The Syndicate

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm It’s hard for me to imagine making lists so early. I tried to make one today, but after rereading the game, and some ISOs, I don’t feel like I have much of an opinion on anyone. I can’t clear anyone, but there are a few that I don’t feel great about.

Dragomir, seems like he changes his mind too easily and it might not be a bad thing (like being blendy and trying to stay on people’s good side) but it still caught my attention.

Sloonei, I would like to trust him but all the pushing for info from people, the gth on day 0, seems tailor made for helping mafia. Talk is great, it helps to be able to look back at it later in the game, and that helps town. But I’ve never seen anyone keep at it like Sloonei.

Nutella, is not playing the same as the last two games I played with her. She was town in those games, and she seems a lot less pulled together so far.

I can’t say that any of them would get a vote from me. Not yet. Basically, I’m still observing people.

Tons of linki

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:23 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:10 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm

What do you think makes him mafia

If I were Epignosis, I would say, "His role card makes him mafia." But I'm Long Con.

I believe he would say such a thing, as mafia, in order to get the reaction that you had, that he had a "mindset slip". That is the level of craftiness I expect from Mac.

I have never said that in my life.

What that's a classic Epi response what are you talking

Someone else says that. I forget who, but it isn't me.

Quickly, answer this

What color is this dress

Banal.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:23 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:10 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:47 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 1:45 pm

If I were Epignosis, I would say, "His role card makes him mafia." But I'm Long Con.

I believe he would say such a thing, as mafia, in order to get the reaction that you had, that he had a "mindset slip". That is the level of craftiness I expect from Mac.

I have never said that in my life.

What that's a classic Epi response what are you talking

Someone else says that. I forget who, but it isn't me.

Quickly, answer this

What color is this dress

Banal.

Answer.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:37 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:33 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:23 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:15 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:10 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:47 pm

I have never said that in my life.

What that's a classic Epi response what are you talking

Someone else says that. I forget who, but it isn't me.

Quickly, answer this

What color is this dress

Banal.

Answer.

Yanny.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:31 pm

Matahari wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 11:21 pm It’s hard for me to imagine making lists so early. I tried to make one today, but after rereading the game, and some ISOs, I don’t feel like I have much of an opinion on anyone. I can’t clear anyone, but there are a few that I don’t feel great about.

Dragomir, seems like he changes his mind too easily and it might not be a bad thing (like being blendy and trying to stay on people’s good side) but it still caught my attention.

Sloonei, I would like to trust him but all the pushing for info from people, the gth on day 0, seems tailor made for helping mafia. Talk is great, it helps to be able to look back at it later in the game, and that helps town. But I’ve never seen anyone keep at it like Sloonei.

Nutella, is not playing the same as the last two games I played with her. She was town in those games, and she seems a lot less pulled together so far.

I can’t say that any of them would get a vote from me. Not yet. Basically, I’m still observing people.

Tons of linki

Talk to me some more about nutella. What specifically seems different? Can you point to any posts in particular that stand out to you?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?

You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?

You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:16 am I have a wonderful advantage in this setup that I don't much get to enjoy anymore:

Regardless of of Sloonei's alignment, somebody I'm not friends with is going to be scared.

I like that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?

You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?

You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.

Or, you know, he's not.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:32 am How do you know he's making mistakes?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:40 am Your opinion on juliets dear Sloonei, if you please.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:44 am Jack's vote for nutella looks like horseshit to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:45 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:44 am Jack's vote for nutella looks like horseshit to me.

Why?

And what are your thoughts on nutella?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:28 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?

You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.

Or, you know, he's not.

You’re making the same mistakes as last game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:39 am I am concerned that Dragomir chose not to answer my most recent question for him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:53 am I'm amazed at the number of people who want to give me shit but don't want to vote for me.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:55 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:53 am I'm amazed at the number of people who want to give me shit but don't want to vote for me.

Maybe because D1 started only 40 mins ago and those who were giving you shit were doing it in D0 where you can't vote?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:52 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:28 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:05 pm Are you trying to say that because the suggestion makes no sense and I thought your iso made no sense?

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:45 pm Deepwolf in D0 already?

You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.

Or, you know, he's not.

You’re making the same mistakes as last game.

Really? Am I making an absurd and relentless tunnel against you? No. Am I making a hard push for you, trying to convince everyone that you're scum? No. Am I being relaxed about my scum reads and not making a big deal out of them? Yes. Was I in the last game? No. Am I being super confident in my scum reads? No(unless you want to consider just thinking that you're scum as super confident).

So tell me again about how I'm making the same mistakes as the previous game.

Also, do you just like to discredit someone's thoughts on you by bringing up a past game? I mean sure, it'd make sense if the player is playing as bad as the did in the previous game and they're not changing but that's not me here. I'm not playing as close as to how I was last game in terms of aggressiveness with my reads. I'm just scum reading and I'm being pretty soft about it unlike last game where I was super strong in my reads.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:39 am I am concerned that Dragomir chose not to answer my most recent question for him.

What question?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:57 am Another beer or go to sleep?

Vote quickly.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:56 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:52 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:28 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:20 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:14 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 6:18 pm

No.

Part of your accusation against me was that I accused nutella to try to impress others/make myself look good/potentially establish myself as "deepwolf", if I am understanding you correctly. These are your words.

Then MafiaMenace suggests the possibility of another player being "deepwolf", and these are your words:


You seemed to be accusing me of deepwolfing on Day 0, but then you cast doubt on MafiaMenace for suggesting the possibility of the same characteristics in a different player.

Yes you were trying to establish yourself as a deepwolf but I just don't believe someone can become one D0. Becoming one requires multiple DPs of powerwolfing, this DP was just one of those for you. Someone powerwolfing in order to become a deepwolf D0 is different from someone being a deepwolf outright in D0 and the latter is what I don't believe.

Or, you know, Sloonei is a civilian.

Or, you know, he's not.

You’re making the same mistakes as last game.

Really? Am I making an absurd and relentless tunnel against you? No. Am I making a hard push for you, trying to convince everyone that you're scum? No. Am I being relaxed about my scum reads and not making a big deal out of them? Yes. Was I in the last game? No. Am I being super confident in my scum reads? No(unless you want to consider just thinking that you're scum as super confident).

So tell me again about how I'm making the same mistakes as the previous game.

Also, do you just like to discredit someone's thoughts on you by bringing up a past game? I mean sure, it'd make sense if the player is playing as bad as the did in the previous game and they're not changing but that's not me here. I'm not playing as close as to how I was last game in terms of aggressiveness with my reads. I'm just scum reading and I'm being pretty soft about it unlike last game where I was super strong in my reads.

You are leaping to conclusions about me without seeming to consider alternatives or looking at the full picture. You’re in the beginning stages of a tunnel.

I am discrediting you because you are suspecting me. I’ve responded to every point you’ve expressed against me and you’ve just come back with additional points or refused to budge. I’m telling you that you’re wrong after having addressed every other point. You are wrong about me. Please at least entertain me and pretend that I’m town.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 9:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 11:50 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:55 pmPlease dont lick me I’m allergic

*puts arm over Lux's shoulder and leans in real close*

*in a whisper*

At least one of us has to be licked... You tell me who...

It’s gonna be you but by a police dog

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:56 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:39 am I am concerned that Dragomir chose not to answer my most recent question for him.

What question?

What did you like about my nutella ISO before you changed your mind.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:14 pm Start of Day 1 rainbow list:

Ultra
Macdougall/color]
MafiaMenace
sabie
Jackofhearts
Epignosis
Dragomir
nutella
Creature
Dragon D Luffy
Long Con
speedchuck
juliets
Matahari
sprityo
Spacedaisy
Cooler
DrWilgy
Luxurious

[VOTE: Luxurious] aubergine

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:12 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:56 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:39 am I am concerned that Dragomir chose not to answer my most recent question for him.

What question?

What did you like about my nutella ISO before you changed your mind.

I already said what it was when I tackled the ISO.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:14 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:14 pm Start of Day 1 rainbow list:

Ultra
Macdougall
MafiaMenace
sabie
Jackofhearts
Epignosis
Dragomir
nutella
Creature
Dragon D Luffy
Long Con
speedchuck
juliets
Matahari
sprityo
Spacedaisy
Cooler
DrWilgy
Luxurious

[VOTE: Luxurious] aubergine

Why the Luxy scum read?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Hmmmm

what's on yer mind?

It feels a bit like a minimization of what Ultra’s doing

And I’m not sure if MM has played with Ultra before but it’s kinda shady to dismiss his posts as pregame fluff or NAI

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

I mean the felicity player's peak is a one shot, and can ascertain the identity of any player role in the game, so I think it's a no brainer that it would be used straight away

I mean sure if you wanna get a scum right from the start and not give them any chance to out their teammates

But there are only 2 (pending 3) in the mafia team currently

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:52 pm
I have substantiated a gripe that I have with a Speedchuck post on Day 0. It exists to bolster the conversation in the thread.

Speedchuck gave an indecisive wave of the hand. I'd like him to tell us what it means, and I'd like other people to comment on it.

Why does your response exist?

I don't feel strongly about it either way. It's something I can easily imagine myself saying as well, as a general impulse to sort out what I'm thinking about people who have been active in the thread so far.

I’m mindmelding with this

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:40 pm If Day 1 started right now my vote would be on nutella.

Your suspicions are gravitating around people focusing too much on mechanics and I don’t see you as a driving force in the thread. You’re reacting rather than creating. It feels safe.

Sloonei treating day 0 like a super extension on day 1 is like good

But I think this is a bit early of a jump

I can see this coming from an anxious town or a trigger happy scum.

Since y’all apparently bus like there’s no tomorrow here, I’m leaning scum

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:15 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:12 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:56 am

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:53 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:39 am I am concerned that Dragomir chose not to answer my most recent question for him.

What question?

What did you like about my nutella ISO before you changed your mind.

I already said what it was when I tackled the ISO.

Humor me and state it again.

Only part of his post where he actually starts making sense imo. I can get how Mata falls into a low-hanging fruit category and the MafiaMenace part. But that last sentenced, the bolded I don't understand. @Sloonei what do you mean by that? So this is basically the only part of the post that I like, and it's pretty meh.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:44 am I first I thought he made valid statements, but thinking about it now, I was rather fooled by his in-depth analysis. Now reading back on it, half of what he said doesn't make any sense.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:34 am "Why Lux?"

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:38 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:32 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:29 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:53 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:49 pm Hot take

Felicity player should use her one shot on Rip Hunter to prevent Cult Shenanigans

at first glance cult looks pretty harmless early game, in my personal opinion it should be spent on someone like deathstroke, it brings down the average kpn from 2.5 (i assume) down to 1.5

i dont see any posts of ultra that would let me make a read as they are all pregame fluff which happens or strategic thinking which comes from both alignments

Hmmmm

what's on yer mind?

It feels a bit like a minimization of what Ultra’s doing

And I’m not sure if MM has played with Ultra before but it’s kinda shady to dismiss his posts as pregame fluff or NAI

I don't feel good about this post. I don't agree with the sentiment of the first line, nor do I feel like that behavior would been to be qualified as suspicious. I also do not see why Lux is suspecting MafiaMenace for not committing to a read on Ultra right away. Lux has not playing with MafiaMenace, to my knowledge. This whole post feels like a reach for suspicion.
Moving on.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:54 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:48 pm

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 2:19 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 10:28 pm Forgot that the felicity player can't just post results

In that case, what we might want to try a coordinated effort to allow the felicity player to "claim indirectly"

Here's what I'm thinking, if all of us come together and decide on D1 that nobody is allowed to cast a vote, except for the felicity player who casts a vote on her peek, we get whoever we want out D1.

This doesn't break the claiming rules as far as I understand, because anybody can still step forth and vote. But if someone else does vote, we'll still know one is felicity and one is scum. So still a net +

Interesting idea but that would not only out them and give scum a target

But wouldnt it be better to hold off using that until late game where there’ll be more information regarding player alignment?

I mean the felicity player's peak is a one shot, and can ascertain the identity of any player role in the game, so I think it's a no brainer that it would be used straight away

I mean sure if you wanna get a scum right from the start and not give them any chance to out their teammates

But there are only 2 (pending 3) in the mafia team currently

This feels a bit like a minimization of what Ultra's doing.

And the bottom line has already been called into question by Ultra. I'm intrigued by that slip, but unable to do anything decisive with it. An explanation exists. It does nothing for me.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 3:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:55 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:52 pm
I have substantiated a gripe that I have with a Speedchuck post on Day 0. It exists to bolster the conversation in the thread.

Speedchuck gave an indecisive wave of the hand. I'd like him to tell us what it means, and I'd like other people to comment on it.

Why does your response exist?

I don't feel strongly about it either way. It's something I can easily imagine myself saying as well, as a general impulse to sort out what I'm thinking about people who have been active in the thread so far.

I’m mindmelding with this

This post bothers me for reasons that are difficult to articulate. nutella essentially just says that she is capable of seeing two sides of an argument, and that warrants a "mindmeld" comment from Lux. I dunno, I guess I'm just used to seeing "mindmeld" reserved for strong, drawn out cases, not basic gameplay. Feels like a reach to establish a bond with nutella. This comes back later in a post I've already highlighted. Time for me to share my own thoughts on it:

Spoiler: show

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:46 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:42 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:38 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:33 pm

Ultra wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:16 pm

Well yeah no I agree with you on that. Maybe this wasn't clear but I suspect him for focusing on mechanics as a reason in itself, not just because of specific things I saw as scummy. Even if I didn't have those little pings (which like you said are pretty circumstantial) I suspect him for the mechanics talk as a general trend.

This seems like potential backed-into-a-corner-word-salad of an explanation

could you elaborate on this in a clear matter

When I originally stated my reason for suspecting MM I said it was because he was focusing on mechanics and that there were parts of that discussion which specifically pinged me. Even disregarding the small specific pings, which both he and Lux dismissed as weak and I concede that they were, I still suspect him for the main reason of generally focusing on mechanics. That make sense?

Serenade me with your take on why his focus on mechanics is suspicious

and what your other small pings were

It's an easy thing to talk about that isn't developing reads on other players. It's a way for scum to look productive in the thread without actually driving the scumhunting process.

Already discussed the other pings and they were shot down. Still have a hunch though.

This mindmeld is the only thing convincing me that you have potential to be town

Luxurious wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 6:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:43 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 4:40 pm If Day 1 started right now my vote would be on nutella.

Your suspicions are gravitating around people focusing too much on mechanics and I don’t see you as a driving force in the thread. You’re reacting rather than creating. It feels safe.

Sloonei treating day 0 like a super extension on day 1 is like good

But I think this is a bit early of a jump

I can see this coming from an anxious town or a trigger happy scum.

Since y’all apparently bus like there’s no tomorrow here, I’m leaning scum

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:51 am You also said this:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:44 am I first I thought he made valid statements, but thinking about it now, I was rather fooled by his in-depth analysis. Now reading back on it, half of what he said doesn't make any sense.

"Valid statements" is plural, and this whole sentence suggests that you read the whole thing once and liked it, then changed your mind later. Is that the case, or did you just like a single point that I made?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 1:51 am You also said this:

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 3:44 am I first I thought he made valid statements, but thinking about it now, I was rather fooled by his in-depth analysis. Now reading back on it, half of what he said doesn't make any sense.

"Valid statements" is plural, and this whole sentence suggests that you read the whole thing once and liked it, then changed your mind later. Is that the case, or did you just like a single point that I made?

It is the former. I didn't really analyze your iso properly and just assumed the things you said sounded right from a surface level look. Then I looked under the tip of the iceberg and changed my mind.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:02 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 2:01 am Every time I make a multi-quote post at Dragomir's request, I screw up the formatting.

Edit the post to fix it. You're a mod no?