Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[nutella]

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

[santygrass]

I can see what you mean with the player equity, but I disagree with the tutuu kill helping to point that out fwiw

[Ranmilia]

How do I easily quote multiple posts on this website.

[santygrass]

With the bubbles button that is on the side of the quotation marks

[santygrass]

Tho I dont think it appears while ISOimg, so what I do in a ISO is
> Jump to post in a new window
> Multiquote button
> Close Window
> Repeat first step.until Im done

[Ranmilia]

I tried that but it didn't persist and only quoted one. Mwaf. Anyway just- like I said look through his ISO, it's wolfy. It's not a long read, if you don't see it then I don't know that me pulling more things out is going to help.

[santygrass]

@DrWilgy can you summarize me your reads this game? And what made you vote hk yesterday cuz I didnt fully get it

[nutella]

@ilario @Ranmilia can you tell me why the votes on DrWilg ?

Check out his ISO and posting times. Wilgy is 2 for 2 now on showing up at EOD with a wolfy snipe vote, keeping his head down otherwise. I suspected him early on d2 as that was the exact pattern I expected from some mafia on d1, then no one talked about him and we all got sidetracked, then he did it again EOD2.

He's given no particular analysis or content, just a couple of toss-in reads with no justification, and his posts read wolfy to me. The "ooh, why is Santy showing up to save HK?" and "Real weird thread momentum this EoD." are very typical wolf posts in my eyes.

There's significant real player equity there given the d2 wagons and the fact that mafia killed Tutuu, and I don't think it's town equity.

oh ok

i get it

[nutella]

the mq button works in my experience not sure why it wouldnt

[nutella]

since santy kindly posted a full list i will actually make an effort to roughly sort it

[santygrass]

I agree with the timings being wolfy , the content too.
But I think their vote on hk amd the kill being tuutuu are a 'good look'. Because they would have 'player numbers' on the winning wagon already and not so much reason to think that the hk wagon had much more players.
So in that scenario going for the scouted player seems more safe.

In a scenario when mafia wasnt in the lead wagons or was in my wagon, I think the player equity of the hk wagon is higher and is more likely to mafia to ignore their scout

At least that is what I think.
Unless ris was nked and tutuu deleted? Wowee

[santygrass]

But I dont think tuutuu semed like a deleter target aaa idk

[santygrass]

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

Fwiw I think Neon is likely a player but dont have any reason to lean into any alignment asofrn on them.
If you have any read there I'll gladly take it into consideration

[santygrass]

[Marmot]

C4
Chelsea
Creature
DeZees
DrWilg
Dyslexicon
Ender
Falcon
G-Man
Guillo
Hally
Iaafr
Ilario
Inawy
Jack
Jjj
Katze
Lily
Lumi
Manny
Marmot
Michelle
Nanook
Neon
Nutella
Porscha
Pyxyy
Ranmilia
Ricochet
Rondo
Santy
Scotty
Seanzie
Schiavetto
Silverkeith
Sloonei
Sprityo
Vivax


Think this is the list of remaining slots rn

As the person who is in charge of keeping track of players meeting the post count minimum, I can confirm that this is the current living playerlist.

[Marmot]

@tutuu we miss you!! That kill is fucked up.

[nutella]

C4 - outed npc
Chelsea - likely npc
Creature - town?
DeeZees - player, null
DrWilgy - wolf?
Dyslexicon - town
Ender - town pass for now
Falcon - null
G-Man - tbh gonna say town
Guillo - npc
Hally - npc
Iaafr - npc
Ilario - player, null
IAWY - town?
Jack - town?
Jjj - npc
Katze - npc
Lily - null
Lumi - modbot
Manny - town
Marmot - mod
Michelle - town atp
Nanook - town
Neon - slight wolf
Nutella - town:)
Porscha - slight town
Pyxxy - null
Ranmilia - npc but town
Ricochet - kinda wolfy
Rondo - town for now ig
Santy - town
Scotty - town
Seanzie - wolfy
Schiavetto - wolfy
Silverkeith - town npc
Sloonei - npc
Sprityo - null
Vivax - dadaist sage


def still far from able to narrow down pl and a lot are pretty null without looking into isos but here are some snap reads a few of which might be based on anything

[Marmot]

I see nutella has a godread on me

[Marmot]

Are there any wolves I can simp for?

Where do I apply?

(I will also simp for town if no wolves respond to me)

[Marmot]

Ok hit my minimum for Day 3, might be back later.

[nutella]

I read Neon's iso, thought maybe Neon/Porscha town and Lily wolf, then opened wilgy's iso and saw this

Porscha is town of porscha is playing

agree

*Shows up*

*Agrees*

*Leaves*

Lmao

and maybe neon/porscha are wolves with him and just yoloing in thread


lol

idk

something is up

[nutella]

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

yeah ok

[nutella]

he also talks about whether porscha has a volume or vibe tell later idk the vibes are that Something Is Up

[Michelle]

Ranmila misinterpreted my posts and game intention in the case she made against me.

I read overnight my own Iso. There is no way someone could see it as a refusal to help town and stuff she said.

Not to mention in the game are many players blatantly refusing interactions, reads, posting, and yet she only saw me as antitown and disrespectful. Later she brushed off this saying 'we' wagon Ender now..

Now, I read Wilgy's Iso. His way of posting is always scummy so he is mischopped a lot. What is 'generally wolfy' or 'generally towny' doesn't match with his play.
I gave myself a reason for him to be town and the Eod post ranmila said is wolfy is NaI.

I start to doubt Ranmila make the cases in good faith so i retract my previous town read.


I see Nut voted Wilgy. Why @nutella ?

[nutella]

the reasons ran gave in 4347 about his eod popins and stuff and i also opened his iso myself and thought some stuff was sketchy as said above re porscha mentions

[nutella]

also ilario is probably town?

[Michelle]

the reasons ran gave in 4347 about his eod popins and stuff and i also opened his iso myself and thought some stuff was sketchy as said above re porscha mentions

Why isn't that vibe read from a town or npc?

[Michelle]

I don't think I saw you so happy to sheep someone instead making your own reads Nut

[nutella]

Now, I read Wilgy's Iso. His way of posting is always scummy so he is mischopped a lot. What is 'generally wolfy' or 'generally towny' doesn't match with his play.
I gave myself a reason for him to be town and the Eod post ranmila said is wolfy is NaI.

i understand this pov and am cautious about wilgy/thought he could just be town in his particular weird way but i definitely see where ran is coming from, the eod stuff and the way he's stated reads feels like it can come from a position of tmi

dont be fooled just bc he was defending you and scotty, it looked like it might be agendaed posturing

[nutella]

I don't think I saw you so happy to sheep someone instead making your own reads Nut

fucking 50 player mash ass game i can do what ever the fuck i want and i read the iso myself anyway which is the most effort ive given in the game so far so shut the fuck up please holy shit

[nutella]

you have been nothing but rude and dismissive all game i have a fucking life i am not putting effort into this until it's reasonable to do so

[nutella]

i will not be interacting with you further because i only get frustrated with your tone and approach but i think you are town. maybe we can reach some agreements on reads eventually

[nutella]

i am frustrated for reasons that do not belong in the game thread, sorry for yelling

[nutella]

there should not be any votes on nanook please @iaafr @Manny @Michelle i trust all of you but do not think that is a good choice.

[nutella]

and @Scotty ig

[nutella]

we let nanook live til endgame to be the schrodinger's town thorn in my side that is simply the way of things

[santygrass]

there should not be any votes on nanook please @iaafr @Manny @Michelle i trust all of you but do not think that is a good choice.

[santygrass]

Oops. I agree.
I think Ran read of nook has a good point and Im okay with leaving nanook be tbh

[Hally]

michelle and nut, neither of you are wolves

[Vivax]

I‘ll sheep nutella, seems to be the most informed in certain aspects and she’s coming in swinging I like that. Can understand Santy‘s frustration but he‘ll come around (going for a townread atm). Or maybe skill issue.

Only partially unlocked/witnessed three abilities so far el oh el. Maybe four.

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[Hally]

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

this is fine

likely player and not villagery afaict

[Manny]

I miss manny

im always alive on the hearts of the people

[Manny]

there should not be any votes on nanook please @iaafr @Manny @Michelle i trust all of you but do not think that is a good choice.

My vote doesnt actually count and its mostly there as a joke, idk about rabbit and michelle.

[Ranmilia]

Do Not Wish To Yeet (no particular order, copying things around from alphabetical list)
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C4 - no content, claimed NPC and willingness to self-cull, I'll believe it for today
Chelsea - scumread Michelle, wagoned d1, little presence otherwise. Some wolf equity, more NPC equity, not someone I'm interested in today.
Creature - actively playing, can trace his thoughts decently, town in my eyes.
Ender - Taking the claim at face value for today.
Guillo - Pretty obviously NPC and I think the scattered thoughts he's given are protown, but if he's alive tomorrow then sure w/e always oblige a self voter.
Iaafr - Not a wolf.
Ilario - I've vibed with his thoughts. Like that he went straight on Wilgy today before I got in thread.
Jack - Actively playing, has some wolf equity but no desire to vote here today.
Katze - Semi actively playing. I've liked their thoughts. Don't see a reason to push.
Jjj - 0 content minposter, presumed NPC, probably doesn't make those kills. KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY IF HE'S ALIVE ON DAY 8 though.
Lumi - claimed NPC, made a vote script, good enough for now.
Manny - See Guillo but is less loud about the self vote.
Marmot - is cohost.
Nanook - Doesn't make those kills and lurk with 0 content, in my eyes. Revisit if he's alive lategame.
Nutella - Semi actively playing, don't see a reason to push.
Ranmilia - Anata no, terebi ni, Jika-netto Ranmilia! Mi-n-na no, yoku no tomo~!
Santy - Taking claim and townyness at face value for today, given Manny's retraction and his increased presence.
Scotty - Still townread this given events and eod positioning and knowledge of my own alignment, will take the L if wrong. Maybe I should say I scumread him to reverse psychology people into defending him.
Silverkeith - is sheeping me, which is the right and good move for town to win
Sloonei - see JJJ but with more protown equity. Still kill if alive on day 8.

:fryeyes: Zone
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DeZees - hasn't done much. I don't have much of a read here, looking at others to weigh in.
Dyslexicon - Some concern, didn't seem very horny. Don't think I want to go here today though.
G-Man - Near 0 content, but created an ISO list which earns him survival for now.
Hally - Pretty obviously NPC but if they're not... well, our playstyles don't mesh well and I haven't liked their takes. Not a push for today though.
Vivax - Evasively low content, wouldn't hate pushing here. Does seem to be playing the game though.

Would Vote Zone
---
Falcon - 0 content minposter. Shrugze.
Inawy - Showed up yesterday and then didn't take up my offer to participate at all, no objections to pushing here.
Lilypetal - 0 content, claimed wolf, on the shortlist for slots I want to kill.
Porscha - Very little content. In the recent MU Hydra Game 3 I was able to easily find the lilypetal/porscha hydra as town by mid day 1 from spec chat, even though the thread consensus wolfread them. In this game I do not find much townyness in either of them. Hence they make my to-kill list.
DrWilg - Fits the top profile of what I'm looking for as a wolf
Michelle - Several people I trust as decent players, including two dead (though fairly quiet NPCs) have called her wolf. She started playing more yesterday but I'm not particularly sold. I don't enjoy people getting mad though so I don't plan to actively push there today.
Neon - No real content. Vibes more NPC to me but no objections to voting here.
Pyxyy - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting.
Ricochet - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting. The "voted Sloonei" shield has expired with the revelation that mafia can't find real players.
Seanzie - 0 content minposter, tutuu died actively scumreading, #respectthedead
Schiavetto - 0 content, wolfy poppins, eminently yeetable
Sprityo - 0 content minposter, the "voted Radishes" shield is mostly expired

[Ranmilia]

Reading what I missed while making that I see nutella posted the same list and is also tilted, sending ghosthugs

[nutella]

yeah i vibe entirely with that sort except would put michelle dizzy and hally in top section

[Hally]

been working on my own list just for myself and it’s pretty similar except for michelle

[Ranmilia]

Reminder to not take my scumreads personally, you're all wonderful.

LGBT Mafia never forget though. Squeeze Hally until the kaomoji appears.

[Ranmilia]

I think there is scum activity *around* Michelle for sure. It may not be Michelle herself, there are a lot of possibilities still, Ender could be running the fake claim etc etc. Probably not something we're dealing with today. But just saying.

Would really love to hear from Nanook and the other people who actively scumread Michelle in the earlygame though. The troublesome thing about that is that several of them have died or claimed NPC so the "townreads Michelle" faction has dominated threadspace lately. Not that I regret killing HK but really wish he'd posted more.

[Ranmilia]

Then again, I'm still alive, so that is another point in favor of Michelle herself.