The Syndicate

How the hell can you all prolific write?

[VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine

Felt the least impressive so far and was barely touched.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:17 am Aw shit it didn't work

What ails you, Creature? Express your feelings

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:19 am [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine

Felt the least impressive so far and was barely touched.

Do you think it's meaningful that Nate was barely touched?

Ftr my original wolflean was RondoDimBuckle because in another he waited until the end of day 1 to post and seemed pretty challenging the status quo as opposed to this game where it felt like he was more chill (?).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:20 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:19 am [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine

Felt the least impressive so far and was barely touched.

Do you think it's meaningful that Nate was barely touched?

It's somewhat concerning as wolves ignoring each other is a valid strategy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:20 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:17 am Aw shit it didn't work

What ails you, Creature? Express your feelings

Just skimmed a lot of pages but didn't feel like replying to any post.

Ftr you're not the first play to push me for not spamming like other games and wouldn't be the first to be disastrously wrong.

viewtopic.php?t=2322

I can play D1 fairly well as wolf but I often run out of gas quickly.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:19 am I always appreciate having fingersplints in a game these days. For her more than any other, it’s a perspective and a vibe from the increasingly distant Syndicate past transplanted into a very different new-age site meta.

I have no read on splints here, just musing wistfully. She will get involved her own way given time if she is town.

Probably because I’m stubborn and refuse to change lol I don’t win a lot so not sure I’d recommend my style of play to anyone, but I’ve always been in it for the fun over the wins anyways

But yes this is all true

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:26 am @fingersplints do you have an initial impression of me

Gth town

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:23 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:20 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:17 am Aw shit it didn't work

What ails you, Creature? Express your feelings

Just skimmed a lot of pages but didn't feel like replying to any post.

I feel this

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:56 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:39 am Maybe Mac plays differently here, but my expectation of town Mac is that he creates reads by tunnelling a player and looking at what ripples that causes in the thread. Basically going in with a machine gun and "100% sure someone is scum". So your first sentence doesn't really vibe with my experience tbh

I am pretty sure Mac is town here and I have a lot of experience with him. Even if he is scum he is probably townsiding/bussing so I am going to sheep his reads this day phase tbh.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:04 am Boquise feels like he is playing in a lonely manner. If he flipped scum I would be at a loss for figuring out who his accomplices are. He gives me the impression of someone popping in and trying to piece together a worldview by himself. This is townie.

I like these reads.

If all of Alison, JJJ and Mac are town then we're doing pretty good.

I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:27 am Ftr you're not the first play to push me for not spamming like other games and wouldn't be the first to be disastrously wrong.

viewtopic.php?t=2322

Noted, thanks for sharing. I'll review the comparison and see how I feel

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:26 am @fingersplints do you have an initial impression of me

Gth town

Okay thanks. I think you have a decent bead on What I'm About, so your view of me is a decent starting point for me to get a view of you. I'll let you develop that beyond a gth read as you please for the time being

Ender is a read I'd like to clarify in the near future. I am unable to dig properly at the moment, so instead I'll pose a question to the masses:

Whaddya think of EnderWiggin

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:34 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:48 pm Alison
Boq
Creature
Dizzy
Jay
Lucy
Rondo
Seanzie

all of the above have actually hit significant town notes I would expect from them...

Oh okay you have them as town now. I am kinda confused on the read progression tbh

Like did I misunderstand or did you not scum read Seanze, Lucy and Alison? What changed?

What a cringe term read progression is lol.

Seanzie i joke voted.
Lucy i just pushed off her entry in an over exaggerated manner.
Alison i thought was sus for pushing Rondo.

I then proceeded to reevaluate based on reading more content.

Why do you need to know why my read changed? Why do people always fixate on my reads changing like it's AI... It's so asinine lol.

I'd believe your initial vote on me was a joke, but then someone gave townreads including me and two others, and you said something like "well those are all my initial scumreads". How does this fit if it was a joke?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:37 am Ender is a read I'd like to clarify in the near future. I am unable to dig properly at the moment, so instead I'll pose a question to the masses:

Whaddya think of EnderWiggin

I have been often wrong on Ender so I'll most likely just follow how others read him.

Is Seanzie a wolf here?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:34 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:48 pm Alison
Boq
Creature
Dizzy
Jay
Lucy
Rondo
Seanzie

all of the above have actually hit significant town notes I would expect from them...

Oh okay you have them as town now. I am kinda confused on the read progression tbh

Like did I misunderstand or did you not scum read Seanze, Lucy and Alison? What changed?

What a cringe term read progression is lol.

Seanzie i joke voted.
Lucy i just pushed off her entry in an over exaggerated manner.
Alison i thought was sus for pushing Rondo.

I then proceeded to reevaluate based on reading more content.

Why do you need to know why my read changed? Why do people always fixate on my reads changing like it's AI... It's so asinine lol.

I'd believe your initial vote on me was a joke, but then someone gave townreads including me and two others, and you said something like "well those are all my initial scumreads". How does this fit if it was a joke?

cuz it was still a stated read

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:03 am @Dyslexicon Two things

1) What is your favourite kind of burrito
B) What is your game state read?
%) If you had a vig who is gone and why?

@fingersplints and @Marmot same question.

Spoiler: show

(Fingersplints cant say me just calling it ahead of time)

1) Chile Relleno Burrito
B) Burrito
%) Burrito

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:33 am I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

Ooh yes, do explain this one.

Can one of y'all scumbums just slip up in a way that I catch so I can tunnel you into oblivion and die N1? I'm starting to get the feeling that this game will actually take some work, so if we can make that not happen, I'd appreciate it.

JJJ is town because he isn't stilted off the face of the earth.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:06 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:33 am I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

Ooh yes, do explain this one.

Hi Marmot. I was nice and voted you earlier, so can you be nice and let me know if you have any thoughts on alignments thus far?

I have one complaint about seanzie thus far and that's a lack of transparent townreads, but I find him kinda townie aside from that.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:08 am JJJ is town because he isn't stilted off the face of the earth.

the nerve of this guy

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:09 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:06 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:33 am I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

Ooh yes, do explain this one.

Hi Marmot. I was nice and voted you earlier, so can you be nice and let me know if you have any thoughts on alignments thus far?

I'm getting there, this is my first time opening the thread since the first hour or two.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:19 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:09 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:03 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:02 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:01 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:57 am

Speaking for myself, I like making day 1 reads because:

1. It causes people to do shit
2. My ability to make reads doesn't require heaps of content and tbh sometimes it's hindered by it... I would say in the main my reads have an arc curve in terms of accuracy. They start off good, get worse during mid game, and then get good at endgame lol.

mine are exponential, currently 0

Are you holding back from making them or do you genuinely not have any?

latter

What sort of actions or inactions do you consider alignment indicative to a degree that makes you comfortable giving a read?

couldn’t tell you, i heavily psychoanalyze and look for intentions and how wolves would play a scenario. i’m not used to playing no PR games so that’s what i’m at, or games with strangers, i can say i’ll get better. and i can say i am nonetheless accurate. you can ask ender and jjj or iso my 269 messages from the champs game i just played (g7)

If I had to say anything about Lucy's reads it's that she narrows down on reads as the game goes on. I'd be more expecting content from town!Lucy D3ish to start being points where I analyse how she reads and decide if she matches her standard.

I could say D2 but I think D3 is a good standard point.

yes, this is how I play, my "meta"

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:09 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:06 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:33 am I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

Ooh yes, do explain this one.

Hi Marmot. I was nice and voted you earlier, so can you be nice and let me know if you have any thoughts on alignments thus far?

I'm getting there, this is my first time opening the thread since the first hour or two.

Which is why I'm amazed that I found a read from Creature that slots my name as scum with someone else.

We shoulda done a post cap, how do several of you have 100+ posts already?

Also, [VOTE: Rondo] aubergine as promised

Day 0.

We checked in.

100 times.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:15 am We shoulda done a post cap, how do several of you have 100+ posts already?

day 0 was more casual, d1 started 12h ago

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:12 am I have one complaint about seanzie thus far and that's a lack of transparent townreads, but I find him kinda townie aside from that.

Serious question: Do you believe the average number of townreads/game I give over all days in all my town games is above or below 4?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:18 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:12 am I have one complaint about seanzie thus far and that's a lack of transparent townreads, but I find him kinda townie aside from that.

Serious question: Do you believe the average number of townreads/game I give over all days in all my town games is above or below 4?

I don't have any belief about how many townreads/game to expect from you, but I'm basing it more around what I like to see from players in general, and that is townreads along with scumreads.

Tbh, despite the number of times I've played with you, I don't feel like I have a good grasp on your playstyle possibly because it doesn't happen frequently. But when I do picture you playing mafia, I always picture you in an armchair.

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:16 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:15 am We shoulda done a post cap, how do several of you have 100+ posts already?

day 0 was more casual, d1 started 12h ago

Oh shoot, I'm early.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:04 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:24 pm

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:21 pm Oh cool this game has started. Hello all

hello, d0, what's up?

Nice to meet you, and I hope you enjoy your Syndicate experience.

thank you, I do too

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:24 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:18 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:12 am I have one complaint about seanzie thus far and that's a lack of transparent townreads, but I find him kinda townie aside from that.

Serious question: Do you believe the average number of townreads/game I give over all days in all my town games is above or below 4?

I don't have any belief about how many townreads/game to expect from you, but I'm basing it more around what I like to see from players in general, and that is townreads along with scumreads.

Tbh, despite the number of times I've played with you, I don't feel like I have a good grasp on your playstyle possibly because it doesn't happen frequently. But when I do picture you playing mafia, I always picture you in an armchair.

Hmm... I suppose we haven't played many games together lately.

In that case if it is a general read rather than Seanzie-specific, what about me sticks out in terms of the number of townreads? Do you believe I have contributed the fewest overall, or was it some other criteria that caused you to focus on me?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:37 am I'd probs bet actual money Rondo is town here.

I do like to gamble though. But I'm pretty confident lol.

I find Mac mildly townie, but he's got a tone this game that I'm not used to that I want to keep an eye on. There are posts like this where he uses "lol" in his statements, something that lightens the conviction he had in them (which I get is an odd observation here given that it's added to a statement where he's talking about confidence), but additionally he's using other sentence add-ons like "though" and "but" back-to-back. I'm used to Mac speaking in facts, not considerations.

Anyway, just a note. I did go back through Ducktales Mafia to compare his posting there (a recent town game), Mac did use "lol" several times so maybe this observation isn't concerning. Also Mac caught falcon as scum Day 1 in that game, so his assertion here has some credibility.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:05 am If I had to provide a GTH sorting of the game by a seven-player POE, this is about where I'd fall right now:

Alison
Boquise
lucy
MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle
Seanzie
NateTheLesser

---[POE LINE]---

Creature
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
fingersplints
Marmot

Names within groups aren't ordered. Not every name above the line is a confident one (e.g., Nate is an undeveloped read, but I give him the gut read nod). EnderWiggin is another challenge that I could stand to develop with an ISO.

I think Nate sounds similar to his G1 play tbh
We pretty much have the same poe!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:33 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:24 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:18 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:12 am I have one complaint about seanzie thus far and that's a lack of transparent townreads, but I find him kinda townie aside from that.

Serious question: Do you believe the average number of townreads/game I give over all days in all my town games is above or below 4?

I don't have any belief about how many townreads/game to expect from you, but I'm basing it more around what I like to see from players in general, and that is townreads along with scumreads.

Tbh, despite the number of times I've played with you, I don't feel like I have a good grasp on your playstyle possibly because it doesn't happen frequently. But when I do picture you playing mafia, I always picture you in an armchair.

Hmm... I suppose we haven't played many games together lately.

In that case if it is a general read rather than Seanzie-specific, what about me sticks out in terms of the number of townreads? Do you believe I have contributed the fewest overall, or was it some other criteria that caused you to focus on me?

My approach to today, I won't have time to read the first 1000 posts of this game, so I plan to read from this point forward, and dive into ISOs for earlier content when I can. You'd posted recently, so you were one of the first on my ISO list. Glancing through your ISO, the thing I am concerned by is that you've noted a number of reasons to suspect other players, but little reason to trust/TR anyone, which could be an attempt to keep any sort of towncore from happening. Would you consider that your playstyle? Are there players that you townread at this point? Did I miss seeing those in your ISO?

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:23 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:20 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:17 am Aw shit it didn't work

What ails you, Creature? Express your feelings

Just skimmed a lot of pages but didn't feel like replying to any post.

Not even the post where I asked you a question smh
You answered my second q, but my first is still waiting for you tbh

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:05 am If I had to provide a GTH sorting of the game by a seven-player POE, this is about where I'd fall right now:

Alison
Boquise
lucy
MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle
Seanzie
NateTheLesser

---[POE LINE]---

Creature
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
fingersplints
Marmot

Names within groups aren't ordered. Not every name above the line is a confident one (e.g., Nate is an undeveloped read, but I give him the gut read nod). EnderWiggin is another challenge that I could stand to develop with an ISO.

I think Nate sounds similar to his G1 play tbh
We pretty much have the same poe!

I'm so glad the band could get together for a game of mafia!

Now I wish @Master Radishes were here.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:33 am I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

2/3 of those have been fairly quiet. It is sorta typical to scum read the low posters because everyone sounds so townie and solvy. Is there anything on Marmot that you felt, as you wrote this post, was wolfy?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:41 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:05 am If I had to provide a GTH sorting of the game by a seven-player POE, this is about where I'd fall right now:

Alison
Boquise
lucy
MacDougall
RondoDimBuckle
Seanzie
NateTheLesser

---[POE LINE]---

Creature
DrWilgy
Dyslexicon
EnderWiggin
falcon45ca
fingersplints
Marmot

Names within groups aren't ordered. Not every name above the line is a confident one (e.g., Nate is an undeveloped read, but I give him the gut read nod). EnderWiggin is another challenge that I could stand to develop with an ISO.

I think Nate sounds similar to his G1 play tbh
We pretty much have the same poe!

I'm so glad the band could get together for a game of mafia!

Now I wish @Master Radishes were here.

Where's your jazz marmot tho

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:39 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:34 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:48 pm Alison
Boq
Creature
Dizzy
Jay
Lucy
Rondo
Seanzie

all of the above have actually hit significant town notes I would expect from them...

Oh okay you have them as town now. I am kinda confused on the read progression tbh

Like did I misunderstand or did you not scum read Seanze, Lucy and Alison? What changed?

What a cringe term read progression is lol.

Seanzie i joke voted.
Lucy i just pushed off her entry in an over exaggerated manner.
Alison i thought was sus for pushing Rondo.

I then proceeded to reevaluate based on reading more content.

Why do you need to know why my read changed? Why do people always fixate on my reads changing like it's AI... It's so asinine lol.

I'd believe your initial vote on me was a joke, but then someone gave townreads including me and two others, and you said something like "well those are all my initial scumreads". How does this fit if it was a joke?

That someone was me ftr tbh!

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:42 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:33 am I could see it being Marmot + NaateTheLesser

Maybe DrWilgy for third

2/3 of those have been fairly quiet. It is sorta typical to scum read the low posters because everyone sounds so townie and solvy. Is there anything on Marmot that you felt, as you wrote this post, was wolfy?

Given that I'd only posted that I was going to slank until Day 1, I'm also curious about this.