The Syndicate

One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[mention]lorab[/mention] got BR lynched on Christmas once. She still brings it up.

I don't know, LC sounds genuine to me as I'm seeing him post right now. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pm more to the point, what's the deal with novasalinever? *seinfeld voice*

Nah, nova looks good. I don't like that there's three votes on him right now. I've still seen nothing compelling, those that know him say he starts quiet. Why does he have three votes?

that's what I'm asking, nova barely has any thread presense in the parts I've read but had more votes than anyone else and I hadn't gotten to any point where anyone was like "oh shit dudes let's look at nova"

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

You think he should be voting Dom? I thought he wanted to walk away from Dom.

Epi, don't be dense. What about private discord conversations?

you all are posting faster than i can read so im just gonna live in the present i guess

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

@lorab got BR lynched on Christmas once. She still brings it up.

Legendary.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

You think he should be voting Dom? I thought he wanted to walk away from Dom.

I think he should have something more than an about face from town to a vote with very little explanation when he's been this involved in substantive discussions.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

That is a legitimate beef.

Fuck it, I'm moving to sig.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm I don't know, LC sounds genuine to me as I'm seeing him post right now. Maybe I'm wrong though.

You're not wrong. I know you want to hear solid leads and smart deductions from me, but I don't have that right now. I am in casual mode for now.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:55 pm What the hell are you all smoking? Epi seems fine to me. There's content there despite the weird way he's generating it. He's constantly pointing out things.

What content?

This is a different view to what you recently said in response to me.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Serious response to casual friendly statement.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:55 pm Scotty's metaphors are out of control. I suspect him also.

Does he have a book of them?

He wrote the book of them.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:02 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

You think he should be voting Dom? I thought he wanted to walk away from Dom.

I think he should have something more than an about face from town to a vote with very little explanation when he's been this involved in substantive discussions.

Agreed. I don't care anymore. I'm throwing caution to the wind with respect to mislynching sig in the past. He needs to answer for that conduct.

Why did Lucy Van Pelt with a football just enter my mind?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:55 pm What the hell are you all smoking? Epi seems fine to me. There's content there despite the weird way he's generating it. He's constantly pointing out things.

What content?

This is a different view to what you recently said in response to me.

I hadn't finished his ISO; sorry, that wasn't clear. I liked when he was switching from person to person at first and trying to communicate some findings. I don't like the latter half of his ISO where he parked on dunya, proceeded to stop actually hunting at all, and fucked off.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Serious response to casual friendly statement.

That's me in a nutshell when I'm playing mafia; you should know that.

Okay so tbh I'm here for the Epignosis show, does anyone know when it starts?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:05 pm Why did Lucy Van Pelt with a football just enter my mind?

Why indeed?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

He gave reasons. Mostly a meta-read on me, that I usually coast as scum on another forum, and him not liking the other (Dunya and Epi iirc) wagons.

However, he admitted to his vote being a forced one. He earlier also had an opposite meta-read on me, that I'm adhering to my Town meta by being quiet.

I have a hard time believing Epi would play like this if he was scum, that's what I can't get past.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

He gave reasons. Mostly a meta-read on me, that I usually coast as scum on another forum, and him not liking the other (Dunya and Epi iirc) wagons.

However, he admitted to his vote being a forced one. He earlier also had an opposite meta-read on me, that I'm adhering to my Town meta by being quiet.

What do you mean by a forced one?

Golden, join me on sig. Let's counterwagon this shit up.

I just isoed Luna. I can see how you might see that as a first-time baddie in a team with dunya. It's within the realms of possibility, but by no means beyond doubt. But as I'm voting for neither of them today, I'll revisit it later.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:58 pm Switching my vote to Spacedaisy because pretty much her only on topic posts so far are interactions with dunya which include a mild defense, followed by a step back, then a step forward.

Dude, there is a difference between defending someone as civ and confirming their story. I was asked directly by dunya to confirm what she was saying. She asked directly about a conversation between she and I that I did not recall. But since I know I'm not bad, she s unlikely to be lying about that particular point. I have no idea what her affiliaton is, but I have actually confirmed in my messages with dunya on discord and we have had a conversation about various players' play styles and yes Dom was one of them. So lynch her if you want. I have no idea if she is good or bad, but if that is all that you have against her, I can say first hand it is weak. Or lynch me instead, I don't care. Better me than a try hard civ.

Now, I'm going to go enjoy my birthday! See ya

linki @ lunalee: Don't care if it looks scummy. We are talking about a player voting for me that votes himself Day 1 every single game. So why is he voting me now? For weak sauce reasons.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:47 pm So yeah, I've convinced myself to change my vote to Golden.

why?

I don't know what universe this is, but seeing Dom and I voting for the same person and actually not suspecting each other in any way whatsoever might actually make me cry. This is a first. I know it won't last, but dammit this is great. My oldest rival and I. Towning together. Is it too good to be true?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:54 pm What do people think of Turnip Head and Mac?

TH- ????
Mac- civ???

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:57 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:52 pm

Spoiler: show

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:44 pm The thing about sig is, I'm not voting for him. The thing about Epi is, I can't read him for shit, but I'm not going to throw a vote at him for a possible mislynch, or more likely, a wasted vote when he decides he doesn't feel like being lynched and makes you all vote somewhere else.

Hey LC, do you have any notable reads other than dunya? And what specifically in her post history is what led you to not believe her; like, if you were trying to convince me that she's bad news, what would should I consider then?

Nothing that big. I was getting suspicious of Golden there, and I can't decide if I should let it go.

Then again, now Luna is voting for him, and her judgment in voting me was off.

Spoiler: show

But a person's entitled to make mistakes.

I'm not that suspicious of most others, lots of my reading has been hasty catchup over thoughtful analysis.

I don't understand the nova thing, it seems like randomness.

Your logical fallacy here is cracking me up.

And what does the logical fallacy mean?

I see the fallacy-- what does it indicate to you?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

because he doesn't give a rat's ass who goes.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

You think he should be voting Dom? I thought he wanted to walk away from Dom.

Why though?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:10 pm I don't know what universe this is, but seeing Dom and I voting for the same person and actually not suspecting each other in any way whatsoever might actually make me cry. This is a first. I know it won't last, but dammit this is great. My oldest rival and I. Towning together. Is it too good to be true?

Keep talking like that and it will be.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:09 pm I just isoed Luna. I can see how you might see that as a first-time baddie in a team with dunya. It's within the realms of possibility, but by no means beyond doubt. But as I'm voting for neither of them today, I'll revisit it later.

Yeah, certainly got me thinking about whether Luna is carelessly defending a scummate, but either way I was having trouble discerning where her head was at exactly. I'm willing to let it go for the duration, but I'm keeping an eye on the whole thing.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:11 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:10 pm I don't know what universe this is, but seeing Dom and I voting for the same person and actually not suspecting each other in any way whatsoever might actually make me cry. This is a first. I know it won't last, but dammit this is great. My oldest rival and I. Towning together. Is it too good to be true?

Keep talking like that and it will be.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:11 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:10 pm I don't know what universe this is, but seeing Dom and I voting for the same person and actually not suspecting each other in any way whatsoever might actually make me cry. This is a first. I know it won't last, but dammit this is great. My oldest rival and I. Towning together. Is it too good to be true?

Keep talking like that and it will be.

best response ever

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:09 am Dunya, sucks that you ended up feeling that way. It’s a struggle we always have here, posting ratios, and all of us high posters have gone through similar emotions I think.

Epi, who else is bad other than dunya?

wolbre04

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:09 am I don’t buy that dunya is good for the dom thing but I don’t buy that it makes her bad either. You’ve essentially said there is zero need for you to make any other read. But what if dunya was immune today, what would you do then?

Vote elsewhere.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Just a friendly warning. I did this in the image mafia game, and it made people suspect me later.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:14 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Just a friendly warning. I did this in the image mafia game, and it made people suspect me later.

Epi, you have 4 votes. Shit or get off the pot. Help us out here.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:08 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:00 pm One thing that bothers me about sig is all that conflict with dom and he's voting Nova and I don't really understand why.

He gave reasons. Mostly a meta-read on me, that I usually coast as scum on another forum, and him not liking the other (Dunya and Epi iirc) wagons.

However, he admitted to his vote being a forced one. He earlier also had an opposite meta-read on me, that I'm adhering to my Town meta by being quiet.

What do you mean by a forced one?

A weak vote without much substance and that he doesn't even like (according to him) that help him not get involved into other wagons that are the center of discussions and will get scrutinized.

I could quote you two of his post where he gives to meta-read on me based on my activity (being quiet). The initial one was as Town when he was engaged with Dom and voting Dom. The new one is as scum in order to justify his bogus vote.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:14 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Just a friendly warning. I did this in the image mafia game, and it made people suspect me later.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:19 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:51 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:59 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:47 amI am rather intrigued by your style of defense. It's unique. Hard to describe. I must dwell.

Try not to think of it as defence. I'm not saying any of it to save myself but to give you perspective on my posts.

I'm fine being lynched today, but it won't get the town anywhere. However, I could still win the game and notch a victory on the meta-belt.

Or you could leave me around and I could help solve the game.

OMG, the final nail in the Golden is town coffin.

Dude, we're both town. Let's do this.

I agreed with your Golden posts until this one.

Cmon, dude. That's the thing literally everyone says under pressure.

Oh look, a post for me to respond to that I haven't yet. My bad. (Guess I should catch up properly at some point, yeah?)

Fair point, but how much pressure was Golden under when he said it? Hardly anything noteworthy. In my experience, Golden is much more hypersensitive to pressure when town.

I know that's meta, but that's that.

I felt under literally zero pressure and said it not in any way as a defence and not in the way people normally use it. What I meant was quite literally that being lynched today would have been beneficial to me ie a notch on my meta-belt.

I play the long game with statements like this. A mislynch is not a bad way to die in mafia.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:54 pm What do people think of Turnip Head and Mac?

They’d make a cute couple.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Serious response to casual friendly statement.

That's me in a nutshell when I'm playing mafia; you should know that.

As long as YOU know it.

Thanks, NVN, appreciate the clarification. Would you vote for sig today?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:16 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:54 pm What do people think of Turnip Head and Mac?

They’d make a cute couple.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:09 pm I just isoed Luna. I can see how you might see that as a first-time baddie in a team with dunya. It's within the realms of possibility, but by no means beyond doubt. But as I'm voting for neither of them today, I'll revisit it later.

Has Lunalee only played civ?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:16 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:06 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:04 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:03 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:59 pm Marmot voted for me? In a poll that ends on my birthday. I'll happily return the favor for him since he so kindly gave me his vopte instead of his customary Day 1 self vote. Wouldn't want him to feel too off missing that vote on Day 1 that is normally behind his name...

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Careful, retaliation voting makes you look scummy.

Why would you care how Daisy looks?

Serious response to casual friendly statement.

That's me in a nutshell when I'm playing mafia; you should know that.

As long as YOU know it.

I'm just doing my thing.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:17 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 5:09 pm I just isoed Luna. I can see how you might see that as a first-time baddie in a team with dunya. It's within the realms of possibility, but by no means beyond doubt. But as I'm voting for neither of them today, I'll revisit it later.

Has Lunalee only played civ?

I think so? I didn't play Image but seems she was town that game according to JOH. Other than that, she was town in every Burglary I think as well.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:22 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:27 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:17 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:10 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:32 pm


Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.

I'll elaborate on this.

She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?

suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?

nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.

Dom has been mentioned 142 times in Discord, and none of those were comparisons to you.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

I find this super convincing.

But that's not what she even said? She said that Dom was compared to other players to her. I have had conversations with her in Discord about Dom myself. If Dunya gets lynched, let it be for something not fucking stupid.

I was being sarcastic. I think it’s a dumb accusation and that’s part of why I’m voting Epi.

I wonder how many times you will win by lynching the dumb instead of the bad.