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Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:48 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Clearing out inactives is a fine use of a vig shot early on tbh. Agree that scum rarely NK them though unless they need gamestate to remain the same

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:49 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Why is the Sloonei lynch a thing

I mean sure he pooped the bed with dragomir but he seems to have a civ perspective to me.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 am
by sig
Im down for a rej lynch not feeling sloonie or boo

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:47 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:26 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:16 am
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:20 am moving my ddl vote to nutella.

keeping my other vote on boo. he makes me feel icky icky. like he got bad intentions towards me. :puppy:
Why on earth is Nutella scum? Her town and scum games are night and day different. She’s obviously town here. Plus we’ve mindmelded at least twice.
because she doesnt seem entirely town to me.
That’s not a reason.
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:26 am jack is obsessed with me.
That I am.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:52 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Boo
ColinisCool
Creature
Dom
Dragomir
Dragon D. Luffy
dunya
JackofHearts2005
Long Con
MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella
Rej
sig
Sloonei
Speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime
Zemmi

JaggedJimmyJay

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] enjoy
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] now hand me the Creature read plz

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:16 pm
by speedchuck
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:21 am i'm not sure i understand the "rej" case. is it a case of if dom and drago were both town, the third most talked about person was rej so he must have been bad? i mean it's not a terrible case, but is that the extent of it or is there more?
I originally voted Rej because of his weaselly language when asked a direct question. And I haven't really been here since.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:19 pm
by speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:23 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:13 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:10 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:08 am I’m here for fifteen minutes. Please say things I can react to so I can feel like a participatory member of this game.
You’re scum for lying low yesterday.
This is a WIFOM trap and I don’t like it.
Interesting. Explain.
There is basically no normal response I could give to the post that I (and presumably you) wouldn’t be able to read and create an argument for in either direction. Now you’ve played with me a few times and so I’m not doubting that as best as I try to hide it I’d give off a sort of meta tone read but I don’t think it’s consistent.
So like:

General list of defenses

Angry response
apology
Shrug off
Meta defense
:feb:

I can’t say which of these I’d be more likely to give as scum or town. Probably depends more on my mood and like whatever comes to mind first. There are players who I think I would have a better idea of what they’d do but that can be manipulated too.
:ponder: Being this analytical about your responses pings me. Considering the reaction a person will have to every single response seems manipulative and emotionally detached. Town folk have no such need, and can rely on sincerity.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:21 pm
by speedchuck
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:48 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:23 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:13 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:10 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:08 am I’m here for fifteen minutes. Please say things I can react to so I can feel like a participatory member of this game.
You’re scum for lying low yesterday.
This is a WIFOM trap and I don’t like it.
Interesting. Explain.
There is basically no normal response I could give to the post that I (and presumably you) wouldn’t be able to read and create an argument for in either direction. Now you’ve played with me a few times and so I’m not doubting that as best as I try to hide it I’d give off a sort of meta tone read but I don’t think it’s consistent.
So like:

General list of defenses

Angry response
apology
Shrug off
Meta defense
:feb:

I can’t say which of these I’d be more likely to give as scum or town. Probably depends more on my mood and like whatever comes to mind first. There are players who I think I would have a better idea of what they’d do but that can be manipulated too.
I don't get this post and I kinda think it's scummy
ohno I agreed with nutella on something

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:23 pm
by speedchuck
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:04 am I’m going to submit one of my two half-finished games to the next Job queue. Should I do Radiohead or Fringe?
Radiohead

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:24 pm
by speedchuck
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:41 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:58 am My positive interpretation is that Tony responded to my question very assertively. Scum Tony might have fallen into any of those traps he listed.

My negative interpretation is that Scum Tony is clever enough to come up with an assertive response to a question like that. He doesn’t want to appear soft, so he throws the question back in my face.

Typing it out now, I actually think I feel more strongly about the latter. Interesting.
I think town Tony is more likely to not want to appear soft I can do a self analysis if you want but it’s all WIFOM.
scumslip

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:24 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
I don’t see anything in Creature’s iso that looks particularly townie. Bigger first to fry, tho. Willing to give him another day.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:25 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

What do you think of Dunya?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:25 pm
by speedchuck
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:25 pm @speedchuck

What do you think of Dunya?
I will look at her. I think I've missed 90% of her posts.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:28 pm
by speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:34 am
boo wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:21 pm [VOTE: zemmi] aubergine for one vote as a start, at this point if we have to lynch two people one of my votes is probably gonna be a policy vote, so will get it out of the way now.
This is terrible.

[VOTE: Boo] aubergine
nah

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:28 pm
by nutella
speedchuck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:41 am
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:58 am My positive interpretation is that Tony responded to my question very assertively. Scum Tony might have fallen into any of those traps he listed.

My negative interpretation is that Scum Tony is clever enough to come up with an assertive response to a question like that. He doesn’t want to appear soft, so he throws the question back in my face.

Typing it out now, I actually think I feel more strongly about the latter. Interesting.
I think town Tony is more likely to not want to appear soft I can do a self analysis if you want but it’s all WIFOM.
scumslip
lolno

I suspect Tony but you're misreading this

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by speedchuck
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:31 am Dunya’s reads are garbo.
what the actual fuck. how are my reads "garbo" and how are yours any better. :suspish:
This feels like an overreaction, but I didn't see the reads yet

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by nutella
why is anyone voting for boo wtf

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by Sloonei
At some point today I would like to develop some actual reads. Not now. But eventually.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
by boo
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm At some point today I would like to develop some actual reads. Not now. But eventually.
#goals

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm
by speedchuck
boo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Which two?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:33 pm
by nutella
boo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Do you think sloonei and LC are teammates??? I don't see it tbh. I think sloonei was buddying LC. I could entertain dunya being scum though :shrug2:

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:34 pm
by nutella
speedchuck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm
boo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Which two?
I assume the two he's voting for.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:36 pm
by boo
speedchuck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm
boo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Which two?
LC and Sloonei. Dunya could be too, there's nothing that rules it out, I just don't have much of a read one way or the other right now. The waiting around to see the night post when it meant staying up past 4am seemed civ, but a lot of other stuff has seemed mafia.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:37 pm
by speedchuck
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:34 pm
speedchuck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:32 pm
boo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Which two?
I assume the two he's voting for.
:biggrin: okay

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:39 pm
by speedchuck
I'm not sure how to read DGAF Dunya (AKA dunya v3 according to her posts). But I think her reads have been consistent, and she noted when they changed. That's a plus. [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Would not lynch today.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:39 pm
by boo
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:33 pm
boo wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:31 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm why is anyone voting for boo wtf
You mean like you did in inception? :meany:

At least in this case two of my voters are mafia.
Do you think sloonei and LC are teammates??? I don't see it tbh. I think sloonei was buddying LC. I could entertain dunya being scum though :shrug2:
I think it's possible. That could just be distancing, given LCs reaction to it. And if I have one of them wrong, I Dunya also has no reasons she wouldn't fit as the second. So 2/3 makes sense to me. 3/3 just seems like a paranoid claim so I avoided saying that. But even that's possible... :shrug: this is the problem with two civ wagons D1.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:42 pm
by speedchuck
[unvote]Jack[VOTE: [TSP]] aubergine

I'm still leery on Jack for some reason. I've been trying to read him like he's alternate-universe me, and I probably need to stop doing that.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm
by Sloonei
I have no idea why boo is voting for me. I’m also unclear on the exact nature of nutella’s suspicion of me, but i’n used to that being the case.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:46 pm
by nutella
I feel like I can't even do my token "oh no jack is buddying me" anymore because he really just reads me that well when he's town too. But he could be scum.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:49 pm
by nutella
Actually jack when was the last time we were town together?? We were scum in hydra, you knew I was scum in Aussie, and i was town and you were scum in inception. I actually am not sure if I should believe what I said in the previous post bc maybe you are just buddying me and I'm just always right about it like I was in inception. :D

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:00 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:42 pm [unvote]Jack[VOTE: [TSP]] aubergine

I'm still leery on Jack for some reason. I've been trying to read him like he's alternate-universe me, and I probably need to stop doing that.
But I am an alternative universe you.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:02 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:49 pm Actually jack when was the last time we were town together?? We were scum in hydra, you knew I was scum in Aussie, and i was town and you were scum in inception. I actually am not sure if I should believe what I said in the previous post bc maybe you are just buddying me and I'm just always right about it like I was in inception. :D
Idk. It’s been awhile. I think I’ve caught (for certain definitions of caught) you as scum 3 times this year and I’ve randed scum like 6 times this year and you weren’t on my team at all.

I correctly townread you in both your champs games but I technically wasn’t town.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:07 pm
by speedchuck
Been diving into ISOs.

Would not lynch:
Boo
Dragon D. Luffy
Dunya
Long Con

sig has been busy, but I liked his player salad post. Felt organic.
Zemmi isn't here.
Sloonei's questions sometimes feel incomplete, like he's missing context or just not really forming opinions before saying things. I didn't like his flip on TSP after asking the question. Like "Oh, people think this was scummy, I see that now." Independent of TSP's alignment, that grates. Everything else about Sloonei is gucci.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME is having was too much fun to be scum
Creature posts like he has a content restriction on his posts. Word count or thought count. Somehow.
Coliniscool's post #595 is probably the most interesting post he has in this game. Little content in his ISO, even less of it counts, but there are a few nuggests of silver
Jackofhearts2005's posts are like mega blocks. They fit together, but don't stay together in a strong set. I know his reads, but not how strong they hold or whether they're related... and IDK why dunya still.

I'm gonna go write a book. See ya.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:07 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
It’s honestly not worth ever worrying about my alignment. I’m unlynchable so what’s the point in trying to read me? :haha:

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:08 pm
by Sloonei
How do some people get to be scum so often? I feel like the Halley’s Comet of bad guys over here.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:08 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:08 pm How do some people get to be scum so often? I feel like the Halley’s Comet of bad guys over here.
Bribery, mostly.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:21 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
[mention]nutella[/mention]

Talk to me about Speedchuck.
Spoiler: show
This is a joke.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:22 pm
by nutella
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm I have no idea why boo is voting for me. I’m also unclear on the exact nature of nutella’s suspicion of me, but i’n used to that being the case.
I just feel it in my bones :noble:

But like, to put part of it into words, and I think others have said similar things:. You're asking empty questions, which is generally your MO, except they feel particularly insincere/like your heart is not really in them. You, along with speed, are saying things just to say things and asking questions you could easily find the answers to yourself so it looks to me like you're trying to fluff your post count up to emulate your town game while not fully showing the spirit of it.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:22 pm
by nutella
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:21 pm @nutella

Talk to me about Speedchuck.
Spoiler: show
This is a joke.
He's a fantastic writer and we should let him do that instead of playing this game :nicenod:

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:25 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:22 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:21 pm @nutella

Talk to me about Speedchuck.
Spoiler: show
This is a joke.
He's a fantastic writer and we should let him do that instead of playing this game :nicenod:
What’s he writing?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:29 pm
by Sloonei
nutella wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:44 pm I have no idea why boo is voting for me. I’m also unclear on the exact nature of nutella’s suspicion of me, but i’n used to that being the case.
I just feel it in my bones :noble:

But like, to put part of it into words, and I think others have said similar things:. You're asking empty questions, which is generally your MO, except they feel particularly insincere/like your heart is not really in them. You, along with speed, are saying things just to say things and asking questions you could easily find the answers to yourself so it looks to me like you're trying to fluff your post count up to emulate your town game while not fully showing the spirit of it.
Nah. Just trying to read people in the moment when I’m here.

I plan on doing some ISOs this evening. Stay tuned.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:35 pm
by Rej
Image
just caught up give me some time to take stances :llama:

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:47 pm
by dunya
I town read sloonei after the night was over because he got upset about me calling his LC read "meek" and used the word fuck to emphasize his dissatisfaction.

Y'all can laugh, I'm cashing my townie sloonei in the bank.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:49 pm
by dunya
speedchuck wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:29 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:07 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:31 am Dunya’s reads are garbo.
what the actual fuck. how are my reads "garbo" and how are yours any better. :suspish:
This feels like an overreaction, but I didn't see the reads yet
This is just my humorous way of talking to Jack now. I have been annoyed in this game literally 0 times. I am very chill and enjoying the hell out of myself.

But jack's my bitch. A backstabbing one. ;)

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:51 pm
by dunya
sig wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 am Im down for a rej lynch not feeling sloonie or boo
Why aren't you feeling boo? What has boo done to gain your confidence?

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:53 pm
by dunya
Tbf to sloonei and other undergrads and postgrads, it's finals time. I appreciate anyone being present during this time, thank you!

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:54 pm
by Sloonei
dunya wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:53 pm Tbf to sloonei and other undergrads and postgrads, it's finals time. I appreciate anyone being present during this time, thank you!
Yh that’s why i’m not doing ISOs right now. I’ve got a dang thesis to write. And i’m procrastinating lime hell.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:54 pm
by Sloonei
Like Hell is just a really ugly waiting room where everything is painted a different shade of putrid green.

Re: The Wire Mafia

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:55 pm
by Sloonei
Wow I made a typo and tried to mar a joke about my typo but typo’d the typo and wrote the correct word instead. I’m leaving. Goodbye.