Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[santygrass]

Hmm does anyone have a read on ilario?

[Lumi]

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5108 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), Lumi (12), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (30), iaafr (1)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), Lilypetal (42), Jackofhearts2005 (6), falcon45ca (9)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (49), ilario (6)
deezees (2): Michelle (28), EnderWiggin (16)
lilypetal (2): santygrass (26), nutella (18)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (32)
manny (1): Manny (34)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (9)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (15)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (12)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

[Lilypetal]

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[Vivax]

Hmm does anyone have a read on ilario?

Tone seems great at quick glance but I've been fooled by that in the past. Only thing bothering me is this. Iirc he placed an instant vote on Ender along DeeZees which doesn't make much sense if that's his previous opinion of him. Votable for me I guess.

What’s zeus posting been like? Does he tend to pop in only at eod to make some solvy looking posts and then bails? If so he’s >rand w

Though fwiw these seem more lily syndicate player nks, Atleast the first one and tutuu

[Vivax]

I have absolutely no idea who’s even “in the game” as of right now, I’ve fallen into a “hi hello I haven’t read anything” *disappears for half a day and 15 pages appear* “hi hello I’m back I haven’t read anything” *rinse and repeat* death spiral

here let me be give you help, neither lumi, nor me, nor silverkeith are actual players :^)

I oddly believe this.

Can settle for any of ilario or rico today I guess.
Maybeish nutella for tone reasons but not a slamdunk there. Game's weird enough for meta not to mean as much as usual.
Will vote for what majority can agree on provided that happens in light of the gamestate which is juuuust a tad chaotic.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I could yeet Rico, generally.

Neon’s just most obviously wolfy player.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Rico not really jokey enough to be an NPC. Ergo town or wolf. Leaning wolf but like it’s not that strong.

[Vivax]

I could yeet Rico, generally.

Neon’s just most obviously wolfy player.

Rico not really jokey enough to be an NPC. Ergo town or wolf. Leaning wolf but like it’s not that strong.

Neon mostly looks like a guillo analogon, probs openwolfing with all the shenanigans. Becomes yeetable for me past this day, not before as it's a possible NPC. The entire Ender-Neon whirlwind just appears to be a whole bunch of noise if the Neon (soft-)CC was bogus.
Rico I sympathize with but every time they post it feels like they're meant to be talking to me and that suggests they're tip-toeing around me perceiving them. Yeetable, with regret, cause I'd miss the classiness of the posting. No gimmicking freepasses at this point however.

[Vivax]

Spoiler: show

The bastardized prions seem to be too slow or ineffective, it's making your reality a tad impatient. That suits some who'd rather keep it for themselves. Understandable.

[Vivax]

I've made a huge mistake.

Probably fine in the grand scheme, but your voice seemed familiar. Yes yes.
Lowkey terrified of opening any recordings and hear myself. Then again that's how you create the required friction so to say.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I could yeet Rico, generally.

Neon’s just most obviously wolfy player.

Rico not really jokey enough to be an NPC. Ergo town or wolf. Leaning wolf but like it’s not that strong.

Neon mostly looks like a guillo analogon, probs openwolfing with all the shenanigans. Becomes yeetable for me past this day, not before as it's a possible NPC. The entire Ender-Neon whirlwind just appears to be a whole bunch of noise if the Neon (soft-)CC was bogus.
Rico I sympathize with but every time they post it feels like they're meant to be talking to me and that suggests they're tip-toeing around me perceiving them. Yeetable, with regret, cause I'd miss the classiness of the posting. No gimmicking freepasses at this point however.

Anyone who took me saying it was me as a soft claim is reading way too much into obvious jokes.

[pyxxy]

to the tune of beyonce's THIQUE

threadddddddd gettin' deader

[Porscha]

santy making a wolfy post is towny

Maybe because he's hesitating to make a read on you?

partially, just think the post on the surface is kinda awful but I think santy's pov here is genuinely uninformed and like a towny way to just go eh whatever

i think for me it's the eh whatever + porscha town. He shows a depth of thought of not lumping Porscha in with me and neon because she's played much townier.

Santy town

Everybody else is also already thinking that between our love triangle, I am the most town. It's a parroted opinion whether its from town or wolf santy.

[Lilypetal]

santy making a wolfy post is towny

Maybe because he's hesitating to make a read on you?

partially, just think the post on the surface is kinda awful but I think santy's pov here is genuinely uninformed and like a towny way to just go eh whatever

i think for me it's the eh whatever + porscha town. He shows a depth of thought of not lumping Porscha in with me and neon because she's played much townier.

Santy town

Everybody else is also already thinking that between our love triangle, I am the most town. It's a parroted opinion whether its from town or wolf santy.

so?

[Porscha]

Okay, just from today’s posts I think that Porscha looks townie, but I also see some dissention there. Can those who are scum leaning/reading Porscha explain why?

As of my catch up so far, I dont recall anyone scumreading me. Who did that at this point in the game?

[Porscha]

Okay, just from today’s posts I think that Porscha looks townie, but I also see some dissention there. Can those who are scum leaning/reading Porscha explain why?

Who dafuq is scum reading Porscha lol Porscha is obv towning xD

I went back to look and this is the post I found:

NOOOOOO ILARIO DON'T TOWNREAD PORSCHA!!! ILARIOOO NOOOOOOO

I don’t know if this was meant to be a joke, or if it’s a serious thought. I know Lily’s been getting a lot of heat today

It was a joke she made because I am scumreading her for townreading me.
And dont let her non-chalance take you. She will choose to disengage during heat when she is wolfing.

[Porscha]

*Tame

But take gets the point across too I guess

[Porscha]

Gonna be really funny when people realize I'm playing lol

We sheepin ran tr on you tbh

Probably smart tbh ran is good

Who do you think is wolf in this game Nanook?

Well I'm voting nutella so thats probably a good start

Noo, I'm thinking lily perhaps wolf. But if nutella flipped wolf, do you have thoughts on what that could mean for lily's alignment considering nutella is SR'ing her right now?

[Porscha]

what do u all think of jack? i just skimmed his iso and he looks almost too obviously wolfy

Can you show some posts that make you think that?

[Porscha]

of what i've read i generally agree on your reads tbh ur just wrong on me

we specifically both think wilgy is town so nice

Yeh I'm kinda confident that If you keep posting I'll find you eventually even if rn I think you are the better yeet.


I still have a lot of people to sort so you solving today too will help me regardless I think

yeah i dont rly blame u nor do i take it personally this game is a bit too overwhelming for me to care too much and i understand ur pov

i do genuinely think you're the towniest player in the game though and for the good of town we should vote elsewhere

Ew lol

[Manny]

Ew lol

I gneuinely think you are the towniest player in the game.

[Michelle]

how many of u have skill issue

[Michelle]

what do u all think of jack? i just skimmed his iso and he looks almost too obviously wolfy

Explain

[Michelle]

of what i've read i generally agree on your reads tbh ur just wrong on me

we specifically both think wilgy is town so nice

Yeh I'm kinda confident that If you keep posting I'll find you eventually even if rn I think you are the better yeet.


I still have a lot of people to sort so you solving today too will help me regardless I think

yeah i dont rly blame u nor do i take it personally this game is a bit too overwhelming for me to care too much and i understand ur pov

i do genuinely think you're the towniest player in the game though and for the good of town we should vote elsewhere

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine

[Michelle]

Hmm does anyone have a read on ilario?

Not until he really plays

[Michelle]

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5108 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), Lumi (12), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (30), iaafr (1)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), Lilypetal (42), Jackofhearts2005 (6), falcon45ca (9)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (49), ilario (6)
deezees (2): Michelle (28), EnderWiggin (16)
lilypetal (2): santygrass (26), nutella (18)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (32)
manny (1): Manny (34)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (9)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (15)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (12)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

Such low activity should spew Neon not wolf

[Michelle]

I'll be back after work or later

[Lilypetal]

is thinking santy is super towny a thought crime?

sheesh

[santygrass]

They hated on you because you told the truth fwiw

[santygrass]

Just read Seanzie ISO. That was... Something


@Seanzie do you intend to play the game?

[santygrass]

iaafr nutella ran rondo
dizzy michelle santy
scotty seanzie

I forgot this. And also Ran died saying nutella was town with their last breath. Think I'll just lockclear nutella in my reads too and if it ends up being wrong I can blame tutuu

[santygrass]

@ilario talk to me about your read on Dr Wilg? And why is your WIM so low? I think that now half the NPC are purged and we have a better grasp on who is actually playing there shouldnt be more excuses to be so low on activity smh.

[santygrass]

big ol' summary post for myself to keep track of things

Day 1 votecount with NPCs colored as uhhhhhhhhhh orange:

golden (8): EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Creature, RondoDimBuckle, DeeZees, lucy, Vivax, DrWilgy, G-Man
chelsea(7): Golden, Scotty, Guillotine, ilario, Neon, tutuu,~Prince J~
arogame (2): nutella, Sabiplz
c4e5g3d5 (2): Marmot, c4e5g3d5
sloonei (2): Ricochet, pyxxy
lilypetal (1): falcon45ca
guillotina (1): katze
jaggedjimmyjay (1): Jackofhearts2005
jackofhearts2005 (1): Schiavetto
scotty (1): Hally
guillotine (1): santygrass
manny (1): Manny
risiinq~ (1): Ranmilia
iaafr (1):Chelsea
michelle (1): TonyStarkPrime

unvote (3): iaafr, WindwardAway, arogame123

Not Voting (11): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Lilypetal, SilverKeith, Inawordyes, Michelle, JaggedJimmyJay, risiinq-, sabie12, Fext, Porscha and Hollowkat

D1 - golden died, modkills sabie12 and Sabiplz

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N1 - TonyStarkPrime died
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D2 vote count, NPCs again are orange

santygrass (6): Guillotine, Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees, Creature
hollowkatt (6): santygrass, Jackofhearts2005, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, tutuu, DrWilgy
marmot (2): Marmot, sprityo
deezees (1): iaafr
enderwiggin (2): nutella, Neon
scotty (1): Lilypetal
guillotine (1): Seanzie
manny (1): Manny
michelle (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, hollowkatt, Chelsea
drwilgy (2): SilverKeith
sloonei (1): Ricochet
nutella (1): Michelle

unvote (2): Hally, RondoDimBuckle

Not Voting (13): MacDougall, katze, c4e5g3d5, sloonei, JaggedJimmyJay, Lumi, G-Man, risiinq-, Porscha, Inawordyes, WindwardAway, Schiavetto, falcon45ca

D2 - Hollowkatt died
- Windward Away, PrinceJ, Arogame123, Fext and lucy all removed as NPC for not meeting post minimum

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N2 - Tutuu died, Risiinq died
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D3 - Marmot chooses sweet release

D3 vote counts orangeeeeeeeeeeeeee

drwilgy (6): nutella, EnderWiggin, Vivax, Jackofhearts2005, ilario, SilverKeith
ranmilia (4): iaafr, Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal
nutella (2): katze, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
vivax (3): santygrass, Ranmilia, DeeZees
neon (1): Seanzie
scotty (1): sloonei
dyslexicon (1): RondoDimBuckle
lilypetal (1): Hally
katze (1): G-Man
manny (1): Manny
rondodimbuckle (1): Michelle
santygrass (1): pyxxy
sloonei (1): Ricochet

Not Voting (10): MacDougall, Lumi, c4e5g3d5, Inawordyes, Guillotine, Marmot, falcon45ca, JaggedJimmyJay, sprityo, Schiavetto

DrWigly aka wigly aka wiggles and ranmilia aka ran tied, ran died
modkills c4, guillo, chelsea and creature

The Purge:
JaggedJimmyJay, RondoDimBuckle, iaafr, Sloonei, Scotty, katze, G-Man

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N3 - Dyslexicon died
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So I think I can make a list of everyone alive? Spoiler because this is long enough as it is

Spoiler: show

drwilgy
EnderWiggin
ilario
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
Neon
nutella
Porscha
SilverKeith
Vivax

colouring the rest I found as NPCm adding infos

very useful thing, ty pyxxy

DeZees
DrWilg
Ender
Falcon
Hally
Ilario
Inawy
Jack
Lily
Lumi
Manny
Michelle
Nanook
Neon
Nutella
Porscha
Pyxyy
Ricochet
Santy
Seanzie
Schiavetto
Silverkeith
Sprityo
Vivax


this is the list i have

we should Iso inside this list from now on ig

Okay, L1 thoughts here as the resident “I literally haven’t been playing this game except to make the bare minimum up until now and I basically haven’t read anything before SoD today” person, but in looking at the all the EoD wagons so far, one constantly theme that I see is that Wilgy, DeeZees, Ender and Vivax are basically always on the top wagon or it’s CW:

D1, all four vote together on Golden
D2, Ender Vivax and DeeZees vote Santy, Wilgy votes HK
D3, Wilgy is top wagon, Ender and Vivax both on him, DeeZees on Vivax, Wilgy didn’t vote(?)

Ender and Vivax consistently vote together, DeeZees votes together with them until Wilgy is on the line, and Wilgy is always around the top wagons but doesn’t necessarily vote with the others besides the first day

What to actually make of this info, I’m not sure yet. But there is a clear pattern of buddying up, and I have no context of prior happenings and no ability to ISO rn, so I am fully aware that it may have a simple explanation that I just don’t have the knowledge of

Also, since Santy didn’t die D2 despite being tied at EoD with HK and both wagons having two confirmed NPCs, that means at least 1 if not more of pyxxy/Vivax/Ender/DeeZees is an NPC? Which means that there’s a 75% chance of my thoughts being blown entirely out of the water as-is, but hey I’m trying my best here with no info

To answer the last part. Dezees claimed NPC. Pyxxy seems NPC , and Vivax seems like player but wouldnt surprise me for them to also be NPC.

Ender is player to me tho for sure and a townie one. Don think there two mafias in that group , like the buddying up and voting together from so early with that many players I think its unlikely

[santygrass]

@pyxxy Talk to me. What even is your read on me? Like I think you are using parts of my posts and dismissing all the rest of my content to just vote without any nuance at all and it stinks if you end up being a player tbh. So talk to me about your read pls and what do you think of the peoplr that tr me

[santygrass]

Also I think at this point trying to 'hide' who a real player is or isnt is kinda moot since mafia is likely to kill players anyways at this point so anyone trying to pass off as npc to survive at this point is anti-town .

Now I'mma do some wagon analysis for mafia too


**D1 wagons** golden>chelsea

golden (5): EnderWiggin, **Dyslexicon**, DeeZees, Vivax, DrWilgy

chelsea (2): ilario, Neon



D1 Wagons not saying much rn tbh. Like, if both Ilario and Neon are players, there are two players more in the Golden wagon , so in {Ender,Dezees,Vivax,Wilg} which seems highly likely anyways. At least I think Ender is obvplayer and Wilg kinda too.




**D2 wagons** hk > santy

santygrass (4): Vivax, pyxxy, EnderWiggin, DeeZees

hollowkatt (4): **santygrass**, Jackofhearts2005, **Dyslexicon**, DrWilgy


We know for sure thanks to this that one in {Vivax,pyxxy,Ender,DeZees} is NPC . Then, if Jack isnt a player there should be 2 sure NPCs there. If Jack is a player the rest of them *could* be players.

Tbh overall I think it makes me more comfy with DeZees claiming NPC .


**D3 Wagons** Ran=DrWilgy

Ran (6) Nutella, Ender, Vivax, Jack, Ilario, Silverkeith

Ranmilia (3) Porscha, Neon, Lilypetal


This is juicy kindof. Think it for sure confirms that there are 3 NPCs in the Ran wagon. So in {Nutella,Ender,Vivax,Jack,Ilario,Silverkeith} . From that list, I think SKeith is the most obvious NPC. Ender is the obv player.

So between {Nutella,Vivax,Jack,Ilario} are 2 players and 2 NPCs. Kinda hard to read into it rn because I think there are odds of both nutella being a player or them being an NPC and trying to appear to be a player lol. Tho I think there are low.

So assumin Nutella player only one in (Vivax/Jack/ilario) is playing which is wowee. My bet rn would be Jack and Ilario as NPCs but it kinda gives me enough waver to not want to vote anyone in that group today

[santygrass]

Rico and Vivax are probably harmless

Who is even in this game both NPCs and real players lol

Rico is wildly different than his last game where he was mafia. Just an observation

Not much from Dizzy ISO tbh. Prob clearing for Rico, and makes me feel even better about Ender I'd say hmm

[santygrass]

Hally ISO to long so I'm just still going to keep my vibe read and prob clear her atm since approach to the game is rand>v . And they are most likely to be NPC > Town Player > Mafia Player anyways

[santygrass]

Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed
Vivax > Leaning Scum

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinks
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue


I dont know if I forgot anyone , hopefully not. Feel free to ask for a read on a player which is not 'null' . I think I have most of my reads kinds explained but I know people wont read my ISO and Im lazy and dont want to explain every read

[santygrass]

Also, I am missing anyone from the 'syndicaters' group in
{Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Pyxxy , Sprityo} ?
Maybe Nook or Wilg?


Cuz like, I still think that Tsp and now Dizzy kill points to someone in mafia that pays more attention to people from syndicate at the very least

[EnderWiggin]

Day 4 Vote Count
SoD: #5108 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), Lumi (12), DrWilgy (10), SilverKeith (12), Porscha (30), iaafr (1)
neon (4): Seanzie (5), Lilypetal (42), Jackofhearts2005 (6), falcon45ca (9)
enderwiggin (3): DeeZees (17), Neon (49), ilario (6)
deezees (2): Michelle (28), EnderWiggin (16)
lilypetal (2): santygrass (26), nutella (18)
ricochet (2): sprityo (5), Vivax (32)
manny (1): Manny (34)
falcon (1): Hally (42)
nutella (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (9)
unvote (1): Inawordyes (15)
santygrass (1): pyxxy (12)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (6)

Wait I'm actually being wagoned.

[EnderWiggin]

If I was wolf Dizzy would've been N1'd tbh.

[EnderWiggin]

Mostly because I read Dizzy as player from D1 and hard defended them.

Neon is mildly obvious wolf here.

[EnderWiggin]

Santy probably town for the effort being put in?

[EnderWiggin]

Hmm does anyone have a read on ilario?

NPC imo.

[EnderWiggin]

Schia is my second best guess for scum and I'm still side-eyeing Wilgy occasionally

[EnderWiggin]

Anyway that's my wolfy pop-in before I fall asleep, night ya'll

[Vivax]

Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed
Vivax > Leaning Scum

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinks
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue


I dont know if I forgot anyone , hopefully not. Feel free to ask for a read on a player which is not 'null' . I think I have most of my reads kinds explained but I know people wont read my ISO and Im lazy and dont want to explain every read

I don't hate this list. Don't understand how Dizzy dying clears rico for you.
Here's the one you requested from me anyways, for the protocol. I'm feeling generous today.

Spoiler: show

Players

DrWilg > Town
Enderwiggin > Town
Lilypetal > Leaning Scum
Michelle > Town
Nanook > Town
Neon > Null Leaning Scum
Nutella > Town
Porscha > Town
Santygrass > Town with sprinkles of skill issue

Player-ish vibes

Falconc45a > Null
Seanzie > Town unless cc'ed
Vivax > locktown never rescind

Npc-ish vibes

Hally > Towny
Ilario > Null leaning scum
Inawy > Null
Jack > Null leaning scum
Pyxxy > Null leaning scum
Ricochet > Probably cleared by Dizzy kill methinksnot
Sprityo > Null

Should be NPC

DeZees > Scum if not NPC
Lumi > Town if not NPC tbh
Manny > Scum if not NPC
Schiavetto > SCUM if not NPC
Silverkeith > Null with Skill Issue

Spoiler: show

Might head out and impale myself on a tree branch since getting microwaved isn't enough. For legal reasons this is a joke

Michelle's drop in kinda hasty, same for Ender. Low WIM drive-bys. Can relate perhaps. Mentioned earlier that I didn't like some of her posts. Ender I'll just townpile today.
Neon probs just trolling NPC at this point, but if she turns out to be a remaining player later I'd consider slaying. Seems improbable with how much ballsiness is required to pull that off though.

Would like to know what Porscha thinks about the yeet options while she screams in terror at the townreads thrown her way. The joys of being polarized eh ?

[santygrass]

@EnderWiggin I think that looking at D2 wagons + Dz NPC claim they shouldnt be yeeted today at least since there is evidence that makes it likely that the noc claim is true.

I agree that Ilario seems more likely npc because the nuance/effort in the reads doesnt seem to be towny rn. Also fits better with my worldview ngl

Wilgy should be prob town for wagons yesterday and they had good posts imo.
Schia all I have looked so far are walrus related posts so I can only NPC read that and if they end up being sl8ve after purge just absolute murderize them . Or like, Town Scout them idk if we want to make sure earlier but that would involve a Scout hardclaim ig? Idk

[santygrass]

What do you refer / infer with Michelle drop being hasty? I didnt understand that part.

Neon seems to be an obvious player for how they reacted to some pushes btw, so take that into consideration ig , doesnt feel like trolling at all

[santygrass]

Rico and Vivax are probably harmless

Who is even in this game both NPCs and real players lol

Rico is wildly different than his last game where he was mafia. Just an observation

Not much from Dizzy ISO tbh. Prob clearing for Rico, and makes me feel even better about Ender I'd say hmm

This . I think Scum would have much more options to pick in W!Rico worlds. And Rico is prob an NPC anyways tbfh