The Syndicate

Good afternoon. I will not backread anything except Scotty's ISO.

[VOTE: motel room] aubergine

Scotty
4
Voters: RondoDimBuckle, Master Radishes, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya

Wagon was tied for top. Anyone could have shifted at any time. They held fast to the wagon. Nightkill was on wagon. I am taking all of these to be cleared for now. tutuu and Dyson also seem spewed town by Scotty's ISO.

damn am i tripping i coulda sworn i iso'd scotty after the chop and i saw mentions of falcon and i was like "AHA, GOTCHA BITCH". mmm where'd they go

Alison check falcon for me

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 pm Alison check falcon for me

I don't have a PR. If you intended to give one to me, it was waylayed.

i agree that dyson is spewed town from wagons

i noted that mizery voted at the last second, for falcon. he let the two 4-4 wolf-town wagons stay tied, and voted for falcon, putting him at 3 votes. so i think mizery is clear

I am sorry but you will not get top form Alison this game. I was on a month break from mafia for personal reasons and I only subbed into this game to help Syn out. JJJ killed a scum D1 so I will sheep him. Mac is probably scum for voting town JJJ. Nanook is probably scum for sheeping Mac onto a bad vote. motel room is probably scum because Scotty treated him really awkwardly. tutuu says there's some interactions with falcon and I think she's town so I'll trust her.

That's all I have for now.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:17 pm i agree that dyson is spewed town from wagons

i noted that mizery voted at the last second, for falcon. he let the two 4-4 wolf-town wagons stay tied, and voted for falcon, putting him at 3 votes. so i think mizery is clear

This is a good point yeah. Weird move for scum to make.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:11 pm Interactions of Scotty and Nanook

From Scotty

Scotty did not mention Nanook a single time in the game.

From Nanook

Spoiler: show

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:39 pm Tsp 78.6
Scotty 82

Not a confident read but he seems to be not partnered with a few different people so thats enough to bump him over rand

This appears to be Nanook's only mention of Scotty. By the numbers this functions as the slightest of town reads, based upon perceived lack of partners. I shrug.

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Conclusion

I have no reason to remove Nanook from the POE pool. He can be Scotty's teammate.

I could've easily saved scotty

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:31 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:13 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 9:11 am Exactly what I said

My interpretation, and I'd imagine dunya's given her commentary, is that it was sarcasm (and I found that sarcasm suspicious). So you're saying then that you were then and remain now on board with voting out low posters. Correct? Just for the sake of total clarity.

Yep, I agreed with tutuu with my Poe at the time being lomo/dyson/falcon.

As of now-
I’d still be down with dyson, because that slot is either super newby wolf or just an awkward town. If I had my fritters, they’d be the lynch today but that looks unlikely.
Falcon is not even most sus to me right now, hence me switching to dunya, but I can still see it.

oh this is the line i thought was w/w

if its not falcon + alison imma look at, uhh...

TSP, Mac, Axehole in some order

i think Nook is town from his interaction with Jay from yesterday, i TR it

rondo obv clear. i still tr motel room a lot. but could be wrong might relook at that

I think falcon is borderline spewed scum, Dyson Jay and rondo are nearly always town

Interactions of Scotty and TonyStarkPrime

From Scotty


Green: Scotty accused Rondo of being a potential mafia teammate of Tony due to a random vote. It was the fifth random vote Rondo had made, essentially fifth in a row -- so that accusation is not great. It can just be Scotty pulling something out of his ass when he sees it, or it could be Scotty feeling a specific urge to say words when the random vote falls upon Tony. The latter wouldn't be great for Tony.

That's speculative. The rest of these posts are bland and tell me little.

From TonyStarkPrime


Nothing new. There's one more post in the exchange about mechanics. Meh.

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Conclusion

At least on the basis of this interaction, I have no reason to clear Tony.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:19 pm I am sorry but you will not get top form Alison this game. I was on a month break from mafia for personal reasons and I only subbed into this game to help Syn out. JJJ killed a scum D1 so I will sheep him. Mac is probably scum for voting town JJJ. Nanook is probably scum for sheeping Mac onto a bad vote. motel room is probably scum because Scotty treated him really awkwardly. tutuu says there's some interactions with falcon and I think she's town so I'll trust her.

That's all I have for now.

I didn't sheep mac onto Jay, i was on lime for partly my own reasons

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca
motel room
NotAnAxehole
MacDougall

I took out the names I cleared. This is the POE that remains. If anyone has a reason to clear one of these names or to un-clear someone I cleared, speak up.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:15 pm Alison check falcon for me

I don't have a PR. If you intended to give one to me, it was waylayed.

That’s not what I meant smh

tony pls explain why u keep hard defending falcon or ur ass is grass if he flip read yeah fam

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:22 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:19 pm I am sorry but you will not get top form Alison this game. I was on a month break from mafia for personal reasons and I only subbed into this game to help Syn out. JJJ killed a scum D1 so I will sheep him. Mac is probably scum for voting town JJJ. Nanook is probably scum for sheeping Mac onto a bad vote. motel room is probably scum because Scotty treated him really awkwardly. tutuu says there's some interactions with falcon and I think she's town so I'll trust her.

That's all I have for now.

I didn't sheep mac onto Jay, i was on lime for partly my own reasons

Oh okay. You always sheep Mac so I thought that was what went on there.

I also easily could've saved OR bussed scotty at eod, so whichever you think my meta is i should be a relatively easy townread atp

Mac is confirmed mafia but also confirmed town so long as he remains an un-countered power role claim. The latter trumps the former.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:22 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:19 pm I am sorry but you will not get top form Alison this game. I was on a month break from mafia for personal reasons and I only subbed into this game to help Syn out. JJJ killed a scum D1 so I will sheep him. Mac is probably scum for voting town JJJ. Nanook is probably scum for sheeping Mac onto a bad vote. motel room is probably scum because Scotty treated him really awkwardly. tutuu says there's some interactions with falcon and I think she's town so I'll trust her.

That's all I have for now.

I didn't sheep mac onto Jay, i was on lime for partly my own reasons

Oh okay. You always sheep Mac so I thought that was what went on there.

Not always, just sometimes

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm tony pls explain why u keep hard defending falcon or ur ass is grass if he flip read yeah fam

ok fine smh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm Mac is confirmed mafia but also confirmed town so long as he remains an un-countered power role claim. The latter trumps the former.

he's neither lol i think he's obv vanilla town trying to bait

or maybe scum trying to look like VT trying to bait

but 0% town PR zero imma eat a sandal yeah

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm Mac is confirmed mafia but also confirmed town so long as he remains an un-countered power role claim. The latter trumps the former.

Did he claim power role giver?

If so then the game is much easier.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:24 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm Mac is confirmed mafia but also confirmed town so long as he remains an un-countered power role claim. The latter trumps the former.

he's neither lol i think he's obv vanilla town trying to bait

or maybe scum trying to look like VT trying to bait

but 0% town PR zero imma eat a sandal yeah

Mac should rescind if he's VT.

my read is that @NotAnAxehole is the town PR giver is that right

Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm I also easily could've saved OR bussed scotty at eod, so whichever you think my meta is i should be a relatively easy townread atp

Meh. W/T wagons means someone who's off both wagons is more suspicious. Lots of wolves don't want to make a hard choice between looking really bad by outing to save a teammate or sealing their fate by bussing so they sit on a vanity wagon and pray. Tell me why you wouldn't be one of those wolves.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

scotty dies if dyson is town and wolves were powerless

ppl who were powerless eod: me (post capped), falcon (post capped), monkey (afk), you (i think?) (afk), motel room (i think?) (afk)

Im ok killing Alison, Dyson, Misery today. Those aren't the only names in my PoE, but the only ones I would vote TODAY

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

If you're referring to LoMo not showing up at EOD to self pres, he is a chronic slanker and will happily afk as both alignments without regard for his survival.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

scotty dies if dyson is town and wolves were powerless

ppl who were powerless eod: me (post capped), falcon (post capped), monkey (afk), you (i think?) (afk), motel room (i think?) (afk)

Falcon was already voting on the counter wagon.

But yeah, good point there is guaranteed at least 1 mafia in

Falcon, you, Dyson, lomo.

Dyson's lack of self preservation is also weird, because he should have expected to die there as town.

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

scotty dies if dyson is town and wolves were powerless

ppl who were powerless eod: me (post capped), falcon (post capped), monkey (afk), you (i think?) (afk), motel room (i think?) (afk)

If Scotty/Dyson are both wolves they could have collapsed on another wagon to save Scotty. Scotty could have forced a rand between him and JJJ rather than a rand between him and Dyson which would be way, way better for scum in a Scotty/Dyson world. Or they could just have both voted falcon and guaranteed it.

someone should be a peeked town (received shot from last night)

we might wanna all claim? see who's the peek?

im surprised its not jay (since he didnt claim?). coz i expect wolves to make someone an IC and kill them right after. and the best n2 kill for wolves is jay i think. so if i was a wolf i'd have given jay a PR last night to try to get rid of it. this wolf PR giver is so anti-scum smh

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

If you're referring to LoMo not showing up at EOD to self pres, he is a chronic slanker and will happily afk as both alignments without regard for his survival.

Not relevant to my point.

I too have thoughts.

But I'll get to them later.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

If you're referring to LoMo not showing up at EOD to self pres, he is a chronic slanker and will happily afk as both alignments without regard for his survival.

Not relevant to my point.

What is your point then?

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

scotty dies if dyson is town and wolves were powerless

ppl who were powerless eod: me (post capped), falcon (post capped), monkey (afk), you (i think?) (afk), motel room (i think?) (afk)

If Scotty/Dyson are both wolves they could have collapsed on another wagon to save Scotty. Scotty could have forced a rand between him and JJJ rather than a rand between him and Dyson which would be way, way better for scum in a Scotty/Dyson world. Or they could just have both voted falcon and guaranteed it.

yea ig. i think they were both afk, if they're wolves we can't rly know if they were lurking or legit afk. dunno

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:33 pm someone should be a peeked town (received shot from last night)

we might wanna all claim? see who's the peek?

im surprised its not jay (since he didnt claim?). coz i expect wolves to make someone an IC and kill them right after. and the best n2 kill for wolves is jay i think. so if i was a wolf i'd have given jay a PR last night to try to get rid of it. this wolf PR giver is so anti-scum smh

My slot did not receive anything on any night.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:34 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

If you're referring to LoMo not showing up at EOD to self pres, he is a chronic slanker and will happily afk as both alignments without regard for his survival.

Not relevant to my point.

What is your point then?

You're mafia.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:34 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:33 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

If you're referring to LoMo not showing up at EOD to self pres, he is a chronic slanker and will happily afk as both alignments without regard for his survival.

Not relevant to my point.

What is your point then?

You're mafia.

So you don't have a point. I see.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:32 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:28 pm Prediction: Scotty doesn't die if Dyson is town.

I also have a narrow Poe I'm ok voting in. Lomo/Alison makes a lot of sense for a mafia slot if Dyson is town due to the lack of self preservation.

scotty dies if dyson is town and wolves were powerless

ppl who were powerless eod: me (post capped), falcon (post capped), monkey (afk), you (i think?) (afk), motel room (i think?) (afk)

Falcon was already voting on the counter wagon.

But yeah, good point there is guaranteed at least 1 mafia in

Falcon, you, Dyson, lomo.

Dyson's lack of self preservation is also weird, because he should have expected to die there as town.

mans was legit afk as either alignment i think. he isn't takin the game that seriously, he's chillin. at least i recall so, might wanna reread EoD to see who posted and who didn't

Iirc my PoE after flip was

Alison
Dyson
Misery
Nanook (only if also with Dyson)

I might be forgetting someone, but I think all of the mafia are in the above list. Maybe Alison / misery are the optimal kills today then, not Dyson.

@Dyson sphere @motel room do any of u by chance have the power to give someone a power at night? like do u have an extra power in your rolecard?

and have yall received anything during the night?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:37 pm @Dyson sphere @motel room do any of u by chance have the power to give someone a power at night? like do u have an extra power in your rolecard?

and have yall received anything during the night?

@Dyson sphere @motel room oh and DONT quote your role card, just in case yall didnt know hahah. u can paraphrase instead :P

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:37 pm Iirc my PoE after flip was

Alison
Dyson
Misery
Nanook (only if also with Dyson)

I might be forgetting someone, but I think all of the mafia are in the above list. Maybe Alison / misery are the optimal kills today then, not Dyson.

I think only one person on this list is likely to be mafia and it's the person with the caveat, so

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:29 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 3:23 pm I also easily could've saved OR bussed scotty at eod, so whichever you think my meta is i should be a relatively easy townread atp

Meh. W/T wagons means someone who's off both wagons is more suspicious. Lots of wolves don't want to make a hard choice between looking really bad by outing to save a teammate or sealing their fate by bussing so they sit on a vanity wagon and pray. Tell me why you wouldn't be one of those wolves.

Are you serious

I can't tell if you're serious

Interactions of Scotty and falcon45ca

From Scotty



The majority of these posts make me snore, but here're a couple of interest to me.

Green: This, at the least, suggests to me that Dyson and falcon are unlikely to both be bad. Indeed it might be a worse moment for Dyson than for falcon, as falcon is set up to look like a total doofus should Dyson be flipped [mafia] first.

Orange: This smells more TMI than defend-teammate to me. I won't make that an absolute statement since it could be either one without being any surprise. Scotty's EOD voting was varied from falcon to dunya to Dyson (it ended on Dyson). Shrug.

From falcon45ca


Also extremely boring interactive content.

Cyan: This is the only post that stands out. I don't know why falcon made special note of motel room town reading Scotty when he had hardly made a read on Scotty himself to that point.

Note for the log that falcon's final vote went to Dyson.

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Conclusion

Sure falcon can be Scotty's teammate. There are tiny reasons to doubt it, but nothing meaningful enough to move me.