The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.

I still lean town on NAA but what about him as well? The only way wolves come back out of this game is through slankers not resolved.

If you hard block him I wont bring it up again

I got no issue with him atm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:46 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:43 pm pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

4. the wolves liked your other reads more than seanzie's

this is 1

I will argue semantics with you because I'm too sleepy to do any real problem solving. You could still be a bigger issue than seanzie in terms of town status, but still be shielding a wolf inadvertently

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:35 pm

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:54 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:50 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm

Im an open book not hiding at all

Then what information are you referring to? Don't be so cryptic

not being cryptic. you can make a decision and take it just like i did. do you think im wrong or scum.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:49 pm I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.

So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now

i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:14 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 11:41 pm spicy take: LC, Arcbell, and srceenplay are town

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:42 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:02 pm scum because of unecessary effort

FTFY

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:51 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:49 pm

you don't see whats wrong with that?

It's wrong and it's basically trying to shut down the attempt to move the game forward, so it's scummy as hell.

where did the game stop at?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm

where did the game stop at?

Well everyone else ignored your BS after you disappeared the moment you got attention on yourself.
Then you magically reappear the moment Arcbell and I started talking about you being mafia and now you're here trying to be smart mouth with your answers.

fuck, I magically disappeared again

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 pm Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).

Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.

You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?

Why are you asking that question?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.

I still lean town on NAA but what about him as well? The only way wolves come back out of this game is through slankers not resolved.

If you hard block him I wont bring it up again

How much towncred did you assign seanzie in your head during the night after the falco flip?

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:39 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:29 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 10:22 pm

I've done it a few times this game already to make sure what I'm saying makes sense.



That's the thing, there's no PRs in this setup so even trying a gambit saying "I'll save info for later" doesn't make any sense here.

What's getting to me is that he's refusing to out any information in a game with 0 PRs. Then when I'm confronting him about his read on me or my scumread on him, his response is just making smart remarks or they're conversation twisting to try to confuse people.
They're not showing attempts to evaluate alignments of anyone. It's more just being disruptive.

There are no PR's, there is no gambit. So why out of all the RVS talk was that what got you going? You felt attacked? Hate the play style? Looking for a reason to vote someone? There is information there that can be used to help sort you.
I think it's the first two reasons for you.
Arcbell I see as looking for a reason to vote someone. They give a narrative (doubtful in any world) why I'm scum. They also explain to you why I could be town. They are having conversations without looking for answers and without questioning or doubting their vote.
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
Now I will miraculously disappear again.

maybe if arc was wolf they would have targeted screen here instead of the seanzie flip?

I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

Yeah I was going to hard block any push on Seanzie for his play yesterday, classic townie Seanzie

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:51 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm I get this strange sense that you're happy to be scumread Porscha, you go in my town pile for now

I dont think a single person has scum read me and I mostly just assume I will be POE day 1 / day 2 no matter what b/c i'm lackadaisical early in game so I don't fight it much if it comes up

is this a weird attempt to pocket me or something ...........................................

I have a slight scum read on possibly you and dizzy being paired but its outside because other people are clearing dizzy so I wont do more than say it here

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:39 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:29 am

There are no PR's, there is no gambit. So why out of all the RVS talk was that what got you going? You felt attacked? Hate the play style? Looking for a reason to vote someone? There is information there that can be used to help sort you.
I think it's the first two reasons for you.
Arcbell I see as looking for a reason to vote someone. They give a narrative (doubtful in any world) why I'm scum. They also explain to you why I could be town. They are having conversations without looking for answers and without questioning or doubting their vote.
[VOTE: Arcbell] aubergine
Now I will miraculously disappear again.

maybe if arc was wolf they would have targeted screen here instead of the seanzie flip?

I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.




Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know

There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.

So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?

@RondoDimBuckle

Why are you asking Mac why Seanzie died instead of him?

Whenever Seanzie is not on screen, the other characters should be asking "Where's Seanzie?"

speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:57 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.




Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know

There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.

So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?

I don't see your name mentioned anywhere in that line of posting?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:39 pm

maybe if arc was wolf they would have targeted screen here instead of the seanzie flip?

I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

Why?

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:35 pm Is there any way to see vote history here?

check my iso, I did grabs

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:42 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:41 pm Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

Seanzie and Mac started it, everyone else sheeped or piled on.

dont forget HK, they had some things to say even if they didnt vote falcon. 3 people said good things and falcon died

@Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:05 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:42 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:41 pm Unironically though, can someone summarize to me how we got a wolf on day 1?

Did Seanzie lead the push or something?

Seanzie and Mac started it, everyone else sheeped or piled on.

dont forget HK, they had some things to say even if they didnt vote falcon. 3 people said good things and falcon died

He did vote Falcon.

Oh I forgot something

@Lag

Why did you vote me yesterday?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:08 pm Oh I forgot something

@Lag

Why did you vote me yesterday?

Because you insulted my home site

I was going to check something else and then I forgot...fuck.

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

This is a pretty weird post for maf to make imo

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:43 pm pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb

seanzie wanted to flip me so they think they can get a free flip

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:09 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:08 pm Oh I forgot something

@Lag

Why did you vote me yesterday?

Because you insulted my home site

Oh...fair enough.

Sorry about that.

Because I am preparing to just sheep mac for the rest of the game and I want to make sure he isnt deep wolf

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.

I still lean town on NAA but what about him as well? The only way wolves come back out of this game is through slankers not resolved.

If you hard block him I wont bring it up again

How much towncred did you assign seanzie in your head during the night after the falco flip?

I had sean as inno child before the flip for how he interacted with me. If seanzie wanted to hard pivot to anyone but me I would have joined him

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm

I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

What was Mac's read on Rondo on day 1?

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm @Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?

Is this a trick question..

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:58 pm @RondoDimBuckle

Why are you asking Mac why Seanzie died instead of him?

let me catch up, if you're not going to back read, someone has to

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

THANK YOU

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:10 pm

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Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:35 pm

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:54 pm

not being cryptic. you can make a decision and take it just like i did. do you think im wrong or scum.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 7:49 pm I’m Dewey.
LimeCoke is confirmed scum this game. That’s all I can say atm but the rest of you should use this information well.

So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now

i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:14 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:36 am

Have you played with Srceenplay before and know enough about him?
Would this be normal town play for him?

If you're saying "No" to the first question, why do you find him town?

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:42 pm
FTFY

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:55 pm

where did the game stop at?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:14 pm

fuck, I magically disappeared again

srceenplay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 9:33 pm Maybe let other people chime in then i guess.
I feel like i'm the only one who has given information this game. If that can't be seen

I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).

Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.

You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?

Why are you asking that question?

Because I am preparing to just sheep mac for the rest of the game and I want to make sure he isnt deep wolf

Do you think deep wolf mac hell buses falcon on day 1?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:57 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.




Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know

There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.

So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?

I don't see your name mentioned anywhere in that line of posting?

Falcon tries to intimate I am wolf to try to get a wagon off him,
Seanzie thinks its weird and then votes him.
where is your ability to read between the lines?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

THANK YOU

How long did you find Dizzy scummy?

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:11 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

What was Mac's read on Rondo on day 1?

Why are you asking me this?

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

Spoiler: show

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:41 pm

I would've targeted mac b/c I didn't even know seanzie pushed falco

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

are you saying you agree with me?

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm @Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?

Is this a trick question..

Yes

(I actually just feel like no one really is interested in like grilling me or anything, which is weird because they have no information on my slot so why does no one care about trying to solve me?)

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:11 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

Spoiler: show

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:46 pm

seriously? it makes up like at least half of seanzie's ISO...

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

What was Mac's read on Rondo on day 1?

he didnt, because he knows its pointless

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:57 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.




Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know

There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.

So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?

I don't see your name mentioned anywhere in that line of posting?

Falcon tries to intimate I am wolf to try to get a wagon off him,
Seanzie thinks its weird and then votes him.
where is your ability to read between the lines?

He did do that I just noticed that now.
He also voted you in response to Seanzie's vote so like...I'm thinking it's an attempted distance job based on that.

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:10 pm

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Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:52 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:35 pm

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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:09 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:58 pm



So you're presenting this as if you have some special "information" that you've given us about the game, and now you've said enough and won't be back until day 2. It sounds like you're trying to be mysterious on purpose to get people to believe there's something behind what you're saying. It's inherently deceptive, especially since you're trying to use it as an excuse to slank!!

I think my vote is gonna stay on you for now

i was thinking that screenplay was like suuuuper wrong and was sorta wondering if he was too wrong to be mafia cuz LC and Mizery at this point were just ssooooooo towny to me and I was thinking "I bet if I am right some wolf tries to win townpoints by pushing him for the bad reads" and then you went ahead and did exactly that in like the scummiest sounding shit ever lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:14 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 am

I have played a few games with him yes. I don't have enough experience with him to know if this is "normal" town behavior, but I like these posts.

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I town read attitude a lot of the time as I find wolves tend to not want to make big waves like that early in the game. Late in the game sure, set up the thunderdomes and what not but at this stage of the game srceen being a wolf and playing like this is basically forcing the other wolf to bus him for cred b/c there's no way he's escaping today yeah?

Srceen is playing super aggro, drawing attention from several players, and then using that attention to drop reads. It's something I've done as town before and something I rarely see wolves do.

i like this read but I think if LC = town and screenplay = town then arcbell is doing like strictly exactly what mafia would do in that situation (and then falcon sort of sheeped it to a lesser degree).

Like remember how this was my first significant read in the game. Bonus points for Falcon sheeping your play and flipping mafia thus demonstrating the mafia utility of what I am describing ie. Falcon has spewed Screenplay town via this.

You keep bringing up how you solved falcon first and pushed him hard (Congrats) Why are you not dead and seanzie is?

Why are you asking that question?

Because I am preparing to just sheep mac for the rest of the game and I want to make sure he isnt deep wolf

Do you think deep wolf mac hell buses falcon on day 1?

unlikely but crazier things have happened and I am paranoid

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:15 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm @Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?

Is this a trick question..

Yes

(I actually just feel like no one really is interested in like grilling me or anything, which is weird because they have no information on my slot so why does no one care about trying to solve me?)

They do but I think your state as a player is pretty well known atm since as either alignment you were probably busy and are just forming your model of the game now

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

THANK YOU

How long did you find Dizzy scummy?

Opening post today, Mafia is way behind and has to come in with a plan. I am the obvious target

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:17 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm speaking of seanzie I'm kinda sus of dizzy

THANK YOU

How long did you find Dizzy scummy?

Opening post today, Mafia is way behind and has to come in with a plan. I am the obvious target

hm...

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:15 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm @Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?

Is this a trick question..

Yes

(I actually just feel like no one really is interested in like grilling me or anything, which is weird because they have no information on my slot so why does no one care about trying to solve me?)

I just want to flip you without any questions because you slanked day 1 which is a mafia move. Anyone with sub 10 posts, chop

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:16 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:57 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:57 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:05 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm Rondo has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content.




Is that typical of their Town or their Scum game? Inquiring minds would like to know

There is something about this post, Falcon...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:12 pm Yehhh...

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine

Well Object's last post of that appearance was at 10:56 AM my time.
Then Seanzie's push on Falcon starts at around 1:15 PM my time (Estimating I don't remember it off the top of my head) so a few hours in between so that checks out.

So wouldnt that mean.... Im town?

I don't see your name mentioned anywhere in that line of posting?

Falcon tries to intimate I am wolf to try to get a wagon off him,
Seanzie thinks its weird and then votes him.
where is your ability to read between the lines?

He did do that I just noticed that now.
He also voted you in response to Seanzie's vote so like...I'm thinking it's an attempted distance job based on that.

I really thought falcon spewed me town yesterday if you read his iso with me in mind. But I guess other people dont see it

I will point out that lag is maf by contradiction. they said they wouldn't backread but clearly has been!

and with that I'm signing off good night

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:14 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:11 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:53 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:50 pm

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Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm

I mean the dude kind of just appeared and hammered to be fair.

I didn't read Seanzie's ISO, I read falco's, and mostly paid attention to his posts and attention spotlight. I TR'd Seanzie for the EoD where he was super antagonistic to Rondo

uh huh and seeing that seanzie was killed and flipped, does this lead you to think anything sus about rondo or no

if I was wolf, why would I kill someone that is directly antagonistic towards me? It would lead to this exact question

your honor why would I dance naked in front of parliament, it would only lead to me sitting in this exact courtroom, facing this exact jail time

What was Mac's read on Rondo on day 1?

Why are you asking me this?

I feel a bit off-put by Rondo asking Mac why he didn't die night 1.

I was asking people why Seanzie died over Mac, both to try to get insight into day 1 without having to backread because I'm lazy

but also because I don't think any wolf actually kills Seanzie over Mac in a vacuum unless:
1) They don't know who Mac is
2) Mac is the wolf
3) Seanzie's suspicious of them but Mac is not
4) They think they can leave Mac alive until late game in order to get people to tin-foil Mac as a deep wolf.

I've tried doing #4, it doesn't work, Mac just finds all the wolves and kills them all before you get to LYLO.
#1 is a bit silly given that this is Mac's homesite.
#2 is self-resolving is kind of silly to suspect on day 2, I don't think Mac hell buses on day 1.

But doubly so because:
Mafia only knows who their teammate is. Glomgold knows who both of the mafia are.
A mafia choosing to hellbus literally their only known teammate on day 1 is a highly dubious play that I don't think anyone makes. It's a possible play to make as Glomgold though.

But because it is a play that's only made 50% of the time, the prior probability of someone being a deep wolf that's hell bussing is already half of what it is in a normal game.

So I think that just makes Mac >>rand town. And I think that's a fact that people intuitively understand about the setup even if they haven't thought about the prior probabilities and what not.

So then Rondo's questioning of Mac to "make sure he's not a deep wolf" feels a little bit misplaced. The line of questioning is useful in order to figure out who Seanzie was scumreading that Mac was townreading to potentially triangulate the wolf off of that. But asking Mac the question directly to "make sure he's not a deep wolf" ... feels weird.

If Mac did indeed town or null read Rondo on day 1 though, then that further contributes to the case against him. If he scum read him as much as Seanzie did, then meh

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:18 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:15 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:12 pm

Lag wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:06 pm @Arcbell

Why do you scumread me?

Is this a trick question..

Yes

(I actually just feel like no one really is interested in like grilling me or anything, which is weird because they have no information on my slot so why does no one care about trying to solve me?)

I just want to flip you without any questions because you slanked day 1 which is a mafia move. Anyone with sub 10 posts, chop

I was playing in an invitational game which I prioritized much more than this game. The SoD times for the two games were off by only an hour, it was a rather unfortunate timing overlap.

And it also makes me slanking day 1 completely NAI. I'm here now, read me.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:24 pm Lag and Jack need death as priority.

I want to kill Mac and then he posts things like this and it's like eh ok sure I guess not