Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[falcon45ca]

We are 9 hours from eod and once again 23 players and these are our "wagons":

Cape90 (2)
Creature (2) [Strawhenge vote does not count]
Le petit (2)
Sabiplz (2)

This game state is shitty. There is no consensus or anything.

Adding Chelsea (2)

I would like some actual dynamic wagons yall. Wake up

Do you think any of those five options have legs for bandwagons? MAYBE Creature, but I don't think there is a lot there, to be honest.

I agree with you though. For a game that's gone on for 27 pages thus far, the game feels stuck in limbo in regards to making much progress. Then again, I guess it's still D1.

Hm don't love this empty commentary from floyd. Just kinda summarizing the game state. What are YOUR preferences? What do you FEEL?

No doubt. Empty commentary on game state...what is Floyd doing to change that? We create the game state, focusing on the game being in "limbo" keeps the game in limbo.


Plus, wtf? Where is the idea we are in limbo coming from? I've seen Sabi talk about it, but that just feels like Sabi.

[DeeZees]

So Sabi now you are here.

why did you scum read me and why did you hide it

When did I hide it? I wanted you to come back to the thread and see if your posts improved or not so I can reeval. Guess what it didn't so hence why I expained

I literally explain to risiinq why you are in your scum meta.

You are Extremely polarizing (to me) and the fact that you haven't town told once this D1 is why I think you're outted.

What do you consider town telling?

[Sabiplz]

Every time you rand scum you do the afk thing a lot during day one because you feel uncomfortable and unable to post.

When you're town you tend to thread camp.

When you're scum you tend to omgus and flail with your reads.

When you're town you tend to avoid that train of thought.

[IBA]

Why are we still discussing the drunk or Not drunk thing.

How is that moving the game forward? How is it alignment related

Do you think town would pretend to be drunk while not actually being drunk?

How is any of this alignment related?

Move on.

Jesus christ.

Okay so, is that a yes?

[nutella]

me voice: When i open the thread this time will i be struck with the perfect solve finally? will i finally be able to latch onto a wolfread?

the answer for the audience was a big fat no

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine



Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE

..what?

[Sabiplz]

So Sabi now you are here.

why did you scum read me and why did you hide it

When did I hide it? I wanted you to come back to the thread and see if your posts improved or not so I can reeval. Guess what it didn't so hence why I expained

I literally explain to risiinq why you are in your scum meta.

You are Extremely polarizing (to me) and the fact that you haven't town told once this D1 is why I think you're outted.

What do you consider town telling?

You have tells esp when you are explaining your reads and opinions that is completely missing from your iso this game. That's why I think you're outted.

[Sabiplz]

@DeeZees remember I was the only one to tr you start of the mash game because I know both your forum and mash meta.

[falcon45ca]

me voice: When i open the thread this time will i be struck with the perfect solve finally? will i finally be able to latch onto a wolfread?

the answer for the audience was a big fat no

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine



Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE

..what?

...who?

[Le petit poussin]

OK Iawy pushing LHFs with walls after posting his D1 suck. Cape/Iawy ww sheeping DZs falcon case.

Oh hey a read you could have joined the rest of us in making like 24 hours ago. We have cookies

Well, real life happens. I do like cookies though.

What's your read on HK?

[IBA]

Hi was alr reading and i just realized i could quote so should i do my reads like this ->

Sabi -> p#15 sr, only a scum would rickroll /hj.

or just mass quote, asking cuz i will end up with a huge post anyways since i have 24 pages of stuff to react to lmao.

My flavor is rickroll unfortunately.

@Marmot hates me

It’s probably a terrible idea for people to share their songs

Considering it's NAI, I don't think it's the worst idea
I don't really know that it's pro-town, for that matter, unless it helps us get inside their heads
But I don't think it's blatantly anti-town

I think it’s highly likely to have mechanical relevance to scum

[nutella]

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

Mmmm no it is you who are out of touch

Please tell me how I'm wrong on DZ because you haven't explained why you sr me and I'm getting bored of you doing so because this is mash all over again where I was town.

Like

DZ has given more, and more fleshed-out, reads than you have

Thats all

[Manny]

Sabi -> Tr on this mostly because mindmeld im not getting townie vibes at all from dz

Post to test if i figured out how to hyperlink currently reading when i finish ill post updated reads once more and then turn to liveposting till eod.

[IBA]

Why are we still discussing the drunk or Not drunk thing.

How is that moving the game forward? How is it alignment related

Do you think town would pretend to be drunk while not actually being drunk?

you don't have to do this..........

Also not an answer

[nutella]

me voice: When i open the thread this time will i be struck with the perfect solve finally? will i finally be able to latch onto a wolfread?

the answer for the audience was a big fat no

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine



Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE

..what?

...who?

literally what does your post mean

shes town but poe??

[DeeZees]

Every time you rand scum you do the afk thing a lot during day one because you feel uncomfortable and unable to post.

When you're town you tend to thread camp.

When you're scum you tend to omgus and flail with your reads.

When you're town you tend to avoid that train of thought.

I've been busy so no. Also I dont think thats true. if you are basing it on recent games you will definitely struggle because I've randed wolf alot, and been busy, alot. So any meta on recent games won't work!!!

here's a game where I max posted d1 as wolf:

We won!

(Im doggod)



And when I'm town I scum read people town reading me alot.

Here's one!

[DeeZees]

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

Mmmm no it is you who are out of touch

Please tell me how I'm wrong on DZ because you haven't explained why you sr me and I'm getting bored of you doing so because this is mash all over again where I was town.

Like

DZ has given more, and more fleshed-out, reads than you have

Thats all

hollaaaaa

[nutella]

OK Iawy pushing LHFs with walls after posting his D1 suck. Cape/Iawy ww sheeping DZs falcon case.

Oh hey a read you could have joined the rest of us in making like 24 hours ago. We have cookies

Well, real life happens. I do like cookies though.

What's your read on HK?

HK is in a super weird spot for me. He's had moments I thought were towny, and moments I thought weren't. I don't have a good handle on his POV of the game and I think he could really go either way. Need more data

[falcon45ca]

me voice: When i open the thread this time will i be struck with the perfect solve finally? will i finally be able to latch onto a wolfread?

the answer for the audience was a big fat no

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine



Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE

..what?

...who?

literally what does your post mean

shes town but poe??

I just mean Town as in we are all "town"...players would be more accurate term



Players who are waiting blah blah POE

[nutella]

I'm sorry I just do not get and will never get the DZ scumreads

Maybe I'm wrong but he just radiates town

Sabi is stuck on this one thing that doesnt feel backed up at all to me

[DeeZees]

@DeeZees remember I was the only one to tr you start of the mash game because I know both your forum and mash meta.

yah but you are wrong here. I think your approach to me and game has been wolfy.

I think your trying to hid that middling reasonable position (on everyone but me)

I now think that you are basing a scum read on circumstantial information not realising that during week im by a computer, in the weekend I'm always away from a screen.

[nutella]

me voice: When i open the thread this time will i be struck with the perfect solve finally? will i finally be able to latch onto a wolfread?

the answer for the audience was a big fat no

[VOTE: valentine] aubergine



Town who are waiting for the perfect solve, or the right moment, are POE

..what?

...who?

literally what does your post mean

shes town but poe??

I just mean Town as in we are all "town"...players would be more accurate term



Players who are waiting blah blah POE

The all of us are town thing has been tried, wasn't popular :P

[DeeZees]

OK Iawy pushing LHFs with walls after posting his D1 suck. Cape/Iawy ww sheeping DZs falcon case.

Oh hey a read you could have joined the rest of us in making like 24 hours ago. We have cookies

Well, real life happens. I do like cookies though.

What's your read on HK?

HK is in a super weird spot for me. He's had moments I thought were towny, and moments I thought weren't. I don't have a good handle on his POV of the game and I think he could really go either way. Need more data

he's in my immediate POE.

Will go read his ISO but he's been pingier than normal

[Sabiplz]

can you elaborate on such "dz wolf signs" first?

sorry for replying to a question with question, but it's necessary for my pov ig

OK multi quoting atm sucks on my phone if I keep getting logged off.

Anyway:
His rvs was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. He was flailing and throwing out half ass town read towards Nutella and weird pushes on players for reasons he then tr others on.

He has no real direction to go towards. He was pushing on Rask early and since Rask dropped off he didn't continue to push there. His omgus on me. He doesn't have a solid grasp of the game and game state.

His posting just feel devoid of any passion or solving. He feels like he's dragging himself. He was gone for 24hours and had nothing to say about what happened in the game. Just isoed two players and washed his hands of the game.

Lack of engaging with others.

Mmmm no it is you who are out of touch

Please tell me how I'm wrong on DZ because you haven't explained why you sr me and I'm getting bored of you doing so because this is mash all over again where I was town.

Like

DZ has given more, and more fleshed-out, reads than you have

Thats all

Citations please because I have nit picked his iso.

And my a lot of thoughts on players and its been fleshed out enough for a low info D1. Sorry I don't have tmi to make it flowery.

[nutella]

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

Yeah idk his response to my big post felt marginally better but nothing else has convinced me he's town. His engagement is limited and not in a detached towny way, more in a timid way. I trust the two people voting there as well.

[Sabiplz]

I'm sorry I just do not get and will never get the DZ scumreads

Maybe I'm wrong but he just radiates town

Sabi is stuck on this one thing that doesnt feel backed up at all to me

How the fuck is my read that backed up

I'm just like confused on your pov.

You spent 5000 words hedging on cape in that wall post with nothing of note from it but I'm the one who is not giving fleshed out reads.

Mk next time I will make a 5000 word wall postm

[nutella]

Don't mind the Petit wagon either, I kind of keep forgetting he's even in the game because he's made close to zero memorable contributions and has just now tried to "how do you do fellow kids" himself into solving

[DeeZees]

On my scum reads and reading iso's:

The two iso's I read where quas and schia

I did them both because
(a) risinq defended quas when I scum read him.
(b) my reads on quad depended on verifying his take on schia

I think I said this but if you look directly at how me n snow talked it'll come out Im p sure.
So anyway, they are the only iso's I read.
I made my scum reads by just may takes on thread. like I said!

[falcon45ca]

OK Iawy pushing LHFs with walls after posting his D1 suck. Cape/Iawy ww sheeping DZs falcon case.

Oh hey a read you could have joined the rest of us in making like 24 hours ago. We have cookies

Well, real life happens. I do like cookies though.

What's your read on HK?

HK is in a super weird spot for me. He's had moments I thought were towny, and moments I thought weren't. I don't have a good handle on his POV of the game and I think he could really go either way. Need more data

he's in my immediate POE.

Will go read his ISO but he's been pingier than normal

He's your immediate POE, but you have to ISO him?



There must be something off the top of your head that pinged you

[Sabiplz]

@DeeZees remember I was the only one to tr you start of the mash game because I know both your forum and mash meta.

yah but you are wrong here. I think your approach to me and game has been wolfy.

I think your trying to hid that middling reasonable position (on everyone but me)

I now think that you are basing a scum read on circumstantial information not realising that during week im by a computer, in the weekend I'm always away from a screen.

How the fuck is my approach to you have been wolfy?

Why would I ask everyone to shut up about your drunk conversation and not just sit in the shadows or flame it more if I wanted to push your miselim?

I am honestly trying to find you if you're town but you haven't given me anything.

I have found you in every town game of yours, haven't I?

You're different this game.

[nutella]

well, I should have used spoilers.

take aways:
(a) The push on schia is concerted. It seems focused on a bad entry of awkwardness
(b) He bashes and takes pot shots at people defending schia
(c) BUT he never votes her
(d) he looks back once with cape when schia does something he likes.

I think a, b and are all quite towny. Believing a push *that was convincing* is a good look. Bashin ppl who attack your push is also towny because well as wolf I always try n be more balanced with ppl to look more like im solving off my push, and, bashing people is so brazen. d is good because it shows he's actually thinking about the read.
c is bad because it implies he doesn't believe in read- votes are one of best ways of pushing your scum reads!




Separately, that is his real push. he has some drive by town reads and light "you are wolfy" esque posts.

He's definitely in my POE, can see lots of wolf persona's here, but, dont scum read him as much as others AND I now wanna go check out schia

@Sabiplz here is 1 citation, this post alone is more solving than you have done in 175 posts and he has other posts like this

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: cape] aubergine

[DeeZees]

OK Iawy pushing LHFs with walls after posting his D1 suck. Cape/Iawy ww sheeping DZs falcon case.

Oh hey a read you could have joined the rest of us in making like 24 hours ago. We have cookies

Well, real life happens. I do like cookies though.

What's your read on HK?

HK is in a super weird spot for me. He's had moments I thought were towny, and moments I thought weren't. I don't have a good handle on his POV of the game and I think he could really go either way. Need more data

he's in my immediate POE.

Will go read his ISO but he's been pingier than normal

He's your immediate POE, but you have to ISO him?



There must be something off the top of your head that pinged you

He's your immediate POE, but you have to ISO him?


Yes.

There must be something off the top of your head that pinged you


some parts of his reads seemed disagreeable and like falsified reasoning

but that was pings as I read I haven't gone and checked



Why do you find this abnormal?

[nutella]

I'm giving sabi space because I currently think they actually believe this but I'm concerned that they aren't trying to see it differently

[WindwardAway]

Hi was alr reading and i just realized i could quote so should i do my reads like this ->

Sabi -> p#15 sr, only a scum would rickroll /hj.

or just mass quote, asking cuz i will end up with a huge post anyways since i have 24 pages of stuff to react to lmao.

My flavor is rickroll unfortunately.

@Marmot hates me

It’s probably a terrible idea for people to share their songs

Considering it's NAI, I don't think it's the worst idea
I don't really know that it's pro-town, for that matter, unless it helps us get inside their heads
But I don't think it's blatantly anti-town

I think it’s highly likely to have mechanical relevance to scum

Then do you care to explain why the OP encourages us to claim or refer to our songs?

[falcon45ca]

OK Iawy pushing LHFs with walls after posting his D1 suck. Cape/Iawy ww sheeping DZs falcon case.

Oh hey a read you could have joined the rest of us in making like 24 hours ago. We have cookies

Well, real life happens. I do like cookies though.

What's your read on HK?

HK is in a super weird spot for me. He's had moments I thought were towny, and moments I thought weren't. I don't have a good handle on his POV of the game and I think he could really go either way. Need more data

he's in my immediate POE.

Will go read his ISO but he's been pingier than normal

He's your immediate POE, but you have to ISO him?



There must be something off the top of your head that pinged you

He's your immediate POE, but you have to ISO him?


Yes.

There must be something off the top of your head that pinged you


some parts of his reads seemed disagreeable and like falsified reasoning

but that was pings as I read I haven't gone and checked



Why do you find this abnormal?

Because of the way my brain works

[Manny]

risiinq -> p#1118 why petit and iba.

DaughterOfOmega -> p#1121 funnily enough this is one of the few people to which that could apply.

Chelsea -> p#1181 why is the setting making you less lurky?.

Dz -> p#1214 sr based on not agreeing on anything. p#1259 sr

Sabi -> Tr on this mostly because mindmeld im not getting townie vibes at all from dz
Absolutely based.

Guillotine -> I dont make my reads on day 1 taking into account who is scum with who since i just have way too many people i sr or scumlean rn to efficiently do so, i just place everyone i read and didnt like and ill start considering who is w with w after someone flips
This is kinda bordering on being too scummy to actually be scum but since i could go around my head in circles eternally deciding which it is imma just sr again.

Winds -> I dont agree with the creature read but the Le Petit read is kinda based so i think i tr this?. Atleast maybe not w/w with.

Falcon -> Sr based on the fact that he is voteing someone who he himself prefaces as town lol.

@Manny you said you disagreed with Strawhenge's reads. Which in particular did you disagree with and why?

this after that one i kinda didnt bother reading much from from my past self

[Sabiplz]

well, I should have used spoilers.

take aways:
(a) The push on schia is concerted. It seems focused on a bad entry of awkwardness
(b) He bashes and takes pot shots at people defending schia
(c) BUT he never votes her
(d) he looks back once with cape when schia does something he likes.

I think a, b and are all quite towny. Believing a push *that was convincing* is a good look. Bashin ppl who attack your push is also towny because well as wolf I always try n be more balanced with ppl to look more like im solving off my push, and, bashing people is so brazen. d is good because it shows he's actually thinking about the read.
c is bad because it implies he doesn't believe in read- votes are one of best ways of pushing your scum reads!




Separately, that is his real push. he has some drive by town reads and light "you are wolfy" esque posts.

He's definitely in my POE, can see lots of wolf persona's here, but, dont scum read him as much as others AND I now wanna go check out schia

@Sabiplz here is 1 citation, this post alone is more solving than you have done in 175 posts and he has other posts like this

I don't make reads or cases like that esp day one.

You can literally look at my past games on here Nutella. Asmr/kids birthday are my last two town Rands and mafia Misplay/hot fuzz are my mafia Rands.

Realize this is how I play.

[nutella]

Hi was alr reading and i just realized i could quote so should i do my reads like this ->

Sabi -> p#15 sr, only a scum would rickroll /hj.

or just mass quote, asking cuz i will end up with a huge post anyways since i have 24 pages of stuff to react to lmao.

My flavor is rickroll unfortunately.

@Marmot hates me

It’s probably a terrible idea for people to share their songs

Considering it's NAI, I don't think it's the worst idea
I don't really know that it's pro-town, for that matter, unless it helps us get inside their heads
But I don't think it's blatantly anti-town

I think it’s highly likely to have mechanical relevance to scum

Then do you care to explain why the OP encourages us to claim or refer to our songs?

Probably to help Colin's role, which he has canceled out by claiming

[Manny]

Im down to wagon any of -> DaughterOfOmega, Falcon, Schia, Dz or Guillotine.
For now ill just sheep my read/sabi and vote dz.

[Mungbean]

#Drunkgate feels like a fruitless line of inquiry. Sabi looks good for trying to shut it down in general.

I have a clutch of players I feel good-ish about but nobody is pinging my scumdar exactly. Seems like a lot of the votes are quite omgussy.

[nutella]

well, I should have used spoilers.

take aways:
(a) The push on schia is concerted. It seems focused on a bad entry of awkwardness
(b) He bashes and takes pot shots at people defending schia
(c) BUT he never votes her
(d) he looks back once with cape when schia does something he likes.

I think a, b and are all quite towny. Believing a push *that was convincing* is a good look. Bashin ppl who attack your push is also towny because well as wolf I always try n be more balanced with ppl to look more like im solving off my push, and, bashing people is so brazen. d is good because it shows he's actually thinking about the read.
c is bad because it implies he doesn't believe in read- votes are one of best ways of pushing your scum reads!




Separately, that is his real push. he has some drive by town reads and light "you are wolfy" esque posts.

He's definitely in my POE, can see lots of wolf persona's here, but, dont scum read him as much as others AND I now wanna go check out schia

@Sabiplz here is 1 citation, this post alone is more solving than you have done in 175 posts and he has other posts like this

I don't make reads or cases like that esp day one.

You can literally look at my past games on here Nutella. Asmr/kids birthday are my last two town Rands and mafia Misplay/hot fuzz are my mafia Rands.

Realize this is how I play.

My point is not so much about your playstyle (which I sympathize with) but more that DZ has done more than you seem to be acknowledging

[Sabiplz]

Im down to wagon any of -> DaughterOfOmega, Falcon, Schia, Dz or Guillotine.
For now ill just sheep my read/sabi and vote dz.

Why me?

[Schiavetto]

Why are we still discussing the drunk or Not drunk thing.

How is that moving the game forward? How is it alignment related

Do you think town would pretend to be drunk while not actually being drunk?

you don't have to do this..........

Also not an answer

[Schiavetto]

either the most committed wolftroll or Just Town

[nutella]

Im down to wagon any of -> DaughterOfOmega, Falcon, Schia, Dz or Guillotine.
For now ill just sheep my read/sabi and vote dz.

sad when a townread srs a bunch of my other townreads

[Manny]

Because i think you are town and i agree on Dz not being town?. Weird question ask, last time i played with Dz i saw him hella town while everyone else sr'd him now i just dont see him townie at all which makes me think he isnt.

[DeeZees]

@DeeZees remember I was the only one to tr you start of the mash game because I know both your forum and mash meta.

yah but you are wrong here. I think your approach to me and game has been wolfy.

I think your trying to hid that middling reasonable position (on everyone but me)

I now think that you are basing a scum read on circumstantial information not realising that during week im by a computer, in the weekend I'm always away from a screen.

How the fuck is my approach to you have been wolfy?

Why would I ask everyone to shut up about your drunk conversation and not just sit in the shadows or flame it more if I wanted to push your miselim?

I am honestly trying to find you if you're town but you haven't given me anything.

I have found you in every town game of yours, haven't I?

You're different this game.

Checking game histories (not counting turbos where its obv different) we have:
- The mash recently I was town and you found me woo
- In lYoung Justice I couldn't really tell but once I flipped you said you sr'd me when I was town
- The scum game I was DogGod
- Mashanni where i was scum

doesn't seem enough tbh am I missing some?

and its wolfy because its taking circumstantial evidence and acting like its a scum tell.
the telling ppl to stop talking about drunk stuff is newer, and yh, thats quite good. but its one circumstantial read your arguing against whilst pushing another one ignoring the fact im busy, claiming im busy, and it being the weekend, where its believable to be busy.

[Le petit poussin]

either the most committed wolftroll or Just Town

Just town

[WindwardAway]

I'm not convinced on the case against DZ, nor on the case against Sabi, and I'm not sure why I don't feel convinced on either. I feel like I should be finding one of them scummy by now? But I'm not, and it's bothering me.

Anyway, off to a concert for the night, catch ya later (or maybe not before EoD), my vote is gonna stay on Cape.

[DeeZees]

Because i think you are town and i agree on Dz not being town?. Weird question ask, last time i played with Dz i saw him hella town while everyone else sr'd him now i just dont see him townie at all which makes me think he isnt.

Why not?

What do you find wolfy?

Bear in mind the other time we played you were wrong on me too