Anniversary Game 3 - Cindy Kate Meet Up [GAME OVER - TOWN WIN]

[dyachei]

how do you know your wolf reads are accurate cham? I haven't seen any of those players flip

Well there's a simple way to fix that now ain't there!

porscha more likely to flip wolf lets flip her first

[MacDougall]

I was planning on getting into Fate Stay/Night anyway so i'm not sure how this is a punishment.

[ilario]

i literalyl did the same thing to koba in the last game. i defended koba the entire game but after 4 days of people forcing their reads onto me telling me im misreading koba i eventually gave in and said i would re-consider their alignment.

[Alison]

Santy is now naked town. The way he is paranoid of ilario right now is blindingly townie.

Alright Mac let's make a bet, if I flip green and we go to DVC together, the one who is right about Santy's alignment gets to make the other one watch a movie of their choice and give a review. I'm gonna make you watch Heaven's Feel 1 if I win.

On the condition that you aren't a cop with a held check deal.

Nah I wouldn't lie about my role atp. I really am VT since Nook "blocked" me last night by voting me.

[Alison]

I was planning on getting into Fate Stay/Night anyway so i'm not sure how this is a punishment.

If you're planning to do it fr I'll give you a proper watch order.

And it's not meant to be a punishment lol it's a small game for fun

[santygrass]

i literalyl did the same thing to koba in the last game. i defended koba the entire game but after 4 days of people forcing their reads onto me telling me im misreading koba i eventually gave in and said i would re-consider their alignment.

You think I have been dominating the days to make that read hold weight tho?

I understand your point in a vaccuum, but I dont think it holds up. Specially because you arent even reading Alison case or try to discuss it, when it should concern you more because you had a confident read on me right?

[Alison]

i literalyl did the same thing to koba in the last game. i defended koba the entire game but after 4 days of people forcing their reads onto me telling me im misreading koba i eventually gave in and said i would re-consider their alignment.

I felt sorry for Koba tbh. I know they ran it down but they have always seemed like the type of person to admit their mistakes so they probably did admit that they played it bad and feel humiliated by doing it in finale. In which case I feel sorry for them and wish them all the best.

[ilario]

1 You were strongly townreading me. You made a good case on why I was super obv town
2 I cased Alison. You read the arguments, you liked it


Then. You came back to thread and you have Alison pushing me and Mac screaming that Alison is misrepping me.

Why you arrive at the conclussion of doubting me if Alison flips town?

I think your read on me then doesnt hold uo as consistently as I thought it did.

Is it that hard to see?

I am 100% sure Alison is mafia here. But there is still time left today and you casing this doubt on me for free is unwaranteed, doesnt hold up to your read and could be benefitial for the wolf team

santy. lets live in your world for a second. lets say ur town. lets ur correct and alison is wolf. lets say im a wolf. why do i as a wolf, spend the entire game pocketing you, and then see alison become a top wagon, see thats she has a very high chance of dying given that mac is pushing her and then decide that im going to undo my entire pocket on you based on the entire premise that alison is town, when i know for a fact that she isnt? you are so convinced alison is mafia so why are u worried that im going to tinfoil you if she flips town when the possibility of her flipping town doesnt even exist when you are calling her 100% mafia?

[Chamomile]

how do you know your wolf reads are accurate cham? I haven't seen any of those players flip

Well there's a simple way to fix that now ain't there!

porscha more likely to flip wolf lets flip her first

porsha's gonna be solved through mech so that's objectively a bad play. scum pushing hard for porsha ever since Alison became a wagon (see Ilario's post trying to dissuade lily fro relying on mech to solve porsha)

!

[ilario]

i literalyl did the same thing to koba in the last game. i defended koba the entire game but after 4 days of people forcing their reads onto me telling me im misreading koba i eventually gave in and said i would re-consider their alignment.

You think I have been dominating the days to make that read hold weight tho?

I understand your point in a vaccuum, but I dont think it holds up. Specially because you arent even reading Alison case or try to discuss it, when it should concern you more because you had a confident read on me right?

im not reading it because im not upto it. hence why i said i will re-evaluate and part of that means that i will read the case and your points when i get to it.

[santygrass]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

[dyachei]

how do you know your wolf reads are accurate cham? I haven't seen any of those players flip

Well there's a simple way to fix that now ain't there!

porscha more likely to flip wolf lets flip her first

porsha's gonna be solved through mech so that's objectively a bad play. scum pushing hard for porsha ever since Alison became a wagon (see Ilario's post trying to dissuade lily fro relying on mech to solve porsha)

!

the person with mech said to vote her if she didnt post in 1.5 hrs nd its been past that time but thanks for playing

[ilario]

how do you know your wolf reads are accurate cham? I haven't seen any of those players flip

Well there's a simple way to fix that now ain't there!

porscha more likely to flip wolf lets flip her first

porsha's gonna be solved through mech so that's objectively a bad play. scum pushing hard for porsha ever since Alison became a wagon (see Ilario's post trying to dissuade lily fro relying on mech to solve porsha)

!

she doesnt need to be solved by mech. shes already outed as a wolf from her ghosting.

[Alison]

What about flipping the person who can't be solved via mech and who has made the most suspicious claim on planet earth

[ilario]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

so what ur saying is that im scummy in a v!alison world for trying to get the elimination off her onto the universally srd slot?

[ilario]

What about flipping the person who can't be solved via mech and who has made the most suspicious claim on planet earth

/vote belzy

[santygrass]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

so what ur saying is that im scummy in a v!alison world for trying to get the elimination off her onto the universally srd slot?

You are scummy in a W!alison world in where either
W!Porscha is a weaker role or is a busy Villa.

[santygrass]

I should've went to sleep smh.
I legit think this is one of the games in where I obvtowned more and I just want to be nked after the Alison flip

[ilario]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

so what ur saying is that im scummy in a v!alison world for trying to get the elimination off her onto the universally srd slot?

You are scummy in a W!alison world in where either
W!Porscha is a weaker role or is a busy Villa.

sure, i can see that. but why do i push doubt on you on the premise that alison is villa? shes will flip wolf and my entire case will be useless. how does that help my wolf agenda?

[santygrass]

Lily and Mac are always town never rescind fwiw. I think I dont have to explain why on Mac, but maybe later I'll do an effort with Lily.

Zzzzzzz

[ilario]

Santys town entitlement towards me could be towny here but it is frustrating at the same time because I feel like my point I’m making is very logical

[santygrass]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

so what ur saying is that im scummy in a v!alison world for trying to get the elimination off her onto the universally srd slot?

You are scummy in a W!alison world in where either
W!Porscha is a weaker role or is a busy Villa.

sure, i can see that. but why do i push doubt on you on the premise that alison is villa? shes will flip wolf and my entire case will be useless. how does that help my wolf agenda?

Because what matter is taking heat off Alison today.
Stating 'I might need to reevaluate santy in the future' helps that

[santygrass]

Even if its something you know its a blatant lie, its something that is stating like... A lowkey townread on Alison? Idk how to express it but it felt bad

[Chamomile]

how do you know your wolf reads are accurate cham? I haven't seen any of those players flip

Well there's a simple way to fix that now ain't there!

porscha more likely to flip wolf lets flip her first

porsha's gonna be solved through mech so that's objectively a bad play. scum pushing hard for porsha ever since Alison became a wagon (see Ilario's post trying to dissuade lily fro relying on mech to solve porsha)

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she doesnt need to be solved by mech. shes already outed as a wolf from her ghosting.

the ghosting will be resolved either way so voting there is entirely +scum EV.

!

[dyachei]

i'd prefer to vote out a wolf today, idk about you guys

[santygrass]

@Neon where is your head at rn btw? Dont fall off pls I still think you are town and need u in the thread

[ilario]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

so what ur saying is that im scummy in a v!alison world for trying to get the elimination off her onto the universally srd slot?

You are scummy in a W!alison world in where either
W!Porscha is a weaker role or is a busy Villa.

sure, i can see that. but why do i push doubt on you on the premise that alison is villa? shes will flip wolf and my entire case will be useless. how does that help my wolf agenda?

Because what matter is taking heat off Alison today.
Stating 'I might need to reevaluate santy in the future' helps that

Yeah okay I can see that, but again, of all the arguments I could pick to go after you I’d like to think as a wolf I would probably pick something much more reasonable. I don’t think it would be hard for me to make up a case against you in the world where I’m wolf and ur town

[santygrass]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

[ilario]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

cool. so whats ur read on betty?

[dyachei]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I feel invisible this game lol

i feel like you've been talked to and about a lot tbh

I've been talked about a lot yeah. But unless people are sussing me or engaging me on what I'm doing to try to place my alignment I feel non existent

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Neon is town. I can say this with a lot of certainty after catching up. I will remember this neon for all future games

Please don't. I don't want to have to try this hard in all my games.

uh this isn't off of effort or anything

Oh god.

idk what u took from this but I specifically have noticed the towntell that iaafr mentioned in the sabi invitational dvc that wasn't present from that game that you have now demonstrated here

I donut remember what that was but I hope I do it in the future lol

[santygrass]

Because you come into thread putting doubt on me / and your read on me and trying to shift to Porscha.

There could be motivation as a team in W!Alison is a better slot to keep alive. Or that Porscha isnt a wolf to start with and its busy town. I dont think the latter is the case, but I see more likely as a V!Alison world fwiw

so what ur saying is that im scummy in a v!alison world for trying to get the elimination off her onto the universally srd slot?

You are scummy in a W!alison world in where either
W!Porscha is a weaker role or is a busy Villa.

sure, i can see that. but why do i push doubt on you on the premise that alison is villa? shes will flip wolf and my entire case will be useless. how does that help my wolf agenda?

Because what matter is taking heat off Alison today.
Stating 'I might need to reevaluate santy in the future' helps that

Yeah okay I can see that, but again, of all the arguments I could pick to go after you I’d like to think as a wolf I would probably pick something much more reasonable. I don’t think it would be hard for me to make up a case against you in the world where I’m wolf and ur town

The intention wouldnt be to case me or yeet me. It would be to deviate.

I dont think Im changing my mind about this read, but Im not 'yeah Illario is always scum' mindset fwiw. I prob exaggerated the lash out at you a little to force a stance atm.
Prob better for you to read Alison and have a better read there. Because I think they are the better yeet today

[Chamomile]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

Read the post I pinged you in, please?

if not for me then for one piece!

[santygrass]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

[dyachei]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

no, i want to hear your solve if you're wrong town

[dyachei]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

Read the post I pinged you in, please?

if not for me then for one piece!

quote it for me

[MacDougall]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

no, i want to hear your solve if you're wrong town

ew

[Chamomile]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

Read the post I pinged you in, please?

if not for me then for one piece!

quote it for me

lol this is literally what the pings are for!

one piece second

[dyachei]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

no, i want to hear your solve if you're wrong town

ew

You know, I've thought that about some of your posts today

Whats wrong with wanting santy's thoughts on the solve if alison flips v?

It's part of how I'm trying to solve him

[Chamomile]

Alison's Made Up Logic for Why I am Town Summarized

Alison thinks I am 3P. Alison doesn't think I am mafia.
I came into today hard on Alison. I was hard on Ender yesterday.
Alison thinks specifically I am an executioner.
I sheep Illario on the Rodo vote thinking day ended today.
Alison thinks that Rodo is my execution target.
Alison thinks that execution target isn't mafia. Therefore if Rodo flips town, I am town.

I want everyone to read this!!! It. Is. Not. Real. If Alison really thought I was an executioner, she wouldn't think my target was for sure some rando player I sheep voted on. So strongly believe that, that if that person flipped town, her suspicion of me being executioner would dissolve. Especially because there are more viable targets of a cham!Executioner, say the people I've actually been going hard on to eliminate: Alison & Ender!

@MacDougall @ilario @EnderWiggin @dyachei @Tilgarial @Belzy

[dyachei]

Alison's Made Up Logic for Why I am Town Summarized

Alison thinks I am 3P. Alison doesn't think I am mafia.
I came into today hard on Alison. I was hard on Ender yesterday.
Alison thinks specifically I am an executioner.
I sheep Illario on the Rodo vote thinking day ended today.
Alison thinks that Rodo is my execution target.
Alison thinks that execution target isn't mafia. Therefore if Rodo flips town, I am town.

I want everyone to read this!!! It. Is. Not. Real. If Alison really thought I was an executioner, she wouldn't think my target was for sure some rando player I sheep voted on. So strongly believe that, that if that person flipped town, her suspicion of me being executioner would dissolve. Especially because there are more viable targets of a cham!Executioner, say the people I've actually been going hard on to eliminate: Alison & Ender!

@MacDougall @ilario @EnderWiggin @dyachei @Tilgarial @Belzy

i already answered this!

[santygrass]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

no, i want to hear your solve if you're wrong town

I dont think my PoE changes much?

Porscha
Tilg
Seanzie/Dya
Belzy

Maybe Alisom flipping green might be an indicator to reassess on Ender?

But I dont see why I need to explore those worlds atm when a slot highly misrepped me and their approach to the game has been super wolfsidey D1 and D2 tbh

[santygrass]

Oh. Nanook.

If Alison is Villa Nanook scum equity goes stonks to the roof

[santygrass]

Scratch the reassess ender and replacde it for Nook/Cham there. Zzzzz

[Chamomile]

Alison's Made Up Logic for Why I am Town Summarized

Alison thinks I am 3P. Alison doesn't think I am mafia.
I came into today hard on Alison. I was hard on Ender yesterday.
Alison thinks specifically I am an executioner.
I sheep Illario on the Rodo vote thinking day ended today.
Alison thinks that Rodo is my execution target.
Alison thinks that execution target isn't mafia. Therefore if Rodo flips town, I am town.

I want everyone to read this!!! It. Is. Not. Real. If Alison really thought I was an executioner, she wouldn't think my target was for sure some rando player I sheep voted on. So strongly believe that, that if that person flipped town, her suspicion of me being executioner would dissolve. Especially because there are more viable targets of a cham!Executioner, say the people I've actually been going hard on to eliminate: Alison & Ender!

@MacDougall @ilario @EnderWiggin @dyachei @Tilgarial @Belzy

i already answered this!

You just asked what if Alison flips town. She WONT. And the above is why. When I asked you your thoughts on this you said you were to sleepy to dive into it!

what the one piece is going on here

[MacDougall]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

no, i want to hear your solve if you're wrong town

ew

You know, I've thought that about some of your posts today

Whats wrong with wanting santy's thoughts on the solve if alison flips v?

It's part of how I'm trying to solve him

yeah you would dislike my posts today given you're blatantly a wolf with alison so that tracks

asking a tunneling town (rightly or wrongly) to theorycraft worlds outside their immediate purview the way that you just did is hilariously asinine... it's like asking an astronomer to argue that the earth is flat in the middle of them debating against a flat earther... it's disingenuous

[santygrass]

If Alison and Porscha are both mafia, and Belzy is town,
Seanzie taking so much issue and like, going at the claim and trying to prioritize solving there rather than Alison/Porscha could be near outing too fwiw

[Alison]

I agree with Seven.
Porscha as a wolf would likely be always outed even if they arent the yeet today. W!Porscha isn even posting rn.

I think any team would see as the better yeet now if Porscha/Alison is w/w f.e.

what if alison is town?

They arent.

If they flip green totally murderize me

>if they flip green totally murderize me
>spends 3 pages flaming illario for saying to scrutinize him if I flip green

[Alison]

Oh. Nanook.

If Alison is Villa Nanook scum equity goes stonks to the roof

Why does Nook = scum if I am town?