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Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira

god it's so sad how often recently people push me for 'TMI' when i'm right that it's like ingrained in my head

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:07 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:47 pm @ilario @fingersplints what's going on? are you guys wolves together?

Lmaooo bruh I’m so confused what your read on me is

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:08 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira
god it's so sad how often recently people push me for 'TMI' when i'm right that it's like ingrained in my head

with wilgy V* if that's not obv

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:11 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:53 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push
Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.
@DrWilgy why do you think wolf book would avoid pushing u over mac or fs
When I flip, I could see alot more pressure coming out of it than the other two. I don't think W nook fights this fight just to get flipped d3.

If he latched onto Mac earlier or FS and they do go over, I think there'd be alot more shrugging and moving on.

Hmmm this is a decent reply

Wilgy is a lot more talkative than the last game I was with him as town, is this amount of volume normal for him?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:12 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad

lmfao

Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?

in general more often that town players suspect me the way she does, as much as i want to be petty and call her mafia trying to yeet me

like i said though i am very, very, very bad at guessing these things so not confident in it at all

But, @Gira Why me wolf if Wilgy town over other people townreading Wilgy like Esooa and Alison?

he feel like a target you'd be pushing to try to eliminate if mafia

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:12 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira

what?

but...you're pushing on wilgy...

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:15 pm**

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira
what?

but...you're pushing on wilgy...

So are Mac and Nanook?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:15 pm**

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:15 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira
what?

but...you're pushing on wilgy...
So are Mac and Nanook?

shut up brad don't make this conversation any more convoluted than it needs to be

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:16 pm**

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:12 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:04 pm oh wait, gira thinks i'm wolf with wilgy for pushing on a villager i guess. i was considering TMI

so why me over like Mac/Nook then @Gira
what?

but...you're pushing on wilgy...

ya sorry that should've said i'm a wolf with wilgy V, i was reminded of all my last games i've had correct pushes and people considered us W/W and getting salty, misinterpreted what you said at first

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:02 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:21 pm i reread ilario's iso and think he's mafia

there's a lot of questioning people and making statements along the lines of "not sure i see it" or agreeing with what other people say but not much in the way of actually taking definitive stances or pushing on anyone, just some soft townreads

granted i haven't been reading games well at all lately but that's what i see looking at him
lol I disagree but even if that were true, why is that scummmy on a d1?

i don't think you're trying to solve the game

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:19 pm**

I dunno maybe I'm wrong on wilgy so whatever

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:19 pm**

i am going to play a game with a friend instead of threadcamping

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:19 pm**

Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:18 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:02 pm
Gira wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:21 pm i reread ilario's iso and think he's mafia

there's a lot of questioning people and making statements along the lines of "not sure i see it" or agreeing with what other people say but not much in the way of actually taking definitive stances or pushing on anyone, just some soft townreads

granted i haven't been reading games well at all lately but that's what i see looking at him
lol I disagree but even if that were true, why is that scummmy on a d1?
i don't think you're trying to solve the game

But why?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:20 pm**

i've literally had 100% correct reads like my past 4-5 games or something and people still think im a shit player and don't listen to my reads, i'm sorry if this sounds overly salty but it just makes me emotional, i think i had good things against Wilgy

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:21 pm**

Like all I gathered was u don’t like that I don’t have a strong push, but that’s not exactly the hardest thing to fake? And there’s other slots including yourself just like that atm so I’m struggling to see your POV on me

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:21 pm**

90% w/e

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:21 pm**

I think your reads are usually decent

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:22 pm**

Anyways we're flash wagoning dizzy, right?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:23 pm**

Fwiw even if wilgy were to flip wolf I don’t necessarily think that makes esooa scummy

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:23 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:22 pm Anyways we're flash wagoning dizzy, right?

the spicier flashwagon is falcon tbh

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:25 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:22 pm Anyways we're flash wagoning dizzy, right?
the spicier flashwagon is falcon tbh

Eh I kinda liked their most recent post tbh

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:25 pm**

nook V

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:25 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:55 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:47 pm @ilario @fingersplints what's going on? are you guys wolves together?
Fingers is pinging me.

I don't think she's ever TR me before

This one

I think this is usually a town post

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:26 pm**

lol yeah that post is actually a little towny

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:53 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push
Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.
@DrWilgy why do you think wolf book would avoid pushing u over mac or fs
When I flip, I could see alot more pressure coming out of it than the other two. I don't think W nook fights this fight just to get flipped d3.

If he latched onto Mac earlier or FS and they do go over, I think there'd be alot more shrugging and moving on.

wtf does this mean?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)

Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm**

I basically just want to kill two and a half people and see where that gets us

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:28 pm**

Good god that PFP.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:28 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...

My early sr do u mean gira? Has ur read changed on him?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?

why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:31 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?

Tbf I think "a legit wagon option" usually answers that question regardless of his alignment

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:32 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.
I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.
Really?? Why?
Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...
My early sr do u mean gira? Has ur read changed on him?

Dizzy mostly, when Gira entered thread I thought they were wolf, but I skimmed their ISO I changed my mind.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:33 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?

I just didn't, not like it's damning until EoD anyhow. My vote was on Mac from when he was a 0 poster and I said 'lets yeet Mac for shits and gigles'

Did you think I was going to stay there?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:31 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?
Tbf I think "a legit wagon option" usually answers that question regardless of his alignment

ig but w/e it feels cowardly

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:36 pm**

i have wilgy's iso open and i still want to kill him, he feels extremely different, and i've read him accurately as town before

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:36 pm**

Meh, LC is either scum or needs to take a second look at Alexa.

I don't think Alexa goes over if I'm alive so w/e. Lets get that D2 bread gamers.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:36 pm Meh, LC is either scum or needs to take a second look at Alexa.

I don't think Alexa goes over if I'm alive so w/e. Lets get that D2 bread gamers.

wtf

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm**

what is the summary of why i'm scum?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm**

This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm**

Alright well thrilling EOD, but I'm fine with Wilgy going over because I think this can actually help me solve certain players in regards to how his flips.

Townreads:
Alexa
Dizzy
SPF
Illario
Alison
Nanook
Esooa

My main thought is that if Wilgy flips town then Esooa goes higher on the list, if he's mafia she's kind of stuck on that bottom spot and leaning back.

Top 4 is my most confident townreads.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:31 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?
Tbf I think "a legit wagon option" usually answers that question regardless of his alignment
ig but w/e it feels cowardly

Eh, I think in a game where cap doesn't lift that may be more true. Idk I don't really want to argue against scumreads on wilgy lol

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm**

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything

alison had DF and FC as scum in the hydra game

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:39 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything
alison had DF and FC as scum in the hydra game

lol you post that people think you're bad so neglect your reads or whatever then post this

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:41 pm**

Yeah but she barely read that game and to her credit on d1 she pushed two wolves and the hydra game before that she had really good reads. She also has a lot of experience with wilgy (I assume since they’re both from syn). I think ur most likely gonna get ur wilgy chop today regardless but yeah I was just trying to consider both sides.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:41 pm**

@ilario where would you personally go/why?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:42 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:39 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything
alison had DF and FC as scum in the hydra game
lol you post that people think you're bad so neglect your reads or whatever then post this

huh?? i'm just trying to say that in games she's low invested in, i've had better accuracy, but w.e just ignore me lol it doesn't matter, this is a similar low invest game from alison though, no?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:42 pm**

if that's your point then okay

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:43 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything
alison had DF and FC as scum in the hydra game

that doesn't feel like a totally fair comparison since:

A. alison had no meta on DF or FC (to my knowledge)

B. alison barely got to read the hydra game, but she clearly read more of this game

im not even saying that we need to sheep alison, just that this is a weak way to discredit her read

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:43 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:43 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:38 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:37 pm This’ll probs intensify giras tinfoil of me but meh: I’m pretty torn on wilgy. Mostly cos alison and Alexa who I both strongly tr have very opposite views of his alignment. I’ve only played with him once and after skimming his iso I don’t feel too strongly either way, I don’t think he’s where I would personally go today but he is noticeably more talkative this game compared to last when he was being pushed as a cw close to eod, but idk if that means anything
alison had DF and FC as scum in the hydra game
that doesn't feel like a totally fair comparison since:

A. alison had no meta on DF or FC (to my knowledge)

B. alison barely got to read the hydra game, but she clearly read more of this game

im not even saying that we need to sheep alison, just that this is a weak way to discredit her read

i could just as easily reference games where alison was correct about her reads to make her reads look better in this game as a result

i dunno this just feels kind of dirty to me lol

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:43 pm**

unvote: wilgy

no illario has a good point im sorry

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