Re: Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [DAY 2]
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:42 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I can't even tell whether or not you're accusing me here.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:47 am I don't see why you felt the need to use the most violent colours on this post but I can tell you, if you are villager that we are back to square 1 and you after few games still are unable to understand me. Shame of you sir.
I was honest, but like usual sincerity doesn't pay off.
I don't accept your take, is fake reasoning again. You and your Poe and your exercises, you jump on me again like Dizzy did in day 1 and this is the way to loose the game for town only because you think I said what i didn't say.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULDN'T KILL M7 IF YOU WERE WOLF.
And the best reason is he was town reading you. The question is, are you wolf? Because if you are not the answer at the question is as useless as mine. I would kill him BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE I AM VILLAGER.
Mac was fairly obvious town imo. Like I said I don't think he would do something like that big case on d1 as scum. Also he wasn't around so the cfd on him was just rude
This is a sense I'm getting from a lot of Michelle's recent posts. I don't know what her reads actually are.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:43 pm
I can't even tell whether or not you're accusing me here.
Like this, this is fake shade. Yeah, there are possibilities in the matrix for only one town PR and an extra vanilla, but are you suggesting that Jack assuming there are two is a slip or something? I don't get it. Lame attempt at a gotcha.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:36 am Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum
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Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.How do you know there may be 2 PRs?
Also yeah I thought you more or less agreed with me on Mac. But now you're trying to call me out on it?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:44 pmYou were suspicious of the people who voted for Mac. What changed?
You ignored my questions. So yes, you ignored me. Doesn't matter how many times you read me wrong, I know I told you at least once about this and I don't remember to see an answer at my post.
I think. I don't accept a stale read non deserved.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:44 pmYou were suspicious of the people who voted for Mac. What changed?
Why are you so concerned about Jack?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:50 pmLike this, this is fake shade. Yeah, there are possibilities in the matrix for only one town PR and an extra vanilla, but are you suggesting that Jack assuming there are two is a slip or something? I don't get it. Lame attempt at a gotcha.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:36 am Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum
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Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.How do you know there may be 2 PRs?
I still don't know what you're talking about. When was it? Help me out?
That rainbow read list. Looks bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:44 pmYou were suspicious of the people who voted for Mac. What changed?
What?Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:08 pmWhy are you so concerned about Jack?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:50 pmLike this, this is fake shade. Yeah, there are possibilities in the matrix for only one town PR and an extra vanilla, but are you suggesting that Jack assuming there are two is a slip or something? I don't get it. Lame attempt at a gotcha.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:36 am Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum
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Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.How do you know there may be 2 PRs?
Can you rephrase this pleaseMichelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:05 pmI think. I don't accept a stale read non deserved.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:44 pmYou were suspicious of the people who voted for Mac. What changed?
Also not my favorite.Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:36 pmEnough to voteM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pmHow strongly do you believe in this suspicion?Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:13 pm Day was full of homechores, now I am back :-)A role cop is a cop who's result is tne role of the target no matter AI.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:36 amOk, I see the matrix setup now. No wonder nobody reacted to my "it says two scum in the OP". =p
A role cop is someone who cop town to see what role they have, vanilla or otherwise.
So first you vote me witout any concern about my AI and you associate me at random and now you lie about what a role cop does. You posted other cop role smh
You are bad Dizzy![]()
[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine
I had a TR on Svs day 1. At Eod I said she is not present, and I realised her 'case' on me is fake. Today Jack came but I don't think town Jack would make that reads list. So I am reevaluating an old read because is not deserved.
[mention]Michelle[/mention] this was sometime after you asked me that. I guess I never responded to you directly, I apologize for that, but if you have read my posts you should have some idea of my reads. To update this a bit, Nanook is tentatively moved up for the claim, Epi is tentatively moved up for probably not killing MP, and the SVS/Jack slot moved down a bit for poe reasons and something that vaguely pinged me when he came into the thread last night. That leaves you and LC as the most likely scum in my eyes.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:40 pmSVSJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:37 pm I feel like everyone should have a pretty developed POE pool right now. There are seven not-yous and two of them are no good. Even two solid civilian reads nets a workable reduction, and I think we can do better than that.
Let's go.
Jay
MP
Michelle
LC
Epi
Nanook
What make you say it's fake shade? I didn't adress at you more than the discontent of you ignoring my posts. and when I attack Jack you have something to tell me so fast.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:09 pmWhat?Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:08 pmWhy are you so concerned about Jack?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:50 pmLike this, this is fake shade. Yeah, there are possibilities in the matrix for only one town PR and an extra vanilla, but are you suggesting that Jack assuming there are two is a slip or something? I don't get it. Lame attempt at a gotcha.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:36 am Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum
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Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.How do you know there may be 2 PRs?
OK but from my perspective you're only half addressing Jay's question here. You're explaining why Jack became a priority suspect, but you're not explaining why you've completely stopped caring about the Mac train and in fact turned around and shaded me for defending Mac when I thought you agreed with me that the train was bad. Can you talk more about that?Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:13 pmI had a TR on Svs day 1. At Eod I said she is not present, and I realised her 'case' on me is fake. Today Jack came but I don't think town Jack would make that reads list. So I am reevaluating an old read because is not deserved.
This has little to do with Jack specifically at all. I'm not defending him. I'm calling out a bad take that happened to be directed at him. Why are you deflecting?Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:17 pmWhat make you say it's fake shade? I didn't adress at you more than the discontent of you ignoring my posts. and when I attack Jack you have something to tell me so fast.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:09 pmWhat?Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:08 pmWhy are you so concerned about Jack?nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:50 pmLike this, this is fake shade. Yeah, there are possibilities in the matrix for only one town PR and an extra vanilla, but are you suggesting that Jack assuming there are two is a slip or something? I don't get it. Lame attempt at a gotcha.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 amJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:36 am Town
Jack
Nutella
Dys/Jay
.....
Nanook
Epi
.....
Michelle
LC
.....
.....
Scum
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Unless both power roles are in Nutella and Jay, we can pretty well guarantee a wolf lynch today since there's very likely 2 wolves in a 4 player POE and two innocent children.How do you know there may be 2 PRs?
So you are concerned about Jack.
Cool so Jack went down for a certain not exposed reason, but I am the baddie. With LC. I know LC defended me but that, even if he is scum, doesn't make me scum. You don't look at all interested in solving, but in throwing someone on the chopping blocknutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:16 pm@Michelle this was sometime after you asked me that. I guess I never responded to you directly, I apologize for that, but if you have read my posts you should have some idea of my reads. To update this a bit, Nanook is tentatively moved up for the claim, Epi is tentatively moved up for probably not killing MP, and the SVS/Jack slot moved down a bit for poe reasons and something that vaguely pinged me when he came into the thread last night. That leaves you and LC as the most likely scum in my eyes.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:40 pmSVSJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:37 pm I feel like everyone should have a pretty developed POE pool right now. There are seven not-yous and two of them are no good. Even two solid civilian reads nets a workable reduction, and I think we can do better than that.
Let's go.
Jay
MP
Michelle
LC
Epi
Nanook
I am not deflecting, I see you defending Jack. I see Jack having most probably TMI and presenting infos he shouldn't know.
I don't view what he said as TMI. I feel like you're purposefully ignoring what my actual point is.
[mention]Michelle[/mention] please talk about this.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:46 am Credit to Jack though for bringing this post up, because now that I see it I hate it.![]()
1) Dizzy didn't "lie" about what a role cop does. In this setup with two factions, it's exactly what Dizzy said it was.
2) Why would Dizzy even lie about that? What?
3) Why is that suspicious?
This is pure shade, and it's bad. Michelle is bad.
Yes. When the game has players that can each one talk good enough to keep themselves out of suspicion the only clues that can be found in the thread are the TMI moments. I wish to know if your read on Mac is not TMI. I see that wagon on Mac formed by LC, Jay and Nanook. And M7 but that is less important.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:18 pmOK but from my perspective you're only half addressing Jay's question here. You're explaining why Jack became a priority suspect, but you're not explaining why you've completely stopped caring about the Mac train and in fact turned around and shaded me for defending Mac when I thought you agreed with me that the train was bad. Can you talk more about that?Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:13 pmI had a TR on Svs day 1. At Eod I said she is not present, and I realised her 'case' on me is fake. Today Jack came but I don't think town Jack would make that reads list. So I am reevaluating an old read because is not deserved.
Explain your point, mayne i didn't get it.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:28 pmI don't view what he said as TMI. I feel like you're purposefully ignoring what my actual point is.
If I'm scum and I have TMI that there are two roles instead of 1, it would mean the mafia has exactly the roleblocker and we're in exactly one of two setups out of a possible six.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:37 pmExplain your point, mayne i didn't get it.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:28 pmI don't view what he said as TMI. I feel like you're purposefully ignoring what my actual point is.
To me it looked like you were calling out Jack saying "both PRs" as potential TMI/slip. I think that's an unfair judgment to make on his wording. There's no reason not to assume there are two PRs.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:37 pmExplain your point, mayne i didn't get it.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:28 pmI don't view what he said as TMI. I feel like you're purposefully ignoring what my actual point is.
i did. I said I didn't read the matrix carefully. I didn't notice the role cope is only scum .JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:33 pm@Michelle please talk about this.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:46 am Credit to Jack though for bringing this post up, because now that I see it I hate it.![]()
1) Dizzy didn't "lie" about what a role cop does. In this setup with two factions, it's exactly what Dizzy said it was.
2) Why would Dizzy even lie about that? What?
3) Why is that suspicious?
This is pure shade, and it's bad. Michelle is bad.
Was the meaning of his post that he 'assumed'?. I think it looked like an affirmative sentence without doubt.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:40 pmTo me it looked like you were calling out Jack saying "both PRs" as potential TMI/slip. I think that's an unfair judgment to make on his wording. There's no reason not to assume there are two PRs.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:37 pmExplain your point, mayne i didn't get it.nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:28 pmI don't view what he said as TMI. I feel like you're purposefully ignoring what my actual point is.
Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pmAlright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?
you are not helpful.
Sometimes wolves just lie. RIP Benson.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pmAlright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?
It's an explanation.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:43 pmI can't even tell whether or not you're accusing me here.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:47 am I don't see why you felt the need to use the most violent colours on this post but I can tell you, if you are villager that we are back to square 1 and you after few games still are unable to understand me. Shame of you sir.
I was honest, but like usual sincerity doesn't pay off.
I don't accept your take, is fake reasoning again. You and your Poe and your exercises, you jump on me again like Dizzy did in day 1 and this is the way to loose the game for town only because you think I said what i didn't say.
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU WOULDN'T KILL M7 IF YOU WERE WOLF.
And the best reason is he was town reading you. The question is, are you wolf? Because if you are not the answer at the question is as useless as mine. I would kill him BUT I DIDN'T BECAUSE I AM VILLAGER.
Yikes this is badMichelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pmIdk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pmAlright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?