The Syndicate

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:38 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:33 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:30 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.

Thoughts?

this game is what, 13 players?
id say 3 is the balance here

9 v 3 isn't balanced in my book. The first post "you're all vanilla, but nobody is" implies all generic aka vanilla, but no one is the vanilla flavor.

I mean 10 v 2 is barely balanced with no power roles.

yeah it might be mountainous
day 3 with no cop results, unlikely that cop doesnt get a single red check

i had the opinion that it was with prs

i guess 10v2 works the best here

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:38 pm
Ayy, time is extremely valuable
And I prefer to waste it on girls that's basic
That's just some Ye shit

reywaS wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:55 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:38 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:33 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:30 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.

Thoughts?

this game is what, 13 players?
id say 3 is the balance here

9 v 3 isn't balanced in my book. The first post "you're all vanilla, but nobody is" implies all generic aka vanilla, but no one is the vanilla flavor.

I mean 10 v 2 is barely balanced with no power roles.

yeah it might be mountainous
day 3 with no cop results, unlikely that cop doesnt get a single red check

i had the opinion that it was with prs

i guess 10v2 works the best here

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MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:20 pm
the first one was the quote without my post
"that was my goal by stirring up an argument"

its just a direct interaction, it was a normal conversation and i dont see the reason how its wolfy
theres many insignificant interactions throughout this game, you cant just single that one specifically lmao

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am

@novaselinenever you seem pretty against the recent suspicions on menace. do you have particular reason to believe he is town, or do you just not find any compelling points against him?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:21 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am

@novaselinenever you seem pretty against the recent suspicions on menace. do you have particular reason to believe he is town, or do you just not find any compelling points against him?

Hmm where are getting the bolded from?

There were some good points raised by Sloonei in the ISO of MM posts themselves. I didn't find compelling the linkage to Sprit though

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:43 am I guess it was just the criticism of the sprit linkage and the sheep gif, maybe I unjustifiably over-extrapolated your opinion because I remember you and him agreeing a fair amount.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:58 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:21 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am

@novaselinenever you seem pretty against the recent suspicions on menace. do you have particular reason to believe he is town, or do you just not find any compelling points against him?

Hmm where are getting the bolded from?

There were some good points raised by Sloonei in the ISO of MM posts themselves. I didn't find compelling the linkage to Sprit though

I feel like the sprityo connections are the strongest pieces of the case. Why do you disagree?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:58 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:21 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am

@novaselinenever you seem pretty against the recent suspicions on menace. do you have particular reason to believe he is town, or do you just not find any compelling points against him?

Hmm where are getting the bolded from?

There were some good points raised by Sloonei in the ISO of MM posts themselves. I didn't find compelling the linkage to Sprit though

I feel like the sprityo connections are the strongest pieces of the case. Why do you disagree?

I think the indirect defense point is a stretch. I read it more as an attack on Nutella, since he was scrutinizing her behavior in that exchange.

I don't see the 2 fluff exchange between them as compelling evidence of partnership. I fluff around, and have playful banter in-thread with most players regardless of my alignment. Case in point, me and you had similar exchanges early last day that Nutella qualified as banter/distancing. I'm Town, so from my PoV it isn't. If you're Town, you should have the same PoV. I see their exchanges in the same light.

Now, the lack of mentioning and interaction between them could be telling something but Sprityo hasn't been really active nor talkative so it's moot point. I remember you making this conclusion has well.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm ....I share I think it was your or Nutella that epi’s antagonizing weirds me out, but I can’t decide if it’s him being town or mafia

He would be my best lead outside of Jay who what appears from our angle to change people’s alignments at a whim (but he says he’s actually hunting)

Then of course we have everyone who isn’t participating. I’m sure there’s one person who didn’t vote yesterday that is scum

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:00 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:51 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:58 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:21 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:03 am

@novaselinenever you seem pretty against the recent suspicions on menace. do you have particular reason to believe he is town, or do you just not find any compelling points against him?

Hmm where are getting the bolded from?

There were some good points raised by Sloonei in the ISO of MM posts themselves. I didn't find compelling the linkage to Sprit though

I feel like the sprityo connections are the strongest pieces of the case. Why do you disagree?

I think the indirect defense point is a stretch. I read it more as an attack on Nutella, since he was scrutinizing her behavior in that exchange.

I don't see the 2 fluff exchange between them as compelling evidence of partnership. I fluff around, and have playful banter in-thread with most players regardless of my alignment. Case in point, me and you had similar exchanges early last day that Nutella qualified as banter/distancing. I'm Town, so from my PoV it isn't. If you're Town, you should have the same PoV. I see their exchanges in the same light.

Now, the lack of mentioning and interaction between them could be telling something but Sprityo hasn't been really active nor talkative so it's moot point. I remember you making this conclusion has well.

It’s the lack of interaction paired with those couple of “fluff” posts that has me concerned. And also sprityo’s unapologetic support of MafiaMenace in his argument with nutella on Day 2. It looked like a teammate trying to lend support of his partner’s case without calling too much attention to the fact.

There is also another post I want to emphasize separately.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:06 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:53 pm ....I share I think it was your or Nutella that epi’s antagonizing weirds me out, but I can’t decide if it’s him being town or mafia

He would be my best lead outside of Jay who what appears from our angle to change people’s alignments at a whim (but he says he’s actually hunting)

Then of course we have everyone who isn’t participating. I’m sure there’s one person who didn’t vote yesterday that is scum

Sprityo throws this comment away at the end of a post. If he is scum and he sincerely wants us to push this angle, he might give it more attention, maybe even devote an entire analytical post to it or something. But instead he just floats the idea with a shrug, not even naming the three people he’s vaguely accusing here (Spacddaisy/Lunalee, WaywardSon/nova, MafiaMenace). Sprit’s apparent lack of emphasis on this subject would cause me to speculate that maybe he’s telling the truth when he says one of them is bad.

MafiaMenace is one of them. I feel mildly good about nova. I have no clearly defined read on luna. She should give us reads and get attention.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:49 pm @Lunalee why did you switch your vote to MafiaMenace?

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:54 am too bad none of ya'll be around right now

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:57 am no shit he's bad as bad gets
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talking bout how many bad guys we have in this game lmao


that's something we will never know till end game so why the fuck even bring it up, cuz?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:57 am no shit he's bad as bad gets
\

talking bout how many bad guys we have in this game lmao


that's something we will never know till end game so why the fuck even bring it up, cuz?

Did you not notice nova did that too?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:04 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:03 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:57 am no shit he's bad as bad gets
\

talking bout how many bad guys we have in this game lmao


that's something we will never know till end game so why the fuck even bring it up, cuz?

Did you not notice nova did that too?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:25 am What's the consensus on the setup? I've been working with 2 remaining baddies, but I thinking the likelihood of it being just 1 is important.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 am Here's my current take on things:
Epi looks town because of his rainbow post on day 2 with sprityo listed as "would lynch" before the wagon had even taken off. Also his interactions with the thread look like genuine town to me.

Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.

I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.

Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.

MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.

G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.

I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:38 pm Languishing through a partial re-read. I got through Night 1. It offered me a new perspective. I see room for Sloonei to be bad. He chimed in with mentions of sprityo several times during Day and Night 1 combined. It’s almost like he wanted us to follow him down that rabbit hole.

Because we didn’t, he looks better after the flip. He didn’t push hard for a sprityo lynch, because that would look way too obvious in retrospect, especially had we lynched sprityo Day 1. He was tied with two civvies for the Day 1 lynch before he switched to Eloh. Pulling a sacrifice switch on Eloh is much easier to swallow for many of us than pulling a sacrifice switch of Jay. Sloonei always values Jay’s input, something he mentioned later to me when I asked him about why Eloh over Jay. All this, plus being a day removed from his sprityo focus could be evidence of a smooth operator, which Sloonei can be.

I don’t know if I’ll have time to read through Day 2, so I’ll leave my vote where it is for now. Far too much to work through to call Sloonei hard mafia. I still see room for Nutella to be bad too. Reading back through keeping in mind that Jay, Eloh, and Sabie were civvie and Sprityo was bad didn’t open much more up in my mind about MafiaMenace, Wayward/Nove, or Spacedaisy/Luna. That where I think I need to do the most work to develop firmer reads on everyone.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm Looking at lunalee. Replacements always have the slight advantage, if and when they're scum, of being able to form genuine opinions before the enter the game. However, when Luna entered she appeared to do a big catch-up and posted her reads quickly after. It's not a bad look, though some points were a bit questionable:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 am Here's my current take on things:
Epi looks town because of his rainbow post on day 2 with sprityo listed as "would lynch" before the wagon had even taken off. Also his interactions with the thread look like genuine town to me.

The "rainbow post" is a post by Jay used to accuse Epi. I don't disbelieve that the original post from Epi could have been a good look to Luna, but this seems like an odd mix up. Care to explain how that happened, Luna? And maybe explain how/why the post(s) in question made Epi look good?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.

I'm sure this has been pointed out, but nutella announced that she would not be around for the end of day. She didn't see any of the developments that lead to sprit's lynch.

I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.

I like this. It seems to cover real ground as Luna struggles with her read on me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.

Could you elaborate on why it's not a good look for nova to push G-man after sprit flips bad? I can get this criticism prior to the lynch, but afterwards it seems like totally fair game. Plus, I was directly asking him to share his thoughts on G-man.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.

Why does the quick defensiveness make him look bad?

G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.

I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm Looking at lunalee. Replacements always have the slight advantage, if and when they're scum, of being able to form genuine opinions before the enter the game. However, when Luna entered she appeared to do a big catch-up and posted her reads quickly after. It's not a bad look, though some points were a bit questionable:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 am Here's my current take on things:
Epi looks town because of his rainbow post on day 2 with sprityo listed as "would lynch" before the wagon had even taken off. Also his interactions with the thread look like genuine town to me.

The "rainbow post" is a post by Jay used to accuse Epi. I don't disbelieve that the original post from Epi could have been a good look to Luna, but this seems like an odd mix up. Care to explain how that happened, Luna? And maybe explain how/why the post(s) in question made Epi look good?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

Nutella looks town from her posts so far, also Sprityo voted for nutella day 2. I don't really see a reason for him to vote for a teammate at that point. But she did stay on Sloonei until the very end even with him refusing to vote her to save himself. Seems a bit strange.

I'm sure this has been pointed out, but nutella announced that she would not be around for the end of day. She didn't see any of the developments that lead to sprit's lynch.

I'm liking Sloonei's content. He looks town for his banter with nutella and nova. But also wants Epi lynched. When Sprityo comes up he says, "sprityo is a town read, but not a strong one. if anyone has a compelling case on him, please share it." That looks like he's ready to bus a teammate, but is looking for a good enough reason first. Says "so we're not lynching Epi?" as the sprityo wagon pulls away. Then places a vote on Spacedaisy and asks, "anyone?" Then very reluctantly votes sprityo. It's almost too reluctant to be a convincing bus. Then his reaction post-lynch is embarrassment for not being totally on board. Sort of looks town for that. Also looks town for refusing to settle for a nutella lynch. But I flipped back and forth on Sloonei a lot while reading day 2.

I like this. It seems to cover real ground as Luna struggles with her read on me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

Nova looks good for posting "I don't like sprit's vote on nutella." If Sprit and Nova were scum-mates, there would be no reason for him to point this out. But Nova also takes advantage of G-man's nutella vote to petition a last-minute switch to G-man. After Sprit flips scum, he also is very quick to point a finger at G-man as being "teammate compatible." Not a good look.

Could you elaborate on why it's not a good look for nova to push G-man after sprit flips bad? I can get this criticism prior to the lynch, but afterwards it seems like totally fair game. Plus, I was directly asking him to share his thoughts on G-man.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

MafiaMenace thought lynching Sloonei was a good idea. But after sprityo becomes an option, Menace posts the two people he wants to lynch are nutella or Jay (one now confirmed town, and the other looks town to me). Also the way he was quick to get defensive with Epi makes him look suspicious to me.

Why does the quick defensiveness make him look bad?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm

G-man pops in near EOD with a "I want to lynch nutella." I see how this looks bad, but it's not completely condemning, especially if he wasn't around much. Actually Nova's quick reaction to G-man's vote looks worse.

I'm sure there have been updates on this read because I remember you talking about G-man a bit and then voting him.

I had difficulty reading reywaS behind all their Kanye memes and lyrics. They voted Sloonei and stayed there while Sprityo was lynced. Not a good look, but I also distrust people who seem to hide behind a post gimmick.

I impulsively leap to defend people who post with gimmicks because they're willfully making themselves an easy target to criticism. Note that that's happening here a little. For what it's worth, I thought reywas looked genuine in his drunken relapse from the shtick last night.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:16 pm I appreciate that this post exists, but I have a few questions about the mindset reflected in these reads. Some seem like they could be dishonest to an extent.

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:55 pm Looking back through the first half of Day 2, I’m reaching the conclusion that either Sloonei or WaywardSon/Nova is bad. I’m just at the point where Nova steps in, so I have to see what comes from the new blood. Re-reading Wayward was giving me all kinds of weird vibes.

Sloonei seemed to harp on Wayward a bit through that point, agreeing and expounding on Jay’s assessment. I can see him bussing one teammate but not two quite like that. His sprityo focus D1 and his Wayward focus D2 share similarities. Maybe not structurally but in the way they make me feel while reading it.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:08 pm See the response to Sloonei's suspicions

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:23 pm Let’s get this over with, then. With Luna replacing Spacedaisy, we no longer have to worry about mulling over the fate of an inactive. Grill her and don’t let her glom onto the opinions of others. Force original content from her (and everyone, really).

Barring anything compelling, I entered Day 2 pretty sure I would vote for either Nutella or Jay. With Jay NK’d and sprityo’s flip, I find myself less convinced of Nutella’s guilt. That leaves me in a common predicament- I tunneled on a few people and now they’re either dead and civ or I have reason to doubt my reads. This leaves me at square one in a game that’s now too post-heavy for me to re-read to recalibrate all my thoughts, making me both a poor hunter and, thereby, less useful to the civvie cause than ever.

Vote for me but don’t settle down. Don’t get lazy. Keep reading and forcing interaction. The more you guys get reads, theories, and thoughts from each other, the more likely you’ll be able to find the cracks in someone’s posts. Just don’t over-analyze and force people into tidy little boxes.

Mafia is an art, not a science. When you try to force art into becoming science, you get midichlorians and mislynches.

If there’s two baddies left, then it’s 6v2 right now, which will make tomorrow Lylo. If there’s just one baddie left, then there’s plenty of cushion to survive mislynching me.

So you're recommending everyone force "original" content from myself and each other, but you won't be able to contribute?

I do like that you said, "vote for me but don't settle." I agree fully with that and will continue to look at other people today.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:51 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:56 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:23 pm Let’s get this over with, then. With Luna replacing Spacedaisy, we no longer have to worry about mulling over the fate of an inactive. Grill her and don’t let her glom onto the opinions of others. Force original content from her (and everyone, really).

Barring anything compelling, I entered Day 2 pretty sure I would vote for either Nutella or Jay. With Jay NK’d and sprityo’s flip, I find myself less convinced of Nutella’s guilt. That leaves me in a common predicament- I tunneled on a few people and now they’re either dead and civ or I have reason to doubt my reads. This leaves me at square one in a game that’s now too post-heavy for me to re-read to recalibrate all my thoughts, making me both a poor hunter and, thereby, less useful to the civvie cause than ever.

Vote for me but don’t settle down. Don’t get lazy. Keep reading and forcing interaction. The more you guys get reads, theories, and thoughts from each other, the more likely you’ll be able to find the cracks in someone’s posts. Just don’t over-analyze and force people into tidy little boxes.

Mafia is an art, not a science. When you try to force art into becoming science, you get midichlorians and mislynches.

If there’s two baddies left, then it’s 6v2 right now, which will make tomorrow Lylo. If there’s just one baddie left, then there’s plenty of cushion to survive mislynching me.

So you're recommending everyone force "original" content from myself and each other, but you won't be able to contribute?

I do like that you said, "vote for me but don't settle." I agree fully with that and will continue to look at other people today.

Teammates confirmed.