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Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:15 pm
by tedxtr
Talking exclusively about mine lol

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:16 pm
by tedxtr
I solved the game guise

It says “who’s rogue-ish”

All we gotta do is vote “The Rogue” like duh, obviously

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:18 pm
by MacDougall
I wonder if there is a chance that magpie has been making our votes not count but we haven't noticed because the wagons have never been close enough for it to count?

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:19 pm
by Long Con
juliets wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:14 pm It is odd that he is giving up if he's 3P. He usually fights and finagles a lot as 3P so I'm willing to consider that he's not.
There's nothing to fight for. I messed up when I mistakenly said I was vanilla for five seconds. It's an airtight case.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:19 pm
by tedxtr
Mac I compiled a list with the clears and why with easy to follow reasoning

SPF is in there, you’re free to poke holes in the reasoning there

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:20 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
MacDougall wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:01 pm I'm surprised to see nobody has tinfoiled him.
He’s hard checked town dude

Like 100% mech confirmed

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:21 pm
by tedxtr
Long Con wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:19 pm
juliets wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:14 pm It is odd that he is giving up if he's 3P. He usually fights and finagles a lot as 3P so I'm willing to consider that he's not.
There's nothing to fight for. I messed up when I mistakenly said I was vanilla for five seconds. It's an airtight case.
I never said that is why you’re getting yeeted for but it would’ve been pretty funny if that ended up to be true

You’re just part of the PoE, been slank-ish, it’s a matter of priority in who goes first but the yeets are pretty set for the most part.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:21 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
MacDougall wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:08 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I have decided to bash you
I think we have a 90% chance of winning this game, so....ok 🤷‍♀️

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:23 pm
by MacDougall
You're not gonna fight either?

Ugh I'm outed by my own methodology

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:24 pm
by MacDougall
Moving back to LC. End this lame day.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:24 pm
by tedxtr
On phone, if you type something for like a minute or two and you don’t hit send, once you do, the site shuts down. Is that an issue just for me?

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Yeah man idc enough time fight lol

I don’t think my dying loses the game so it’s whatever, we have enough clears to win regardless I think

If I were 3p I’d probably be conceding kek

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:25 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
*enough to fight

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:27 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
tedxtr wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:24 pm On phone, if you type something for like a minute or two and you don’t hit send, once you do, the site shuts down. Is that an issue just for me?
Yeh that happens to me too. Back button then post again works for me 🤷‍♀️

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:27 pm
by tedxtr
Hoping the game finally ends with LC’s demise

:wiz:

glgl to us

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:27 pm
by MacDougall
Sure if the 3p wincon can't be achieved before f3 and they have no KP the game is mech solved but counterpoint it probably isn't.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:29 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean yeah, it’s probably not 100% mech solved

So order matters probably but idc enough to figure out what the correct order is. Probably something like LC>Jules>you, but idk

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:31 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If they have a last man standing wincon and/or can’t win until f3, then it’s locked

If not then order might matter. Idk kinda just want to kill LC and figure it out from there if the game isn’t over

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:38 pm
by Poison
Idk who to vote tbh

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:41 pm
by juliets
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:38 pm Idk who to vote tbh
It's hard. Just do the best you can. We may all be wrong.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:47 pm
by Poison
juliets wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:41 pm
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:38 pm Idk who to vote tbh
It's hard. Just do the best you can. We may all be wrong.
Idk why but my gut says it Is mac but I was wrong with my gut reads this game so ugh idk.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:48 pm
by Long Con
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:38 pm Idk who to vote tbh
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Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:52 pm
by Poison
Long Con wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:48 pm
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:38 pm Idk who to vote tbh
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It is a moo point.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:53 pm
by Poison
Just reading back some stuffs

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:02 pm
by Poison
I'll be back before EoD actually. it says 7:54am when the poles expire. So I can sleep for an hour. I'll be back in an hour

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:48 pm
by Poison
Nvm I'm just voting LC idk

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:17 pm
by Long Con
[mention]staypositivefriend[/mention] Don't you want to vote for me toooo? :grin:

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:24 pm
by Sloonei
Day 8



'I do not understand what it is I've done wrong.'

Long Con has been eliminated. He was...
Spoiler: show
Bodysnatchers.
Album: In Rainbows

‘Has the light gone out for you? Because the light’s gone out for me.’
On 3 separate Nights, you may select a player. Neither of you will be able to vote for each other the following Day.

You are a Civilian. You win when all threats are eliminated.

It is Night 8. Players have 23 hours to submit night actions.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:20 pm
by juliets
I'm sorry I didn't believe you [mention]Long Con[/mention]. If you weren't such a great player I wouldn't have this problem of not knowing when to believe you. Have fun in spec chat.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:22 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Welp

I guess I’ll actually have to try tomorrow, RIP

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:22 am
by MacDougall
I did believe you Long Con but you wanted to die so bad

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:23 am
by MacDougall
cool

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:57 am
by Poison
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:22 am I did believe you Long Con but you wanted to die so bad
i think more than believing in him, you started tunneling him.?

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:20 am
by MacDougall
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:57 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:22 am I did believe you Long Con but you wanted to die so bad
i think more than believing in him, you started tunneling him.?
As town I tried to read the game. I analysed everyone. On the weight of all the things I inititally analysed I found him mafia.

After which I reread him specifically and found his pushing on potential 3p roles and characteristics anti-aligned from the 3p.

I may get yeeted for what you are suggesting and perhaps I can't really argue it in the sense that I was one of the few people that tried to build a 3p world to yeet, but considering I am town and still worried about 3p beating us I think trying to find one is good for my alignment honestly.

Given the way that my fellow players seem to be treating this solve 3p world as "whatever let's just blast through random not fully confirmed as not 3p" people there is a lot to be said about just pushing against who the fuck ever I think may possibly be 3p other than me (as someone in the POE) because f I get yeeted is massively increases the odds of the 3p living to endgame. I do not fucking want to be flipped here.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:23 am
by MacDougall
tl;dr I analysed, I tried. I reevaluated. I did all the requisite things a town does. Many did not. If townies are refusing to attempt to win and that is a reason to townread them in this enviro over someone who did I disagree.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:28 am
by MacDougall
Like, I am attempting to go back, reevaluate slots, push people etc. If you take me out of the game I feel like you guys are just going to fully rand every day subsequent to that, and you really have no reason to push me to death over others with equal 3p equity. So my agenda here is as much to prove I care about finding the 3p as it is proving that I'm not the 3p. I think every town should do the same because for each town that just decides to blindfold yeet whoever the fuck it multplies the likelihood of us losing the game to the 3p.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:46 am
by juliets
I will be around after breakfast. [mention]tedxtr[/mention] I need to better understand oddmerta's clear. I just want to be sure we haven't cleared someone that shouldn't be and Oddmerta's clear is the one I understand the least.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:00 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
tedxtr wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:49 am Mechanically cleared people

SPF -
Spoiler: show
We have deduced she is the song Magpie from the album King Of The Limbs. Herm was tracked to Master Radishes' house the night he checked for the album King Of The Limbs. Herm only checks songs. That implies that Master Radishes was the civilian notified of Herm's check, thus, there are not any non-civillians on the album King Of The Limbs.
Herm wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:01 am
Herm wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:18 pm My album is also The King of Limbs, so I assume me and Rasishes are the only ones with that album, which probably explains why I was seen visiting.

So once I'm miseliminated, just continue the game with that info in mind.
Oh lol, sorry about that typo Radish.
Herm wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:05 pm The King of Limbs (0 Scum, Radishes)
Note : Read herm's flip, by "0 scum" he means that he didn't get a rolepeek of any card while checking the album, which means there are no NON-CIVILLIANS on that album. Herm was using "scum" here to refer to both 3p and mafia.


tedxtr -
Spoiler: show
I claimed a song from the album Kid A. Herm told us that there aren't any non-civillians on Kid A, and my claim was proven to be true by Poison.
Herm wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.
tedxtr wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:10 am Hard claim album Kid A, song Optimist or whatever it is, Optimistic
Poison Chan wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:27 am Ted didn't lie about his song.


Oddmerta -
Spoiler: show
Herm checked Amnesiac and Kid A. Nobody from the album Amnesiac or Kid A claimed to have received a notification from Herm, but Oddmerta heavily hinted to receiving one. As a 3p, he'd have to have a role peek on Herm and also gambit on whether the person from Kid A or Amnesiac were dead or alive. Thus, Occam's razor suggests that he's just the town from one of those albums that also happened to receive the notification.
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:20 am
Herm wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:38 pm To start off, my role sounds a bit similar to Poison's role, but I assume it's not entirely the same.

I'm some kind of Song Cop.

I scan albums each night, looking for roles.

N1 I scanned the Amnesiac Album, but I didn't get any results. I'm supposed to get results if there's any scum roles on this album. If town is on this album they should be notified of my search. Not sure how this works tbh.

N2 I scanned Kid A. No results this time either. So I assume there's no scum on this album.

My role also has this Day 1 thing tailored to it, that if I don't have any votes at EOD of D1, then I'm bp for N1.

I was successful, but I think I was too scummy to be targeted N1 lol.
Ok so Herm is town, I know it. We need to get rid of Dyachei for faking tracker results
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:27 am Best to start thinking of a world where Herm is town amd dyachei is scum
Oddmerta wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:31 am
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:30 am
Herm wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:28 am Yes, but it is randomized. So only one townie on an album gets notified of the search.
Lol.

I commend you trying, but like no. =p
I think he is telling the truth


Dizzy -
Spoiler: show
Poison chose to inspect the song High and Dry from the album "The Bends". Poison claimed that this specific song is civilian aligned and Dizzy's claims fits the description of that song to a T. Here's how :
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:06 am I used The role card and got High and Dry. Civ. Conditional tracker and can make a post upon their death. I'll elaborate on it later.
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:02 pm You can yeet me if you want. I can post (but maybe only once don't remember) after I'm dead too. Not that I would be helpful lol. =p
Also, we know Dizzy is a conditional tracker, but the detail there being the "make one post after you die" seals the deal.
===========================

Clarifications :

I have previously mentioned that SPF should be outed 3p if Poison doesn't have the songs to pick from tonight. That is actually incorrect.

If our assumption of SPF being Magpie is correct, then she's always lock cleared. Truth is, if 3p had a visiting role, they probably DID actually visit Poison, but it's not SPF.

Again, whether Poison has the songs tomorrow or not doesn't matter for SPF's alignment as long as our assumption of her song is correct. 3P could be another person and SPF got caught in the crossfire, but as long as she's Magpie, it doesn't matter because of the point I've made about her.
[mention]juliets[/mention]

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:05 am
by juliets
Thanks Nanook. It's not airtight but it's a good argument. Just for fun I will probably read through him today. I don't really want to open the POE, but I'm having some doubts it's you or Mac and I know it's not me.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:10 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Naw it's a pretty much locked POE rn, me/you/mac and PC if the game isn't over by then

Just the way the game is rn. Tbh I feel like we're headed towards a nanook/mac 1v1 but I'm not entirely sure that's the correct solve.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:12 am
by MacDougall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:10 am Naw it's a pretty much locked POE rn, me/you/mac and PC if the game isn't over by then

Just the way the game is rn. Tbh I feel like we're headed towards a nanook/mac 1v1 but I'm not entirely sure that's the correct solve.
Hope not because I will fuck you up

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:13 am
by MacDougall
I'll tell you that I am very strongly getting the impression that most of the town has stopped actually trying to evaluate based on posts people are making and are now really quite blindfolded. There are a few players you can blindfold town but the posts currently being made are VERY important and I have seen very few reads on them. For instance LC seemed VERY not 3p off his posts subsequent to the mafia being killed but nobody cared.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:15 am
by MacDougall
It is very important that every town left alive continues to in fact, play like a town. For the very same reason it's important at any point in the game. In fact it might be even more important to do so now. Evaluate the play, read people who seem town as town, read people who seem not town as not town. Push on people and analyse their behaviour. Yes we have 214 pages of info but it's not all we will have.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:20 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Mac you also pushed LC and didn’t push anywhere else that I recall so

Big meh

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:29 am
by juliets
Yeah Joe I agree that it is important that we evaluate and re-evaluate. Also that everyone who can continues playing. I understand why Dizzy and SPF are not playing much but Oddmerta we really need you to put your two cents in more if you possibly can (Nanook convinced me we should leave the POE as is). Your thoughts are important.

Also [mention]tedxtr[/mention] I was reading back and saw where Odd wants you on Mac tonight. Just wanted to make sure you saw that whether you think it's a good idea or not.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:30 am
by juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:20 am Mac you also pushed LC and didn’t push anywhere else that I recall so

Big meh
Actually Joe pushed at me and I think at some others too.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 am
by Poison
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:20 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:57 am
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 2:22 am I did believe you Long Con but you wanted to die so bad
i think more than believing in him, you started tunneling him.?
As town I tried to read the game. I analysed everyone. On the weight of all the things I inititally analysed I found him mafia.

After which I reread him specifically and found his pushing on potential 3p roles and characteristics anti-aligned from the 3p.

I may get yeeted for what you are suggesting and perhaps I can't really argue it in the sense that I was one of the few people that tried to build a 3p world to yeet, but considering I am town and still worried about 3p beating us I think trying to find one is good for my alignment honestly.

Given the way that my fellow players seem to be treating this solve 3p world as "whatever let's just blast through random not fully confirmed as not 3p" people there is a lot to be said about just pushing against who the fuck ever I think may possibly be 3p other than me (as someone in the POE) because f I get yeeted is massively increases the odds of the 3p living to endgame. I do not fucking want to be flipped here.
Sure. Tbh, I agree with you here that with each passing day, players are getting lazier and re-evaluation is something that is not happening as per needed.

I'm not 3P reading you based on your progression on LC, it's more or less like an over all thing. I'll like to explain that in sometime.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:22 am
by Poison
MacDougall wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:28 am Like, I am attempting to go back, reevaluate slots, push people etc. If you take me out of the game I feel like you guys are just going to fully rand every day subsequent to that, and you really have no reason to push me to death over others with equal 3p equity. So my agenda here is as much to prove I care about finding the 3p as it is proving that I'm not the 3p. I think every town should do the same because for each town that just decides to blindfold yeet whoever the fuck it multplies the likelihood of us losing the game to the 3p.
Look mac, I might just be getting myself a tunneling vision but why does it feel like you are trying to prove that you care for 3P hunt, like you are pressing on it very much. Your tone is a bit frustrated at this point as well. A town does not need to prove that they did 3P hunt or not, cause people will know. And I fully agree that you were very much invested in scum hunt and later 3P hunt. But wouldn't the 3P do the fake 3P hunt as well? Like they would be Much more hyped maybe cause they are just a little away from winning?

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:25 am
by Poison
Actually yeah odd clear is not that promising one.

Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 8]

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:57 pm
by tedxtr
juliets wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:29 am Also @tedxtr I was reading back and saw where Odd wants you on Mac tonight. Just wanted to make sure you saw that whether you think it's a good idea or not.
My ability should be on whoever we want to yeet tomorrow