The Syndicate

I dont eat meat fam :[

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 11:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:19 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:04 pm JJJ can you share your tinfoil thoughts about Epi?

To put it succinctly, I believe he is doing less than it appears he is doing on the surface. His suspicions of you and lapluie didn't really develop, in particular the latter during the EOD sequence when lapluie had quite a bit to say. His civilian reads on INH and LC exist without substance, which gives me the concern that these reads are there to look the part rather than to be the part.

This is bullshit because:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:10 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:17 pm Epignosis, how are you doing?

Drowning in reading posts, cooking supper, and placing wagers. Weren't you fire a while ago?

I am not here to go over juliet's posts and lapluie's posts when I'm six pages behind, cooking, and gambling. This is an unreasonable thing to suspect me for.

What drives me bananas is that JJJ calls me a "tinfoil suspect."

Nah.

Any sane person would have just called me a suspect and made a case. This guy is trying to move shit on to me, someone he HAS to know can't be on all the time because of work, and make a kill elsewhere. This is trash.

Lynch JJJ and save yourselves some trouble. If he was good, he'd have sense enough to see I can't be here at work because most pages are blocked (he knew that beforehand), and catching up on six pages while cooking and gambling is no joke.

I also don't believe his Long Con vote was a good civilian vote. He voted for LC because LC voted Marmot for something something no reason? Fuck outta here.

Lynch 3J if I die.

FE Mafia round two

One thing's for sure. Probably. I doubt that Epignosis is scum and JaggedJimmyJay is civilian.

Has there been a Jay vs. Epi shit shouting match before when one or both was Mafia? I would love to read it.

This particular version was so predictable it seems staged to me.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:32 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:27 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:24 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:22 am i want to add you cropped out the second quote's context so it looks worse

Please explain your post when you initially reacted to lapluie being lynched.

I had moved on from suspecting Lapluie and then the town suddenly Hot Potatoes over to her while im away? it looked opportunistic at best. a no-go from my point of view

So it was town who did that, eh?

jay you know what i mean, its like calling my girlfriend, "dude" or "my guy" it's a generality

caught up.

*middle fingers to the crowd*

im going to sleep

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 7:55 pm I agree with Jay about Epi being weirdo. That sprityo post getting all high horse about the lynch seems lame but I dunno about scum lame more just lame lame. I am pretty sure he got well over his lap sus since he only self voted because he couldn't unvote. The worst part about it is he didn't have the cajones to just vote someone else instead of himself but it's the sort of fearless weirdo move I see town make and get lynched for more than scum.

Sprityo why you no vote anyone else?

Also rip lap.

Phone posting this weekend so rip my contributions.

my time difference now that im overseas is super fucky

so i unvoted and didnt get time to get back to the game until it was too late

No. Why did you unvote to yourself instead of picking someone to vote for even if just for pressure? It seems really sheepish.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:42 am caught up.

*middle fingers to the crowd*

im going to sleep

Back here young man.

I'm having flashbacks of Epignosis vs Sloonei in Lord of the Rings Mafia. They were both mafia in that game.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:42 am caught up.

*middle fingers to the crowd*

im going to sleep

According to Lapluie's Law, you're a pure townie.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:44 am I'm having flashbacks of Epignosis vs Sloonei in Lord of the Rings Mafia. They were both mafia in that game.

Neat. Have you ever seen a Jay vs. Epi when one or both was bad?

so long night huh

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:46 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:44 am I'm having flashbacks of Epignosis vs Sloonei in Lord of the Rings Mafia. They were both mafia in that game.

Neat. Have you ever seen a Jay vs. Epi when one or both was bad?

Nope, never even seen a baddie Jay.

Or maybe I have, can't remember.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:39 am Has there been a Jay vs. Epi shit shouting match before when one or both was Mafia? I would love to read it.

I recall one example in each direction.

Mountain Mafia: Civilian Epi versus Mafia Jay

RED vs. BLUE: Mafia Epi versus Civilian Jay

We've never been mafia teammates. These fights definitely take place often and usually it ends up nothing. Perhaps the most annoying thing about the game of Mafia for me in the year 2018 is that deriving civilian reads often requires getting into a fist fight. But yanno.

Epi is bad. I dunno if Jay is bad too but Epi hounded Jay straight out of the gates for reasons he can't remember and punctuation and seems more interested in trolling Jay than finding bad guys. His gimmick this time was meh as fuck and I bet he did it to play to his meta. I don't know how anyone can think he comes out of that interaction looking good.

They both softly prodded each other and then it predictably turned into a full blow up. They both look worse for it but Epi is just straight up talking shit.

Lynch Epi.

Let's skip all this petty nonsense, and you just give me my towncard, k?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:39 am Has there been a Jay vs. Epi shit shouting match before when one or both was Mafia? I would love to read it.

I recall one example in each direction.

Mountain Mafia: Civilian Epi versus Mafia Jay

RED vs. BLUE: Mafia Epi versus Civilian Jay

We've never been mafia teammates. These fights definitely take place often and usually it ends up nothing. Perhaps the most annoying thing about the game of Mafia for me in the year 2018 is that deriving civilian reads often requires getting into a fist fight. But yanno.

Can you see anything in RvB that looks like Epi here?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:54 am Let's skip all this petty nonsense, and you just give me my towncard, k?

This man is a civilian god damn it.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:40 am This particular version was so predictable it seems staged to me.

Understandable. That was my initial impression of the dramatic nature of Epi's language when speaking about what I should know re: his constraints. That's not my favorite thing.

In the meta realm though civilian Epignosis has a long history, especially with me, of reflecting suspicion severely the moment he receives it. This bore that appearance.

At this point I am going to let the rest of you render judgment on that nonsense. I can't be objective.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:53 am Epi is bad. I dunno if Jay is bad too but Epi hounded Jay straight out of the gates for reasons he can't remember and punctuation and seems more interested in trolling Jay than finding bad guys. His gimmick this time was meh as fuck and I bet he did it to play to his meta. I don't know how anyone can think he comes out of that interaction looking good.

They both softly prodded each other and then it predictably turned into a full blow up. They both look worse for it but Epi is just straight up talking shit.

Lynch Epi.

And here I was thinking the opposite. Why would Epi pick a fight with Jay Night 1 if he was mafia and Jay wasn't?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:54 am Can you see anything in RvB that looks like Epi here?

I don't know that I could draw a meaningful parallel which would isolate a "mafia Epi" alignment. I thought he was exactly like his RvB self in Fiddler and he was a civilian there. In this case I wouldn't say meta is an interesting reason to suspect Epignosis.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:57 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:53 am Epi is bad. I dunno if Jay is bad too but Epi hounded Jay straight out of the gates for reasons he can't remember and punctuation and seems more interested in trolling Jay than finding bad guys. His gimmick this time was meh as fuck and I bet he did it to play to his meta. I don't know how anyone can think he comes out of that interaction looking good.

They both softly prodded each other and then it predictably turned into a full blow up. They both look worse for it but Epi is just straight up talking shit.

Lynch Epi.

And here I was thinking the opposite. Why would Epi pick a fight with Jay Night 1 if he was mafia and Jay wasn't?

Have you met Epignosis?

I've eaten his cornflakes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:54 am Can you see anything in RvB that looks like Epi here?

I don't know that I could draw a meaningful parallel which would isolate a "mafia Epi" alignment. I thought he was exactly like his RvB self in Fiddler and he was a civilian there. In this case I wouldn't say meta is an interesting reason to suspect Epignosis.

I just skimmed your ISO in Mountains and I don't think either of you give away much.

The only thing I picked up was that it was slightly less hostile than the recent versions I've seen play out but that was both sides. Mafia Jay maintained a fairly pragmatic and patient perspective up to where I stopped skimming as opposed to here where you swore and got haughty in your civvie way.

I could see subtle differences from the Mafia Jay there vs. the civvie Jay here. You were friendlier there and more prepared to explain yourself to him. Epi seemed the same as he always is as a civ.

The skim made me a bit more confident that you are town. It did nothing to my current Epi read.

That long winded argument was just..l ugh
This didn't happen in Greece with Epi and his behavior seems, weird, yet I can understand why he would be frustrated. He's probably floating around green/null suppose in my mind.
The comment regarding the misinterpreted translation is buyable as JJJ tried to just make an assumption from Epi. I guess this is fine. I think JJJ looks better to me than Epi but I'm not 100% comfortable/confident saying that due to inexperience with them both

Can someone else answer this question: Does Epi traditionally go after someone (or jay/another high poster/'leader') early on in games? Or was this just something abnormal?

The length of the argument seems to make the whole thing more believable in my mind that they aren't BOTH scum just distancing themselves. If one of them flips town with no additional evidence in the other to also suggest they're town, I suggest we take a good look at them and use roles (I don't know if we have investigative roles through unlocked secrets) to try and clear them because they will be useful leaders to have late game (moreso than myself, for sure)

If they're both scum I will eat my hat and record it for you all

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:17 am even though he disrespected my cool leaf avatar :\

It is pretty awful. The fire one was better

Well, interesting argument. I know more about Epi I guess than I realized because I knew he was likely to not be able to access the thread from work and also that around dinner time he both cooks and places his bets for the night, so it does make sense to me that he was trying to catch up instead of keeping up with live action in the thread. I didn't play the other games referenced where Epi has reacted this way but its good to know from Jay that he's seen this behavior before from a civ Epi. And it's good to know from Mac that Jay does this cursing thing when he is civ because that part of it struck me as odd, in fact hostile, which made me think maybe he and Epi were staging the whole fight thing. (My thought was that admin Jay wouldn't risk behaving that way unless they both were on the same team.) So I guess I come out of this with an unchanged view on both of them, i.e., that they are both civ.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:30 am

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:42 pm While we're chatting over the more glaring suspicions, I'll share my lone tinfoil: Epignosis.

Good afternoon everyone -

JJJ can you share your tinfoil thoughts about Epi?

@@sprityo what do you think about Dizzy's catch?

what catch? is it a trap?

nagisa is a trap too. very girly boy

for real though. there is no catch? only tinder. people can be foolish and pursue it but itll get them no where. if you expect some kind of weird gambit, strategy bullshit from me in a big mafia game, youre dead wrong

Catch was probably the wrong word. "Dizzy's thoughts" probably would have been more appropriate. What does "only tinder" mean? And I in no way expected some kind of weird gambit, strategy bullshit - I don't know where you're even getting that. You didn't answer my question here but I think you did in a previous post.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:30 am

juliets wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 2:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 1:42 pm While we're chatting over the more glaring suspicions, I'll share my lone tinfoil: Epignosis.

Good afternoon everyone -

JJJ can you share your tinfoil thoughts about Epi?

@@sprityo what do you think about Dizzy's catch?

what catch? is it a trap?

nagisa is a trap too. very girly boy

for real though. there is no catch? only tinder. people can be foolish and pursue it but itll get them no where. if you expect some kind of weird gambit, strategy bullshit from me in a big mafia game, youre dead wrong

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:53 am Epi is just straight up talking shit.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 2:01 am I've eaten his cornflakes.

That's Jay's litter box.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:04 pm

Your GIFs are so great sometimes. I can't believe this one even exists, how delightful!

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 5:04 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:17 am even though he disrespected my cool leaf avatar :\

It is pretty awful. The fire one was better

Im not taking advice on good avatars from you :0

There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:42 am There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

Describe some content of the type you're imagining. I don't understand.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:42 am There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

¡Qué asco!

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:35 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 5:04 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:17 am even though he disrespected my cool leaf avatar :\

It is pretty awful. The fire one was better

Im not taking advice on good avatars from you :0

love it kyle work that avvy

yeah boiiiiiiii get it

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:58 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:42 am There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

Describe some content of the type you're imagining. I don't understand.

Just content. I’m saying there is a big annoying chunk of text where Epi and Jimmy are going around about schedules and Spanish and Jimmy is a dog. I’m gettung fuck all out of it because it’s a dumb accusation and Jay’s right that sometimes Epi just makes dumb accusations.

I’m like a page from caught up from where I entered the game so I really shouldn’t complain.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:49 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:58 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:42 am There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

Describe some content of the type you're imagining. I don't understand.

Just content. I’m saying there is a big annoying chunk of text where Epi and Jimmy are going around about schedules and Spanish and Jimmy is a dog. I’m gettung fuck all out of it because it’s a dumb accusation and Jay’s right that sometimes Epi just makes dumb accusations.

I’m like a page from caught up from where I entered the game so I really shouldn’t complain.

There better be content on the other side of this post, Jack.

i heard if the teachers more than 15 minutes late we're legally allowed to leave

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:54 am i heard if the teachers more than 15 minutes late we're legally allowed to leave

That's right that's an actual rule.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:51 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:49 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:58 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 9:42 am There better be content on the other end of Epi going after Jay for not speaking Spanish.

Describe some content of the type you're imagining. I don't understand.

Just content. I’m saying there is a big annoying chunk of text where Epi and Jimmy are going around about schedules and Spanish and Jimmy is a dog. I’m gettung fuck all out of it because it’s a dumb accusation and Jay’s right that sometimes Epi just makes dumb accusations.

I’m like a page from caught up from where I entered the game so I really shouldn’t complain.

There better be content on the other side of this post, Jack.

This game is 3rd mafia priority for me (started last) and I’m solo parenting today. Gimmie a bit.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:38 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:34 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:33 am What?

"No puedo publicar in el trabajo."

"I can not post in the work."

How did you arrive at "I'm a busy high school teacher?"

That's Google translate, which I would have expected people to rely on.

I translated it correctly with my rudimentary knowledge of Spanish from high school classes. I just thought you meant that you don't have time to post in that environment because students and other responsibilities keep you busy.

If it isn't that, it's that the school blocks certain pages from the site. I literally can't access from work.

So when I get home, I bathe, cook, eat, do sports stuff (which really doesn't take as much time as you think it does), and try to keep up on the six-seven pages I've missed while you were in here talking it up.

When there is a lynch at hand, I am dedicated to get through the thread as fast as possible. I can't sit there and work through live discussion.

Jesus. Get a cell phone.

Lol.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:47 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:43 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:33 am I am here

how are you?

what's ur take on the current jay and epi face off

I liked Epignosis in it. He reads genuine, even though, imo, he might be over-reacting and making it more dramatic than it is and should be. JJJ comes off a bit worse than he started.

What's yours ?

Disagree. NAI for Epi. He comes across as “genuine” or “not genuine” based on mood swings, not alignment.