The Syndicate

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:27 am We really burnt ourselves out early in this one lol

Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:24 am BK is more towny than he's been in any other game I've seen him in

Also this is basically an OGI read but in the game he was mafia he was doing fucking NOTHING while he was participating in this game

In fact I'm pretty sure his participation in this game is a decent amount of what caused his lackluster contributions in the other game

Which considering the game means he's probably always town

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:40 am occam’s razor is out. tinfoiling wildly outlandish theories that make absolutely no sense is in

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:43 am There is reasonable reason to believe everyone left is town lol

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 am I'm drunk so SPF is obviously pocketing me

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 am I'm drunk so SPF is obviously pocketing me

its ok im high and high people are legally not allowed to lie

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:51 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:46 am I'm drunk so SPF is obviously pocketing me

its ok im high and high people are legally not allowed to lie

I will join you

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:42 am i am unsure why oddmerta has slipped under the radar as much as he has

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:53 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:42 am i am unsure why oddmerta has slipped under the radar as much as he has

michelle green checked him so like, unless he’s a godfather or something (which is possible since marmot was) he’s a villager

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:55 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:53 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:42 am i am unsure why oddmerta has slipped under the radar as much as he has

michelle green checked him so like, unless he’s a godfather or something (which is possible since marmot was) he’s a villager

gonna be honest: i completely, 100% forgot about that

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:01 am in an ideal world al_sama and/or ted were on jpic’s team

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:06 am Idk why you guys are so pessimistic tbh, this game is still pretty winnable

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:36 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:23 pm Let's talk about the dynamic between Strawhenge and Michelle.

I read it as two players whose playstyles grate against each other, but ultimately they're both villager. Does anyone else have thoughts about this? Those two have been quietly going at it hammer and tongs in the background while we talk about other stuff.

Yeah, it feels like a clash of playstyles.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:47 pm Although, I remember it striking me at the time that al didn’t vote for marmot to self-pres

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:08 pm Trustfall

AL_sama – Seems confused and I feel his teammates would have pushed him to post and actively tried to hunt more. Seems unaligned with marmot with how the wagonomics went D1.

Alison – Strongly hinted their role right out of the gates and I don’t feel like a mafia would have been that brazen straight away, regardless of who it is. Very believable claim and has actively tried to hunt.

BoKnows – Pie charts.

Dom – I feel like a mafia wouldn’t completely abandon their teammates like this or at the very least have asked for a sub.

Esooa – Questioning anybody who town reads them. Feel mafia would have taken the W.

falcon45ca – Not teamed with Marmot. We mind melded on the really questionable post by Marmot where he was checking the ISO of LC and saying he wouldn't vote there.

fingersplints – Feels genuine in tone. I believe their rage towards falcon.

KZA – AtE felt pretty towny day 1. Felt solvey with me on the marmot and tutuu slot on day 1 with meta reads. I want to say unaligned with marmot.

Long Con – Liked his clapback on oddmerta in day 1 with the time reads.

Michelle – Very much in her town game and play has reminded me of how she acted in GoC and seems stubborn/paranoid. The lack of elaborating her town reads on Al & ted feels towny because a wolf would have at least tried to have come up with a reason, even if it is banal.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME – I don’t really have a reason to town read nanook

Oddmerta – One of the trooper claims and is backed by Alison. His claim right after marmots flip makes me feel that they are unaligned with marmot.

staypositivefriend –Just the right amount of thread presence and has been pretty solvey.

Strawhenge – Seems relaxed and feels like he just doing his own thing

tedxtr – meta read him as town D1.

TonyStarkPrime – Has been solvey somewhat this phase and has stepped up a bit since day 1.

hally - reasons

When I did this I realised I couldn't think of a reason to townread nanook

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:28 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:05 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:01 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:00 pm [VOTE: Al] aubergine

This is the best of the current wagons.

Do you genuinely believe Al is the scummiest active wagon or is this self pres?

Also this wording implies there is someone who you'd rather see exed over Al but who isn't an active wagon. Who is it?

It is both.

I've seen reasons for both Ted and TSP to be town. Al on the other hand posted an awkward readlist yesterday and not much since then.


If this game happens to be multi-ball, Nanook and spf should be given another look. They were both suspicions I had earlier on before they claimed mason.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:12 pm I didn't realize they were joking about it earlier, I thought it was an attempt from Nanook to shield spf, because at the time, she was taking a lot of heat.

I was going to go through Nook's ISO at some point (due to not coming up with a reason for a town read from the top of my head), and when I was looking through, I saw the jokey posts about Nanook & SPF being masons together, which reminded me of the above posts from Marmot. It feels like Marmot genuinely believed that SPF & Nook were masons together, so I think this could point to Nook/SPF not being a wolf with Marmot.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:16 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:10 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:16 pm [VOTE: Al-Sama] aubergine

let's have a look at this

then michelle, spf and i go for al

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:54 pm feel cute might bury tony idk

then this

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:56 pmthis is fine.

^after falcon made the tie breaking move

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:59 pm damn rip tony

someone shoot al

the flip didn't even happen by this point

w a t

It'd probably mean something more if KZA wasn't town reading tony. Although, I thought those posts were fine

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:10 am So it's agreed. Falcon is tomorrow's chop.

Why falcon over Al?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 am

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:18 am so bo is a villager. that’s good

Why is he a villager?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:50 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:49 am any idea how many wolves could be in the two teams? someone mentioned 3-3

i have no clue how multiball ratio works

3-3 sounds like a fair ratio

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:08 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:04 am Kansas City Mafia would be Joe Bulo, Mike Milligan, The Kitchen Brothers (1 role) and Simone Gerhardt

Gerhardt Family Crime Syndicate would be Floyd Gerhardt, Dodd Gerhardt and Simone Gerhardt

Notice how I included Simone Gerhardt in both mafia teams


After the two mafia factions we have to worry about Hanzee because there is no way novase runs this game without Hanzee in it. He will be a killer and he will be strong

Missing Bear Gerhardt, he will be in Gerhardt Crime family syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:11 am yeah, upon checking Marmot's role, I see no reason for Al not to be aligned with him, it may actually be slightly w/w indicative

if al died, marmot could've used his abilities...and it's multiball. iirc marmot was the type of player to want to go deep and in this situation all he needed was al to go over, gain a few credit to live and keep on owning.

he was a godfather, he can use his team mates' abilities if he died, he's also a role cop

pretty nice role

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:19 am it's still possible al could be a villager, but we just need to get him out imo

i don't think he's ever able to clear himself and there's a few reasons to believe he was a bus / he has equity to be on the other team due to the constant resistance to his wagon

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:01 pm My POE IS

Nanook
Lc
Al
Dom
bk


Would put KZA just above the PoE of five

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:13 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:56 am @Justplayingitcool who mafia

BoKnows
TSP
Marmot
Odd

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:12 pm i remember jpic accused bo of wolfy fake drunk posting, which feels like a weird line to take with a teammate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:00 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 6:47 pm general question:

what does everyone in this game perceive the "POE" to be? if you had to give a list of players who are in the consensus "POE", who would you put down?

LC
KZA
Falcon
BK
Fingersplints

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:18 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:00 pm [VOTE: Strawhenge] aubergine


@Strawhenge this is a legitimate vote for compelling reasons and in no way an rng vote. I know you are mafia, tell me who your teammates are

1. I'd love to know your compelling reasons, @Oddmerta.

2. I'd love to know what RNG means.

3. I'm also feeling checked out of this game. First couple day/night phases were very high activity and now the slump has me feeling lethargic. I'm committed to finishing the game though. [borrow's JJJ's hat for a second] I encourage everyone to take space from the game when they need it; mafia burnout is real.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles

Not possible with the check on ted

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:49 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:48 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:44 pm Ben Schmidt literally gets called a "shit cop" by Deputy Solverson in the show so Michelle might be a faulty cop but I really hope not because I hate those roles

Not possible with the check on ted

Ted was janitored tho?

And killed at night. Think we can assume he was murdered by scum unless someone wants to claim it

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:04 am Morning

I'm a tracker-variant of some sort. When I track, I also learn what action was done as well.

N1: I tracked BK to JJJ. It didn't mention anything about pills, just that he is an item-giver.
N2: I tracked Nook to Dom. Nothing more needs to be said there.
N4: I tracked KZA to SPF. Apparently, the ability used here is to duplicate failed actions on their target until success.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:40 pm Why would JPIC confirm 2 villagers in Bo and KZA? He could easily track a teammate, it would be more logical

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:47 am Please just check bo

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:48 am I'm asking you to please just trust me and defer to my preference to check bo, if it turns out to be the wrong play you can yell at me in post

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:40 pm Why would JPIC confirm 2 villagers in Bo and KZA? He could easily track a teammate, it would be more logical

I think I posed this question already, but: Is it possible JPIC claimed to have tracked someone who was actually his teammate, attempting to clear them? Scum could have coordinated fake claims.

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:52 pm if i was a wolf tracker i would probably always just claim my real results to avoid anything screw-y that could out me

Hally wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:52 pm if i was a wolf tracker i would probably always just claim my real results to avoid anything screw-y that could out me