the bottom of this post, he claims that sabie is at the top of his lynch list. Keep that in mind. Moving on.

A bunch of Night 3 stuff regarding the kakuro and a few reactions and clarifications.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 267#p96267 - In retrospect, this post is completely opposite to what he'd been saying up to this point, as well as beyond. Not the next post too, where he said he would reconsider under extreme circumstances. It's just baffling. Oh, and by the way, he voted for me again on Day 4.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 302#p96302 - Here is the case against fingers. Time note, this rather lengthy case was posted at 10:20 PM EST.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 385#p96385 - At 1:23 PM EST, he completely switched regarding his position fingers. Not only this, but he changed his mind and decided that sabie should not be lynched. By my calculations, there were 6 votes on sabie at the time (though Snow Dog and Dom later switched). Sabie was at the top of Russti's lynch list just the previous night phase. But now that she has a sizable lead in the lynch, she shouldn't be lynched? This is the same baddie ploy we saw with the Boogs lynch. If I'm wrong on this. I'll eat my Keaton mask.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 446#p96446 - In this post, he completely backs of the sabie lynch, and calls for the rest of us to do the same, at a time when it ain't gonna happen. Baddie mcRussti.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 447#p96447 - Places his vote on me for Day 4, saying there is no time for a case. I don't think there's an intention to build a case. I think that he's just trying to stick to his guns on at least one suspicion. Otherwise, if you really think I'm bad, just give me some proof already.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 451#p96451
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 454#p96454 - Two more posts telling people to vote for me. No reasons. It looks more justifiable because he's offering his own head, but I'm calling BS.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 497#p96497 - States his suspicion of me again, says he will gather quotes for a case tonight. Crosswording continues.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 718#p96718 - Says he will wait until morning to make the case because making cases at night isn't 'smart'.



So that's two consecutive days that Russti has advocated a lynch the night before or even the very beginning of the day phase. But after the lynch gets rolling, he backs off and decides he doesn't like the idea of them getting lynched. I don't see this as a civvie with cold feet. This is a baddie looking for cred and an 'I told you so' after the lynch happens. Baddies know who the civvies are, so it's a perfect opportunity.

There's also the whole deal with his 'case' on me. Countless times he has mentioned me being potentially bad, but without bothering to pursue it at all. I'd love some input on this, but I'm convinced Mr. Russti is a Hyrulian.


Also, I added pretty colors since this wall of text looks so ugly otherwise.

Pretty good case, all in all. I would make 2 corrections:

1) You misread the quote where you say I'm for lynching Boogs. At no point was I for lynching him, as you can tell by the fingers post I quoted in my post you cited there.
2) I would argue I've been fairly consistent both before and after my major change. I just did a complete 180 at one moment, because my perspective on the game shifted. The one common thread from before and after is my suspicion of you, though you'll note it got a lot stronger in the "after" part.

All in all, a good preemptive strike, though. Kudos where it's due.

EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT BY PARTICIPATING, WE'RE DILUTING THE CHANCE OF FINDING A BADDIE IN THIS COMPETITION CORRECT???

No need to shout Made. We all hear the nonsense in your arguments just fine.

Again, the more people join, the more comfortable I'll feel with this. Math, sort of. And Made, the goodies don't have any more reason to grab it than the civs that I can see. And you're also ignoring the possibility of it being powerful in its own right (as in, not only as a part of the auto-win combo), which would make anyone want it.

[Russtifinko]

Doesn't matter, I've got golden gauntlets. They will crush your hopes and dreams and face.

Nope, this is personal now, I shall avenge Sabie's death! Baddies, civvies, indies, I'll rock them all in the Thunderdome!

PS: This is how I fight:



Hope you're ready for the pain!

Two men enter! One man leaves!

[sabie12]

Too many dudes, we need some ladies in the mix.

If I was still alive I would :P

[Epignosis]

You have ten minutes.

[Mister Rearranger]

Wtf what?

*arm wrestles MM, Splints, Made, etc...*

Did I win it?

[Epignosis]

Day 5: Serpentine! Serpentine!

zeek has been eliminated by Link’s sword.
Bass_the_Clever has been blown up.

“Yessss- Snake Eyes!” exclaimed the old man.

It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

[Snow Dog]

Oh shit. They can kill more than one? Fuck!

[Snow Dog]

Oh snap! Look at that poll!!! Rob you are so cunning!

[Snow Dog]

So. it seems as long as Hyrule have got the weapons they can use as many as they want? Or only up to the three? Or maybe River did a kill?

Thoughts?

[Russtifinko]

So. it seems as long as Hyrule have got the weapons they can use as many as they want? Or only up to the three? Or maybe River did a kill?

Thoughts?

Bomb is one of the items, Snowie. I would presume that's how they did it.

Bothersome, because it means they're not feeling threatened enough to use their rupees on protections instead, which means we're not even close (to at least one of them).

All the more reason for you people to think outside the box.

[Russtifinko]

We should probably think over our votes today. Does a random non-lynchee get the Triforce piece? The person with the least votes? The second-most?

[Snow Dog]

So. it seems as long as Hyrule have got the weapons they can use as many as they want? Or only up to the three? Or maybe River did a kill?

Thoughts?

Bomb is one of the items, Snowie. I would presume that's how they did it.

Bothersome, because it means they're not feeling threatened enough to use their rupees on protections instead, which means we're not even close (to at least one of them).

All the more reason for you people to think outside the box.

I know bomb is one of the items, hence my questions.

[thellama73]

This does not bode well.

[Snow Dog]

This does not bode well.

Hopefully there is at least one mafia amongst them. And who do we trust the most to get fewest votes?

[Mister Rearranger]

Not the subtlest of baddies, are you Snow?

For all Made's bluster, he never signed up for the challenge.

Thinking about which of the 3 options above my name I get the worst vibes from. I recommend that others do the same.

Russ is all over the place this time, so I'll need to take a detailed look at him as well. He could certainly be a certain baddie role, I suppose. But I think the "I'm bad so I'll vehemently defend a civvie that everyone else suspects" is an incredibly ballsy and unnecessary move when none of the baddies had drawn any heat.

[Mister Rearranger]

We should probably think over our votes today. Does a random non-lynchee get the Triforce piece? The person with the least votes? The second-most?

I'ma put it out there right now: I think it would be wise if I wound up getting the piece.

[nijuukyugou]

Well holy shit, wasn't expecting THAT to be the challenge. Epi is an evil, cunning bastard :P

I was also wondering the mechanics of this - the person on the poll with the fewest votes gets the Triforce? What if there's a tie in either direction?

[Marmot]

We should probably think over our votes today. Does a random non-lynchee get the Triforce piece? The person with the least votes? The second-most?

The question asked is "Who eliminated zeek and Bass?"

This looks like a lynch poll.

My vote has been thought about and placed.

[Bass_the_Clever]

went out with a bang.

[Marmot]

went out with a bang.

RIP Bassmeister. That you did.

[Made]

Rip Bass, gonna vote MM, he all but outed himself, gg tho.
I might be back later tonight, Homework

[Elohcin]

Man, two! RIP guys. And the poll.....is it a lynch poll/the challenge?

[thellama73]

I was all set to vote Russ, but I don't know, it feels too easy! I am getting paranoid now and second guessing myself.
I will think about this, do some reading, and vote tomorrow.

[fingersplints]

Rip Bass, gonna vote MM, he all but outed himself, gg tho.
I might be back later tonight, Homework

why no RIP to zeek??

RIPIYWG guys.

So, curious how we should do this poll. If it works like a lynch poll, I will likely vote russ, and if not him Made. I do not like how made keeps putting himself forward like everyone trusts him, and I feel like his actions last night were incredibly sketchy.

[fingersplints]

Rip Bass, gonna vote MM, he all but outed himself, gg tho.
I might be back later tonight, Homework

why no RIP to zeek??

RIPIYWG guys.

So, curious how we should do this poll. If it works like a lynch poll, I will likely vote russ, and if not him Made. I do not like how made keeps putting himself forward like everyone trusts him, and I feel like his actions last night were incredibly sketchy.

Oh Made didn't go for it. NVM I thought he was going to. umm IDK if not russ then. I don't have solid civ or baddie vibes from MM or MR, but am leaning towards good on Dom.

[Elohcin]

Rip Bass, gonna vote MM, he all but outed himself, gg tho.
I might be back later tonight, Homework

why no RIP to zeek??

RIPIYWG guys.

So, curious how we should do this poll. If it works like a lynch poll, I will likely vote russ, and if not him Made. I do not like how made keeps putting himself forward like everyone trusts him, and I feel like his actions last night were incredibly sketchy.

Even though Made isn't on the poll, I agree with your thoughts here.

[zeek]

Well, that sucks. Seems people like to murder me every Night 4 here

[LizKeen]

Well, that sucks. Seems people like to murder me every Night 4 here

RIP Zeek. I was waiting on that post you said you were going to make because I was leaning towards thinking you might be Hyrule but Link's sword took care of that suspicion.
We still don't know what Bass's allegiance was so RIWYEU (wherever you end up).

4 questions:

Can the host clear up if this is the lynch poll?

Is there some prize I'm not aware of for crazy posting? If so I can go apeshit. :P

Russ, would you care to fill us in on this "long story"? I have time now.

Can someone tell me if this is Snowdog's usual game style? It doesn't seem all that civvie to me.

[Russtifinko]

Not the subtlest of baddies, are you Snow?

For all Made's bluster, he never signed up for the challenge.

Thinking about which of the 3 options above my name I get the worst vibes from. I recommend that others do the same.

Russ is all over the place this time, so I'll need to take a detailed look at him as well. He could certainly be a certain baddie role, I suppose. But I think the "I'm bad so I'll vehemently defend a civvie that everyone else suspects" is an incredibly ballsy and unnecessary move when none of the baddies had drawn any heat.

That's what I've been saying!

[Russtifinko]

Well, that sucks. Seems people like to murder me every Night 4 here

RIP Zeek. I was waiting on that post you said you were going to make because I was leaning towards thinking you might be Hyrule but Link's sword took care of that suspicion.
We still don't know what Bass's allegiance was so RIWYEU (wherever you end up).

4 questions:

Can the host clear up if this is the lynch poll?

Is there some prize I'm not aware of for crazy posting? If so I can go apeshit. :P

Russ, would you care to fill us in on this "long story"? I have time now.

Can someone tell me if this is Snowdog's usual game style? It doesn't seem all that civvie to me.

Haha please do go apeshit!

The story is still being written. Check back before bed.

[Marmot]

Well, that sucks. Seems people like to murder me every Night 4 here

RIP Zeek. I was waiting on that post you said you were going to make because I was leaning towards thinking you might be Hyrule but Link's sword took care of that suspicion.
We still don't know what Bass's allegiance was so RIWYEU (wherever you end up).

4 questions:

Can the host clear up if this is the lynch poll?

Is there some prize I'm not aware of for crazy posting? If so I can go apeshit. :P

Russ, would you care to fill us in on this "long story"? I have time now.

Can someone tell me if this is Snowdog's usual game style? It doesn't seem all that civvie to me.

It's the same thing that got him lynched in Dr. Who, and he was civ there. He (nor Made) have seemed out of the ordinary to me.



Russti, I await your case.

[Epignosis]

Can the host clear up if this is the lynch poll?

It is.

[Russtifinko]

Day 1: Thinks MM is a baddie.

made it's because metal marsh is a baddie
trust.

Day 4: Still thinks MM is a baddie.

Sabie gets my vote.

Besides Sabie who else is on your radar?

I did talk about this with Llama.

Llama, Made, and MM.

Day 4 again: Gives me the eye for voting MM.

For my part, I'm voting MM. No time for a case right now, so I don't expect him to be lynched, but I think he needs the attention and I'll put one together as soon as I'm able.

Did you not say it was "off" when I did the exact same thing?
Also, why MM?

Night 3: Questions Snowie's suspicion of Made:

Ok I''l bite. What's your point?

Why are you suspicious of Made

Day 4: Is suspicious of Made (see quote above in the MM section).

But most importantly, is acting super weird for Dom:

I also think Dom has been acting different than I'm used to, but I don't think it's in a suspicious way.

I have no clue what you're talking about!:srsnod:

Not sure how well I can read Boogs, but Dom is an often a tough one for me too. I feel his posts seem less passionate and committed when he's bad though, in general.

I'd say "less passionate or committed" sounds like the Dom I've seen this game, compared to normal Dom.

2. Dom voted for me super early and giving no reason. That's annoying. Why, Dom, why?

linki: I also agree that "go civvies" comments smell fishy.

And Dom. DOM! Dom has posted one word today. ONE WORD. And that word was "llama." Come on man, you can do better than that.

I guess I can.

Whom did you two have in mind? I wouldn't object to a Dom lynch. His play is not at all like himself this game.

That makes me bad, Llama?

Now, I'm not certain he's bad. There are 2 players I feel much more strongly about, but neither is on the poll today. (Which, if Dom is bad, fits with my "one baddie will try to win the Triforce" theory, but that's another thing.)

Anyway, Dom is the person on this poll ho I feel worst about.

[Russtifinko]

Edit: I'm not 100% on Dom being bad, but he is the person on this poll about whom I feel the worst. And it's not even close, like, not even in the same nebula.

[Russtifinko]

MM, thoughts since you're here? On me, Dom, or anyone else?

[Marmot]

Now, I'm not certain he's bad. There are 2 players I feel much more strongly about, but neither is on the poll today. (Which, if Dom is bad, fits with my "one baddie will try to win the Triforce" theory, but that's another thing.)

Anyway, Dom is the person on this poll ho I feel worst about.

If Dom is a baddie, what does that make me?

And that line about 2 other players looks a bit convenient.

[Marmot]

MM, thoughts since you're here? On me, Dom, or anyone else?

My thoughts on you haven't changed. I'm gonna continue pestering you too until you post that case you've been talking about.

Dom hasn't pinged me as a baddie. Even his shenanigans from the first 2-3 days, I'm leaving alone. I know he was quite frustrated about how the Dr. Who game turned out (as was I); I was his BTSC partner, so got to witness firsthand and behind the scences. I think he's just trying something different here.

I'm holding off on judgment of llama right now, but I trust him.

Fingers I'm pretty certain is civ.

Made I am in the middle. This is standard Made behavior.

I thought zeek might be a quiet baddie partner, but that idea was shot to pieces.

[Russtifinko]

Oh no! I didn't attach the rest of my case to this. Read this part first, please.

Shocking plot twist: (Or maybe this will shock no one...)

I was thinking wrong again before. I am now 100 billion quadrillion percent certain I am right, if you guys will be believe that. And I solemnly swear my crazy switchiness is over for the rest of the game.

MM is not a goodie like I thought. I think we should give either him or me the Triforce today.

Also, Dom is my biggest suspect on the potential lynch list today. You guys think I've acted weird, well check this out:

I don't believe Dom. I think he's lying and untrustworthy.

I am.

Day 1: Outs self.
Day 4: Goes nuts when I "out myself".

[Russtifinko]

MM, thoughts since you're here? On me, Dom, or anyone else?

My thoughts on you haven't changed. I'm gonna continue pestering you too until you post that case you've been talking about.

Dom hasn't pinged me as a baddie. Even his shenanigans from the first 2-3 days, I'm leaving alone. I know he was quite frustrated about how the Dr. Who game turned out (as was I); I was his BTSC partner, so got to witness firsthand and behind the scences. I think he's just trying something different here.

I'm holding off on judgment of llama right now, but I trust him.

Fingers I'm pretty certain is civ.

Made I am in the middle. This is standard Made behavior.

I thought zeek might be a quiet baddie partner, but that idea was shot to pieces.

Fair enough about Dom. As you can see from the bit of my post I left off, the case on you isn't coming. So no pestering, please. Also, I agree with you on fingers. And trusting llama =/= holding off judgement on him. :P

[Mister Rearranger]

I know he was quite frustrated about how the Dr. Who game turned out (as was I); I was his BTSC partner, so got to witness firsthand and behind the scences. I think he's just trying something different here.

He thinks he was frustrated? He should talk to the guy he killed on N1!

[Russtifinko]

Oh! As a heads-up, I will be out of town tomorrow evening thru Sunday, so I'll only be posting/doing stuff sporadically during that time. Which is a pain because I'm so into this.

[fingersplints]

MM, thoughts since you're here? On me, Dom, or anyone else?

My thoughts on you haven't changed. I'm gonna continue pestering you too until you post that case you've been talking about.

Dom hasn't pinged me as a baddie. Even his shenanigans from the first 2-3 days, I'm leaving alone. I know he was quite frustrated about how the Dr. Who game turned out (as was I); I was his BTSC partner, so got to witness firsthand and behind the scences. I think he's just trying something different here.

I'm holding off on judgment of llama right now, but I trust him.

Fingers I'm pretty certain is civ.

Made I am in the middle. This is standard Made behavior.

I thought zeek might be a quiet baddie partner, but that idea was shot to pieces.

Fair enough about Dom. As you can see from the bit of my post I left off, the case on you isn't coming. So no pestering, please. Also, I agree with you on fingers. And trusting llama =/= holding off judgement on him. :P

If you are both certain that I am a civvie, you wouldn't mind giving me the triforce then.

[Dom]

u caught me russ

[Dom]

My instinct is to trust Made's alignment this game, even if I don't agree with everything he's saying lol

no

[LizKeen]

Oh no! I didn't attach the rest of my case to this. Read this part first, please.

Shocking plot twist: (Or maybe this will shock no one...)

I was thinking wrong again before. I am now 100 billion quadrillion percent certain I am right, if you guys will be believe that. And I solemnly swear my crazy switchiness is over for the rest of the game.

MM is not a goodie like I thought. I think we should give either him or me the Triforce today.

Also, Dom is my biggest suspect on the potential lynch list today. You guys think I've acted weird, well check this out:

I don't believe Dom. I think he's lying and untrustworthy.

I am.

Day 1: Outs self.
Day 4: Goes nuts when I "out myself".

wth? Put down the crack pipe, get some fresh air.

I seriously am not sure what you or Made are doing. At least he's been uber-helpful puzzle-wise. Although maybe it's a double bluff, like I couldn't be Hyrule because I'm so helpful and wouldn't my team tell me to shut up...but then maybe that's what we're supposed to think? But he's not on the poll so a discussion for another day as is Snow. I'm going to bed soon and this post isn't coming obviously because you've changed your mind. Again.

I'm starting to think maybe you're trying to take the heat because maybe you have some power that allows you to survive a lynch or appear Ganon. And I'm getting a very iffy feeling about your massive post against FS and then reversal. And that after I made a comment about how much she posts when she says she doesn't have time then she's not posting so much. If my spidey senses are in any way right I'm going to vote her today because I'm not at all sure I'd trust whatever a lynch on you would say. It doesn't look good that she will be lynched but if she is and she's Hyrule then I'd definitely feel better about going after you.

[Russtifinko]

MM, thoughts since you're here? On me, Dom, or anyone else?

My thoughts on you haven't changed. I'm gonna continue pestering you too until you post that case you've been talking about.

Dom hasn't pinged me as a baddie. Even his shenanigans from the first 2-3 days, I'm leaving alone. I know he was quite frustrated about how the Dr. Who game turned out (as was I); I was his BTSC partner, so got to witness firsthand and behind the scences. I think he's just trying something different here.

I'm holding off on judgment of llama right now, but I trust him.

Fingers I'm pretty certain is civ.

Made I am in the middle. This is standard Made behavior.

I thought zeek might be a quiet baddie partner, but that idea was shot to pieces.

Fair enough about Dom. As you can see from the bit of my post I left off, the case on you isn't coming. So no pestering, please. Also, I agree with you on fingers. And trusting llama =/= holding off judgement on him. :P

If you are both certain that I am a civvie, you wouldn't mind giving me the triforce then.

Actually, I wouldn't at all. If we can figure out how, I'm down.

wth? Put down the crack pipe, get some fresh air.

I seriously am not sure what you or Made are doing. At least he's been uber-helpful puzzle-wise. Although maybe it's a double bluff, like I couldn't be Hyrule because I'm so helpful and wouldn't my team tell me to shut up...but then maybe that's what we're supposed to think? But he's not on the poll so a discussion for another day as is Snow. I'm going to bed soon and this post isn't coming obviously because you've changed your mind. Again.

I'm starting to think maybe you're trying to take the heat because maybe you have some power that allows you to survive a lynch or appear Ganon. And I'm getting a very iffy feeling about your massive post against FS and then reversal. And that after I made a comment about how much she posts when she says she doesn't have time then she's not posting so much. If my spidey senses are in any way right I'm going to vote her today because I'm not at all sure I'd trust whatever a lynch on you would say. It doesn't look good that she will be lynched but if she is and she's Hyrule then I'd definitely feel better about going after you.

Like I said, crack pipe permanently down, now.

And HEY! I've been very helpful puzzle-wise. I resent that you think otherwise.

[fingersplints]

Liz, tell me when I posted after I said I wasn't going to be posting a lot. I said I wasn't going to be able to post later around end night time (when I assumed a contest for triforce might be) and then I wasn't around then. How the fuck is that suspicious?

[fingersplints]

these are the posts:

I looked up. I'm not scared to die, but not sure how around I will be and I don't want the triforce to just go to anyone. Seems weird you want just me in there.

This isn't a puzzle. It's a fight to the death.

Is there any way you can answer if this will this be a time-sensitive fight to the death? I'm a bit concerned about agreeing to this, and then not being there for whenever what it is will take place.

I'm wondering how long the fight will take too. I know you probably won't answer all these things I'm curious, but I shouldn't probably agree to it. I have work all day tomorrow and then have to go to the hospital again right after.

I specifically was CLEARLY saying I might not be around for when the event might take place, which is why I specifically asked if it was time sensitive.

I do not know LizKeen, but she seems to saying I am "making up" not being around. I already mentioned in this thread that my brother in law is in the hospital. I wouldn't make up having to visit a family member in the hospital for any game.

[Mister Rearranger]

My instinct is to trust Made's alignment this game, even if I don't agree with everything he's saying lol

no

Ya rly

[LizKeen]

Russ I wasn't trying to offend you, Made just sticks in my mind more because of the kukuro puzzle and how he kept posting yesterday about whether people should or shouldn't be going for the triforce.

FS, I wasn't accusing you of lying when you weren't around it was more that I had it in my head that there was a day you said you wouldn't be around and then it seemed like you kept popping up like someone was cluing you in you needed to post but I've gone back through the first 20 pages and I can't find the particular time that was. I will look back tomorrow when I'm on my computer. Trying to search on the phone is a nuisance. If I'm wrong I will admit it, there's nothing to gain by lying. And I hope your brother-in-law feels better.

I REALLY have to go to bed now. (I'll need my rest for when Russ makes an epic post about how bad someone is and then decides they're good 20 minutes later).