Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[Porscha]

all i know is people are pushing neon but idk why, @Porscha do u have a neon read because i trust u to read neon better than others here, ill sheep ur neon read

For the record I have been fooled by wolf neon twice, did end up finding her on 1 of those occasions, but it was late game, and died day 1 in the other. I am personally inclined to tr neon right now...mostly just because neon has not been any scummier than many of the players here and the indignation is pretty strong

[Lumi]

wtf Lumi you were supposed to be my NPC mason, treason!.

It's treason then

[falcon45ca]

haha what if everyone is town lmao

Then we have to change the name of this game from Mafia to Townia

People pleasin'!

I am a man of the people, sayin' keep hope alive, cuz I've got fuel to burn and roads to drive

[santygrass]

haha remember when santy was a major wagon haha unless?

If you are town and really think that Im mafia with how D2 went + the nks + Actually reading my posts then you deswrve to lose tbhtbh

[Porscha]

Side note I feel sorta bad but I am literally incapable of town reading santy, literally ever

I think I am pretty obviously town here. Evene the eagon analysis from pyxxy points heavily to that so wtf Porscha

I only recall wagon analysis pointing to people as players or NPCs. I dont think wagon analysis is able to point at town or wolf players, truthfully, so even if someone tried to make that analysis I'd just throw it out the window and ignore it

Sorry just dont think it's possible to get wolf or town reads from wagon analysis at this point in the game

[Lumi]

RE: the discussion earlier about the mafia scout, this may just be a dumb thought in my ignorance (as I’m basically starting super late), but pretty much any time I’ve ever been part of a scumteam that had a cop, they pretty much always NK a top player and check a top player. There’s a bunch of people ITT who I know outside these walls to be really good players that I’m honestly surprised are still alive. So my general assumption is that they’re scouting top players. The fact that so many who I would expect to have died by now aren’t dead in favor of more questionable NK choices has a good chance of indicating that a good chunk of the people who are currently leading the town are NPCs, and the mafia team knows it and are steering clear (or are mafia themselves, but I’m not gonna delve down that tinfoil when I have literally no info on anything this game to even think I’m qualified to suggest it as an option)

Which is really sad and sucky if true because if the actual town players aren’t stepping up as much (hello, I’m the problem, it’s me), then we are going to be in a rough situation after the remaining NPCs get purged EoD7 if most of the top thread leaders go with them

I townread this post

[santygrass]

Also I want to note that Dz hardclaimed npc when they were getting pressure and them now playerclaiming feels scummy in a vaccuum but I should actually reread stuff

[Porscha]

Just saw that Neon is voting Nutella...

[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine

Sorry but nope I'm down to chain policy yeets at this point

I dont happen to recall you saying or doing anything when nook voted nutella yesterday
Whys that

Nook is consistent. Neon has been voting in a pro wolf manner consistently and gets defensive and didnt even try to reassess when called out on it.

Like their stance is kinda summed up in 'Okay my approach is not benefitial to town and I didnt give a f about it and kept going but thats not a good reason to push me' while still doing a vote like that just wants to make me kill them with fire tbh

I'd like to play devil's advocate and say that neons behavior is also consistent based on your feelings as described. Lol

[nutella]

i townread iawy's posts today in general

[DrWilgy]

So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.

Wilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.



It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.

It was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.

How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?

I think you're aware of my wolf v town meta, and that while elements of my game thus far have emulated my wolf game, the timing of your push is somewhat sus.



I am rarely concerned about sus on my slot. I am nonplussed by nature...no, wait that's not right.



I'm naughty by nature. I learned to be nonplussed

Timing of my push. Define that for me as that makes very little sense in terms of context.

Jack pushed on you and I specifically advised against it because of the timing. It was simple enough to see both a world where T Falcon was lost in NPC madness and W Falcon just didn't want to play.

Because of that (probably poor decision) we lost Lily.

Did you not, the same RD, go from "T falcon may be lost", to "Let's vote falcon"? That kind of timing.


In fact, it took you from 11AM to 4PM on Tuesday to come to that decision. As if that would be enough time for T falcon to arrive at the party

Aye, I did, but did I push you? No.

Even in the same quote, I'm agreeing with Hally that I thought Lily was a suboptimal yeet. You were the better choice of 3 shit decisions.

If anything, the only player I think I really pushed for yesterday was Pyxxy and no one seemed to want that for some reason.

[falcon45ca]

Why did you start with me specifically?

I'm seeing things in your ISO that make me go Hmmmmmm

Aye, you'll hmmm, but you won't question it would you?

False. I can and I have

I don't recall you doing so. Care to refresh my memory of the previous questioning on my slot?

Well, it happened in my brain. I can show you the contents, but you have to sign a waiver

Trying to find you this game is proving to be frustrating.

Where is the nonchalant Town Wilgy of yore? And who hath replaced him with this angsty, solvey type of Wilgy? His tone doth not ring true

[Lumi]

One thing I'm kind of surprised that hasn't been mentioned yet in terms of mafia scout play is that idk if it is actually a good idea to kill their early "player" hits. This is especially true if the scout is someone they don't expect to live long.

In late game, if they are in elo with some NPCs still alive, having a confirmed town alive allows them to be outed post-flip, as one example of the benefit.

There won't be an elo with NPCs still alive - you can't reach elo before day 7 and that's when the NPC purge is.

It could have theoretically been possible earlier if mafia were on top of night kills and town kept MLing other town.

But we're past that point

[Hally]

i townread iawy's posts today in general

same

[nutella]

pyxxy is solidly in can die tier

[santygrass]

Side note I feel sorta bad but I am literally incapable of town reading santy, literally ever

I think I am pretty obviously town here. Evene the eagon analysis from pyxxy points heavily to that so wtf Porscha

I only recall wagon analysis pointing to people as players or NPCs. I dont think wagon analysis is able to point at town or wolf players, truthfully, so even if someone tried to make that analysis I'd just throw it out the window and ignore it

Sorry just dont think it's possible to get wolf or town reads from wagon analysis at this point in the game

When there are 294738 slots in a game, a team of 4 wolves dont let a team end up potentially dying D2 on a tie. Same read applied to Chelsea, and applies to Wilg fwiw

[falcon45ca]

So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.

Wilgy here showing an unusual amount of concern for the sus on his slot.



It is not uncommon for Wilgy to get heat, as he is a tricky read, and usually he cares very little.

It was a good means for me to actually get involved. I was pretty uninvolved at the start of the game, so examining who was being truthful in their suspicion of me vs who was chasing the lhf helped me get my footing.

How about you? You seem not concerned about the sus on you. What do you think of my takes on your slot?

I think you're aware of my wolf v town meta, and that while elements of my game thus far have emulated my wolf game, the timing of your push is somewhat sus.



I am rarely concerned about sus on my slot. I am nonplussed by nature...no, wait that's not right.



I'm naughty by nature. I learned to be nonplussed

Timing of my push. Define that for me as that makes very little sense in terms of context.

Jack pushed on you and I specifically advised against it because of the timing. It was simple enough to see both a world where T Falcon was lost in NPC madness and W Falcon just didn't want to play.

Because of that (probably poor decision) we lost Lily.

Did you not, the same RD, go from "T falcon may be lost", to "Let's vote falcon"? That kind of timing.


In fact, it took you from 11AM to 4PM on Tuesday to come to that decision. As if that would be enough time for T falcon to arrive at the party

Aye, I did, but did I push you? No.

Even in the same quote, I'm agreeing with Hally that I thought Lily was a suboptimal yeet. You were the better choice of 3 shit decisions.

If anything, the only player I think I really pushed for yesterday was Pyxxy and no one seemed to want that for some reason.

I'm not sure how you can see "let's vote falcon" and in fact voting falcon as NOT pushing my slot?

[Lumi]

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), sprityo (1), pyxxy (18), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (8), Porscha (12)
schiavetto (4): DrWilgy (16), Vivax (6), Michelle (15), Inawordyes (11)
nutella (2): Neon (44), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5)
neon (2): Seanzie (28), santygrass (19)
falcon45ca (2): Lumi (25), nutella (21)
falcon (1): Hally (12)
manny (1): Manny (12)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
drwilgy (1): ilario (10)
wilgy (1): falcon45ca (21)

[nutella]

wilgy/falcon feels t/w but that may be mostly confbias at this point

[Porscha]

Will except ran. But that wasn't the Maj wagon. And i forgot about that lolz

I voted Chelsea cause I thought it was more likely to flip wolf of the two wagons

I voted Ender d2 cause I thought he looked scummy

I voted Ran d3 cause I was following Porscha cause I didn't read a fucking thing cause I was busy and I thought what was being said made sense

I voted ender yesterday because I thought his claim was bs and I didn't trust him. It was bs. So like my reason was right lolz.

I had this thought previously but didnt mention it. My thought is that if neon is wolf and voted ender based on bs claim, wolves would have known better than to nk him. I think its towny at this moment in time

[nutella]

hally while youre here fix your vote uwu

[nutella]

falcon you too i guess

[Lumi]

@Neon

I don't think nutella is the right wagon today

idk idk idk

[Porscha]

I see my good friend falcon who will definitely invite me to his next concert has decided to start existing

A shame really, cuz I dont have time to keep catching up. Back to work. I'll catch up before eod

[Lumi]

schia wagon is such a throwaway day

"not enough info, let's sleep"


Like schia is the priority day 8 turbo, people.
Not today

[santygrass]

Just saw that Neon is voting Nutella...

[VOTE: Neon ] aubergine

Sorry but nope I'm down to chain policy yeets at this point

I dont happen to recall you saying or doing anything when nook voted nutella yesterday
Whys that

Nook is consistent. Neon has been voting in a pro wolf manner consistently and gets defensive and didnt even try to reassess when called out on it.

Like their stance is kinda summed up in 'Okay my approach is not benefitial to town and I didnt give a f about it and kept going but thats not a good reason to push me' while still doing a vote like that just wants to make me kill them with fire tbh

I'd like to play devil's advocate and say that neons behavior is also consistent based on your feelings as described. Lol

Its consistent but I wont townread at all the lack of reassesment or willingness to read something / gain more info in where a read could be wrong and just keep doing prowolfy votes tbh

[Lumi]

[VOTE: drwilgy ] aubergine


Maybe?

[santygrass]

wilgy/falcon feels t/w but that may be mostly confbias at this point

I think Wilg is almost always~ town tbf. Regardless of falcon alignment here

[Hally]

wilgy/falcon feels t/w but that may be mostly confbias at this point

wilgy has generally felt good to me since getting heat

not a meta read fwiw

[santygrass]

Will except ran. But that wasn't the Maj wagon. And i forgot about that lolz

I voted Chelsea cause I thought it was more likely to flip wolf of the two wagons

I voted Ender d2 cause I thought he looked scummy

I voted Ran d3 cause I was following Porscha cause I didn't read a fucking thing cause I was busy and I thought what was being said made sense

I voted ender yesterday because I thought his claim was bs and I didn't trust him. It was bs. So like my reason was right lolz.

I had this thought previously but didnt mention it. My thought is that if neon is wolf and voted ender based on bs claim, wolves would have known better than to nk him. I think its towny at this moment in time

I think its likely that wolves wanted a possible PR dead. I should read Neon reasons to vote Ender but I think that someone like Deezes that highlited that Ender could be NOC fakeclaiming before their death is clearing and someone that only pushed them not so much

[Hally]

Will except ran. But that wasn't the Maj wagon. And i forgot about that lolz

I voted Chelsea cause I thought it was more likely to flip wolf of the two wagons

I voted Ender d2 cause I thought he looked scummy

I voted Ran d3 cause I was following Porscha cause I didn't read a fucking thing cause I was busy and I thought what was being said made sense

I voted ender yesterday because I thought his claim was bs and I didn't trust him. It was bs. So like my reason was right lolz.

I had this thought previously but didnt mention it. My thought is that if neon is wolf and voted ender based on bs claim, wolves would have known better than to nk him. I think its towny at this moment in time

i had this thought too yeah

though i do wonder if wolves thought they could wagon him and pressure him into revealing his hand one way or another

[santygrass]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine

Maybe

[santygrass]

I need to sort my thoughts a little but rn I feel like wanting to kill half the pl so thats hard

[Hally]

generally i’m kinda doubting neon being a wolf because idk if a wolf would actually play this way

no idea what neon’s wolf range is like though

[Hally]

hally while youre here fix your vote uwu

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

[Hally]

tbh i feel like i’m getting trolled by like half the people in this game and i don’t feel like putting in the effort to figure out which of them are actually wolves

[nutella]

i forgot about ilario lol maybe hes just npc? idk how much he has posted last couple days


iirc two of him/jack/vivax are players though so hmm

[Lumi]

Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #0

Not Voting (6): MacDougall (2), sprityo (1), pyxxy (18), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (8), Porscha (14)
schiavetto (4): DrWilgy (16), Vivax (6), Michelle (15), Inawordyes (11)
falcon45ca (2): nutella (25), Hally (17)
nutella (2): Neon (44), NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5)
drwilgy (2): ilario (10), Lumi (29)
manny (1): Manny (12)
ilario (1): santygrass (24)
neon (1): Seanzie (28)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
wilgy (1): falcon45ca (21)

[falcon45ca]

wilgy/falcon feels t/w but that may be mostly confbias at this point

It's true, I am town

[falcon45ca]

falcon you too i guess

Hey, what's up?

[nutella]

your vote isnt counting

[pyxxy]

pyxxy is solidly in can die tier

damn guess everybody hates NPCs being orange

feel free to suggest a different color

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

generally i’m kinda doubting neon being a wolf because idk if a wolf would actually play this way

no idea what neon’s wolf range is like though

What's the case against Neon?

[falcon45ca]

I see my good friend falcon who will definitely invite me to his next concert has decided to start existing

A shame really, cuz I dont have time to keep catching up. Back to work. I'll catch up before eod

Porscha, come to Saskatoon, I'll get ya a backstage pass to all the hottest venues and gigs

[falcon45ca]

Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it

[Jackofhearts2005]

lolwolves

Nutella being wrong isn't necessarily scum indicative but yaknow.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

Some of y'all got like 5% of my ENTIRE POST TOTAL ON SYNDICATE in just this one game, and I have no idea how you've done it

by being town

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Wilgy is town if he's in the game to begin with. I'd bet my wincon on it.

[Manny]

I agree with Lumi that Schia is a godawful yeet, if it was up to me id yeet Falcon or Neon.

[sprityo]

Anyone whos actually a player should have at least been paying attention so

That's what you think