Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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well no that's why i was saying to illario that imo you're a villager and that's just ur personalityRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:25 amYou really think a 3p would play like a 3p? It was just a meme.
I just get accused of being 3p because of how I play.
Mighty ducks is an example, It just happened to be right for the wrong reasons
im not sure why you think this would be a productive thing to postMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:29 am hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you
Aro is almost always mafia if you and tilg aren't.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:29 am there is really no point in getting passive aggressive with me because i rejected you saying that i am always mafia if aro is town tbh, this is basic common sense and you are the one making it dramatic when it doesn't need to be
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:29 am hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you
inspire you to kill a wolfstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:30 amim not sure why you think this would be a productive thing to postMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:29 am hey @staypositivefriend you get a wolf over today or I'm going to vig you
Correction if lily and tilg aren't.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:32 amAro is almost always mafia if you and tilg aren't.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:29 am there is really no point in getting passive aggressive with me because i rejected you saying that i am always mafia if aro is town tbh, this is basic common sense and you are the one making it dramatic when it doesn't need to be
You think aro is probably wolfy for the vote anyway.
I said it was far more likely to be aro than you.
Rather than letting the read stand on its exceedingly logical merits and heap more pressure onto someone you have as in your null list you literally decided to say "I reject this read" which is just exceedingly tilting to me.
If you cannot see why your decision to make a dramatic rebuke of a d1 mac read of this persuasion would be disappointing then you are a wolf frankly.
Sad uwu
i'm being antagonistic? i am referencing the fact that the way you all are interacting and playing individually makes me think you're v/vMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:34 amHow is this anything like that? You are just being antagonistic saying this. This dynamic is entirely different.
i dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking aroundRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:28 amYou say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.
My questions werent just fucking around I saw something I wanted an answer forilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:37 ami dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking aroundRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:28 amYou say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.
ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me
what are you norse?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:37 am How's the vibe been slash is jt worth being here for the next 20 minutes
aight ill give u answers after u post a reads list with explanationsRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:39 amMy questions werent just fucking around I saw something I wanted an answer forilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:37 ami dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking aroundRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:28 amYou say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.
ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me
Irish soRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:40 amwhat are you norse?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:37 am How's the vibe been slash is jt worth being here for the next 20 minutes
Well I guess we will both be waiting for each otherilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:41 amaight ill give u answers after u post a reads list with explanationsRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:39 amMy questions werent just fucking around I saw something I wanted an answer forilario wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:37 ami dont really care about giving you serious answers when you're just fking aroundRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:28 amYou say this yet you havent answered the questions I have been asking you on my read through.
ill make myself more readable to you if you make yourself more readable to me
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:02 am my concern about lily is that her posts so far have awkward energy and the TR on aro felt unnatural
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 8:19 pmi thought it was awkward that she was maintaining a presence in the thread across multiple hours but didn't seem to know what to say, and i took the abrupt townread on aro to be her attempt to integrate herself into the game by posting a random townread on another playersantygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:50 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:36 am naook illario and alison are all town
lilypetal and aro contains one mafia
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Okay, spf has the same townreads as me LOL. Probs town.
@staypositivefriend walk me through your read on Lily. I was leaning town on them tbhtbh. Other than that I feel like Im totally vibing with your no explanation reads *dab*
i mean like, i think she could still easily be town. i'm not sold on her being mafia based on those 5 posts lol, i just felt that she had the worst entrance out of pretty much everyone who was posting last night
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:51 pm lily what made you townread aro last night in the first place?
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:09 ami think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yetMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:09 amdo you think lily is town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:07 ami reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is whyMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:03 am so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.
so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.
@RondoDimBucklestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:13 amarogame's reasoning was basically just: "i agree with SPF", and tilg's reasoning was more or less exactly the sameMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:10 amdo you think arogame's reason for voting lily was reasonable?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:09 ami think her posting right now is fine but havent seen enough to decide if she's town yetMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:09 amdo you think lily is town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:07 ami reject this difference check and if one of aro/tilg is mafia then i dont really think this reason is whyMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:03 am so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.
so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.
i dont think that both of them are mafia (most likely), so choosing to vote for lily based on my push on her is not inherently unreasonable, if that makes sense. i think the reason why the chances of there being a wolf in aro/tilg increase if lily is town is because i think lily was an easy target for a wolf trying to get integrated into the game to park their vote on, but i dont think the reasoning itself is much of a problem
I think he cared more about making a big deal of reaction testing you than actually reaction testing you. That's what I meant by performative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:24 pmi do also want to note that my only real concern about alison's posts so far is how she wolfread aro for his reaction testing being "performative" as though performative isnt the laziest buzzword of all time that doesnt really tell me anything about your actual thoughts behind aro's posts. felt shallow in a way that alison's reads typically are not, but i got the sense there was more behind her scumread on aro that she wasn't really explainingstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:23 pmwell to be clear, at the time i made that post, i did think that aro was town because the way he reacted to my push on him was out of character and overly aggressive in a way i thought was town indicativeRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:20 pmYou are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:40 am[/code]Code: Select all
[code]i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 amwhat made you change your mind on Ilario?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:33 am i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore
Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.
1. townread me weirdly quickly
2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")
3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation
4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me
there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily
ur townread on mac is fine and i agree
ur townread on illario i just discussed
ur townread on nook is fine and i agree
dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something
dont have a read on ender yet
think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town
but then once he revealed it was a reaction test then i felt less good about the townread because i realized it wasn't him authentically just getting angry about him pushing on me but him putting on a performance to make it "look" like he was angry, which i guess i read as less towny by default
so tbh i actually am rather torn on aro's alignment at the moment - i think his content has broadly been "fine" but dont really perceive him to have done anything particularly town indicative, and i think he's the type of player ill figure out more easily as the game goes on
Could you give some examples re wisp?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:33 pm a hot take that i have is that i actually lightly scumread Belzy. i think that he sounds okay on a tonal level but the actual content of his posts is generally disjointed and the way that he handled his suspicion of the wisp slot in particular didnt really feel like it came from the perspective of someone who cared about wisp's alignment
Aww you like me?ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:10 pm i wish there was someone i didnt like in the lobby just so i could guilt free tunnel a slot d1
ill most likely keep my vote on spf or ender today...perhaps aro but nott really because id feel bad if he flips town after the big effort he went with to work with me
This seems performative.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:24 pmi do also want to note that my only real concern about alison's posts so far is how she wolfread aro for his reaction testing being "performative" as though performative isnt the laziest buzzword of all time that doesnt really tell me anything about your actual thoughts behind aro's posts. felt shallow in a way that alison's reads typically are not, but i got the sense there was more behind her scumread on aro that she wasn't really explainingstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:23 pmwell to be clear, at the time i made that post, i did think that aro was town because the way he reacted to my push on him was out of character and overly aggressive in a way i thought was town indicativeRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:20 pmYou are pushing Aro here but you are voting Lily now. Do you think they are partnered or if not who could be? Or have you moved to Aro town?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:40 am[/code]Code: Select all
[code]i thought he had a strong start but then he had kind of a weird sequence of posts where he:arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 amwhat made you change your mind on Ilario?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:33 am i change my mind about ilario being town tbh. mac takes his spot in my current towncore
Also, I'd like ur thoughts on my recent "list of townies" with varying confidences.
1. townread me weirdly quickly
2. posted a read on ender i thought was kind of meh because it wasnt really informative (ie: "i think ender is fine so far apart from these things that Werent Fine")
3. a townread on belzdy w/out explanation
4. him dropping his wolfread on you kind of weirdly quickly after u all started engaging with me
there's nothing super wrong with any of these posts, just dont see much evidence of scumhunting in them and think ilario could be just playing to pocket ppl and that i cleared him too easily
ur townread on mac is fine and i agree
ur townread on illario i just discussed
ur townread on nook is fine and i agree
dont really have a read on wisp yet but he hasn't actively pinged me so i suppose that's something
dont have a read on ender yet
think that rondo sounds nearly identical to the king of the hill mafia game we just played so without looking into his meta further i think he's town
but then once he revealed it was a reaction test then i felt less good about the townread because i realized it wasn't him authentically just getting angry about him pushing on me but him putting on a performance to make it "look" like he was angry, which i guess i read as less towny by default
so tbh i actually am rather torn on aro's alignment at the moment - i think his content has broadly been "fine" but dont really perceive him to have done anything particularly town indicative, and i think he's the type of player ill figure out more easily as the game goes on
is itMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:34 amHow is this anything like that? You are just being antagonistic saying this. This dynamic is entirely different.
[VOTE: Aro] auberginearogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:34 pm [unvote]Lily[/unvote]
[VOTE: Neon] aubergine
Will I explain this naked vote rn? No, because I’m at a hockey game. I’ll give thoughts later but spf is pretty townie here and so is rondo
Lily is a bit better, but will keep my eye there still.
The answer is simple.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:44 pm i have no idea how to read neon but i trust that lily and santy are both probably not wrong about her tbh so im not voting her today
Neon does uwu cute girl things as both alignments so I've should read outside that yes.Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:50 pmcuz i think she's obv town but obv town in the sense that maybe she pocketed me with a few things like the negative reaction to tilg's vote on me and asking me to play ow so i might be compromisedMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:46 pmwhy?Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:46 pmEh I wouldn't say 100% sheep my read but I think I'm okay at reading her in a micro sense. I wouldn't touch her today at leaststaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:44 pm i have no idea how to read neon but i trust that lily and santy are both probably not wrong about her tbh so im not voting her today
There was a reason which I've now forgotten so I will say vibes. It's probably best to read ender the opposite of me since I've been wrong on ender in every game we've played. Ever.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:51 pmWhy Ender?Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:15 amPorschailario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:08 amah okay, who are your trs?Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:59 amI kinda talked about my dumb reasons. Tbf I'm not really buying into them anymore.
It's out of my comfort zone to try to scum hunt anyways lol I prefer town hunting.
Spf/Aro thing just always felt weird to me and it's something I could potentially see them doing as theatre early. I haven't particularly found either to be exceptionally towny but it is early.
Mac
Ender
That's kinda it so far.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:03 am so lily is town. her explanations and play atm is just very inno.
so tilg/spf/aro always contains mafia.
uwuYour really gonna hate me than lolMillium wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:09 amgood to know I guess, but I dont do well with chaos goblinsMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:07 amWhen Rondo plays this way he usually self resolves because if town he ends up spewed clear by wolves who have nfi what to do with him. Or he just keeps being a chaos goblin and is mafia.Millium wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:04 am/shrugMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:00 amYes Rondo has that affect on people as either alignment.
I'm concerned you might be a wolf that thought he was obvious though. Your play around kinda makes more sense that way to me.
I think its the correct push for any person that's normal
and Alison would probably stand by me on that thought
I dont know what I should be looking for otherwise to distinguish his alignment then
It was at least partially because I was terrified of you after King of the Hill so you should be happy lolRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:24 amI am still low key mad I got night killed while posting only gifsNeon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:41 pmI've watched Rondo single handedly solve a game that town was going to loseMillium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:34 pmLmao, this is exactly what I meanNeon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:31 pmTrue your sussing Rondo. Another person who does weird things as town lol.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:27 pmya except I'm not sussing her, and fineNeon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:25 pmIt's not bad play to chill in thread vibe and fuck around in a game. People take this game way to seriously. Porscha can win games but like I am just telling you your sus on her right now is predicated on a read that is bad from my pov.Millium wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:22 pm
I mean people town read bad play, it's not all that uncommon. You backed it up with they are vibing, hoe hard is it to note vibe as a wolf, unlike you I don't have the meta, but I also don't think they are a wolf, so I really don't care honestly
I want rondo dead
I'm giving you meta which you don't have. Porscha can be wolf but this isn't why and is more likely town indicative in my world view.
You defend bad play
So. No.
I've also watched Rondo post only in Hot Fuzz gifs.
Is someone who can single handedly solve a game that town is going to lose a bad player because they do weird things?
[VOTE: ilario ] aubergine
Hmmm....staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:28 ami have said multiple times t hat i think aro has a mildly higher chance of being mafia in a world where lily is town, but that i reject the implication that a world where aro is town is a world where i'm always mafia. it is extremely simple and i don't know why youre making a thing of itMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:25 amif tilgarial is town and lily is town there is almost always 1 between youstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:21 ami agree that being reluctant to accept that i am a "straight up difference check" with a player who i barely have a read on roughly halfway through d1 is a bad way to play mafia and not just common senseMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:18 amvery disappointing decision making if you are townstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:08 ami rejected the existence of the dichotomy (or trichotomy) but not the read itselfMacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:05 ammy reasoning is no different if not even less contextual so I don't know why you felt the need to dramatically reject itstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:13 am
arogame's reasoning was basically just: "i agree with SPF", and tilg's reasoning was more or less exactly the same
i dont think that both of them are mafia (most likely), so choosing to vote for lily based on my push on her is not inherently unreasonable, if that makes sense. i think the reason why the chances of there being a wolf in aro/tilg increase if lily is town is because i think lily was an easy target for a wolf trying to get integrated into the game to park their vote on, but i dont think the reasoning itself is much of a problem
instead of accepting this to made yet another dramatic grandstand against the way I make reads
I like this one though so the other one doesn't matter anymore.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:37 am tbh i can admit that my initial reaction of: "i reject this difference check" was a bit of an overstatement because i was annoyed that it felt like u were setting me up to push on me in a world where aro flips town
but i agreed with you that aro has a higher chance of being mafia if lily is town and i even agreed that your reasoning was fine so im not sure what you want from me, it just seems like you are being needlessly antagonistic for no reason
i will proly not continue to discussion past here
Why is this post “actually bad”?Neon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:24 am[VOTE: Aro] auberginearogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:34 pm [unvote]Lily[/unvote]
[VOTE: Neon] aubergine
Will I explain this naked vote rn? No, because I’m at a hockey game. I’ll give thoughts later but spf is pretty townie here and so is rondo
Lily is a bit better, but will keep my eye there still.
Oh Mai gawd u sucksssss
But also this post is actually just bad.
