Re: Easter Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:20 pm
Thanks, that must be the one (I completely forgot about that game lol).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:20 pmSure. Can you remind me of your most recent couple of mafia-aligned games? I think the GOC was one.
Yeah I was just looking there too. It wasn't that. I can't remember which game it was, or even if it was definitely Spacedaisy. It's of little consequence: your Choutas vote came at a suspect moment, Choutas's own posts make you look bad, and the weird night kill has marmot prints on it.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:23 pmThanks, that must be the one (I completely forgot about that game lol).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:20 pmSure. Can you remind me of your most recent couple of mafia-aligned games? I think the GOC was one.
This might be what you're thinking of. But even then, her suspicion was voiced differently then you describe.
Safe is probably the term I’d use for Colin at this point in the game.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:59 pmI mean, I disagree with “low-hanging fruit” but it is true that I’m aligning the active people as town right now. I didn’t really think of that like that. But if people are “acting weird” as you say, what’s bad about suspecting them?M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:57 pmYou mean like Colin is going after low hanging fruit, easy suspects? Yeah, I could see that. His reads are probably the "easiest"; i.e., his town reads are active and his mafia reads are relatively inactive or acting weird.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:52 pm Pages 8-9
Colini's posts reads like a scum player who wants to lynch the town player who deserves it the most.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:04 pm Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.
^Someone talk to me about this.
lol ok so his main suspect is lap (and I think Elo and Dys?The syntax of that sentence was weird) then slight shade to me and choutas.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:49 pm Okay, so reads:
JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.
I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.
Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.
Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.
“As I’ve said”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 pm I think there are better options than Choutas as I said, but I’d be fine with his lynch.
Needs to check when the poll ends, doesn’t want k Lynch JJJ.
So she votes because the spirits told her, but would have voted choutas if she were here, or so she says. Didn’t check when the poll ended, I’m assuming.
Sometimes on desktop, 100% on the phone. I’ll demonstrate now to you why.
Safe is probably the term I’d use for Colin at this point in the game.”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:59 pmI mean, I disagree with “low-hanging fruit” but it is true that I’m aligning the active people as town right now. I didn’t really think of that like that. But if people are “acting weird” as you say, what’s bad about suspecting them?M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:57 pmYou mean like Colin is going after low hanging fruit, easy suspects? Yeah, I could see that. His reads are probably the "easiest"; i.e., his town reads are active and his mafia reads are relatively inactive or acting weird.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:52 pm Pages 8-9
Colini's posts reads like a scum player who wants to lynch the town player who deserves it the most.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:04 pm Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.
^Someone talk to me about this.
lol ok so his main suspect is lap (and I think Elo and Dys?The syntax of that sentence was weird) then slight shade to me and choutas.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:49 pm Okay, so reads:
JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.
I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.
Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.
Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.
“As I’ve said”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 pm I think there are better options than Choutas as I said, but I’d be fine with his lynch.
Votes choutas early because “where you at” and never changes it. Even though he clearly has 2 people in darker colors, 1 of which is the same descriptor as choutas: “who is she”. I don’t think choutas really expected the train on choutas to take off like it did, but here we arewolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 7:12 pm Here's My Reads list, I'll try to provide a small quip next to each one (just in the order i saw them)
Order of the Manboob
Wolbre04 - lord and savior
JJJ - t/t argument with MP7, me and Lilefer have a similar way of playing as t/t against each other
Charlie Black Man
Knights of the Nipple
Kyle
Lapluie - compared to a previous civ game, u look good
Colin
Quin
Nova - fine except that JJJ vote
MP7 - Argument with Jay seems t/t
Marmot/Mac - got us info that makes laplui look pretty good
Quin
Choutas
Dizzy - dont like your vote on JJJ
Scotty - always wants me dead
Choutas - Who is she
Sekiy
Elohcin
Floyd - Who is she
really exhausted tbh, ima get some sleep, cya guys later
When asked about choutas’ regular play, he offers that chess usually is absent for times. So why is his vote there to begin with if his isn’t AI?
Then he takes credit for it regardless of his empty vote there.
“I don’t see a defense of choutas”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:00 pmSometimes on desktop, 100% on the phone. I’ll demonstrate now to you why.
“You got through most of day 1 pretty actively promoting not lynching JJJ and MP, and voting lap, though I’m not entirely sure why.Safe is probably the term I’d use for Colin at this point in the game.”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:59 pmI mean, I disagree with “low-hanging fruit” but it is true that I’m aligning the active people as town right now. I didn’t really think of that like that. But if people are “acting weird” as you say, what’s bad about suspecting them?M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:57 pmYou mean like Colin is going after low hanging fruit, easy suspects? Yeah, I could see that. His reads are probably the "easiest"; i.e., his town reads are active and his mafia reads are relatively inactive or acting weird.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:52 pm Pages 8-9
Colini's posts reads like a scum player who wants to lynch the town player who deserves it the most.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:04 pm Yeah, having read the case against Jay, I don’t see anything I wouldn’t expect from his town behavior. I don’t see the case on Dizzy and I’d prefer not to vote Floyd, but between those two, if a replacement’s not happening I won’t lose sleep lynching someone not even in the thread.
^Someone talk to me about this.
Read about one sentence above in the post of mine you quote for why I disagree with this.
“Also I’m almost done with his iso and he still hasn’t mentioned choutas but once.“
What’s that indicative of, exactly?
“lol ok so his main suspect is lap (and I think Elo and Dys?The syntax of that sentence was weird) then slight shade to me and choutas.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:49 pm Okay, so reads:
JJJ, MP seem town. I’ve explained why for JJJ but MP also feels earnest and interested in solving the game. Epi seems to be playing as I have always seen him (town) so I can get behind him for now too.
I liked the cases made earlier on lapluie, Eloh, and I understood J’s ire toward Dyslexicon so I guess those are the biggest suspects. Because Marmot made one of those cases (lapluie) I would townread him too.
Scotty feels different to me from AG, where he was town, but maybe I’m not accustomed to his playstyle in general. Wolbre is playing similar to what I’ve seen but people have asked good questions of him and I don’t think he really addressed them. Choutas, as others have said, flying so far below radar I forgot he was here — not good. Slight scum lean on gut or soul or whatever.
Floyd, nothing. Nova, really not sure. Everybody I didn’t talk about, idk.
Definitely safe reads all around though. Nothing condemning.
This came like 40 min before EoD:“As I’ve said”ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 9:07 pm I think there are better options than Choutas as I said, but I’d be fine with his lynch.
no you didn’t. You said you preferred lap and read him as slight scum lean.”
You just said I thought lap, Elo and Dys as better options like, five lines up. So which one is it gonna be?
“Bad look. I don’t like how your only mentionof choutas was slight scum and even at the end you slightly defend him.
I lean bad on Colin right now.
Where are you now on lap? And what has changed in reads for you?”
First of all I don’t see a defense of Choutas. I have no reason to defend someone I lean scum on. Second, nothinf has happened to change my mind on lap. There are no townie points for me there, but other people have since done more — and pinged me more.
In terms of suspicion, I thought Choutas was more suspicious by a good margin actually. But he was already getting lynched at that point. I focused my energy into a suspect that didn't have a lot of attention at him at the time. It's rather typical of me. Try to poke the potential scum overlooked if I can. Even if I exaggerated some of my concerns with Colins a bit to see how I felt, I still see a lot of stuff that points to town for him, and his tone is good, so it's more likely he's town is what I think right now. In terms of post lynch Colin had a post where he explicitly said he thught Choutas was not the best lynch target when it was clear Choutas was most likely the lynch. It would be a bit weird if they were teamed to say that. Does this make sense?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:45 pmI don’t quite understand the jump for Colin into civ territory and it looks like neither do you. Do you have a better idea of how that jumped?
And lol I’m “meh compared to last game”![]()
I could be convinced that dys only had choutas on his belt pouch and not on his back because he suspected Colin more, and I could be convinced that that side eye to choutas was a slight distance in the case of this lynch happening as it did. But I’m in the camp that dys is good right now. Just curious of how hisnread of Colin has changed
Ima look at Colin next
Eh, yeah. Do you do like read lists and stuff? Cause that would be cool.
Yeah, I can put one together later tonight when I’m back on desktop.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:25 pmEh, yeah. Do you do like read lists and stuff? Cause that would be cool.![]()
So aside from my vote, you suspect me because of circumstantial events that I can't defend against.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:26 pmYeah I was just looking there too. It wasn't that. I can't remember which game it was, or even if it was definitely Spacedaisy. It's of little consequence: your Choutas vote came at a suspect moment, Choutas's own posts make you look bad, and the weird night kill has marmot prints on it.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:23 pmThanks, that must be the one (I completely forgot about that game lol).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:20 pmSure. Can you remind me of your most recent couple of mafia-aligned games? I think the GOC was one.
This might be what you're thinking of. But even then, her suspicion was voiced differently then you describe.
I mean, I can answer to that- you had 0 suspicion of choutas hntik that moment at the end when you jumped, which basically said ‘well, i ordered steel toed boots, but these flip flops they sent me will work!”Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:55 pmSo aside from my vote, you suspect me because of circumstantial events that I can't defend against.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:26 pmYeah I was just looking there too. It wasn't that. I can't remember which game it was, or even if it was definitely Spacedaisy. It's of little consequence: your Choutas vote came at a suspect moment, Choutas's own posts make you look bad, and the weird night kill has marmot prints on it.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:23 pmThanks, that must be the one (I completely forgot about that game lol).JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 3:20 pmSure. Can you remind me of your most recent couple of mafia-aligned games? I think the GOC was one.
This might be what you're thinking of. But even then, her suspicion was voiced differently then you describe.
Why is my the timing of my vote suspect?
My reason for suspecting you didn't hold up, so I don't really suspect you right now.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:29 pm Also, feel weird to ask this, but those who suspect me, what's your thoughts and stuff? Cause I don't feel real suspicion. Marmot, etc?
You’re saying you exaggerated your bad read of him at the time? It just seems like a jump as your vote at the end of day 1 ito the rainbow from today. Which posts do you find of his that swayed you? Or was it an overall tone, non-specific kind of thing?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:19 pmIn terms of suspicion, I thought Choutas was more suspicious by a good margin actually. But he was already getting lynched at that point. I focused my energy into a suspect that didn't have a lot of attention at him at the time. It's rather typical of me. Try to poke the potential scum overlooked if I can. Even if I exaggerated some of my concerns with Colins a bit to see how I felt, I still see a lot of stuff that points to town for him, and his tone is good, so it's more likely he's town is what I think right now. In terms of post lynch Colin had a post where he explicitly said he thught Choutas was not the best lynch target when it was clear Choutas was most likely the lynch. It would be a bit weird if they were teamed to say that. Does this make sense?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 2:45 pmI don’t quite understand the jump for Colin into civ territory and it looks like neither do you. Do you have a better idea of how that jumped?
And lol I’m “meh compared to last game”![]()
I could be convinced that dys only had choutas on his belt pouch and not on his back because he suspected Colin more, and I could be convinced that that side eye to choutas was a slight distance in the case of this lynch happening as it did. But I’m in the camp that dys is good right now. Just curious of how hisnread of Colin has changed
Ima look at Colin next
Nobody was talking about Choutas when I left the thread. When I came back near the deadline, I think he was leading the lynch. So yes, I was going to look into him then.
A cow painted purple is still a cowColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:13 pm That’s not a defense. It’s an acknowledgement that he’s lower on my list than some, but not as low as others — hardly an endorsement for his town portfolio.
why ask permission? I think you and Mp where the last 2 to vote there, but I also don’t know what the totals of everyone else were at the time.
Before MP and I changed votes, it looked something like this. I had my vote on lapluie, and MP had his on Elohcin.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:35 pmwhy ask permission? I think you and Mp where the last 2 to vote there, but I also don’t know what the totals of everyone else were at the time.
It could be said on one hand that you and MP drove the nail in the coffin and would be looking pretty, but I don’t know how much of choutas’ lynch was going towards inevitability at that point.
Does anyone remember what the votals were before Mp and marmot switched?
After we switched votes, it looked like this.4 - Choutas
2 - Dizzy
2 - Elohcin
2 - lapluie
6 - Choutas
2 - Dizzy
1 - Elohcin
1 - lapluie
Yeah, but you colored me orange. And while I look good in orange, I don't know if it's a tentative read or something else. I don't feel particularly questioned. I actually don't remember if there's other people. : pMarmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:04 pmMy reason for suspecting you didn't hold up, so I don't really suspect you right now.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:29 pm Also, feel weird to ask this, but those who suspect me, what's your thoughts and stuff? Cause I don't feel real suspicion. Marmot, etc?
Are there other people that still suspect you?
My vote was more for pressure and kind of a "I mean business!" when I interacted with him. Overall he looked fine, but a kind of "fine" that could still be scum played smartly, and throughout my catch up he read like not really being here, like a commentator more than a player. I guess he has both bad and good tone at the same time. I don't think I can list a bunch of specifics in my read on him, at least not the stuff that points towards him being scum. It was more of a hunch I wanted to pursue. I've kind of lost interest.
I second this actually. I also don't like that he was the one to be like "no but the kill was actually clever come on guyezzz" for more or less silly reasons, but like, I think Quin would be a player that would be low key bothered if other players called his play not smart. : p Does that make sense?ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:17 pm Oh and I forgot Quin ... Quin is pretty inscrutable to me and I don't like that.
Funny you say that in a game where we lynch mafia on Day 1.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:48 pm Mafia is a hard game, especially on Cindy Kate. Why is that?
Yeah, my rainbow was a GTH read of sorts, though my scumread of you is quite weak.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:38 pmYeah, but you colored me orange. And while I look good in orange, I don't know if it's a tentative read or something else. I don't feel particularly questioned. I actually don't remember if there's other people. : pMarmot wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 5:04 pmMy reason for suspecting you didn't hold up, so I don't really suspect you right now.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:29 pm Also, feel weird to ask this, but those who suspect me, what's your thoughts and stuff? Cause I don't feel real suspicion. Marmot, etc?
Are there other people that still suspect you?
It's still a hard game.
This is why he's a bad eggDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 6:36 pmUh... haven't we been through this a couple of times now?
I don't know, how strongly do you suspect me?
What are you referring to in this post?Charlie Blackmon wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 11:00 pm wolbre04 should be go next. I'm surprised this JaggedJimmyJay guy didn't comment on what I had to say about him, and instead said I had done nothing.
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 4:27 pm Does anyone know what Lapluie looks like as mafia?
Also, what is up with Eloh? She directly accuses Wolbre, and when Wolbre calls it out she1s like "why are you putting words in my mouth"? How do players who knows Eloh read this?