The Syndicate

Omg, hi Mac! @Timsup2nothin

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:36 pm Also,

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am @Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.

this post, also from D4, becomes really interesting to me if Radishes is, indeed, scum.

Interesting that you're not voting me.

can u explain this post radishy?

didnt u say earlier that u think its dumb that we trust syn misunderstanding his action

i thought hyena was lock town for u, am i misremembering?

so the idea is that ur saying u think hyena might be scummy for TMIing u town

i think its an attempt for u to look towny but idk if it makes sense for u to think to tinfoil hynea

1) cuz hes lock town for u (correct me if im misudnerstanding)
2) cuz u just said we shoudlnt believe syn, so why is it weird for a lock town read of yours (hyena) to not immediately vote u?

and i am near 70% sure kyle is a 3P role that has to find someone (some role or something), but if he’s a wolf then that’s good too

cliffs : there’s probably a very low likelihood of his claim being real (mostly the posting restriction part of it)

and even if it is real, then hosts would never allow him to tell the thread “hi guise so i have a role that can do cool stuff but all i’ll have to do is shut up” because the whole point of posting restriction roles is that you have to maneuver your way around suspicion by making safe votes, and expose yourself to suspicion because you’re not posting.

there’s usually a risk you have to pay in order to gain these “abilities” when it comes to posting restriction roles. that’s pretty much the design idea behind it.

so why would he be able to claim that when he basically has no risks to encounter and gains op abilities too? like what’s the point of it?

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...


IMPORTANT MECH STUFF


Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.

During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.

I wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny words

Maybe Hyena can let you ask her!

What's this about a red radish? I can look back and maybe I will...but...

I'll see if @MartinGG99 has checked in, cause he has an answer to something I'm interested in.

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...


IMPORTANT MECH STUFF


Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.

During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.

I wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny words

was thinking the same lmao

idk why jack got so mad when he got yeeted

poor nuttie

very funny though

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:36 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:31 pm Thought about reading everything since I went to bed, and I probably will...but...


IMPORTANT MECH STUFF


Hyena handing out seance ability is confirmed, I am in a chat with Mac.

During their mason chat Nutella informed him that her role was to swap with a dead. Jack's back, that's that. It is possible that the swap removed Nutella and thwarted a NK targeting her.

I wonder how mad she is that she sacrificed herself for a cop who thought his role was just funny words

Maybe Hyena can let you ask her!

What's this about a red radish? I can look back and maybe I will...but...

I am probably dying tonight no matter which way Radishes flips so Hyena should not waste their seance on me lol

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:13 pmHard disagree. No idea why town is ignoring that I've very very very obviously implied mech info of Radish being a wolf.

So I will make it crystal clear. I have mech info that indicates Radish is a wolf. I will not reveal what that info is until D5. I am the one who cased Marmot and I am the one who picked Marmot for the flash wagon. I've been very townie. I gain nothing in this scenario if I'm wolfing because I get turbo-chopped tomorrow if Radish is a civilian. He is a wolf.

Ok, this is very cool. And if Radish is woof, I will have a sad for letting him go from my initial find. But also mostly just happy times.

tim, do you have any info from nutella regarding why falcon died?

was looking at that part of the thread a while back and thought a good explanation that everyone missed was that nutella could’ve been a spider from mars role, and thus falcon died according to his role flip. if she was then falcon was likely not soup killed? that could help us with claims and reduce some paranoia

[VOTE: Radish
] aubergine

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:13 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:40 am Nutella/Radish/Martin/JPIC/Probably Syn/Probably Tim/Probably Michelle (if nobody got issues with her, she's probably town, right?)

^These are town/very likely town. Anyone disagree?

I really don't know what's going on with Nutella/Jack switching roles? Did I miss something here? I thought I read that, but haven't retained it.

Hard disagree. No idea why town is ignoring that I've very very very obviously implied mech info of Radish being a wolf.

So I will make it crystal clear. I have mech info that indicates Radish is a wolf. I will not reveal what that info is until D5. I am the one who cased Marmot and I am the one who picked Marmot for the flash wagon. I've been very townie. I gain nothing in this scenario if I'm wolfing because I get turbo-chopped tomorrow if Radish is a civilian. He is a wolf.

yeah, pretty much

which is why i made the radishes gotta die post

alison gave protection ability to falcon n3

i guess its possible someone tried to kill alison

but i think its most likely he just died from his own role

poor @Alison i shed a tear for u T_T

actually, if falcon was soup killed, then he probably would’ve died at SoD, and not in the middle of it

so nutella was probably a spider from mars role

love solving puzzles, ez stuff is ez

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:44 pm actually, if falcon was soup killed, then he probably would’ve died at SoD, and not in the middle of it

so nutella was probably a spider from mars role

love solving puzzles, ez stuff is ez

nook too someone said falcon/nook hinted at it also also also i found this before u teddieeeeeeeee im smartttttttttttterrrrrrrr nerdieeeeeeeeeeee

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:44 pm actually, if falcon was soup killed, then he probably would’ve died at SoD, and not in the middle of it

so nutella was probably a spider from mars role

love solving puzzles, ez stuff is ez

nook too someone said falcon/nook hinted at it also also also i found this before u teddieeeeeeeee im smartttttttttttterrrrrrrr nerdieeeeeeeeeeee

at least i can blame uni life for this one, cuz i didn’t have time, but i’m pretty sure i was the first to think about it in my head

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Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

Did you see the mech stuff from kyle?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:49 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

Did you see the mech stuff from kyle?

locked 3p

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:44 pm actually, if falcon was soup killed, then he probably would’ve died at SoD, and not in the middle of it

so nutella was probably a spider from mars role

love solving puzzles, ez stuff is ez

nook too someone said falcon/nook hinted at it also also also i found this before u teddieeeeeeeee im smartttttttttttterrrrrrrr nerdieeeeeeeeeeee

at least i can blame uni life for this one, cuz i didn’t have time, but i’m pretty sure i was the first to think about it in my head

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JERRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

If MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmao

at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

Good news. I think i can vote Radishes too in this case

[VOTE: Mr. Radishes] aubergine

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

If MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.

And if MR flips green, shoot me. It'll be a colossal fuck-up on my part and my town cred will be cratered. You've seen wolves take advantage of this before re: me, so it's just best to get rid of me ASAP and go back to true POE hunting.

so master radishes wolf and then who'd be last?

does wilgy work? if it is then watch me get no credit for it

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:54 pm so master radishes wolf and then who'd be last?

does wilgy work? if it is then watch me get no credit for it

i still like my theory of 112 + hollowkatt

Unvoting so there is no accidental hammer before Radishes can return

i don't think hammer is a thing here, but don't listen to me, i've read nothing if it was announced

VC

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 pm and i may be a suckah but radishes’ response to the outing thing is townie

maybe i’m just gonna vote for kyle

do it punk

<3

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:56 pm i don't think hammer is a thing here, but don't listen to me, i've read nothing if it was announced

Ah ok, I'm used to playing with hammer rules but just in case lol...

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:57 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 pm and i may be a suckah but radishes’ response to the outing thing is townie

maybe i’m just gonna vote for kyle

do it punk

no need, going for wolves

@Hyena Me voting someone is not me going "This person is more scummy than this person" like some formula. It's a place I feel ok going at the moment. All my reasons for suspecting people have been pretty weak or at least felt weak to me due to lack on info (my fault). Ironically, the reads I had that were stronger reasoned was Radish scum D1 (that I left, don't remember when, but preferred Cat after Mac pointed them out) and Radish seemed way better especially since yeeting Marmot. My Cat vote was well reasoned in my mind, funnily enough a strong part of it was me misreading something in their ISO (thought they had said "There's nothing wrong with Alison!" which was a super awkward response that tipped the vote for me, when in fact, that was not what Cat said I noticed when I read for spew lol). My Nanook suspicion was pure gut.

My 112 suspicion has been her handling of me and also equity with Nanook. I'm wary that I could omgus here, cause I do that quite frequently.

My Sloonei suspicion is more interest than anything. But voting Martin and voting generally off wagon for Sloonei specifically does not sit that well with me.

My Wilgy suspicion is not strong. I don't know if I should've voted there tbh.

I also have not paid attention to when days end either. I haven't been all that concerned with who I'm voting as long as it's somewhere I feel reasonably ok with, and maybe I should've or would've changed if I was present at different moments.

Overall, I've had pretty good instincts actually, especially if Radish is scum. Good instinct, and not the best followthrough, is basically the trade mark of my town play lol. You're creating narratives based on theories. There's absolutely no reason why I would be more likely to do the things you bring up as scum more than as town (actually quite the opposite, but I won't press that anymore).

I've been quite happy with how the game is going, followed (what I see as) town players who seems to better know what's going on, been comfortable with general PoE, quarrelled a bit with people who suspects me. I've done the mech things I can to work for town too. So yeah, I've said enough in my defence now, I think. Your choice if you want to listen or not.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmao

at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me

Clearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.

There's no hammer. But there's also still over a day left, so, y'know, counterwagoning and pressure.

ah i thought EoD was in 4 hours

[VOTE: Wilgy ] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:15 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:39 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:31 amMeaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:26 am I'm no big city lawyer. I'm not good at fancy words and arguments, but if you trusted me RE: Falcon and/or Long Con consider also trusting me with regards to Tutuu. :zen:

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:06 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:05 pm wait so is kyle claiming a parity cop peek of "same" between me and long con and falcon

so u guys should probably unvote me

@Kylemii are u?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:10 pm well that's not exactly correct but it is pretty much correct

@Jackofhearts2005 @Timsup2nothin @hollowkatt

@Timsup2nothin i even pinged u siwwy timmie

siwwy willie willy niwwy timmie cutie

cutie cutie cute cute timothy

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmao

at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me

Clearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.

kyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity check

but DID say he DOES have mech info that clears falcon (duh), someone else (erm, TSP?), and now tutuu

it's a little shaky and I'm not sure i believe it, but if there are 3 or more wolves left, and if MR is a wolf, I think exploring other wolf candidates is just smart while we figure out the tutuu sitch

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

If MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.

Wtf. I'm clearly not teamed with Radish. That was like my only firm suspicion at start of D1, and I love him to death and would never put that attention on him if we were scum together. I hate being in PoE so fucking annoying.

kyle's original claim was "falcon and long con are same alignment unless i was roleblocked or one of them is 3p"

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmao

at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me

Clearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.

kyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity check

but DID say he DOES have mech info that clears falcon (duh), someone else (erm, TSP?), and now tutuu

it's a little shaky and I'm not sure i believe it, but if there are 3 or more wolves left, and if MR is a wolf, I think exploring other wolf candidates is just smart while we figure out the tutuu sitch

this is coming from someone who said "radishes and tutuu are w/w" and "if radishes flips w, so will tutuu" so you know I'm being smort!!!

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmao

at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me

Clearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.

kyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity check

Didn't he give a non-answer to tutuu though? It was a no but yes answer

syn, your points are why i think kyle is just a 3p and probably never a wolf, can't ever see how he'd play like that as a wolf

and i made a huge post about it that didn't gain any reactions

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

If MR flips red, I think it might be better to shoot Dyslexicon instead. Tutuu can in theory be cleared by the rest of town overnight, while Dyslexicon is solidly implicated by wolf!Radish and doesn't have hypothetical mech info backing them.

Wtf. I'm clearly not teamed with Radish. That was like my only firm suspicion at start of D1, and I love him to death and would never put that attention on him if we were scum together. I hate being in PoE so fucking annoying.

This doesn't actually mean anything. Radishes included Marmot in his "hey let's do a flash wagon" list, and this gave him TOWN CRED!!!!!! so it's not really outside the realm of possibility that a wolf would scum-read a fellow wolf.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:02 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:01 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:52 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:46 pm Okay!!! Just looked at Syn's ISO. I trust hin critical thinking and if his mech info red's the Radish I favor chopping Radish. I do think Radish is strongly indicative of w!Tutuu as well, so I'll vig her (still love you Tutuu <patpat>

pls dont vig me when a player has claimed mech info that im town lmao

at least wait until kyle flips, if he doesnt flip town then go ahead and kill me

Clearly I need to ISO Kyle and go find this mech info, unless someone can clue me in.

kyle strongly implied parity checking, but then denied being able to parity check

Didn't he give a non-answer to tutuu though? It was a no but yes answer

he said tutuu is town and shouldnt be yeeted i suggest we all listen to kyle he's a smart man

Another thing: Sloonei is not mafia with 112. The way Sloonei insists on this one reason to clear 112 doesn't at all look like something he would do as mafia teammates. It looks either like Sloonei is mafia and knows 112 is town, or Sloonei is just town, believes his point and 112 could be anything.

I'll look back on Sloonei's reaction to my initial suspicion on Radish, cause iirc he supported it, but passively and didn't pursue it as far as I remember.

I've not read many of Sloonei's posts and I ask for opinions there.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:02 pm kyle's original claim was "falcon and long con are same alignment unless i was roleblocked or one of them is 3p"

cool bean

okay it was LC not TSP

all these acronym people

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:02 pm syn, your points are why i think kyle is just a 3p and probably never a wolf, can't ever see how he'd play like that as a wolf

and i made a huge post about it that didn't gain any reactions

I don't know 3P meta here

does kyle being 3P matter to us or nah? Alison's claim can scum-side, if I remember correctly, so is that a generally good assumption to make as well about a hypothetical 3P!Kyle?

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:03 pmThis doesn't actually mean anything. Radishes included Marmot in his "hey let's do a flash wagon" list, and this gave him TOWN CRED!!!!!! so it's not really outside the realm of possibility that a wolf would scum-read a fellow wolf.

It's not that I did, it's how I did. My reason was legit as fuck and I'm mad I left it or was charmed or whatever happened. I kind of get it, that I'm in PoE, but also I think it's dumb at the same time. Whatever. Just a struggle. If I was mafia, mafia would be doing good, not poorly lol. Lock clear =p

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:04 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:02 pm kyle's original claim was "falcon and long con are same alignment unless i was roleblocked or one of them is 3p"

cool bean

okay it was LC not TSP

all these acronym people

@Kylemii Wouldn't you know if you were roleblocked, if you have an investigative role?