The Syndicate

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:30 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:52 am Rondo +: high levels of enthusiasm on entry. unafraid to make waves including directly approaching mac before mac arrived in the game.

another instance of a weird read, what waves was rondo making? he voted the top wagon with 0 explanation

kinda feel like this could come from a wolf saying a wolf wouldn't do v!gira like this, cuz otherwise i can't see the waves he was making by voting the top wagon

I would've considered Rondo immediately voting Gira and then asking why Gira was even a wagon as "making waves", if only for how out of sync it was with the discussion

i guess, but the problem i have is that, just as in TSP's case, the callout is extremely early and it seems to lack skepticism

might be a playstyle issue cuz in both cases there is an explanation, but the seeming lack of skepticism is still in the back of my mind

he was "making waves", but why did he make the waves? sorta like that. though i still don't view a naked vote on the top wagon that later on is moved as making waves, but I can ~see what they mean

dunno

I also think us seeing Robyn as suspicious is perhaps indicative that they are town. Or perhaps that Robyn is and they are not.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:04 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:02 pm I think I'm pretty good at what I do and don't think I exaggerate things but... maybe I'm wrong ig

When it comes to players who you think have range, you are bias to hyper fixating on them and frequently one post read them for level 1 stuff. You do it to me all the time.

I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with it, and you may even be right. But I don't think Dyslexicon's posts are there yet, and believe me I'm trying to find them town here.

Hmm

Maybe ig

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:09 pm I also think us seeing Robyn as suspicious is perhaps indicative that they are town. Or perhaps that Robyn is and they are not.

that’s what they said about me in ‘nam

O.o

finished ep 7

the moment he tore up that picture I knew that was gonna be a reveal (but not who, ofc)

I think I'm surprised how happy I am with the pacing. easy flow state show

oh goodness me y'all forced dizzy to wallpost

heartless demons, all of you

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:19 pm oh goodness me y'all forced dizzy to wallpost

heartless demons, all of you

be more twinky, pyxxy

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:43 pm I think Pyxxy is kind of towny for entitlement reasons. It's something of a one post read but I actually think Pyxxy is fairly polarised. Their comfort level and care factor is a high/low when town and inversed when mafia.

And last game he went totally afk so I had no clue what to do with his slot but he died for inactivity as a wolf

it took me longer than it should have to realize you were talking about rondo's game

again very sorry rondo that I got the deadline wrong

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:06 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:53 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:36 pm I've caught up and retained almost nothing I read this is bad


But I'm starting to think Dyslexicon might actually be town lol

I don't buy that Dyslexicon is incapable of making that long post as mafia. It was perhaps slightly towny, so I buy you placing too much emphasis on it though.

Can you elaborate on what you found "slightly towny"?

Effort level. The Gira read was okay. Their treatment of you lacked agenda.

If you find that post "slightly towny", why are you still voting for Dyslexicon?

[VOTE: dubz ] aubergine

come back rondo

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:20 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:19 pm oh goodness me y'all forced dizzy to wallpost

heartless demons, all of you

be more twinky, pyxxy

you didnt even acknowledge my rot69 joke get out of here

[VOTE: ted] aubergine btw

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:42 pm mmmm this game suddenly feels unsafe

The implication is clear

Mac Towned gira and it’s day one so I’ll be looking to move

Or maybe I wont

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:28 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:20 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:19 pm oh goodness me y'all forced dizzy to wallpost

heartless demons, all of you

be more twinky, pyxxy

you didnt even acknowledge my rot69 joke get out of here

it wasn’t funny u little twink

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:28 pm [VOTE: ted] aubergine btw

Why?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:30 pm Mac Towned gira and it’s day one so I’ll be looking to move

What's your read on Mac?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:48 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:44 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:41 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:39 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:34 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:06 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:41 pm

Fucking liar

Idk I'm pretty sure I've been getting 0 wolves lately
Last time I got almost all the wolves by D2, I ate the kill, but that was like two years ago.

I dunno your one of the people I'm often most concerned about playing against when I'm wolf and I think I'm pretty good at like analyzing that kinda thing

Didn't I hard townread you the last time you were wolfing and I was town? It was in that travesty of an FoL game where town didn't really put effort into anything, you wolfed with Luka, and Arctic and I correctly towncored each other and got mislunched consecutively by people who thought we were partnered and defending each other.

I'm pretty sure I've pocketed you under multiple accounts as wolf but I only do that cause you have thread control and scare me lol

I have zero thread control on this forum lol
I only have thread control on FoL because I was their champs rep last year and the newbies remember that and cower in fear
Everyone else knows that I'm pretty 50/50 with my accuracy, I can townclear myself most of the time when I want to, but my reads are poop even if my reasoning is somewhat logical

I don't think that's always true. I wolfed against you on this forum under the name Zenon and I defs pocketed you because people were following you

Ok actually that's true lol, I forgot about that game
Everyone else was pushing you but you were pocketing me so I defended you lol

@WindwardAway would me calling you beautiful be pocketing?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:36 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:48 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:44 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:41 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:39 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:34 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:06 pm

Idk I'm pretty sure I've been getting 0 wolves lately
Last time I got almost all the wolves by D2, I ate the kill, but that was like two years ago.

I dunno your one of the people I'm often most concerned about playing against when I'm wolf and I think I'm pretty good at like analyzing that kinda thing

Didn't I hard townread you the last time you were wolfing and I was town? It was in that travesty of an FoL game where town didn't really put effort into anything, you wolfed with Luka, and Arctic and I correctly towncored each other and got mislunched consecutively by people who thought we were partnered and defending each other.

I'm pretty sure I've pocketed you under multiple accounts as wolf but I only do that cause you have thread control and scare me lol

I have zero thread control on this forum lol
I only have thread control on FoL because I was their champs rep last year and the newbies remember that and cower in fear
Everyone else knows that I'm pretty 50/50 with my accuracy, I can townclear myself most of the time when I want to, but my reads are poop even if my reasoning is somewhat logical

I don't think that's always true. I wolfed against you on this forum under the name Zenon and I defs pocketed you because people were following you

Ok actually that's true lol, I forgot about that game
Everyone else was pushing you but you were pocketing me so I defended you lol

Your the only reason I won that game

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:30 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:52 am Rondo +: high levels of enthusiasm on entry. unafraid to make waves including directly approaching mac before mac arrived in the game.

another instance of a weird read, what waves was rondo making? he voted the top wagon with 0 explanation

kinda feel like this could come from a wolf saying a wolf wouldn't do v!gira like this, cuz otherwise i can't see the waves he was making by voting the top wagon

I would've considered Rondo immediately voting Gira and then asking why Gira was even a wagon as "making waves", if only for how out of sync it was with the discussion

Ye this. It was very wave-makey to instantly throw votes around in an environment where few people are choosing to vote yet and some of the ones who do (hi) are getting pressured and scrutinized for it.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:43 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:30 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:52 am Rondo +: high levels of enthusiasm on entry. unafraid to make waves including directly approaching mac before mac arrived in the game.

another instance of a weird read, what waves was rondo making? he voted the top wagon with 0 explanation

kinda feel like this could come from a wolf saying a wolf wouldn't do v!gira like this, cuz otherwise i can't see the waves he was making by voting the top wagon

I would've considered Rondo immediately voting Gira and then asking why Gira was even a wagon as "making waves", if only for how out of sync it was with the discussion

Ye this. It was very wave-makey to instantly throw votes around in an environment where few people are choosing to vote yet and some of the ones who do (hi) are getting pressured and scrutinized for it.

and you expected him to know that subbing in?

why are you not concerned on whether the votes are actually legit or not?

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:38 pm @WindwardAway would me calling you beautiful be pocketing?

Not really
I usually only assume townreads to be pocket attempts, but maybe that's just me lol

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:52 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:38 pm @WindwardAway would me calling you beautiful be pocketing?

Not really
I usually only assume townreads to be pocket attempts, but maybe that's just me lol

well

you’re beautiful

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:44 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:43 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:30 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:52 am Rondo +: high levels of enthusiasm on entry. unafraid to make waves including directly approaching mac before mac arrived in the game.

another instance of a weird read, what waves was rondo making? he voted the top wagon with 0 explanation

kinda feel like this could come from a wolf saying a wolf wouldn't do v!gira like this, cuz otherwise i can't see the waves he was making by voting the top wagon

I would've considered Rondo immediately voting Gira and then asking why Gira was even a wagon as "making waves", if only for how out of sync it was with the discussion

Ye this. It was very wave-makey to instantly throw votes around in an environment where few people are choosing to vote yet and some of the ones who do (hi) are getting pressured and scrutinized for it.

and you expected him to know that subbing in?

why are you not concerned on whether the votes are actually legit or not?

Does a vote have to be legit in order to be controversial? I thought the whole idea of something being controversial was that the interpretation is debatable, exactly as it's currently being discussed. You are now discussing how Rondo's vote might not be legit, and how it shouldn't merit a townread, which clearly means his vote did generate speculation and questioning, regardless of whether you agree with Ran and me.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:55 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:52 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:38 pm @WindwardAway would me calling you beautiful be pocketing?

Not really
I usually only assume townreads to be pocket attempts, but maybe that's just me lol

well

you’re beautiful

Why thank you

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:40 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:36 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:48 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:44 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:41 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:39 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:34 pm

I dunno your one of the people I'm often most concerned about playing against when I'm wolf and I think I'm pretty good at like analyzing that kinda thing

Didn't I hard townread you the last time you were wolfing and I was town? It was in that travesty of an FoL game where town didn't really put effort into anything, you wolfed with Luka, and Arctic and I correctly towncored each other and got mislunched consecutively by people who thought we were partnered and defending each other.

I'm pretty sure I've pocketed you under multiple accounts as wolf but I only do that cause you have thread control and scare me lol

I have zero thread control on this forum lol
I only have thread control on FoL because I was their champs rep last year and the newbies remember that and cower in fear
Everyone else knows that I'm pretty 50/50 with my accuracy, I can townclear myself most of the time when I want to, but my reads are poop even if my reasoning is somewhat logical

I don't think that's always true. I wolfed against you on this forum under the name Zenon and I defs pocketed you because people were following you

Ok actually that's true lol, I forgot about that game
Everyone else was pushing you but you were pocketing me so I defended you lol

Your the only reason I won that game

I am a lot of reasons why wolves win games
And usually not when I'm a wolf, but sometimes

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:44 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:43 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:30 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:49 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:52 am Rondo +: high levels of enthusiasm on entry. unafraid to make waves including directly approaching mac before mac arrived in the game.

another instance of a weird read, what waves was rondo making? he voted the top wagon with 0 explanation

kinda feel like this could come from a wolf saying a wolf wouldn't do v!gira like this, cuz otherwise i can't see the waves he was making by voting the top wagon

I would've considered Rondo immediately voting Gira and then asking why Gira was even a wagon as "making waves", if only for how out of sync it was with the discussion

Ye this. It was very wave-makey to instantly throw votes around in an environment where few people are choosing to vote yet and some of the ones who do (hi) are getting pressured and scrutinized for it.

and you expected him to know that subbing in?

why are you not concerned on whether the votes are actually legit or not?

ok caught up

If he is a wolf, yes, I would think he'd be more cautious and less attention grabby. I am not too concerned because they are not serious votes that are going to kill people, they are votes that are really only going to draw attention to himself. And also, he just subbed in so I am/was mostly reserving judgment, and I wanted him to not immediately feel under pressure because the only other thing I had to say on the slot was "your predecessor was meh to me."

It is kind of wild to me that you view Rondo's entrance as "not making waves" and totally normal, while me giving him (them? not sure on pronouns) a charitable early analysis is "whoa, are they wolf partners?"

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:56 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:55 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:52 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:38 pm @WindwardAway would me calling you beautiful be pocketing?

Not really
I usually only assume townreads to be pocket attempts, but maybe that's just me lol

well

you’re beautiful

Why thank you

@WindwardAway post a full readslist u girltwink

@Dyslexicon I have read your posts... I don't have much to say in response that isn't obvious or already said. If you are town, we can really use your head in the game, please keep on keepin on, read as much as you are able and give us your thoughts, and don't feel like "oh no ran is dead set on killing me" because that is not the case, unless you are a wolf in which case it is the case. But regardless very happy to finally get a game with you <3

@MacDougall Can you explain like I'm 5 how you think Robyn has not been towny?

for me in order to consider someone is making waves, they have to be serious or post some heat

placing a naked vote that means nothing and can easily be defended as “i was just fooling around” is never making waves

which is why im sooo confused how you’d ever characterize it as that when his vote was obv not real as he’d swapped it 3 posts later or so

he legit said “why are we voting you” xD

Yes, exactly? And everyone noticed that and people in thread at the time reacted to it. It's not about the vote itself, it's about the attention grabbing behavior.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:07 pm @WindwardAway post a full readslist u girltwink

I'm too lazy to make one rn and every time I do it off the top of my head I forget someone

Probably said most of my takes recently anyway

Oh, and I think mac is town so far so I really need to do some poe restructuring

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:15 pm for me in order to consider someone is making waves, they have to be serious or post some heat

placing a naked vote that means nothing and can easily be defended as “i was just fooling around” is never making waves

which is why im sooo confused how you’d ever characterize it as that when his vote was obv not real as he’d swapped it 3 posts later or so

At least for me, I don't exclusively use the term "making waves" to imply the result was intentional
I don't think it was intentional at all on Rondo's part and that's exactly why I think it's more likely a town behavior. Wolves could check with wolfchat when they sub in to see who's a prime mislunch candidate and get a quick synopsis of the game rather than popping in, sheeping a (probably) random wagon, and then having the audacity to ask why that wagon is a wagon instead of pretending to probe around first.

I hate to do this but I'm gonna quote leetic here and point out that Rondo's entry felt unplanned in a towny sort of way

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:32 pm I hate to do this but I'm gonna quote leetic here and point out that Rondo's entry felt unplanned in a towny sort of way

Uh
I meant that leetic said unplanned entries to the thread are towny
Which I disagreed with earlier, but this is an example of where I would agree with that assessment
I'm not saying leetic said that rondo specifically was towny

I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:34 pm I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

seems me calling you beautiful has pocketed u

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:35 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:34 pm I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

seems me calling you beautiful has pocketed u

No, but I think you're townier than Bereft because I literally cannot read him rn

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:36 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:35 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:34 pm I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

seems me calling you beautiful has pocketed u

No, but I think you're townier than Bereft because I literally cannot read him rn

should i give you a massage?

I'm ashamed to say I still don't have any particularly strong scumreads, and by admitting this, I lose the chance to push someone for pressure, but it's not like I felt like doing it more today since I already pressured the hell out of leetic on d0.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:37 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:36 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:35 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:34 pm I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

seems me calling you beautiful has pocketed u

No, but I think you're townier than Bereft because I literally cannot read him rn

should i give you a massage?

Only if it's magically gonna help me read Bereft

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:38 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:37 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:36 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:35 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:34 pm I feel like I'm talking out of my ass and should probably go to sleep.

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Good night lol.

seems me calling you beautiful has pocketed u

No, but I think you're townier than Bereft because I literally cannot read him rn

should i give you a massage?

Only if it's magically gonna help me read Bereft

no but it’ll make your back and shoulders better, maybe lower back too

@Gira A. y u scumread robyn? Like... not to overreact but I still feel very confident in them from probing into them earlier. They are a poor little meow meow and not doing anything I can identify as scummy. But mac and you are both going at them hard and neither of you are really saying why that I can see, so... someone is big wrong here.

B. What is your philosophy on the act of voting (in mafia)?