Secret Playerlist - ENDGAME

[Seanzie]

If we drop IAWY, I kinda think we should think about killing Ilario.

[nutella]

What is your take on Jack now? You were very gungho for W!Jack yesterday

i'm letting him go for today at least, mostly for counterwagon reasons (and yes it's a significantly different enough situation than falcon's) and also i sense some townie spark in his posts

[Manny]

you can tell by my avatar

this slot is prolly town due to being the cc to vivax so imma sheep his opinion and say iawy is town, ez.
i still think neon should be yeeted lmao
nut could go either way dont tr or sr them

[DeeZees]

you can tell by my avatar

this slot is prolly town due to being the cc to vivax so imma sheep his opinion and say iawy is town, ez.
i still think neon should be yeeted lmao
nut could go either way dont tr or sr them

Join me

[Seanzie]

you can tell by my avatar

this slot is prolly town due to being the cc to vivax so imma sheep his opinion and say iawy is town, ez.
i still think neon should be yeeted lmao
nut could go either way dont tr or sr them

I think Neon is also an okay person to wagon.

Schia also maybe.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Schia's gimmick has a chance to get over with the fans.

[nutella]

Do you still think that there was mafia influence in Falcon's wagon? **

i am currently leaning toward the falcon w and jack v world so not really

[nutella]

If we drop IAWY, I kinda think we should think about killing Ilario.

sure

[nutella]

me bout to drop a player salad:

[Inawordyes]

Do you still think that there was mafia influence in Falcon's wagon? **

i am currently leaning toward the falcon w and jack v world so not really

Alright, because **there was actually mafia influence on the wagon it turned out:

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Day 5 Vote Count
SoD: #5825 EoD: #6420

Not Voting (5): MacDougall (2), sprityo (5), SilverKeith (1), DeeZees (8), Porscha (23)
schiavetto (3): DrWilgy (23), Michelle (20), Inawordyes (53)
falcon45ca (2): Hally (18), Vivax (9)
jackofhearts2005 (2): pyxxy (23), nutella (55)
santygrass (2): Seanzie (75), falcon45ca (51)
nutella (2): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (5), ilario (13)
manny (1): Manny (13)
pyxxy (1): Neon (61)
falconc45a (1): santygrass (67)
drwilgy (1): Lumi (30)
sprityo (1): Ricochet (5)
falcon (1): Jackofhearts2005 (36)

VC based on one of my posts somewhere in the middle of our convo going back and forth about it. We were correct, we just had the wrong person entirely

[nutella]

i don't think that counts it wasn't really near eod

[Inawordyes]

If we drop IAWY, I kinda think we should think about killing Ilario.

[VOTE: Illario] aubergine

What's the correlation? Or if none, then what makes Illario the next-best option after me FYPOV? I know my reasonings for this vote and have explained why I think Illario is someone to look at, so where is your head at?

[Inawordyes]

i don't think that counts it wasn't really near eod

But we were talking about it when we weren't near EoD, we both felt it super early in the IRL day and went back and forth at-length about how it felt like Mafia was involved in the wagon. So why wouldn't it count when that's literally the state of things (Jack never voted for Falcon IIRC but was heavily-pushing for it IIRC) when we were both on that track?

[nutella]

The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Alright. Schia can wait I guess, and I'll pretend that this is a hint.
Thank you jack.

this is a weird vote though lol

not sure if lvl1 bad for schia or if a mealy mouthed temporary bus

[nutella]

ilario only has 1 L on this site btw, remember to keep spelling consistent

[nutella]

i don't think that counts it wasn't really near eod

But we were talking about it when we weren't near EoD, we both felt it super early in the IRL day and went back and forth at-length about how it felt like Mafia was involved in the wagon. So why wouldn't it count when that's literally the state of things (Jack never voted for Falcon IIRC but was heavily-pushing for it IIRC) when we were both on that track?

because you're the one who keeps generalizing it to "there was mafia influence" for me it was just "i suspect jack you suspect santy"

i never really noticed vivax pushing there at all, feel his vote was pretty meaningless

[DrWilgy]

Any new significant developments?

I keep starting both the Hally Manny and Ilario ISOs to check against what I found previously but can't hold my attention in the same place to save my life today.

Also behold, my froggy mug:

[nutella]

i wouldnt bother isoing manny and hally theyre like 99% npcs, focus on ilario out of those


love the mug and the cocoa and marshmallows A+

[Jackofhearts2005]

y'all flashwagoning vivax to save jack in this economy?

[Jackofhearts2005]

that image being huge is absolutely intentional

[Seanzie]

i wouldnt bother isoing manny and hally theyre like 99% npcs, focus on ilario out of those


love the mug and the cocoa and marshmallows A+

I checked Hally, they're a player.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm aware I'm in a tunnel but im also aware I'm correct so neener neener

you arent buddy lol

I can't hear you over the sound of my massive tunnel

Convince me that Nutella is scum.

No thanks

[Jackofhearts2005]

idk what to do with that Falcon vote from Vivax where he acts like I've softed cop in a game with no cop.

[Seanzie]

I'm aware I'm in a tunnel but im also aware I'm correct so neener neener

you arent buddy lol

I can't hear you over the sound of my massive tunnel

Convince me that Nutella is scum.

No thanks

Thoughts on Ilario?

[nutella]

i wouldnt bother isoing manny and hally theyre like 99% npcs, focus on ilario out of those


love the mug and the cocoa and marshmallows A+

I checked Hally, they're a player.

this would be surprising to me but honestly i probably wouldn't be that concerned still, think theyre far more in town meta than wolf

[nutella]

them being a coward and not voting at eod is like a hallmark of their town play lol

[Seanzie]

i wouldnt bother isoing manny and hally theyre like 99% npcs, focus on ilario out of those


love the mug and the cocoa and marshmallows A+

I checked Hally, they're a player.

this would be surprising to me but honestly i probably wouldn't be that concerned still, think theyre far more in town meta than wolf

They've majorly dropped off, which is worrying me.

[Inawordyes]

i don't think that counts it wasn't really near eod

But we were talking about it when we weren't near EoD, we both felt it super early in the IRL day and went back and forth at-length about how it felt like Mafia was involved in the wagon. So why wouldn't it count when that's literally the state of things (Jack never voted for Falcon IIRC but was heavily-pushing for it IIRC) when we were both on that track?

because you're the one who keeps generalizing it to "there was mafia influence" for me it was just "i suspect jack you suspect santy"

i never really noticed vivax pushing there at all, feel his vote was pretty meaningless

Because the 'generalization' is the mutual point of convergence for the why of both of our reads. I thought Santy was faking his confidence in his read on W!Falcon and you later came in and said almost word-for-word that you thought Jack was faking his confidence in his read on W!Falcon. Same conclusion, different culprit. But regardless, it is a fair counterpoint and I will concede that

Does Vivax being on the wagon at all, even if his vote was meaningless, change your perception of Falcon in any way given your current thoughts on him?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm aware I'm in a tunnel but im also aware I'm correct so neener neener

you arent buddy lol

I can't hear you over the sound of my massive tunnel

Convince me that Nutella is scum.

No thanks

Thoughts on Ilario?

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[Inawordyes]

idk what to do with that Falcon vote from Vivax where he acts like I've softed cop in a game with no cop.

Quote the post(s)?

[nutella]

but i guess they could also do it intentionally as wolf knowing i know about it and like their reaction the vivax and jack wagons was a little sketchy hm

maybe they didnt want to vote jack to tie/save vivax bc it would be pretty much outing (both outing that theyre a player and maybe an obvious save bc it was clear they hadnt read most of the day)

[nutella]

sean are you like 100000% hard claim actually scout

[nutella]

im having such a hard time believing hally is actually a player and if thats really true im kind of having a crisis on what to do with them

[Seanzie]

I'm aware I'm in a tunnel but im also aware I'm correct so neener neener

you arent buddy lol

I can't hear you over the sound of my massive tunnel

Convince me that Nutella is scum.

No thanks

Thoughts on Ilario?

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*forks over $10*

[nutella]

i don't think that counts it wasn't really near eod

But we were talking about it when we weren't near EoD, we both felt it super early in the IRL day and went back and forth at-length about how it felt like Mafia was involved in the wagon. So why wouldn't it count when that's literally the state of things (Jack never voted for Falcon IIRC but was heavily-pushing for it IIRC) when we were both on that track?

because you're the one who keeps generalizing it to "there was mafia influence" for me it was just "i suspect jack you suspect santy"

i never really noticed vivax pushing there at all, feel his vote was pretty meaningless

Because the 'generalization' is the mutual point of convergence for the why of both of our reads. I thought Santy was faking his confidence in his read on W!Falcon and you later came in and said almost word-for-word that you thought Jack was faking his confidence in his read on W!Falcon. Same conclusion, different culprit. But regardless, it is a fair counterpoint and I will concede that

Does Vivax being on the wagon at all, even if his vote was meaningless, change your perception of Falcon in any way given your current thoughts on him?

i don't really think so

again the vote seemed so nothing it's easily a temp bus imo

[Seanzie]

sean are you like 100000% hard claim actually scout

That is not a percent that actually makes sense.

[Jackofhearts2005]

idk what to do with that Falcon vote from Vivax where he acts like I've softed cop in a game with no cop.

Quote the post(s)?

The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Alright. Schia can wait I guess, and I'll pretend that this is a hint.
Thank you jack.

[Inawordyes]

im having such a hard time believing hally is actually a player and if thats really true im kind of having a crisis on what to do with them

Hally's dropped off significantly since the first purge, a bunch of us started picking up our slack and Hally did the opposite and went from someone who was doing stuff to barely doing anything

If Sean is hardclaiming, that's is definitely crisis-worthy because that's super concerning coming from their slot

[nutella]

idk what to do with that Falcon vote from Vivax where he acts like I've softed cop in a game with no cop.

Quote the post(s)?

same one i quoted a few posts ago

[nutella]

im having such a hard time believing hally is actually a player and if thats really true im kind of having a crisis on what to do with them

Hally's dropped off significantly since the first purge, a bunch of us started picking up our slack and Hally did the opposite and went from someone who was doing stuff to barely doing anything

If Sean is hardclaiming, that's is definitely crisis-worthy because that's super concerning coming from their slot

i think there may be irl/time/nai related reasons for that

but yeah thinking about their eod pop in more i may be actually concerned

[Seanzie]

I

am

the

town

scout. [VOTE: Macdougal] aubergine

I mean... why would I lie... in a game... all about lying... online...?

[Jackofhearts2005]

ahhhhhhhhhh, and there's the outcome I hoped for

Jack: becomes top wagon

the thread: doesn't care

Iawy: ties Vivax with Jack for top wagon

the thread: doesn't care

Iawy: switched vote to Falcon, tying Vivax and Falcon for CW

the thread: immediate pushback and multiple players come out of the woodwork including to vote Vivax

it's like clockwork haha

This is like in real time idk how ya'll think a wolf thread state cases his partner like this.

[Inawordyes]

idk what to do with that Falcon vote from Vivax where he acts like I've softed cop in a game with no cop.

Quote the post(s)?

The joke is "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink."

Where "drinking water" is "yeeting wolf Falcon."

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Alright. Schia can wait I guess, and I'll pretend that this is a hint.
Thank you jack.

Oof

Where does your conflict come in?

[Jackofhearts2005]

The immediate resistance to falcon being the CW while there's apathy for the last 10 minutes while Jack and Vivax are tied for top wagon probably spews the latter two town here I think

Oh wait this is why lol

[Inawordyes]

The immediate resistance to falcon being the CW while there's apathy for the last 10 minutes while Jack and Vivax are tied for top wagon probably spews the latter two town here I think

Oh wait this is why lol

yep

[Inawordyes]

Also, sidenote, but I've graduated to Corrupt Union Official

neato

[nutella]

the more i look at that vivax sequence the more i think we should just falcon punch falcon off the stage

[Inawordyes]

im having such a hard time believing hally is actually a player and if thats really true im kind of having a crisis on what to do with them

Hally's dropped off significantly since the first purge, a bunch of us started picking up our slack and Hally did the opposite and went from someone who was doing stuff to barely doing anything

If Sean is hardclaiming, that's is definitely crisis-worthy because that's super concerning coming from their slot

i think there may be irl/time/nai related reasons for that

but yeah thinking about their eod pop in more i may be actually concerned

Hally was absent from the thread during the entire lead up to EoD - until after my Falcon vote. IIRC Hally showed up with posts in the same minute that Michelle placed her Vivax vote, and she did so by immediately removing her vote on Falcon

[Inawordyes]

sup, haven’t read

vivax/jack wagons? how did that happen lol

vivax/jack wagons? how did that happen lol

I'm a town sleuth. I target three people and get a positive result if at least one is mafia. I targeted Vivax/Jack/you.

seems legit, i’m a wolf

alright well i’m not gonna figure out what’s going on in the next 3 minutes

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

sorry i couldn’t be helpful, mb lol

glgl

i really am curious how these hack and vivax wagons materialized

kinda unsettling but i don’t have a strong read on either

Okay, timeline was off and I conflated posts

But this really doesn't look good for Hally if they'reactually a player and not an NPC. They were voting on Falcon, they question why Jack and Vivax (Mafia PR) are top wagons, and their response to not being able to catch up quick enough to find out why, is to unvote Falcon? And their comment about Vivax that was posted right after the thread locked doesn't really look good for spending so much time questioning why the top wagons are as they are but 'not having a strong read on either'

[nutella]

[VOTE: ilario] aubergine

@ilario the time to start solving is now tbh

Bad vote tbh.
Has IC vibes all over and I mentioned I had scout read on him (or DZ perhaps)
Explains the Ender wagon of yesterday sufficiently.

I‘d tentatively townpile the lot who wagoned Ender.
Neon was more roundabout about it would have to do a fresh ISO first.

wait i just found this

lvl 1 bad look on ilario prob