Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[Scotty]

And thank you if you saved me

Now let’s talk about that Soneji vote.

How the hell did that happen? Ngl I didn’t read the last 4 pages that happened before end of day and probably won’t get to it.

There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean

[Dennis]

There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean

This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints

[Dennis]

Wish I could say more but honestly I don't have too strong opinions on any of them. GTH I say Lucy is bad.

[robyn]

holy shit lmao, this is an easy win for us now because doc can confirm 2 townies and cop can confirm 2 players

[Dennis]

Is doc allowed to say who they protected or role-claim? I thought that's against the rules

[Dennis]

Role-claiming and info-dumping are prohibited in this game unless otherwise specified in the roles.

Doc can't roleclaim. But I do want to hear from cop today

[falcon45ca]

There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean

This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints

Fingersplints needs pressure for sure

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: fingers] aubergine

[Scotty]

There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean

This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints

Why would you assume that we all think those 2 are good?

[Scotty]

Role-claiming and info-dumping are prohibited in this game unless otherwise specified in the roles.

Doc can't roleclaim. But I do want to hear from cop today

Why today and not tomorrow?

Getting nervous are we?

[Dennis]

There’s no way that Soneji wagon was clean

This is exactly what I was thinking. I think today we have to vote one of the six who were on the Soneji wagon so:

Golden, falcon, Lucy, SVS, fingersplints, Kate

I assume everyone agrees Kate and SVS both aren't bad, so that brings us to

Golden, falcon, Lucy, fingersplints

Why would you assume that we all think those 2 are good?

Has there been anyone saying they aren't in their towncore? I have only heard civ reads for the both of them. If you would like we can add them back to the pool but I thought we should narrow it down as small as possible, seeing as how important it is we get a mafia out.

[Dennis]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

[Scotty]

The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

[Kate]

Are you guys thinking this is a great doctor or an inactive mafia?

[Scotty]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

[Scotty]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Ugh *facetious

[Dennis]

The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

I realized how weird it would look but I'm not about to let someone I think is civ just... die. Not without at least trying to step in.

[Dennis]

Are you guys thinking this is a great doctor or an inactive mafia?

Good doctor just because of how people's posting habits. The majority of people have posted a few times over the past. I don't think it's possible that all 3 mafia happened to not log in for 24 hours, twice in a row.

[falcon45ca]

The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

Nah, it's totally in my wheelhouse

[Scotty]

Are you guys thinking this is a great doctor or an inactive mafia?

I don’t see that happening. Vivax replaced Mata, Rondo replaced bea. All that happened last night, and I don’t see those 2 as inactive or forgetting to submit an action.

This seems like bonafide zocdoc in-network magic

Which also makes me feel like the doc must be protecting top-looking civs

[falcon45ca]

Are you guys thinking this is a great doctor or an inactive mafia?

IME, Maf rarely fail to submit kills on Syndicate

[Scotty]

The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

I realized how weird it would look but I'm not about to let someone I think is civ just... die. Not without at least trying to step in.

Who are you talking about here?

[Dennis]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

[Scotty]

Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

[Dennis]

The tandem of Dennis and falcon coming out swinging for splints’ head feels…off

I realized how weird it would look but I'm not about to let someone I think is civ just... die. Not without at least trying to step in.

Who are you talking about here?

Soneji. I defended him last night.

[Scotty]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

[Kate]

Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

We POE'd in thread then sort of made a consensus.

[Dennis]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

What were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?

[Scotty]

Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

We POE'd in thread then sort of made a consensus.

Interesting. I had him in my towncore before I headed out for the day.

If you could pull a Cher and turn back time, who would you have voted for instead?

[Golden]

Ok Kate - you’re my top town read after yesterday, feel very confident that you’re town even though soneji didn’t go so well. I feel at sea.

I want your instincts right now… our PoE is good and we limmed the wrong person, or our PoE was bad?

[Golden]

Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

We POE'd in thread then sort of made a consensus.

Interesting. I had him in my towncore before I headed out for the day.

If you could pull a Cher and turn back time, who would you have voted for instead?

For me, probably mata… but I think my gut has been wrong a lot this game.

[Kate]

Ok like I said I haven’t backread yet and will only if I get time. Why did Soneji wagon take off?

We POE'd in thread then sort of made a consensus.

Interesting. I had him in my towncore before I headed out for the day.

If you could pull a Cher and turn back time, who would you have voted for instead?

I should have stuck with splints I think

[Scotty]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

What were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?

Let’s back up.

I said “you must be nervous” in response to you posting “cop should claim”

As an indictment of faith. That statement comes off as nervous when we’ve had 2 doc saves.

So:
Why should doc claim today?

[Scotty]

Getting nervous are we?

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

What were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?

Let’s back up.

I said “you must be nervous” in response to you posting “cop should claim”

As an indictment of faith. That statement comes off as nervous when we’ve had 2 doc saves.

So:
Why should doc claim today?

er, why should cop claim (my god I’m tired

[Scotty]

My phone’s about to die- i didn’t read the thread progression but my instinct tells me Soneji was an unfortunate wagon that was steered towards as a diversion from someone else that was conceivably in the POE but only had a few votes. Splints comes to mind, but I don’t know who else might have been there.

[Dennis]

Yeah

I get a feeling this is meant to be face tipsy but after another quiet night, you suggesting the cop claim now feels like ralphwiggimImInDanger.gif

Yeah I think it's a wee bit obvious I think I'm in danger. I said a couple posts before day end that I very much could've seen myself dying last night.

ok but what does that have to do with you suggesting cop claim now?

Why not tomorrow? Or the day after?

I think even tho we’ve mischopped thrice, we’re doing ok

What were you asking me? Because I saw you asking me if I thought I was in danger. Weren't you the one who said that last day we needed to get a kill?

Let’s back up.

I said “you must be nervous” in response to you posting “cop should claim”

As an indictment of faith. That statement comes off as nervous when we’ve had 2 doc saves.

So:
Why should doc claim today?

er, why should cop claim (my god I’m tired

Because we should already have 3 reads. That should be plenty, and going back for anymore would be getting risky. I'm more for 'take what we can get' rather than 'risk it for more'. Maybe that's me being new and not knowing how far someone could push it but It seems worth it to me.

[Scotty]

Hi @Vivax and @RondoDimBuckle

Welcome to Rivendell

who is bad

[Dennis]

It would make sense to hold off on roleclaiming if they were blocked by mafia, but then wouldn't the mafia just kill them if they knew who the town cop was? And then there's the idea that someone like Bea was town cop and she didn't submit it but I think that's unlikely. Or at least unlucky for town.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hey remember when I said don't consolidate on a wagon it's just gonna kill a town we need two competing wagons and than for the 2nd day in a ris we had a run away wagon kill a town.

Yeah i remember when I said that.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Thankfully doc is a hero or we'd be screwed.

Woofs probably don't need to panic yet but I do think that Dennis opening today looks bad. And Lucy hit on some things eod that were bothering me about Dennis yesterday that I was mostly ignoring.

[Scotty]

ok lying in bed now and looking back

@Roxy come back and play with me! I miss you

Gosh I have missed playing with you. We need to get our new Pirate game together!!

again no one engages while I'm here . Idk when I'll be back but sometime before elimination's end.

I feel this.
It’s honestly what always happens to me and then I get continually called out for low posting because everyone posts like crazy overnight for me

I would still get called out for low posting. Happens every time I play, every time I say this is the last time I'll play then Kate comes around begging the old gang to back together for a game and I get sucked in. WHOOSH!!!!!!!!!

Never again I mean it this time as I am so sick of people down on the way I play because I don't make a 100 posts a day saying:
XXXX Is a wolf
But this is my meta ask XXXX
When is eod
I'm cute
How old are you
Where in the *uck did you find those beets Dwight?
You dig?

FYI splints is not bad I will NOT vote for her.

****************************************************************************************

I am a low poster. I have never denied being a low poster. Being a low poster does mean I am not reading and keeping up.
Am am deffo not lhf as I consider myself more like a bunch of happy carrots. So I am more in the mud vegee's. imv for those of you who adore abbreviations.

The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread. We are all people with feelings this game can get heated ---------why add to it?

Takes one 'fn second to be kind people.

I will now finish re-reading make my post and call this done.

Questions/posts I noticed so far:

Scotty said I seemed aggressive which I find funny as I am imv. What exactly in a post can you point me at to show my "aggression"?

Neon - welcome but you obv haven't read as much as you say you have. I have never been on a wagon nor voted in this game yet. Had you actually read the thread (and not just my posts but the hosts as well) you would have seen I self voted D 1 bc of a robbery at my work. I host voted D 2 bc of the Host punishment of self voting was to lose my vote. But actually if you read any of my posts I clearly state suspicions. Sorry if you don't like my style and want to lynch me for being imv I am used to it. Happens all the time on this site. However I do like you info then analysis of the voting thus far. So thanks for doing the leg work on that.

I don’t know what imv means.

I think….and even looking at this post especially, your *tone* is what comes off as aggressive to me. It might be a difference in mistranslation of text not conveying the correct emotion but “The last day phase actually made me want to hurl and also made it so I do not want to even post in the thread. I am *trying* to get past all the awkwardness/weirdness/meaness in this supposed game thread” is pretty prickly and mildly passive aggressive at best.

I’m not condemning you for being emotional- that’s pretty human, and doesn’t make me think any less of you. If anything, I believe your frustration. Whether or not I think this is a frustrated civ feeling left out as a “bunch of happy carrots” as you call it or a wolf that is being suspected for unfair playstyle prosecution I don’t know.

But I’m not discounting you as civ. Not at all, and not because you’re a low poster

[Scotty]

What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?

lol

Well here’s where things went wrong:
Why did you remove Roxy and splints from contention just for showing up?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

D1:

Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy

Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty

Splints (1): Bea

Golden (1): Falcon

Roxy (1): Roxy





D2:

Sabi (7): Sean, Kate, Scotty, Golden, Mata, Lucy, SVS

Lucy (3): Splints, Dennis, Soneji

Golden (1): Sabi

Seanzie (1): Neon

Someji (1): Falcon






Day 3:

Soneji (6): Golden, Falcon, Lucy, SVS, Splints, Kate

Seanzie (2): Neon, Soneji

Splints (2): Scotty, Seanzie

Falcon (1): Dennis

Scotty (1): Roxy



Never had a vote on them by EoD (6): Bea, Dennis, Neon, Kate, Mata, SVS Falcon Scotty

People on Every Maj wagon (3): Golden, SVS, Lucy, Sean

People only on Wilgz (1): Dennis

People only on Sabi (3): Scotty, Mata, Soneji, Kate,

People on Sabi and Soneji (1): Kate

People only on Soneji (2): Falcon, Splints

People never on the Maj wagon (3): Neon, Bea, Roxy, Falcon


Here's info with no analysis. Vote me for it.

Anyways I did strike throughs on people who no longer fit the criteria who had previously.

[Kate]

What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?

lol

Well here’s where things went wrong:
Why did you remove Roxy and splints from contention just for showing up?

I felt rox was playing her civ game. She's angrier or "rougher" when she's mafia and there was enough ammo listed in her thread to make her mad. Based on that, I trusted her read of splints, who is her BFF.

[Kate]

Listed in her post. About the thread*

[Scotty]

What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?

I wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.

Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.

y’all have some weird tendencies with whether or not you’ll vote for someone. Sounds like I should go hiking every day phase (yes, I do appreciate you not voting me for no reason, which is exactly what it would be. It’s still a lolworthy reason not to vote me)

Golden, there are several ways you’ve gone about these chops over the past few days that want me to push you out of the towncore, but I’m having a hard time expressing those specifics. You get so caught up here in making sure Seanzie doesn’t die it feels like you’re willing to just vote wherever the wind takes you.

This is my perception as I’m reading back. This might change as I continue reading

[Scotty]

What do you think of this list?

Falcon
Splints
Neon
Mata
Rox
Scotty
Soneji

I think that list is everyone who could be wolf unless I’ve been properly pocketed.

Ok so if we give some credence to Rox showing up and posting, we temporarily remove rox and splints. I'm not crazy about voting Neon. And I know Mata has been very sick so I'm not comfortable going there today.

That leaves:

Scotty
Soneji and
Falcon.

What do you think of that list?

I wouldn’t eliminate scotty today, especially with him hiking.

Id happily elim soneji or Falcon. But I’m prioritising not letting Sean get elimmed.

Let's do it

[VOTE: Soneji] aubergine

meh

[Scotty]

I think the lesson I am going to learn from this game is fuck contributing

I can just post nothing all game read the thread so nothing randomly exclaim someone town is a wolf lie about it till the thread believes me even though I've done nothing all game and still be town read and hard defended

But when you put in effort and bother to analyze its meaningless.

I appreciate the effort

[Scotty]

Ok. I'm moving my vote to [VOTE: soneji] aubergine

Thoughts?

I disagree. I've agreed with a lot of what Soneji has said and most of the time it feels like there's a civ motivation. Since we seemingly have left it up to Soneji and Falcon, I'm gonna [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

I don’t hate this vote

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Sonej] aubergine

podracing

i've revised my stance though, i'm fine with a seanzie/scotty vote and i refuse to vote for svs/golden

meh