Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[Golden]

Town w/ roles should be looking into either slankers or CWs to root out Maf, Vanillas should be thread hunting.



We don't lynch slankers just yet

Can anyone translate this to old school language?

Idk about old school language, but Falcon is expressing the same sentiment i did earlier; we have a cop, so we should let the cop sort out the inactive players.

Oh, Falcon is also suggesting counterwagons as cop checks, which sure, that is reasonable as well (he said, trying not to let the thread see him sweat)

What do you mean 'cop checks'?

Read the civ role of town cop.

You are the Town Cop. Each night, you may alignment check one other player. You may roleclaim and infodump only once during the game. When you infodump, you may reveal the alignment of no more than two other players. Once you infodump, you will become vanilla for the remainder of the game. You must infodump before the mafia is down to their last living player or you will not be allowed to reveal their alignment if you know it.

Reading, but I meant more what's the point of the counterwagon. Is it like, forcing information out of cop by pressuring them to infodump?

The idea being espoused is that the cop is likely to check someone who is alive and has a lot of suspicion, to avoid the town wasting multiple days on them.

[Kate]

Town w/ roles should be looking into either slankers or CWs to root out Maf, Vanillas should be thread hunting.



We don't lynch slankers just yet

Can anyone translate this to old school language?

Idk about old school language, but Falcon is expressing the same sentiment i did earlier; we have a cop, so we should let the cop sort out the inactive players.

Oh, Falcon is also suggesting counterwagons as cop checks, which sure, that is reasonable as well (he said, trying not to let the thread see him sweat)

What do you mean 'cop checks'?

Each night the cop targets someone and the host tells the cop the target's alignment. That is a "cop check"

I think there's a misunderstanding. I know what the role does--what's the relevance of the counterwagon?

They're saying let the cop worry about who the counter wagoner player was. While we, in the thread, should keep hunting.

[Seanzie]

Town w/ roles should be looking into either slankers or CWs to root out Maf, Vanillas should be thread hunting.



We don't lynch slankers just yet

Can anyone translate this to old school language?

Idk about old school language, but Falcon is expressing the same sentiment i did earlier; we have a cop, so we should let the cop sort out the inactive players.

Oh, Falcon is also suggesting counterwagons as cop checks, which sure, that is reasonable as well (he said, trying not to let the thread see him sweat)

What do you mean 'cop checks'?

Each night the cop targets someone and the host tells the cop the target's alignment. That is a "cop check"

I think there's a misunderstanding. I know what the role does--what's the relevance of the counterwagon?

Knowing the alignments of everyone who was wagoned at an EoD can make it much easier to find mafia, so the cop figuring out the alignment of the counterwagon to the wagon that flips is a reasonable use of a cop check.

[Dennis]

I think I got it? Basically let the cop worry about who lives from the counterwagon and we keep looking in the thread is what I picked up.

[Dennis]

Having 3 adults trying to explain the same thing to me is really embarrassing but I appreciate it.

[Dennis]

2 hours to EoD and 3 people haven't voted. @bea @Soneji @Roxy What's up? Bea has been inactive but you other two have made plenty of comments today.

[S~V~S]

2 hours to EoD and 3 people haven't voted. @bea @Soneji @Roxy What's up? Bea has been inactive but you other two have made plenty of comments today.

Housekeeping notes:

1) I will add a screenshot of the Day 1 poll to the 'Polls' section of the OP momentarily.

2) @Roxy has been stripped of her vote today for self-voting during Day 1.

I believe Roxy lost her vote today due to self voting.

[Dennis]

2 hours to EoD and 3 people haven't voted. @bea @Soneji @Roxy What's up? Bea has been inactive but you other two have made plenty of comments today.

Housekeeping notes:

1) I will add a screenshot of the Day 1 poll to the 'Polls' section of the OP momentarily.

2) @Roxy has been stripped of her vote today for self-voting during Day 1.

I believe Roxy lost her vote today due to self voting.

Forgot about that, my bad. Soneji, I'm 95% sure you said something about not liking SOMETHING someone said.

[Scotty]

i think kate/scotty holds a wolf

Why? Who's the more likely?

with scotty i get bad vibes from his treatment of me and i believe he’s powerwolfing, kate is just gut

nah I’m powerlifting

[Seanzie]

2 hours to EoD and 3 people haven't voted. @bea @Soneji @Roxy What's up? Bea has been inactive but you other two have made plenty of comments today.

Housekeeping notes:

1) I will add a screenshot of the Day 1 poll to the 'Polls' section of the OP momentarily.

2) @Roxy has been stripped of her vote today for self-voting during Day 1.

I believe Roxy lost her vote today due to self voting.

Forgot about that, my bad. Soneji, I'm 95% sure you said something about not liking SOMETHING someone said.

Me, Lucy, someone.

[Scotty]

I town read both Roxy and matahari atm. Neither of them are any more quiet than they used to be, it just appears that way with much more vocal threads than we used to have. Their contributions are substantive.

See, I have the opposite reads of them. Mata has posted reads and thoughts but some of it just feels surface level, like she hasn’t gotten her footing in the game.

Roxy has been a tad aggressive which isn’t necessarily bad, but I also am not as keen with her conclusions.

I view Mata a step below Roxy on the mafia scale.

[Scotty]

and i haven’t even gotten into it with scotty and svs which i certainly will before eod

I’m still catching up but am awaiting this eventual getting

[Scotty]

I always get left out

It’s ok Kate. I know you’re here! I think you’re pretttttay fucking town.

[Golden]

I town read both Roxy and matahari atm. Neither of them are any more quiet than they used to be, it just appears that way with much more vocal threads than we used to have. Their contributions are substantive.

See, I have the opposite reads of them. Mata has posted reads and thoughts but some of it just feels surface level, like she hasn’t gotten her footing in the game.

Roxy has been a tad aggressive which isn’t necessarily bad, but I also am not as keen with her conclusions.

I view Mata a step below Roxy on the mafia scale.

My experience is that I don’t see the game eye to eye with Roxy in terms of conclusions so that doesn’t bother me. I like her processing.

If I knew for a fact one of Roxy and mata was mafia, I’d say it’s Roxy. But I’d put odds decent that it’s t/t

[Scotty]

Town w/ roles should be looking into either slankers or CWs to root out Maf, Vanillas should be thread hunting.



We don't lynch slankers just yet

Can anyone translate this to old school language?

Idk about old school language, but Falcon is expressing the same sentiment i did earlier; we have a cop, so we should let the cop sort out the inactive players.

Oh, Falcon is also suggesting counterwagons as cop checks, which sure, that is reasonable as well (he said, trying not to let the thread see him sweat)

What do you mean 'cop checks'?

Read the civ role of town cop.

You are the Town Cop. Each night, you may alignment check one other player. You may roleclaim and infodump only once during the game. When you infodump, you may reveal the alignment of no more than two other players. Once you infodump, you will become vanilla for the remainder of the game. You must infodump before the mafia is down to their last living player or you will not be allowed to reveal their alignment if you know it.

Reading, but I meant more what's the point of the counterwagon. Is it like, forcing information out of cop by pressuring them to infodump?

I think an important idea of a counterwagon means it pushes the counterwagoned player to defend and also forces other players to either vouch or pile on. This is important as the game progresses to see what wagons form, when, how many players were eager to jump on, etc

[Scotty]

Having 3 adults trying to explain the same thing to me is really embarrassing but I appreciate it.

lol no you’re looking at it wrong.

It’s like 3 experts in cuisine trying to teach an undergrad student how to flambé a bananas foster

[Dennis]

Having 3 adults trying to explain the same thing to me is really embarrassing but I appreciate it.

lol no you’re looking at it wrong.

It’s like 3 experts in cuisine trying to teach an undergrad student how to flambé a bananas foster

What?

[Seanzie]

Having 3 adults trying to explain the same thing to me is really embarrassing but I appreciate it.

lol no you’re looking at it wrong.

It’s like 3 experts in cuisine trying to teach an undergrad student how to flambé a bananas foster

The only way to flambe a bananas foster is to use consummate V's.

[Scotty]

Having 3 adults trying to explain the same thing to me is really embarrassing but I appreciate it.

lol no you’re looking at it wrong.

It’s like 3 experts in cuisine trying to teach an undergrad student how to flambé a bananas foster

What?

I’m saying you probably won’t be able to flambé a bananas foster on the first go, and that’s ok. You’re no expert. Yet.

I, however, am an expert on bananas and fostering [dogs] and can help you out

[Seanzie]

*pokes thread with a stick*

[Scotty]

Vote total a little over an hour left in Day 2:

Spoiler: show

bea
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dennis
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
fingersplints
0
No votes
Voters: None
Golden
1
7%
Voters: Sabiplz
jack shepherd
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kate
0
No votes
Voters: None
lucy
4
27%
Voters: fingersplints, Scotty, Dennis, falcon45ca
Matahari
0
No votes
Voters: None
Roxy
0
No votes
Voters: None
S~V~S
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sabiplz
6
40%
Voters: Kate, S~V~S, Seanzie, Golden, Matahari, lucy
Scotty
0
No votes
Voters: None
Seanzie
1
7%
Voters: Neon
Soneji
0
No votes
Voters: None

[Soneji]

2 hours to EoD and 3 people haven't voted. @bea @Soneji @Roxy What's up? Bea has been inactive but you other two have made plenty of comments today.

I'm here now, passed out earlier then had some stuff to do, but I'll be here until EoD. Thought the site was set to my timezone, so figured I had over two hours left but the site is set to an hour ahead of me so I have less than I thought

[Scotty]

*pokes thread with a stick*

*takes stick*

*wags tail*

[Seanzie]

*pokes thread with a stick*

*takes stick*

*wags tail*

drop it.!

[Soneji]

Probably best to just focus on lucy vs sabi given the time left, will go ISO.

[Scotty]

*pokes thread with a stick*

*takes stick*

*wags tail*

drop it.!

[Seanzie]

Probably best to just focus on lucy vs sabi given the time left, will go ISO.

Kinda sucks when both wagons are your teammates, doesn't it?

[Scotty]

meh. maybe not. Maybe sabi just doesn’t have the gusto to defend or put forth effort as either alignment and everything’s fine.

I just want to flip lucy so bad

[Scotty]

Okay I gotta go to work. Good luck fam

[Soneji]

Probably best to just focus on lucy vs sabi given the time left, will go ISO.

Kinda sucks when both wagons are your teammates, doesn't it?

I'm a big fan of buses :

[Golden]

meh. maybe not. Maybe sabi just doesn’t have the gusto to defend or put forth effort as either alignment and everything’s fine.

I just want to flip lucy so bad

Is this an ‘I feel like a Lucy flip will significantly inform how I feel about what’s happening in the game’ vibe.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

[Scotty]

meh. maybe not. Maybe sabi just doesn’t have the gusto to defend or put forth effort as either alignment and everything’s fine.

I just want to flip lucy so bad

Is this an ‘I feel like a Lucy flip will significantly inform how I feel about what’s happening in the game’ vibe.

I haven’t left yet

Answer: I think they both will. My shrugginess with sabi is that a lot of people voting them I view as town. So that’s informative.

This will just be the second time in a row I’ve been voting lucy for a majority of the day and am headstrong about my resolve

[falcon45ca]

Probably best to just focus on lucy vs sabi given the time left, will go ISO.

Kinda sucks when both wagons are your teammates, doesn't it?

I'm a big fan of buses :

[VOTE: You] aubergine

[Scotty]

Cool. 5-5 tie.

Now we just need sabi to…maybe show up and self pres

Or not I’m not the boss of them

[Scotty]

Probably best to just focus on lucy vs sabi given the time left, will go ISO.

Kinda sucks when both wagons are your teammates, doesn't it?

I'm a big fan of buses :

[VOTE: You] aubergine

Never mind. This is a vote that has broken the tie.

[falcon45ca]

Cool. 5-5 tie.

Now we just need sabi to…maybe show up and self pres

Or not I’m not the boss of them

Nah, I changed that

[Scotty]

I feel confident at least one of these players is wolf.

[falcon45ca]

I dislike that Sonei is barely here, yet makes appearances at...oh, let's say times of convenience

[Seanzie]

I feel confident at least one of these players is wolf.

Which players exactly?

[falcon45ca]

I feel confident at least one of these players is wolf.

One of these being?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

3 GMs (grand marnier) 2 lucky lagers, and half a clubhouse sammich, and I'll be goddamned why Sean is getting any sort of TR from anyone btw

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

Oh, herro Mongorian...here to break shiddy wall?

[robyn]

[VOTE: Sonej] aubergine

glorious

[Seanzie]

3 GMs (grand marnier) 2 lucky lagers, and half a clubhouse sammich, and I'll be goddamned why Sean is getting any sort of TR from anyone btw

It's because I'm pretty.

[robyn]

meh. maybe not. Maybe sabi just doesn’t have the gusto to defend or put forth effort as either alignment and everything’s fine.

I just want to flip lucy so bad

after i flip you gotta admit to playing poorly

[robyn]

“Fucking Roxy”?

what

[Soneji]

Yes. Certainly, or I would not have posted about it multiple times. I felt it was opportunistic. I felt it was a false flag, trying to make a non suspicios thing seem suspicious, trying to focus suspicion on "not us" which is what mafia have to do in a game with no other baddies or third party.

But right now I am here trying to decide if and where I should move my vote, so again, who else would you have me vote for and why?

well currently the wagons are sabi/seanzie and I'd be down for a seanzie vote for aforementioned reasons

and you totally didn't read or understand my logic whatsoever

also do you disagree with my logic?
1) poke into the family
2) if I judge there's scum between the 3 they'll easily be able to find them, via best reads on one another
3) if they're all town, then I can confidently clear all 3 and form a townblock

like seriously, when did I ever fucking sus them unnecessarily and what is the scum motive?

Regarding the bolded, there are no aforementioned reasons, at least from them or anything quoted by them. They kept saying they would do a reads list, and asked others why Seanzie was a wagon, but had no follow up to either.

Do you think this is a thing that should be taken into account regarding suspicions?

Also, again, if not you who should I vote for?

changed my answer, sabi because two wagons are better than one at eod, unless you wanna build a wagon, which I'm not opposed to, I just don't have a great idea on who as of now

Nailing a wolf is priority number one, and making a second competitive wagon just opens the door for the top suspect of the day to be saved, which lucy is advocating here then later joins Wilgy wagon.

seanzie is in his town meta

Now late in the day they're saying Seanzie is in town meta with no reasoning to back that up and no progression from their earlier post where they said they'd be down for a Seanzie vote(said post was made less than an hour and a half before this one).

probably one in sabi/seanzie

What happened to you thinking Seanzie was in his town meta? Or that sabi is town because of Seanzie's push?

Pretty dumb and empty reason to wolf read me.

Seanzie sucks at reading me part 69.

Anyway back to work.

Quite literally the biggest wagon D1 so far has been 2 votes.

No one exceeded that.

How tf is that not a quiet D1????

Ugh I'm tilted and breaking my no mafia at work rule

500 post 75% thru day one is definitely quiet ffa

Pretty big reaction to such a "dumb and empty" reason to wolf read you.

Seanzie how many games have you played with me. Is me overreacting to a scum read normal or abnormal for me?

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

just for good measure, votin' ya' twice.

seanzie tunneling sabi is town indicative of sabi regardless of seanzie's alignment

lucy keeps contradicting themselves, and focusing on either things that don't really benefit the game much(family dynamics) or on trying to get rid of inactives as it were. Pretty strong wolf read.

[robyn]

bad read, but i understand ur trying to save sabi