Anniversary Game 2 - Moozik [MAFIA WIN]

[DaughterOfOmega]

New tinfoil:
DOOM lied about their role and actually did that so we post more and actually is a back up, backing up guillo's role

So I'm a backup who claimed low post killer.

Who then has killed the two low posters?

That would need to exist elsewhere

I've seen you sow seeds of doubt and mafia logic so far today

What if you’re just making up that restriction? Hard to see why town has this role

Although it also seems. Dumb? Like now the game is Egyptian Ratscrew to not be the lowest count

Why would I as mafia use my two kp killing the least active/meaningful town?

The world wonders

[Inawordyes]

Can someone else read Mungbean's ISO and tell me I'm wrong for walking away thinking that something is extremely off about it?

[DeeZees]

Strongly Town
DeeZees
LordQuas
IBA
falcon45ca
Valentine
risiinq-

Town lean
Chelsea
Manny
WindwardAway
Mungbean
Schiavetto
Sabiplz

Conflicted
Cape90
Creature
DaughterOfOmega
pyxxy

3p and/or wolf lean
ColinIsCool
Guillotine
Inawordyes
Le petit poussin (Raskolnikov)
TheFloyd73

pulling up

[DaughterOfOmega]

Honestly a lot of upside to killing Daughter even if she is town

Like mainly in reducing the amount of reading I have to do

This comes from a mafia

They aren't even aware of the fact I'm one of the lowest posters in all of mafia

[risiinq-]

so how did creature die?? and was the role he flipped his original role???

[DeeZees]

so how did creature die?? and was the role he flipped his original role???

someone has his role or alignment I think thats guaranteed

[DaughterOfOmega]

INAWY is clearly scum

DZ and IBA are possible

idc about the rest

[WindwardAway]

New tinfoil:
DOOM lied about their role and actually did that so we post more and actually is a back up, backing up guillo's role

So I'm a backup who claimed low post killer.

Who then has killed the two low posters?

That would need to exist elsewhere

I've seen you sow seeds of doubt and mafia logic so far today

What if you’re just making up that restriction? Hard to see why town has this role

Although it also seems. Dumb? Like now the game is Egyptian Ratscrew to not be the lowest count

Why would I as mafia use my two kp killing the least active/meaningful town?

The world wonders

I thought you were claiming that it's a passive and not something you choose to do

[risiinq-]

ok so that means there's another 3p besides colllin?

[Inawordyes]

so how did creature die?? and was the role he flipped his original role???

According to the flip, the 3P chooses a player D1 and that player dies and the 3P inherits their role and alignment. So Creature was not the 3P, Creature was the player that the 3P player chose, so that player is no longer the 3P they started the game as and instead whatever Creature's role and alignment were

[ColinIsCool]

I believe Colin's claim
And I'm sorry for the complete mixup, I'm gonna have to keep backreading to figure out why I thought someone claimed a role thief

No need to apologize. You probably saw nutella speculating as much here?

[DaughterOfOmega]

New tinfoil:
DOOM lied about their role and actually did that so we post more and actually is a back up, backing up guillo's role

So I'm a backup who claimed low post killer.

Who then has killed the two low posters?

That would need to exist elsewhere

I've seen you sow seeds of doubt and mafia logic so far today

What if you’re just making up that restriction? Hard to see why town has this role

Although it also seems. Dumb? Like now the game is Egyptian Ratscrew to not be the lowest count

Why would I as mafia use my two kp killing the least active/meaningful town?

The world wonders

I thought you were claiming that it's a passive and not something you choose to do

You do realize I am responding to someone saying my claim is a lie, meaning that I would be choosing to kill the afks

[DeeZees]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

[WindwardAway]

INAWY is clearly scum

DZ and IBA are possible

idc about the rest

No idea about IAWY cause I need to read through his posts
IBA I thought seemed OK after I questioned them for a bit, could reevaluate though
DZ I really don't think is scum

[Inawordyes]

INAWY is clearly scum

DZ and IBA are possible

idc about the rest

I am clearly not and you will watch your tongue

[risiinq-]

iawy i think is scum too, yrea

[WindwardAway]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

[ColinIsCool]

ok so that means there's another 3p besides colllin?

I lol'd

[DeeZees]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

[Inawordyes]

iawy i think is scum too, yrea

then vote me

[ColinIsCool]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

Correct.

[WindwardAway]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

[DeeZees]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

[ColinIsCool]

The neighborhood is for days but I got to be in it with Chelsea during N2 because d2 was skipped. I'm currently in the same neighborhood.

Also, while we're on the subject, if anybody wants to tell me their role next day phase ... let a brother know

[WindwardAway]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

[Inawordyes]

Can someone else read Mungbean's ISO and tell me I'm wrong for walking away thinking that something is extremely off about it?

requoting for visibility

[ColinIsCool]

Anyway, [VOTE: sabi] aubergine total malarkey cooked up overnight in scumchat to make me look bad, sheesh

[ColinIsCool]

Can someone else read Mungbean's ISO and tell me I'm wrong for walking away thinking that something is extremely off about it?

requoting for visibility

Mungbean has seemed blendy.

[DeeZees]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

no you didnt. fuck it, might be stupid im always bad at mech playing and im confused blame me if this goes wrong just seems right to out this now?

I watched who visited nut.

it was you, Nutella, Colin, and two more. One of you killed her. I think Nutella targetted herself, so all actions targetted her(?) seems weird can't work out why she'd do that.

I think the holes in Colin's story are:
- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion

I think you are town Windy. I dunno on the other two and gunna keep it to myself

[Inawordyes]

Specifically, I don't like the fact that Mung was very focused on targeting Creature, especially when Creature was up against Guillo. Defending Guillo while also townreading people voting on Guillo is a weird look if not scummy, and I don't like how Mung randomly threw out a scumread on Val was stated to be because Muing didn't like how Val voted for Creature. When you're scumreading a player, scumreading another player out of the blue for also scumreading them is just weird

There's just a whole bunch of weird and I don't know if it's fully scummy but something feels very off and I don't like it

[DaughterOfOmega]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

If you got redirected off Nutella they wouldn't have died

It's more likely you were the one redirected

[WindwardAway]

Anyway, [VOTE: sabi] aubergine total malarkey cooked up overnight in scumchat to make me look bad, sheesh

I veto this
I think Sabi is spewed clear by their Guillo push

[DeeZees]

So to get to bottom:

What results did you get windy, and why do you think you were redirected? If you were redirected, then, so was Colin and he should have a hood.

If you weren't then ...bad.

[WindwardAway]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

If you got redirected off Nutella they wouldn't have died

It's more likely you were the one redirected

No, nutella's role says that all actions targeting her EXCEPT the mafia kill will be redirected off of her

So there couldn't have been any protection on her

[DeeZees]

Windy I'd appreciate speedy resolution because you seemed pretty sure you got redirected just now

[ColinIsCool]

- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion

What if she saw it less as giving away good night actions and bouncing off bad ones? Then it makes perfect sense why you would target someone you scumread.

[Inawordyes]

This is entirely too many posts for this thread to have at this point

How many were you expecting?

idk a couple hundred? Nothing has happened and it hasn't even been 24 hours, there's no reason for the average post per player to be in the double digits at this point

This struck me as an almost comically anti-town sentiment.

This feels like TMI'ing v!IBA in a w!Mung world

[ColinIsCool]

*more as bouncing off bad ones

[DeeZees]

- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion

What if she saw it less as giving away good night actions and bouncing off bad ones? Then it makes perfect sense why you would target someone you scumread.

She town read Chelsea though.

[DeeZees]

I got that bit wrong sorry!!!

[ColinIsCool]

Anyway, [VOTE: sabi] aubergine total malarkey cooked up overnight in scumchat to make me look bad, sheesh

I veto this
I think Sabi is spewed clear by their Guillo push

This may be true, but I don't remember anything about who was pushing Guillotine when, so ...

[Inawordyes]

And for anybody who wants to be like "oh there's Iawy pushing lhf's again" like it's a negative - I'm gonna try to go through everybody's ISOs, I'm starting at the bottom with the lowest posters though since it's easier to read through, so Mung is first up as the lowest living poster. I'm not singling him out, he's just the first person I've read and I already have questions

Preemptive defenses are ehhh, but this was a talking point against me on D1 so I'm getting ahead of the anticipation that it's gonna come up again because it always does

[DeeZees]

So to get to bottom:

What results did you get windy, and why do you think you were redirected? If you were redirected, then, so was Colin and he should have a hood.

If you weren't then ...bad.

@WindwardAway why do you think you were redirected?

Because I know that you targetted Nut. Colin is claiming too too

If you were redirected Colin should have a hood

If they dont they are just scum.

If the do...then you two are clear and I probs out some other ppl

[DeeZees]

Not a huge fan of windward leaving

[WindwardAway]

oh sick Colin did you get a hood with nut last night ?

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

no you didnt. fuck it, might be stupid im always bad at mech playing and im confused blame me if this goes wrong just seems right to out this now?

I watched who visited nut.

it was you, Nutella, Colin, and two more. One of you killed her. I think Nutella targetted herself, so all actions targetted her(?) seems weird can't work out why she'd do that.

I think the holes in Colin's story are:
- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion

I think you are town Windy. I dunno on the other two and gunna keep it to myself

I didn't want you to claim your role
I have information that fills in all the gaps in your knowledge and I didn't want to claim either, but now I have to because its better to give info

Last night, I saw a watcher (you), a neighborizer (probably Colin which is why I believe him), a vote-silencer (so I think Chelsea? cannot vote today), a nexus (this was nutella), a voyeur (myself), and a role I will not name because it is 100% town.

I saw NO KILL. I saw a kill action on N1 but none on N2 so I know I would've seen the kill if I had targeted nutella as planned. So I think she redirected all of us off herself and onto Chelsea, and the mafia kill went through on her.

[DeeZees]

I think if we catch 1 scum in my 4 targets the other 3 are guaranteed town/neutral (Colin's 3p) as am I which gives us a nice 4 person town core

Cuz I cant see wolves stacking actions on nutella in small game

[WindwardAway]

Thought he said he got redirected to Chelsea

n1, then we had n2.

Sometimes I get a hood even when they die

I think nutella redirected last night, too

why

Because I got redirected off nutella last night??

no you didnt. fuck it, might be stupid im always bad at mech playing and im confused blame me if this goes wrong just seems right to out this now?

I watched who visited nut.

it was you, Nutella, Colin, and two more. One of you killed her. I think Nutella targetted herself, so all actions targetted her(?) seems weird can't work out why she'd do that.

I think the holes in Colin's story are:
- If Colin is telling truth, Nutella targetted Chelsea n1, meaning she chose to target a player who she lightly scum read for what I assume are town friendly actions; e.g. the heal we anticipate went on Nutella, any watchers who might watch Nutella etc. I can't see why Nut would do this. seems stupid for many reasons and creates confusion

I think you are town Windy. I dunno on the other two and gunna keep it to myself

I didn't want you to claim your role
I have information that fills in all the gaps in your knowledge and I didn't want to claim either, but now I have to because its better to give info

Last night, I saw a watcher (you), a neighborizer (probably Colin which is why I believe him), a vote-silencer (so I think Chelsea? cannot vote today), a nexus (this was nutella), a voyeur (myself), and a role I will not name because it is 100% town.

I saw NO KILL. I saw a kill action on N1 but none on N2 so I know I would've seen the kill if I had targeted nutella as planned. So I think she redirected all of us off herself and onto Chelsea, and the mafia kill went through on her.

Also
There were no protectives on nutella

[DeeZees]

believe windward

[WindwardAway]

I've just sentenced myself to death, fuck

[DeeZees]

I've just sentenced myself to death, fuck

no im watcher so confirmed town

what you mean about n1 you saw kill?