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Thanks for the reminder. I'd vote Dom today.
Many of his posts that don't involve his conversation with you come across as town to me, while a lot of what you are seeing doesn't look great but does remind me of reasons we've mislynched sig in the past. The thing that I find most troubling about sig is the feeling that he might have been trying to bait you, but otherwise I think he's actually looked relatively town this game.
I actually think you might be onto something. Sig is just a really tricky player to read; I never can seem to be right about him either. There have been moments on my own throughout the game when I felt like his thought process was genuine.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel about sig.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:42 pmMany of his posts that don't involve his conversation with you come across as town to me, while a lot of what you are seeing doesn't look great but does remind me of reasons we've mislynched sig in the past. The thing that I find most troubling about sig is the feeling that he might have been trying to bait you, but otherwise I think he's actually looked relatively town this game.
Says he'll pick 7, picks 8. Clearly bad.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:47 pm I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.
Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN
This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.
I realize that dunya is not the sole beacon of effort in this game. You guys have been posting a lot, but I don't really care about post counts. My opinion of dunya is based on the fact that her posts seem to be genuinely helpful for analyzing the game.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:26 pmThis doesn't answer my question, sorry.Spoiler: show
Let me explain:
As of this moment, Golden is the top poster with 142 posts. I have 120. dunya has 87. Scotty has 86. Sloonei has 77. Mac has 76. You get the idea. dunya is not a sole beacon of effort this game.
Consequently, your read that dunya's effort is leading you to a solid town read of her is confusing to me, especially when you're apparently reading me as shady. Why am I shady? Why don't you have town reads of anyone else in that list?
Hey LC, do you have any notable reads other than dunya? And what specifically in her post history is what led you to not believe her; like, if you were trying to convince me that she's bad news, what would should I consider then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm The thing about sig is, I'm not voting for him. The thing about Epi is, I can't read him for shit, but I'm not going to throw a vote at him for a possible mislynch, or more likely, a wasted vote when he decides he doesn't feel like being lynched and makes you all vote somewhere else.
Does anyone have a sense of how this compares to GoC Jack?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:59 pm Jack has very little to say and makes a lot of one-line posts. Then he plants a vote on Epi:But I don't see him engaging with Epi, or anyone else for that matter. This is an easy vote for a player who is acting strangely.
He poked me last night with rumors of rumors. It went nowhere:Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:32 am @Sloonei
I hear a rumor you might be bad this game. Tell me about that rumor.
(I’m happy with my Epi vote btw.)These questions feel directionless and empty. I could vote for Jack. Let's do it. [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergineJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 amI haven’t read any of your posts from before the last three or so pages so “not really.”Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:46 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:39 am Linki: That’s not what I meant when I said “Tell me about that rumor.”I’m not bad. Do you have reasons to think I might be?
You have no thoughts on your accusers?
Alright, thanks for elaborating; I suppose that's fair. I'm curious what else you have up your sleeve whenever you get around to it.Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:45 pmI realize that dunya is not the sole beacon of effort in this game. You guys have been posting a lot, but I don't really care about post counts. My opinion of dunya is based on the fact that her posts seem to be genuinely helpful for analyzing the game.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:26 pmThis doesn't answer my question, sorry.Spoiler: show
Let me explain:
As of this moment, Golden is the top poster with 142 posts. I have 120. dunya has 87. Scotty has 86. Sloonei has 77. Mac has 76. You get the idea. dunya is not a sole beacon of effort this game.
Consequently, your read that dunya's effort is leading you to a solid town read of her is confusing to me, especially when you're apparently reading me as shady. Why am I shady? Why don't you have town reads of anyone else in that list?
As I'm reviewing posts to put my opinion of you and Golden into words, I've found that you seem to be patting each other on the back with town-reads. Just looks a bit suspicious for Golden to "confirm" you as a town read on multiple posts.
I don't have reads of anyone else in that list because right now because I feel like any read I put out is based off minimal data. I'll offer a read if something sticks out to me.
How about the forced vote he admitted to ? If you've isoed him I'm sure you've seen his initial meta-read on me. It seems like he changed it in order to justify a vote.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:43 pmI actually think you might be onto something. Sig is just a really tricky player to read; I never can seem to be right about him either. There have been moments on my own throughout the game when I felt like his thought process was genuine.
I do feel like his handling of you though is a bit shaky. That's definitely the weak spot in his ISO.
Right now, I'm looking at LC, Jack and Epi.
That's fine.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:50 pmI hear you Dom... I'm just not convinced, at least not yet.
Nothing that big. I was getting suspicious of Golden there, and I can't decide if I should let it go. Then again, now Luna is voting for him, and her judgment in voting me was off. But a person's entitled to make mistakes.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pmHey LC, do you have any notable reads other than dunya? And what specifically in her post history is what led you to not believe her; like, if you were trying to convince me that she's bad news, what would should I consider then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm The thing about sig is, I'm not voting for him. The thing about Epi is, I can't read him for shit, but I'm not going to throw a vote at him for a possible mislynch, or more likely, a wasted vote when he decides he doesn't feel like being lynched and makes you all vote somewhere else.
I agree with this sentiment.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:09 pm I've read his ISO thrice. I don't get it. Why the heck are @MacDougall, @sig, and @Turnip Head voting for Nova
What is it about LC and JOH specifically?Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:51 pmRight now, I'm looking at LC, Jack and Epi.
I think the chain on nova is bad. Nova has read as sincere to me.
I think the chain on dunya is... not as bad as nova, but not great. As it stands I'd vote Epi to keep too people I have a much better read on than him, but he's definitely third in that group of three I mentioned.
I don't see what Luna voting me has to do with your own opinion of me. She's no more likely to be wrong about me as a result of being wrong about you. She's no more likely to be wrong about you as a result of being wrong about me.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pmNothing that big. I was getting suspicious of Golden there, and I can't decide if I should let it go. Then again, now Luna is voting for him, and her judgment in voting me was off. But a person's entitled to make mistakes.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pmHey LC, do you have any notable reads other than dunya? And what specifically in her post history is what led you to not believe her; like, if you were trying to convince me that she's bad news, what would should I consider then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm The thing about sig is, I'm not voting for him. The thing about Epi is, I can't read him for shit, but I'm not going to throw a vote at him for a possible mislynch, or more likely, a wasted vote when he decides he doesn't feel like being lynched and makes you all vote somewhere else.
I'm not that suspicious of most others, lots of my reading has been hasty catchup over thoughtful analysis.
I don't understand the nova thing, it seems like randomness.
Yeah, I know. I was just kidding around a little.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:53 pmI don't see what Luna voting me has to do with your own opinion of me. She's no more likely to be wrong about me as a result of being wrong about you. She's no more likely to be wrong about you as a result of being wrong about me.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pmNothing that big. I was getting suspicious of Golden there, and I can't decide if I should let it go. Then again, now Luna is voting for him, and her judgment in voting me was off. But a person's entitled to make mistakes.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pmHey LC, do you have any notable reads other than dunya? And what specifically in her post history is what led you to not believe her; like, if you were trying to convince me that she's bad news, what would should I consider then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm The thing about sig is, I'm not voting for him. The thing about Epi is, I can't read him for shit, but I'm not going to throw a vote at him for a possible mislynch, or more likely, a wasted vote when he decides he doesn't feel like being lynched and makes you all vote somewhere else.
I'm not that suspicious of most others, lots of my reading has been hasty catchup over thoughtful analysis.
I don't understand the nova thing, it seems like randomness.
I'm trusting my gut. I get really *off* vibes from LC, and when I've trusted them in the past they've paid off. I'm not certain by any means, normally I like a few phases to read him for sure, but I feel much better about it than any of the other things that have been going on.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:53 pmWhat is it about LC and JOH specifically?Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:51 pmRight now, I'm looking at LC, Jack and Epi.
I think the chain on nova is bad. Nova has read as sincere to me.
I think the chain on dunya is... not as bad as nova, but not great. As it stands I'd vote Epi to keep too people I have a much better read on than him, but he's definitely third in that group of three I mentioned.
Cool, thanks.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pmNothing that big. I was getting suspicious of Golden there, and I can't decide if I should let it go. Then again, now Luna is voting for him, and her judgment in voting me was off. But a person's entitled to make mistakes.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pmHey LC, do you have any notable reads other than dunya? And what specifically in her post history is what led you to not believe her; like, if you were trying to convince me that she's bad news, what would should I consider then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm The thing about sig is, I'm not voting for him. The thing about Epi is, I can't read him for shit, but I'm not going to throw a vote at him for a possible mislynch, or more likely, a wasted vote when he decides he doesn't feel like being lynched and makes you all vote somewhere else.
I'm not that suspicious of most others, lots of my reading has been hasty catchup over thoughtful analysis.
I don't understand the nova thing, it seems like randomness.
Turnip Head seems like a fine chap, I don't see any way I'll vote for him. Mac... hard guy to read, and the truth is that I get influenced by other peoples' reads sometimes. Some folks have given very strong Civ reads of him, and it makes me say "oh, is he being really Civvish? Ok!" And he rises higher on my mental rainbow list.
I suppose my gut isn't really telling me much of anything about either one of them. I'd say I feel about null.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:55 pmI'm trusting my gut. I get really *off* vibes from LC, and when I've trusted them in the past they've paid off. I'm not certain by any means, normally I like a few phases to read him for sure, but I feel much better about it than any of the other things that have been going on.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:53 pmWhat is it about LC and JOH specifically?Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:51 pmRight now, I'm looking at LC, Jack and Epi.
I think the chain on nova is bad. Nova has read as sincere to me.
I think the chain on dunya is... not as bad as nova, but not great. As it stands I'd vote Epi to keep too people I have a much better read on than him, but he's definitely third in that group of three I mentioned.
Jack it's just that so much of his content is flippant and meaningless.
Yeah, this describes well how I feel about Jack so far.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:29 pmI’ve brought this up before, and you’ve already touched on it. He seems silly and his investment is quite casual. I’m not sure if he’s just trying a different technique or what, but he was poking his nose in closets that didn’t need to be opened in GoC. Here it’s like he just lit a Yankee Doodle candle because he doesn’t feel like smelling cat hairSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:24 pmFirst of all, congrats on the big news, Jack! Is it a boy or girl?Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:21 pmI will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunnoSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.
Second, in what way does he seem different to you?
Not really. People love to vibe me wrong, and it tickles me.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:55 pmI'm trusting my gut. I get really *off* vibes from LC, and when I've trusted them in the past they've paid off.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:53 pmWhat is it about LC and JOH specifically?Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:51 pmRight now, I'm looking at LC, Jack and Epi.
I think the chain on nova is bad. Nova has read as sincere to me.
I think the chain on dunya is... not as bad as nova, but not great. As it stands I'd vote Epi to keep too people I have a much better read on than him, but he's definitely third in that group of three I mentioned.
That's what I meant. Here's an edit:Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:15 amThat s not what she said Epi. She said that someone has had a conversation with her on discord in which the comparison between Dom and other were made. The "to me" meant, it was said to me. Not that Dom was compared to other players and compared to her.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:22 amI find this super convincing.Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:27 pmDom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:17 pmnah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.
[VOTE: dunya] aubergine
I don't think she would have called on me to verify this had happened if she was making shit up. It would only make sense to do that if I were on her team and were to immediately come in and say yes, can confirm. Which is not what happened here at all. I can't recall the conversation but she and I have had many conversations since we met and it would not surprise me one bit if we had such a conversation. And frequently our conversations are in between just she and I, by DM. So you can't say unequivocally this conversation did not occur. I can't say I recall the exact conversation she is referring to, but I believe she is telling the truth because it's the only way her request to me makes any sense. I think this is a load of bullcrap case personally.
Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were conversations to you that was comparing Dom to others.
I thought it was fun.