Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[hollowkatt]

Can't believe in being bullied for saying lopbunny is low key kinda thicc

bunnythicc

[WindwardAway]

I think finding players is ~fine but publicly announcing who you think is a player or npc is not a good town tactic
I said this before and I'm saying it again

'sup Wind. How do you propose we approach the game?

Sorry if you've said this already I'm not sure if I'll backread the game.

It's fine
I think it's fine to sort out for yourself who you think is a player versus npc but it isn't great to out your "this is a town player" takes in the thread because it gives wolves a target if there is enough of a consensus on the slot
Whereas its favorable to town to let wolves mistakenly hit an Npc
And most NPCs will lurk and not put in effort, so they aren't going to be night killed anyway until the NPC cull.

I see the value in what you're proposing but I also think it's a bit utopic.

Nutella said this earlier but for some players it's kinda easy to figure out if they're the type of person who would sign up as a player or as an NPC. I don't think mafia will have a lot of trouble with the NKs, I'm p sure they'd miss like 1, 2 at most kills, during 7 days, considering they have a scout, they just scout the player who they want to NK next, kinda.

Like, I think there's some kind of consensus on who's a player and who's an NPC, which is going to show itself more as the days go on whether we want it or not.

I know I've hardclaimed NPC earlier but ftr I'm the kind of person who would claim NPC as a player. I think, at least, no that I'd know for sure...

Yeah you have a point
Idk why people think I'm a wolf specifically though lol
If I joined this game as a player and randed wolf I would have to put my ass into high gear and not just potato around doing nothing and refusing to give reads if I was getting pushed
I know that falls under the category of "self-meta" but tbh that's how I play mashes, I potato around for like two or three days until half the playerlist is gone and then I do shit
And if I get pushed before that point and am in actual danger of dying then I feel obligated to produce results even if I have no idea what I am doing
Which... is not a good approach but yeah

Also I think the handful of people who know me have figured out i would act like a player as an npc and I'd also claim npc as a player so whatever lol

[Hally]

Yall telling me you wouldn't be calling lopbunny mommy if you saw them in person

why must u say these things

[SilverKeith]

I think finding players is ~fine but publicly announcing who you think is a player or npc is not a good town tactic
I said this before and I'm saying it again

'sup Wind. How do you propose we approach the game?

Sorry if you've said this already I'm not sure if I'll backread the game.

It's fine
I think it's fine to sort out for yourself who you think is a player versus npc but it isn't great to out your "this is a town player" takes in the thread because it gives wolves a target if there is enough of a consensus on the slot
Whereas its favorable to town to let wolves mistakenly hit an Npc
And most NPCs will lurk and not put in effort, so they aren't going to be night killed anyway until the NPC cull.

I see the value in what you're proposing but I also think it's a bit utopic.

Nutella said this earlier but for some players it's kinda easy to figure out if they're the type of person who would sign up as a player or as an NPC. I don't think mafia will have a lot of trouble with the NKs, I'm p sure they'd miss like 1, 2 at most kills, during 7 days, considering they have a scout, they just scout the player who they want to NK next, kinda.

Like, I think there's some kind of consensus on who's a player and who's an NPC, which is going to show itself more as the days go on whether we want it or not.

I know I've hardclaimed NPC earlier but ftr I'm the kind of person who would claim NPC as a player. I think, at least, no that I'd know for sure...

Yeah you have a point
Idk why people think I'm a wolf specifically though lol
If I joined this game as a player and randed wolf I would have to put my ass into high gear and not just potato around doing nothing and refusing to give reads if I was getting pushed
I know that falls under the category of "self-meta" but tbh that's how I play mashes, I potato around for like two or three days until half the playerlist is gone and then I do shit
And if I get pushed before that point and am in actual danger of dying then I feel obligated to produce results even if I have no idea what I am doing
Which... is not a good approach but yeah

Do ppl really think you're a wolf specifically aside from Rondo? And yeah I guess there's a bit of "lol self meta" but w/e. Ftr I don't think you're a potato and I like your playstyle. I think you can do good stuff given enough space to work with. Which is partially the push from Rondo annoys me, I think, now that I've written it. Hm.

[Sabiplz]

I dunno why I say these things.

I blame the edibles I took earlier

[SilverKeith]

I love the fact that there's a game related conversation going on while the "lopbunny mommy" discourse is also happening around it.

Keep it going gang you're doing great.

[Hally]

I love the fact that there's a game related conversation going on while the "lopbunny mommy" discourse is also happening around it.

Keep it going gang you're doing great.

just as mafia should be

also hi SK

[WindwardAway]

I think finding players is ~fine but publicly announcing who you think is a player or npc is not a good town tactic
I said this before and I'm saying it again

'sup Wind. How do you propose we approach the game?

Sorry if you've said this already I'm not sure if I'll backread the game.

It's fine
I think it's fine to sort out for yourself who you think is a player versus npc but it isn't great to out your "this is a town player" takes in the thread because it gives wolves a target if there is enough of a consensus on the slot
Whereas its favorable to town to let wolves mistakenly hit an Npc
And most NPCs will lurk and not put in effort, so they aren't going to be night killed anyway until the NPC cull.

I see the value in what you're proposing but I also think it's a bit utopic.

Nutella said this earlier but for some players it's kinda easy to figure out if they're the type of person who would sign up as a player or as an NPC. I don't think mafia will have a lot of trouble with the NKs, I'm p sure they'd miss like 1, 2 at most kills, during 7 days, considering they have a scout, they just scout the player who they want to NK next, kinda.

Like, I think there's some kind of consensus on who's a player and who's an NPC, which is going to show itself more as the days go on whether we want it or not.

I know I've hardclaimed NPC earlier but ftr I'm the kind of person who would claim NPC as a player. I think, at least, no that I'd know for sure...

Yeah you have a point
Idk why people think I'm a wolf specifically though lol
If I joined this game as a player and randed wolf I would have to put my ass into high gear and not just potato around doing nothing and refusing to give reads if I was getting pushed
I know that falls under the category of "self-meta" but tbh that's how I play mashes, I potato around for like two or three days until half the playerlist is gone and then I do shit
And if I get pushed before that point and am in actual danger of dying then I feel obligated to produce results even if I have no idea what I am doing
Which... is not a good approach but yeah

Do ppl really think you're a wolf specifically aside from Rondo? And yeah I guess there's a bit of "lol self meta" but w/e. Ftr I don't think you're a potato and I like your playstyle. I think you can do good stuff given enough space to work with. Which is partially the push from Rondo annoys me, I think, now that I've written it. Hm.

Creature, from what I saw, also thinks I'm a wolf
I'm being pretty potatoey in this game, though, that wouldn't be a wrong take but yeah i havent had the time or space which is a bit disappointing, definitely for me and probably for other people

Thing is that I just form my reads naturally as they come along (I mean when I'm not scum, obviously) and so if I don't have reads, it's not as if I'm hiding them, I just literally don't have reads. Of course every single post leaves some sort of an impression but I try my best to filter out how much of my bias is based on an alignment indicative piece of information, and how much can potentially be chalked up to playstyle, and I would like to think I account pretty well for different playstyles but in reality I suck at reading certain players and I'm fairly accurate at reading others. So that doesn't really mean much in the end, I feel like I tend to peg playstyles correctly but the ones I know I have difficulty in reading, still give me difficulty despite that I'm aware of this.

So like, the thing with Rondo is that I would generally assume jumping at me straight out of the door is more towny than not, I didn't come across as particularly willing to solve, and stated my intent to watch chaos unfold which was kind of antitown or at least not protown. I wouldn't fault someone for thinking that's scummy. But persisting on it for longer and continuing to try to rally others into scumreading me on what seems like pretty thin reasoning is kind of questionable.

The other thing is, some people just do that as town because that's how they play. But sometimes they're the type who's aware of what they do as town, and use it to hide behind as scum. I don't know Rondo as a player but from what I'm gathering from Sabi, it sounds like Rondo would be able to get away with tunnelling on a bad push as scum because he does do it as town too and is conscious of it.

So yeah, correct me if I'm wrong on this. But that's what I've understood so far, which is not to necessarily clear Rondo for choosing to tunnel me the whole day when there seems to be a kind of low amount of interest on my slot compared to the other wagon candidates.

[WindwardAway]

I love the fact that there's a game related conversation going on while the "lopbunny mommy" discourse is also happening around it.

Keep it going gang you're doing great.

I'm not sure if I should be proud or horrified that I'm participating in both conversations

[nutella]

windwallaway uwu

[WindwardAway]

Also, sorry my focus is so incredibly narrow because I haven't been reading the thread
I just figured I'd go with the Rondo discussion since I've obviously paid some attention to his push on me and it's a bit easier for me to get into the game if I solve around my own slot first and branch out from there

[WindwardAway]

windwallaway uwu

Lol I hope you weren't holding your breath for that one

[Manny]

I know I've hardclaimed NPC earlier but ftr I'm the kind of person who would claim NPC as a player. I think, at least, no that I'd know for sure...

you are also the type of person that wouldnt join this as player :^)

[Manny]

I blame the edibles I took earlier

Dont put it on the edibles they just make it easier to say what you think :^), embrace that side of yourself sabi.

[Sabiplz]

Windwardwallpost aka lock not scum

[WindwardAway]

I blame the edibles I took earlier

Dont put it on the edibles they just make it easier to say what you think :^), embrace that side of yourself sabi.

They're too busy embracing that lopunny

[WindwardAway]

Windwardwallpost aka lock not scum

Have you not seen me wallpost as scum? Kinda surprised if so
But I don't remember if you've even seen my scum game

[Sabiplz]

I blame the edibles I took earlier

Dont put it on the edibles they just make it easier to say what you think :^), embrace that side of yourself sabi.

No. I'm gay sorry. Gay for people

[Sabiplz]

Windwardwallpost aka lock not scum

Have you not seen me wallpost as scum? Kinda surprised if so
But I don't remember if you've even seen my scum game

I have and your wallpost there are different

[WindwardAway]

Windwardwallpost aka lock not scum

Have you not seen me wallpost as scum? Kinda surprised if so
But I don't remember if you've even seen my scum game

I have and your wallpost there are different

OK I guess I don't wallpost half my self-meta and then leave a hedgy read lmao

[Sabiplz]

Anyway I need to go buy brie for the baked brie dish in my cheese dishes (I made a cheese board and also doing a baked brie) for friendsmasgiving.

[DrWilgy]

WHY DOES THIS HAVE 1,100 POSTS

same tbh

[DrWilgy]

Evidence that katze's motivations in this game are dark and foreboding, such that you might consider katze to be aligned with an unsavory faction

Spoiler: show

Hello everyone!!! I'm katze, and I'll be shitposting in your game!

If you would like to reach to me, you can PM me here on the Syndicate or DM me on Discord. Here's the info you need for that:

katze
Discord ID: macdougall#69420
please dont click me
Time Zone: Pacific Standard Time (UTC-8)

Please remember that every other player is also katze. We make no mistakes. All of us are perfect. Treat others with joy and exercise eyebleaching with cat pictures if you feel yourself beginning to get angry or upset at the game. If you need to vent, please feel free to message your mother, I am happy to listen in. She is also available for reports of any Code of Conduct or Rules violations. Consider me your favorite NPC so that the game state remains healthy and exciting for everyone.

If you have game-related queries (setup, role questions, game play, etc.) please ask in thread.

Finally, please take a few minutes.

Here we see katze immediately proclaiming that they intend to shitpost in the game. I am being asked to believe that katze is just going to shitpost in this Mafia game thread, where players are trying to win the game, as though katze doesn't even care. Well, I'll be the judge. We'll see if this reflects a consistent mindset.

Spoiler: show

Let's begin with a rousing game of Walrus.

Please post your entry in the thread in the form of a YouTube video.

The theme is "Keeping Secrets".

Good luck team, see you in 48.

So here, in just their second post, right after the previous post, they post a fart??? Excuse you, I guess? To me this looks like a player who wants to promote the image of being uncaring, and they're just milking it way beyond reason. I don't buy it. This might have even been a nervous fart rebranded as something comedic.

Spoiler: show

I'm cold reading kat as an NPC for being here at all and I'm also leaving

well duh

I find it extremely doubtful that katze would just tell everyone they're an NPC like this if they're being honest. Posturing anyone? Fake claiming anyone? You can't just do this.

Spoiler: show

Also I'm planning on townsiding.

Unless other players also claim NPC and they plan on townsiding, in that case I'm wolfsiding.

my reads are shit but ill townside just so u wolfside and then we can repeat that one game

Oh my god. I can't believe they wrote this post. This is sooooo bad. CLEARLY katze is trying to get in front of wolfsiding by claiming bad reads. This is disgusting.

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i called michelle a player first so rabbit and nutella are just sheeping the champze

tbh

Blatant pocketing. I hope iaafr and nutella aren't fooled. I'm not buying any of this. The whole ISO is SCREAMING wolf.

Spoiler: show

sloonei kinda cute tho

OMG will the pocketing never end?

Spoiler: show

if hally isnt an NPC shes an obvious villager btw

i have a hally godread

This is pretty damning for Hally. katze town read them so I think they're both bad news.

Spoiler: show

if katze/sloonei turn out to not be npcs i wouldnt be surprised if they turn out to be mafia, but imma just treat them as npcs for now

my iso is out of my wolf range

unfortunately it is also out of my town range

Oh yeah! I believe you! Not!

~~~

Conclusion

katze is town

Someone give me the updated vote count so I can vote this man.

[WindwardAway]

Anyway I need to go buy brie for the baked brie dish in my cheese dishes (I made a cheese board and also doing a baked brie) for friendsmasgiving.

Nice, have fun!
I did my cooking duty last week and it was a blast but I had Thanksgiving leftovers all week lol

[Sabiplz]

Anyway I need to go buy brie for the baked brie dish in my cheese dishes (I made a cheese board and also doing a baked brie) for friendsmasgiving.

Nice, have fun!
I did my cooking duty last week and it was a blast but I had Thanksgiving leftovers all week lol

Yea making a baked brie with onion chutney

And another baked brie with cranberry chutney

:3

[DrWilgy]

Oh yeah michelle is maybe a wolf, definitely a player

Also rondo is cringe and prob a player

Michelle is like one of my 1.5 pro town reads. Why player?

[WindwardAway]

Evidence that katze's motivations in this game are dark and foreboding, such that you might consider katze to be aligned with an unsavory faction

Spoiler: show

Hello everyone!!! I'm katze, and I'll be shitposting in your game!

If you would like to reach to me, you can PM me here on the Syndicate or DM me on Discord. Here's the info you need for that:

katze
Discord ID: macdougall#69420
please dont click me
Time Zone: Pacific Standard Time (UTC-8)

Please remember that every other player is also katze. We make no mistakes. All of us are perfect. Treat others with joy and exercise eyebleaching with cat pictures if you feel yourself beginning to get angry or upset at the game. If you need to vent, please feel free to message your mother, I am happy to listen in. She is also available for reports of any Code of Conduct or Rules violations. Consider me your favorite NPC so that the game state remains healthy and exciting for everyone.

If you have game-related queries (setup, role questions, game play, etc.) please ask in thread.

Finally, please take a few minutes.

Here we see katze immediately proclaiming that they intend to shitpost in the game. I am being asked to believe that katze is just going to shitpost in this Mafia game thread, where players are trying to win the game, as though katze doesn't even care. Well, I'll be the judge. We'll see if this reflects a consistent mindset.

Spoiler: show

Let's begin with a rousing game of Walrus.

Please post your entry in the thread in the form of a YouTube video.

The theme is "Keeping Secrets".

Good luck team, see you in 48.

So here, in just their second post, right after the previous post, they post a fart??? Excuse you, I guess? To me this looks like a player who wants to promote the image of being uncaring, and they're just milking it way beyond reason. I don't buy it. This might have even been a nervous fart rebranded as something comedic.

Spoiler: show

I'm cold reading kat as an NPC for being here at all and I'm also leaving

well duh

I find it extremely doubtful that katze would just tell everyone they're an NPC like this if they're being honest. Posturing anyone? Fake claiming anyone? You can't just do this.

Spoiler: show

Also I'm planning on townsiding.

Unless other players also claim NPC and they plan on townsiding, in that case I'm wolfsiding.

my reads are shit but ill townside just so u wolfside and then we can repeat that one game

Oh my god. I can't believe they wrote this post. This is sooooo bad. CLEARLY katze is trying to get in front of wolfsiding by claiming bad reads. This is disgusting.

Spoiler: show

i called michelle a player first so rabbit and nutella are just sheeping the champze

tbh

Blatant pocketing. I hope iaafr and nutella aren't fooled. I'm not buying any of this. The whole ISO is SCREAMING wolf.

Spoiler: show

sloonei kinda cute tho

OMG will the pocketing never end?

Spoiler: show

if hally isnt an NPC shes an obvious villager btw

i have a hally godread

This is pretty damning for Hally. katze town read them so I think they're both bad news.

Spoiler: show

if katze/sloonei turn out to not be npcs i wouldnt be surprised if they turn out to be mafia, but imma just treat them as npcs for now

my iso is out of my wolf range

unfortunately it is also out of my town range

Oh yeah! I believe you! Not!

~~~

Conclusion

katze is town

Someone give me the updated vote count so I can vote this man.

...is that a real take lol

[WindwardAway]

Anyway I need to go buy brie for the baked brie dish in my cheese dishes (I made a cheese board and also doing a baked brie) for friendsmasgiving.

Nice, have fun!
I did my cooking duty last week and it was a blast but I had Thanksgiving leftovers all week lol

Yea making a baked brie with onion chutney

And another baked brie with cranberry chutney

:3

Both sound amazing

[WindwardAway]

Btw I meant, is JJJ's post on katze a real take

[DrWilgy]

If I were town I'd be voting Michelle lmao

No. Stop. I will defend my sheep target.

[WindwardAway]

Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious

[WindwardAway]

The farther I remove myself from this game, the more accurate my reads are gonna be

[DrWilgy]

Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious

Screaming shitposting npc Jay to me.

Let's kill it anyways.

[Jackofhearts2005]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cú_Chulainn

[WindwardAway]

Just a thought
That I am contemplating following up on
And going back into observer mode with very little commentary

[Jackofhearts2005]

The moral of the story of Cu Chuliann is don’t eat puppers.

[WindwardAway]

Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious

Screaming shitposting npc Jay to me.

Let's kill it anyways.

What's the point of killing someone you think is >rand NPC though

[DrWilgy]

Ayo, the wife was all like let's get some Wingstop for dinner.

Imma eat me some delicious chicken.

[DrWilgy]

Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious

Screaming shitposting npc Jay to me.

Let's kill it anyways.

What's the point of killing someone you think is >rand NPC though

Vengeance

[WindwardAway]

Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious

Screaming shitposting npc Jay to me.

Let's kill it anyways.

What's the point of killing someone you think is >rand NPC though

I mean I know it thins out the playerlist without doing any harm to town
But it doesn't exactly progress the game either, does it? Unless you think there's actually a chance JJJ is scum

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yall telling me you wouldn't be calling lopbunny mommy if you saw them in person

[WindwardAway]

Cause I legit cannot tell if it was serious

Screaming shitposting npc Jay to me.

Let's kill it anyways.

What's the point of killing someone you think is >rand NPC though

Vengeance

Oh lol

[Jackofhearts2005]

I kinda wanna yeet everyone hunting for PCs vs NPCs into the sun under both the idea of it being unhelpful and unimportant and easy to get wrong but also the most blatant example of busywork you could think of.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I kinda wanna yeet everyone hunting for PCs vs NPCs into the sun under both the idea of it being unhelpful and unimportant and easy to get wrong but also the most blatant example of busywork you could think of.

Should I start doing ISO reviews to determine if people are playing the game

[WindwardAway]

I kinda wanna yeet everyone hunting for PCs vs NPCs into the sun under both the idea of it being unhelpful and unimportant and easy to get wrong but also the most blatant example of busywork you could think of.

Well, that's kind of why I advocated against it
But idk, some of it has merit, some of it doesn't
I don't see any point in saying much until I actually think I've found a wolf, but I'm happy to discuss slots for that matter
I'm just not going to scream, "I found a player!!!! I think they're a town player!!!!" because that's still -EV in my opinion, maybe because I can't soulread most people if I've never played with them before.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I kinda wanna yeet Jay under the idea that he’s not town Jay.

[WindwardAway]

I kinda wanna yeet Jay under the idea that he’s not town Jay.

What's your case on him!

[WindwardAway]

That was supposed to be a question mark lol

[Jackofhearts2005]

Like you’re going about this the wrong way.

Take me and Jay. We are both townies irl. I will shitpost regardless of my alignment but also, we will both attempt to solve the game assuming we are townies or npcs.

When I’m more serious than Jay….what does that say about Jay’s alignment?

[SilverKeith]

I think finding players is ~fine but publicly announcing who you think is a player or npc is not a good town tactic
I said this before and I'm saying it again

'sup Wind. How do you propose we approach the game?

Sorry if you've said this already I'm not sure if I'll backread the game.

It's fine
I think it's fine to sort out for yourself who you think is a player versus npc but it isn't great to out your "this is a town player" takes in the thread because it gives wolves a target if there is enough of a consensus on the slot
Whereas its favorable to town to let wolves mistakenly hit an Npc
And most NPCs will lurk and not put in effort, so they aren't going to be night killed anyway until the NPC cull.

I see the value in what you're proposing but I also think it's a bit utopic.

Nutella said this earlier but for some players it's kinda easy to figure out if they're the type of person who would sign up as a player or as an NPC. I don't think mafia will have a lot of trouble with the NKs, I'm p sure they'd miss like 1, 2 at most kills, during 7 days, considering they have a scout, they just scout the player who they want to NK next, kinda.

Like, I think there's some kind of consensus on who's a player and who's an NPC, which is going to show itself more as the days go on whether we want it or not.

I know I've hardclaimed NPC earlier but ftr I'm the kind of person who would claim NPC as a player. I think, at least, no that I'd know for sure...

Yeah you have a point
Idk why people think I'm a wolf specifically though lol
If I joined this game as a player and randed wolf I would have to put my ass into high gear and not just potato around doing nothing and refusing to give reads if I was getting pushed
I know that falls under the category of "self-meta" but tbh that's how I play mashes, I potato around for like two or three days until half the playerlist is gone and then I do shit
And if I get pushed before that point and am in actual danger of dying then I feel obligated to produce results even if I have no idea what I am doing
Which... is not a good approach but yeah

Do ppl really think you're a wolf specifically aside from Rondo? And yeah I guess there's a bit of "lol self meta" but w/e. Ftr I don't think you're a potato and I like your playstyle. I think you can do good stuff given enough space to work with. Which is partially the push from Rondo annoys me, I think, now that I've written it. Hm.

Creature, from what I saw, also thinks I'm a wolf
I'm being pretty potatoey in this game, though, that wouldn't be a wrong take but yeah i havent had the time or space which is a bit disappointing, definitely for me and probably for other people

Thing is that I just form my reads naturally as they come along (I mean when I'm not scum, obviously) and so if I don't have reads, it's not as if I'm hiding them, I just literally don't have reads. Of course every single post leaves some sort of an impression but I try my best to filter out how much of my bias is based on an alignment indicative piece of information, and how much can potentially be chalked up to playstyle, and I would like to think I account pretty well for different playstyles but in reality I suck at reading certain players and I'm fairly accurate at reading others. So that doesn't really mean much in the end, I feel like I tend to peg playstyles correctly but the ones I know I have difficulty in reading, still give me difficulty despite that I'm aware of this.

So like, the thing with Rondo is that I would generally assume jumping at me straight out of the door is more towny than not, I didn't come across as particularly willing to solve, and stated my intent to watch chaos unfold which was kind of antitown or at least not protown. I wouldn't fault someone for thinking that's scummy. But persisting on it for longer and continuing to try to rally others into scumreading me on what seems like pretty thin reasoning is kind of questionable.

The other thing is, some people just do that as town because that's how they play. But sometimes they're the type who's aware of what they do as town, and use it to hide behind as scum. I don't know Rondo as a player but from what I'm gathering from Sabi, it sounds like Rondo would be able to get away with tunnelling on a bad push as scum because he does do it as town too and is conscious of it.

So yeah, correct me if I'm wrong on this. But that's what I've understood so far, which is not to necessarily clear Rondo for choosing to tunnel me the whole day when there seems to be a kind of low amount of interest on my slot compared to the other wagon candidates.

Creature doesn't count he gives wolfreads for free everyday. God knows I've been on his scumlist for far too long.

I'm not sure if you're correct on your meta assessment of rondo bc I'm not familiar of him, but generally speaking I have trouble reading his type of playsyle.

As for the rest, this is a p townie post actually, shame we're both npcs :¨)