Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[Vivax]

Oh yeah you‘re voting FS too.
Self vote was fake?
Guess I‘ll have to read after all >=|

[Scotty]

I don’t think most people would consider using personal friendship to emotional manipulate an example of good gameplay.

I’m not trying to make you feel guilty.

Breaks OP rules but not etiquette rules. I like it.
Omgusing this for you.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

What about Seanzie is sus to you?

He‘s voting FS.
I wouldn‘t vote FS with what I‘ve seen.
Do you think I shouldn‘t be sus of Sean, conversely ?

What specifically have you seen from FS that doesn’t merit voting there?

[Seanzie]

I'd elim Golden here.

[Scotty]

I'd elim Golden here.

Well.

That’s a departure from Golden’s theory

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

[Kate]

I'd elim Golden here.

Well.

That’s a departure from Golden’s theory

For real?

[Scotty]

I'd elim Golden here.

Well.

That’s a departure from Golden’s theory

For real?

Why would Seanzie, the doctor that supposedly saved Golden on N2, ever be voting Golden here

[Kate]

I'd elim Golden here.

Well.

That’s a departure from Golden’s theory

For real?

Why would Seanzie, the doctor that supposedly saved Golden on N2, ever be voting Golden here

That's why I was momentarily stunned. Wondered if it was one of those, 'hey just kiddin you know me' votes you guys do.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[Seanzie]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

I'll give you 5 guesses to figure out why I said what I said.

[Scotty]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

Nothing about Seanzie’s game has made sense.

It reads as a sheep wearing wolf’s clothing while also cosplaying as a badger

[Kate]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

I'll give you 5 guesses to figure out why I said what I said.

I hope that one day I understand your gameplay, as it's nothing if not interesting. You are always an enigma

[Scotty]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

I'll give you 5 guesses to figure out why I said what I said.

I hope that one day I understand your gameplay, as it's nothing if not interesting. You are always an enigma

At least he’s not an enema

I heard those are all the rage

[Seanzie]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

Nothing about Seanzie’s game has made sense.

It reads as a sheep wearing wolf’s clothing while also cosplaying as a badger

[Kate]

Seanzie says that but is voting Splints

I'll give you 5 guesses to figure out why I said what I said.

I hope that one day I understand your gameplay, as it's nothing if not interesting. You are always an enigma

At least he’s not an enema

I heard those are all the rage

[Vivax]

The odds that there is at least one mafia in the cascio fam is >50%

Same odds for any three players picked at random but hey, statistics.

I have no teammates.

I was hoping to be bad, just to have someone to talk to lol

Me: I’m phoning it in, but WHY IS NO OKE TALKING IM BORED HERE

This is a scummy post in context considering how hilarious the preceding convo was.

Golden could be a very understimulated person or mafia who wanted to appear over the top eager.

[falcon45ca]

The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.

I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.

I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.

I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

I have almost no recollection of anything Wilgy did this game. You're asking the wrong person.

Pure self pres then?


So, Golden and/or Marmot is one of the last SRs you gave...still true?

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

Is there anything about their play beyond WKing that leads you to belive Golden is Maf?

I don't remember a single thing about them aside from feeling like they are overconfidently/unusually townreading me. It started like early too.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Still worried I’m WKing you?

Perpetually.

Why?

Approach to Seanzie feels like someone who understands day one more through wolfchat than thread to me

CONTAINMENT

Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.

Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?

He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.

--------------------------------

IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.

@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Let's start down this road and see what comes.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

[VOTE: splints] aubergine

I’ve been flirting with it for a while

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

No one pressured this. Why'd you vote splints?

Why would someone need pressure to do something?

I'm sheeping Golden.

Thank you for spelling this out.

So you think that since Seanzie was sheeping you coming into D3, you were saved by him. Gotcha.

Plausible I guess

Also seems like something Maf could easily do, seeing their kill didn't go thru, and then they can fake it

So you’re saying Golden has been bamboozled by Seanzie

Why does sean Doc save a SR?

[Golden]

The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.

I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.

I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.

I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Why is Wilgy Maf?

I have almost no recollection of anything Wilgy did this game. You're asking the wrong person.

Pure self pres then?


So, Golden and/or Marmot is one of the last SRs you gave...still true?

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

Pure self pres then?


So, Golden and/or Marmot is one of the last SRs you gave...still true?

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

Is there anything about their play beyond WKing that leads you to belive Golden is Maf?

I don't remember a single thing about them aside from feeling like they are overconfidently/unusually townreading me. It started like early too.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Still worried I’m WKing you?

Perpetually.

I could vote soneji independent of my sabi read.

Why?

Approach to Seanzie feels like someone who understands day one more through wolfchat than thread to me

CONTAINMENT

Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.

Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?

He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.

--------------------------------

IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.

@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Let's start down this road and see what comes.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

[VOTE: splints] aubergine

I’ve been flirting with it for a while

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

No one pressured this. Why'd you vote splints?

Why would someone need pressure to do something?

I'm sheeping Golden.

Thank you for spelling this out.

So you think that since Seanzie was sheeping you coming into D3, you were saved by him. Gotcha.

Plausible I guess

Also seems like something Maf could easily do, seeing their kill didn't go thru, and then they can fake it

This is a terrible plan. The doctor can rumble this.

[Golden]

I'd elim Golden here.

Well this is quite something.

[Golden]

At the moment I expect Seanzie is upset with my post and look, I get it. SVS is too.

[Vivax]

At the moment I expect Seanzie is upset with my post and look, I get it. SVS is too.

Wdym by upset. That's not an emotion that should influence decision making process though it's quite popular as of late.

[S~V~S]

Not upset, confused. I don’t understand the purpose of such a post.

[Golden]

At the moment I expect Seanzie is upset with my post and look, I get it. SVS is too.

Wdym by upset. That's not an emotion that should influence decision making process though it's quite popular as of late.

Old school etiquette would say that I should never make the post I did about what I believe is evidence I was protected, because it paints a target for the mafia on who to kill.

My take is that this is appropriate in survive-to-win vote conditions, but that in ‘can win when dead’ games the rule should be different.

I can understand if I’m right but Seanzie, who in my view has played very well, feels like I’ve done something to compromise his game.

[falcon45ca]

The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.

I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.

I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.

I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

I have almost no recollection of anything Wilgy did this game. You're asking the wrong person.

Pure self pres then?


So, Golden and/or Marmot is one of the last SRs you gave...still true?

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

Is there anything about their play beyond WKing that leads you to belive Golden is Maf?

I don't remember a single thing about them aside from feeling like they are overconfidently/unusually townreading me. It started like early too.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Still worried I’m WKing you?

Perpetually.

Why?

Approach to Seanzie feels like someone who understands day one more through wolfchat than thread to me

CONTAINMENT

Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.

Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?

He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.

--------------------------------

IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.

@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Let's start down this road and see what comes.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

[VOTE: splints] aubergine

I’ve been flirting with it for a while

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

No one pressured this. Why'd you vote splints?

Why would someone need pressure to do something?

I'm sheeping Golden.

Thank you for spelling this out.

So you think that since Seanzie was sheeping you coming into D3, you were saved by him. Gotcha.

Plausible I guess

Also seems like something Maf could easily do, seeing their kill didn't go thru, and then they can fake it

This is a terrible plan. The doctor can rumble this.

They don't need to explicitly state that's why, it could be assumed, as you've done.



Why does Doc Sean save you, one of his SR's?

[Golden]

Not upset, confused. I don’t understand the purpose of such a post.

How so?

[Golden]

The story of how I am certain I was the nightkill target.

I apologise for outing the doctor. I think you're outed anyway, because I think the mafia tried to kill you last night. Hope I'm right, I profusely apologise if you hate me for doing this.

I feel like Marmot and/or Golden are WKing me.

I guess Golden is probably more likely mafia WKing me since Marmot actually knows me well enough to have a townread on me.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Pure self pres then?


So, Golden and/or Marmot is one of the last SRs you gave...still true?

I think Golden is possibly WKing me, yes. Not such a strong read to not vote in the same place as they though. Marmot feels okay.

Is there anything about their play beyond WKing that leads you to belive Golden is Maf?

I don't remember a single thing about them aside from feeling like they are overconfidently/unusually townreading me. It started like early too.

[VOTE: Golden] aubergine

Still worried I’m WKing you?

Perpetually.

Approach to Seanzie feels like someone who understands day one more through wolfchat than thread to me

CONTAINMENT

Robbie woke up to the sounds of morning life on the street. The light gradually crept into and spread across the room as he nursed his hangover with bananas and coffee. He stretched for a few minutes to work out the kinks from another night on a mattress that wouldn’t even cut it at a Motel 6 back home.

Once his head stopped pounding enough, he collected himself, took a piss, and pulled his money out of the nightstand. A good breakfast would do him wonders. It felt safe enough to venture out. Despite the hangover, the night was uneventful. That had to be a good sign, right?

He tied his shoes, put on his sunglasses, and opened the door. He couldn’t wait to get out of this place, but right now fresh air and a warm meal was all that was on the menu.

--------------------------------

IT IS NOW DAY 3. YOU HAVE 48 HOURS TO ELIMINATE SOMEONE.

@Seanzie, what do you think of my thoughts so far today. Do you think I'm looking in the right directions, generally speaking?

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

Let's start down this road and see what comes.

[VOTE: Matahari] aubergine

[VOTE: splints] aubergine

I’ve been flirting with it for a while

[VOTE: Fingersplints] aubergine

No one pressured this. Why'd you vote splints?

Why would someone need pressure to do something?

I'm sheeping Golden.

Thank you for spelling this out.

So you think that since Seanzie was sheeping you coming into D3, you were saved by him. Gotcha.

Plausible I guess

Also seems like something Maf could easily do, seeing their kill didn't go thru, and then they can fake it

This is a terrible plan. The doctor can rumble this.

They don't need to explicitly state that's why, it could be assumed, as you've done.

Why does Doc Sean save you, one of his SR's?

I dunno. But he did.

[Golden]

Chances of a Sean wolf going ‘you know what, i can use this as an opportunity to pocket golden’ and putting down doctor threads for me to see are astronomical. It’s far too risky.

The doctor dying would refute it.

It’s a million percent more likely that Sean just happened to sharply change his read and I misjudged why than that he’s deliberately wolf-pocketing me.

[Golden]

Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

[S~V~S]

Not upset, confused. I don’t understand the purpose of such a post.

How so?

Your philosophizing about win conditions and what they mean to how specific roles are treated is lovely.

But if you are even right, I don’t see how the town benefits from this.

[Golden]

Not upset, confused. I don’t understand the purpose of such a post.

How so?

Your philosophizing about win conditions and what they mean to how specific roles are treated is lovely.

But if you are even right, I don’t see how the town benefits from this.

I don’t understand

[Golden]

You don’t think the town benefits from getting strong civs to stop tinfoiling other civs?

[Kate]

My misunderstanding is even more basic.

I don't see anything in roles that's explains how you could possibly KNOW you were protected. @Golden

[Golden]

My misunderstanding is even more basic.

I don't see anything in roles that's explains how you could possibly KNOW you were protected. @Golden

The posts by Seanzie did the work to tell me.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

One theory I've been playing around with is... well is that Golden is mafia Sean is not and Golden is trying to get doc to CC.

I don't think I necessarily believe that though.

[Kate]

What is Cc?

[Golden]

One theory I've been playing around with is... well is that Golden is mafia Sean is not and Golden is trying to get doc to CC.

I don't think I necessarily believe that though.

I made that post because you were tunnelling and wouldn’t listen or try to see. I was really trying to get you out of the tunnel.

[Golden]

What is Cc?

Counterclaim.

The doctor can’t counterclaim though, nor can Seanzie confirm. All that can happen is that the thread state shifts.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

: insert gif of pokemon character sipping tea here :

[Golden]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

While everyone else is like ‘wtf’, he’s calmly laying out a countercase the mafia have had time to think about,

[Golden]

Neon, regardless of whether you believe me I hope you recognise the fact I made the post as a sign of respect for how good a player I think you are and damn I hope you’re town.

[Vivax]

Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I moved my vote silentlythat's y

[Golden]

Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?

Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.

Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.

As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.

[Golden]

I don’t know why scotty is voting me

[Vivax]

Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?

Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.

Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.

As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.

So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?

Gonna backread in the meantime.

[Golden]

Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?

Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.

Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.

As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.

So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?

Gonna backread in the meantime.

Well I think you are

But assuming you’re not - from most scummy tier to least

Roxy, Falcon (also the tier where I have you)

Fingersplints, scotty

Lucy, neon

And maybe the most tinfoil of tinfoil, a very outside shot it’s rondo and bea fooled me.

I’m fully excluding Kate, svs, Dennis and Sean.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Roxy is town.

[Dennis]

Three wagons of two and they’re all on town. This day is pretty shit so far.

I see two of two unless you include the Disco.
What's making you so sure that Seanzie is town to the point of frustration?

Neon just took a ghost vote off Dennis and put it elsewhere.

Seanzie has been under fire literally every day this entire game for reasons that I thought were shit before day 3, and that I think are even more shit now that i believe he’s the doctor.

As the only person I feel I can confirm town with 100% certainty I’m determined to use my vote to keep him alive. Problematic when I’m the counterwagon.

So if Dennis, Seanzie, you are all town and this day isn't going swimmingly...
Who's scum? Why are they town?

Gonna backread in the meantime.

Well I think you are

But assuming you’re not - from most scummy tier to least

Roxy, Falcon (also the tier where I have you)

Fingersplints, scotty

Lucy, neon

And maybe the most tinfoil of tinfoil, a very outside shot it’s rondo and bea fooled me.

I’m fully excluding Kate, svs, Dennis and Sean.

What about Scotty?

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

While everyone else is like ‘wtf’, he’s calmly laying out a countercase the mafia have had time to think about,

Oh, he got me.