Lawyers, Guns and Money- [TOWN WINS!]

[Scotty]

Ebwop because that means they let two people go relatively easily.

Assuming Lucy flips bad we all have to reevaluate our reads and why we’re townreading the people we are.

Yeah I’m not looking too much into it yet, but my updated values of potential pairings are Golden and Dennis.

Golden is adaptable, but he’s just playing so differently than when he snowed town last game. Dennis I have literally no basis for reading, and as I said in like D1- he’s probably going to the endgame regardless of his alignment

Let it snow let it snow let it snow… a deepwolf would be seasonal.

Holy crap I just had to comment that I read this comment and immediately Let it Snow just started playing on the radio in the Subway I’m in right now. What are the odds

[Golden]

Ebwop because that means they let two people go relatively easily.

Assuming Lucy flips bad we all have to reevaluate our reads and why we’re townreading the people we are.

Yeah I’m not looking too much into it yet, but my updated values of potential pairings are Golden and Dennis.

Golden is adaptable, but he’s just playing so differently than when he snowed town last game. Dennis I have literally no basis for reading, and as I said in like D1- he’s probably going to the endgame regardless of his alignment

Let it snow let it snow let it snow… a deepwolf would be seasonal.

Holy crap I just had to comment that I read this comment and immediately Let it Snow just started playing on the radio in the Subway I’m in right now. What are the odds

Don’t mistake coincidence for fate.

[Golden]

Also that’s an ironic song to be on in the subway, isn’t it. Unless you mean the sandwich shop.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I actually really like neon/Scotty so much atm I am going to do a reread of d1 tomorrow with that in mind.

I think I have settled my worldview

thanks for nothing

Honestly, your idea of a deepwolf is not a bad idea, because the odds are probably pretty good of such, but voting one of the possible deep wolves and HITTING is an absolute crapshoot.

I would chew on Golden’s hat if one of falcon/Lucy is not wolf. They could both be, I’m just more confident about Lucy

Thanks for nothing or thanks for noting?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.

I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.

Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out

Neon > Golden > Dennis

would be my order but that is because of how Neon has been positioning around Lucy.
golden is where I would yeet him but I would skip him straight to Dennis because of the Seanzie shield if you get what I mean (Neon > Dennis > Golden)

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.

I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.

Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out

My deepwolves would be Dennis, rondo.

I’m not really in on any world where neon is wolf. And I do believe she is within ‘wolf range’ although I think her self-reason for saying she isn’t is probably genuine.

Call this a ‘golden spotting a kindred spirit’ read. I have more confidence in that, than I have in Kate’s read of Dennis, and that’s saying something because I am putting a lot of weight on Kate’s read of Dennis.

Hahah you think if I wanted to deep wolf I wouldnt just eat the Bea town read and just slank and not call out lucy so hard as I did for hitting 0 of her town notes? Think again buddy, take your wifom back to the wifom store

[Scotty]

Also that’s an ironic song to be on in the subway, isn’t it. Unless you mean the sandwich shop.

sandwich place. Most of the ‘music’ on the subway is like…captive audience ‘show time’ clapping dancecrews (which is the absolute worst), mariachi bands, karaoke with big amps on station platforms or some guy preaching about the end of days

[RondoDimBuckle]

I say we flashwagon Dennis.

[VOTE: Dennis ] aubergine

lol

no

This is interesting, considering he is counterwagon at the time

[RondoDimBuckle]

And goddamn it THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!!!!!

my favorite post in this game, may be a new signature <3[

If it's ok S~V~S?/OT]
Reading..... going to miss Kate/ Batman this game. I have so few in my trust circle.

Trust me, lets wagon you

[RondoDimBuckle]

Back on topic:

Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’

What can I do with that?

I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.

With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.

As in write us off as not partnerable or super paternerable?

Because i thats the case I am ok with this pool of yeetables if you are willing to put your own name in as well

[RondoDimBuckle]

Busy today… not to say I won’t be here at all, but I don’t know exactly when…

So, a legacy rainbow.

People I would not elim short of the cop showing up with a red peek

SVS
Fingersplints
Roxy
Seanzie

People who could reasonably be deepwolves, but I’d only consider closer to lylo

Dennis
Rondo

If Lucy flips town, he’s worth another look

Neon
Scotty

Wolves unless the cop comes in with a green peek

Lucy
Falcon

Lucy could easily be up a tier with Scotty, but in my mind if we elim within those three and cop/deputy manage a peek within the other two we’re in good shape. I wouldn’t elim Scotty today though, he’s definitely a tier above Lucy in that sense.

EBWOP otherwise I mostly agree

[RondoDimBuckle]

Back on topic:

Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’

What can I do with that?

I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.

With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.

If Lucy a bad her partner is Falcon honestly I don’t know what is with everyone wanting to clear Falcon for terrible reasons.

I want to clear falcon for terrible reasons because I have suspected him a lot for terrible reasons and been wrong.

I will note Falcon has kinda wilted and given up this second half of day phase. I think he does that because between him and lucy a wolf is going and so he is done with the game because either way both wolves are in the poe of yeetables and game is mechanically over

[RondoDimBuckle]

Back on topic:

Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’

What can I do with that?

I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.

With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.

If Lucy a bad her partner is Falcon honestly I don’t know what is with everyone wanting to clear Falcon for terrible reasons.

I want to clear falcon for terrible reasons because I have suspected him a lot for terrible reasons and been wrong.

I can’t really ask/tell anyone what to do with their powers but boy do I hope Falcon gets copped if he isn’t elimmed today.

I have a feeling this will happen

[Seanzie]

I say we flashwagon Dennis.

[VOTE: Dennis ] aubergine

lol

no

This is interesting, considering he is counterwagon at the time

Oops, I forgot to vote with you.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I say we flashwagon Dennis.

[VOTE: Dennis ] aubergine

lol

no

This is interesting, considering he is counterwagon at the time

Oops, I forgot to vote with you.

Thats ok you're here in spirit

[RondoDimBuckle]

Back on topic:

Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’

What can I do with that?

I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.

With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.

Why do you think her partner is on her already? And, if Lucy flips town how does that change this?

The only person in my PoE on Lucy right now is Splints.

It makes sense for her partner to be involved with bussing her for cred at this point. Otherwise, they’re just a hanging dingleberry for endgame.

I mean, of course if Lucy is town this changes things. I’d still lean falcon as the scum if not lucy. Though that would leave another most likely deep wolf, but different interactions and different confidences for potential deep wolves.

It also sounds like Neon has been setting up ‘if Lucy flips town, Scotty is wolf’ so hopefully we won’t have to deal with that bullsuit, but I’m for sure apparently a potential deepwolf for pushing townlucy

See this is pinging me because we have 2 yeets to find a wolf, if Lucy is town going for another low hanging fruit is just wasting two yeets we get for free but also I get it, people are probably voting Lucy/Falcon in lylo.

Roxy is going to have to turnt up for her to not go into that pool for me but people keep shielding so I will just live with the fact I dont like this slot atm

[Golden]

I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.

I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.

Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out

My deepwolves would be Dennis, rondo.

I’m not really in on any world where neon is wolf. And I do believe she is within ‘wolf range’ although I think her self-reason for saying she isn’t is probably genuine.

Call this a ‘golden spotting a kindred spirit’ read. I have more confidence in that, than I have in Kate’s read of Dennis, and that’s saying something because I am putting a lot of weight on Kate’s read of Dennis.

Hahah you think if I wanted to deep wolf I wouldnt just eat the Bea town read and just slank and not call out lucy so hard as I did for hitting 0 of her town notes? Think again buddy, take your wifom back to the wifom store

I am very clear that I don’t think there is a deepwolf in this game.

[RondoDimBuckle]

[VOTE: Rondo ] aubergine

[Golden]

Busy today… not to say I won’t be here at all, but I don’t know exactly when…

So, a legacy rainbow.

People I would not elim short of the cop showing up with a red peek

SVS
Fingersplints
Roxy
Seanzie

People who could reasonably be deepwolves, but I’d only consider closer to lylo

Dennis
Rondo

If Lucy flips town, he’s worth another look

Neon
Scotty

Wolves unless the cop comes in with a green peek

Lucy
Falcon

Lucy could easily be up a tier with Scotty, but in my mind if we elim within those three and cop/deputy manage a peek within the other two we’re in good shape. I wouldn’t elim Scotty today though, he’s definitely a tier above Lucy in that sense.

EBWOP otherwise I mostly agree

Nope.

[Golden]

You’re welcome to your own rainbow list but I will not touch neon without someone red peeking.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’ll look to expand on this, but since we’re playing Nostradamus with preflipping people, I think most likely deepwolves if Lucy is bad are, in order:
Dennis > Golden > Neon.

I think Neon is a streeeetch because even though she says she has had to hard defend her wolfmates before, this is laying it on a bit too thick to be compatible.

Dennis is someone that continues to echo my thoughts and most reads in this game and its bugging me out

My deepwolves would be Dennis, rondo.

I’m not really in on any world where neon is wolf. And I do believe she is within ‘wolf range’ although I think her self-reason for saying she isn’t is probably genuine.

Call this a ‘golden spotting a kindred spirit’ read. I have more confidence in that, than I have in Kate’s read of Dennis, and that’s saying something because I am putting a lot of weight on Kate’s read of Dennis.

Hahah you think if I wanted to deep wolf I wouldnt just eat the Bea town read and just slank and not call out lucy so hard as I did for hitting 0 of her town notes? Think again buddy, take your wifom back to the wifom store

I am very clear that I don’t think there is a deepwolf in this game.

I sure hope there isnt because you are going to look bad if Lucy/Falcon is gone and the game isnt over. But youll probably be dead by then

[Golden]

Back on topic:

Lucy is in finals week right now, which explains her absence, but has had enough wherewithal to post a few snarky one-liners today like:
‘You’re not allowed to post when dead’
‘I can’t read’
‘Neon is scum’

What can I do with that?

I think Lucy is bad and her partner is probably already voting her.

With bad lucy, I’d be willing to write off Neon, Rondo and falcon.

If Lucy a bad her partner is Falcon honestly I don’t know what is with everyone wanting to clear Falcon for terrible reasons.

I want to clear falcon for terrible reasons because I have suspected him a lot for terrible reasons and been wrong.

I will note Falcon has kinda wilted and given up this second half of day phase. I think he does that because between him and lucy a wolf is going and so he is done with the game because either way both wolves are in the poe of yeetables and game is mechanically over

I feel 98% sure this is where we are at.

[RondoDimBuckle]

You’re welcome to your own rainbow list but I will not touch neon without someone red peeking.

And I am saying if Lucy flips town I will probably turbo that slot

[Golden]

Scotty accounts for 1.99% of the other 2%

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am frustrated that the cops are not coming forward but I understand its probably mechanically better to hold it out till FX

[Golden]

I am frustrated that the cops are not coming forward but I understand its probably mechanically better to hold it out till FX

I note that the deputy mechanically can’t.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I say we flashwagon Dennis.

Why would we do that when we have someone most people think is mafia already?

Nm let’s flash wagon Dennis

Do it I dare you

Lameow

[VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Busy today… not to say I won’t be here at all, but I don’t know exactly when…

So, a legacy rainbow.

People I would not elim short of the cop showing up with a red peek

SVS
Fingersplints
Neon
Roxy
Seanzie

People who could reasonably be deepwolves, but I’d only consider closer to lylo

Dennis
Rondo

If Lucy flips town, he’s worth another look

Scotty

Wolves unless the cop comes in with a green peek

Lucy
Falcon

Lucy could easily be up a tier with Scotty, but in my mind if we elim within those three and cop/deputy manage a peek within the other two we’re in good shape. I wouldn’t elim Scotty today though, he’s definitely a tier above Lucy in that sense.

Inb4 wolf Golden flips town Lucy into town Falcon and nobody listens to me

[Golden]

Busy today… not to say I won’t be here at all, but I don’t know exactly when…

So, a legacy rainbow.

People I would not elim short of the cop showing up with a red peek

SVS
Fingersplints
Neon
Roxy
Seanzie

People who could reasonably be deepwolves, but I’d only consider closer to lylo

Dennis
Rondo

If Lucy flips town, he’s worth another look

Scotty

Wolves unless the cop comes in with a green peek

Lucy
Falcon

Lucy could easily be up a tier with Scotty, but in my mind if we elim within those three and cop/deputy manage a peek within the other two we’re in good shape. I wouldn’t elim Scotty today though, he’s definitely a tier above Lucy in that sense.

Inb4 wolf Golden flips town Lucy into town Falcon and nobody listens to me

Which game and year are you getting in before, Nostradamus

[Golden]

It’s amazing how much agency I’m given over every single elim in this game.

I have wanted Falcon on days 1, 4 and 5. If I was controlling the game he would go today.

If Lucy is town this is a) not on me and b) a terrible reason to try to save Falcon.

There is an outsized difference in how many people are actually listening to me this game vs how much they’re perceived to be listening. I have literally only gotten my way once.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.

[falcon45ca]

How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.

That's too many steps

[Golden]

How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.

This game is a sure win because we have three power roles alive and they have quite a few evidenced green results in the thread between them.

Tinfoiling dumb shit gets us nowhere.

This game is so close to solved.

[Golden]

I don’t understand why people are so paranoid about why a caught wolf team isn’t fighting more.

They’re up against two cops. Why would they?

[Golden]

I can’t see why Lucy, in finals week, would other dedicating any time to preventing her elim of wolf.

There’s reason to if she’s town.

[Golden]

Have people just not played games that are solved before or…?

[RondoDimBuckle]

It’s amazing how much agency I’m given over every single elim in this game.

I have wanted Falcon on days 1, 4 and 5. If I was controlling the game he would go today.

If Lucy is town this is a) not on me and b) a terrible reason to try to save Falcon.

There is an outsized difference in how many people are actually listening to me this game vs how much they’re perceived to be listening. I have literally only gotten my way once.

Incorrect, you are voting her you can not absolve yourself of the guilt if she is town. I will probably end up voting her if she stops being top wagon but you know. You cant say the highlighted while voting for her

[RondoDimBuckle]

How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.

you want scotty right? did you find out who we should counter wagon with him?

[RondoDimBuckle]

How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.

Also noting I do not like the attack on town WIM here

[Golden]

It’s amazing how much agency I’m given over every single elim in this game.

I have wanted Falcon on days 1, 4 and 5. If I was controlling the game he would go today.

If Lucy is town this is a) not on me and b) a terrible reason to try to save Falcon.

There is an outsized difference in how many people are actually listening to me this game vs how much they’re perceived to be listening. I have literally only gotten my way once.

Incorrect, you are voting her you can not absolve yourself of the guilt if she is town. I will probably end up voting her if she stops being top wagon but you know. You cant say the highlighted while voting for her

I’m not looking for absolution. Neon is ascribing to me a deliberate plot of flipping lucy into Falcon. No, my plot is to elim Falcon, on whichever day I can get people to do it, no matter what lucy flips, and I’ve been wanting it for two weeks!

[RondoDimBuckle]

I can’t see why Lucy, in finals week, would other dedicating any time to preventing her elim of wolf.

There’s reason to if she’s town.

if it was finals week why did she [REDACTED] [REDACTED] for a [REDACTED] that she would know she [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED] [REDACTED]? Hmm?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I am more than happy to go falcon over Lucy because level 0 is she is just busy, but then you have to contend with fingers who is shielding him as a level 0 town. so its potato tomato

[Golden]

All I’m saying is that the thread state feels exactly like ‘game over’ and I’m gonna assume that’s true unless todays flip is town, and only then will I reevaluate.

If Lucy is wolf there is no reason not to flip Falcon tomorrow.

[RondoDimBuckle]

We are going to have to deal with either Fingers or Neon tomorrow saying they were right or perhaps they have TMI on falcon/lucy if they are town. We cant just be crippled into no action on the chance that someone being scummy isnt scummy

[Golden]

I’d like to see more legacy rainbows tbh

[RondoDimBuckle]

I’d like to see more legacy rainbows tbh

why? Unless you ask for something different you're going to ge the same thing? This just seems like a request to keep people busy and not looking into the thread in a constructed way. I would like people to have answered my question. I know you havent and you have time to sit here in thread.

[RondoDimBuckle]

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Lets for a thought experiment also take a moment and say the people on Falcon AND Rondo are all town.

Golden / fingers / SVS / Scotty / Seanzie

who fits with Vivax/Meta

Everyone else on the wagon should be seeing a 2 in 4 of the others are wolves

===============================

Lets for a thought experiment also take a moment and say there is only one wolf on each wagon max

Dennis / Rondo

Golden / fingers / SVS / Scotty / Seanzie

Falcon / Neon

- Falcon and Neon should have a difference check on each other (I dont think I can pick between Neon / Falcon atm)

- I have a difference check on Dennis

- Golden and Seanzie should be looking at Fingers / SVS / Scotty (I think Scotty is the loser here from Fingers reaction)

So out of

Dennis / Falcon / Neon / Scotty - there should be 2 wolves


========================

which is more likely?
why would they avoid the Lucy wagon? Why would they be on the Lucy wagon?

I will even repost it for you

[Golden]

I’d like to see more legacy rainbows tbh

why? Unless you ask for something different you're going to ge the same thing? This just seems like a request to keep people busy and not looking into the thread in a constructed way. I would like people to have answered my question. I know you havent and you have time to sit here in thread.

Can you think of no reasons?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

How to take a sure win and turn it into a loss

A playbook.

Step 1. Preflip a player a as wolf

Step 2. Solve only in worlds where player a is wolf

Step 3. Don't be paranoid of why there's been little to no push back in hours.

Step 4. Spend hours fucking around while waiting for EoD because the wagon isn't changing anyways because nobody cares.

Step 5. Ignore the fact that player A is level 0 and everything fits together way to cleanly.

Step 6. Player A flips town. Nobody reevaluates

Step 7. Accuse player C of tmi for being the only one to TR player A

Step 8. Kill player C.

Also noting I do not like the attack on town WIM here

How the FUCK is this an attack on town WiM lol

[Golden]

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Lets for a thought experiment also take a moment and say the people on Falcon AND Rondo are all town.

Golden / fingers / SVS / Scotty / Seanzie

who fits with Vivax/Meta

Everyone else on the wagon should be seeing a 2 in 4 of the others are wolves

===============================

Lets for a thought experiment also take a moment and say there is only one wolf on each wagon max

Dennis / Rondo

Golden / fingers / SVS / Scotty / Seanzie

Falcon / Neon

- Falcon and Neon should have a difference check on each other (I dont think I can pick between Neon / Falcon atm)

- I have a difference check on Dennis

- Golden and Seanzie should be looking at Fingers / SVS / Scotty (I think Scotty is the loser here from Fingers reaction)

So out of

Dennis / Falcon / Neon / Scotty - there should be 2 wolves


========================

which is more likely?
why would they avoid the Lucy wagon? Why would they be on the Lucy wagon?

I will even repost it for you

I didn’t/don’t understand the post/question