Re: The Polka Heist [DAY 3]
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:02 pm
Does anyone not have Mac in their POE?
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
Who else do you suspect?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pmNothing.
Epi usually gives me more.
At the very least, there is a major change in how he's approaching the game. Him regretting voting Dom and saying he won't keep trying is extremely non-Epi.
That and nobody was talking much about Eppi before you came so feels like I'm joining a rebellion or something. I like that.
Eh LC I guess.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:04 pmWho else do you suspect?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pmNothing.
Epi usually gives me more.
At the very least, there is a major change in how he's approaching the game. Him regretting voting Dom and saying he won't keep trying is extremely non-Epi.
That and nobody was talking much about Eppi before you came so feels like I'm joining a rebellion or something. I like that.
Not sure if I could find it. I don’t think anything about Wilgy’s ISO gives me a strong scum tell but there were some voting patterns yesterday I could interpret as pointing to scum Wilgy.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:48 pmi iso-ed him in the previous day and I didn't feel it villagery. I don't have many posts, search in my Iso please.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:35 pm @Michelle Talk to me more about Wilgy. I think we had this conversation already, but let’s rehash it.
A feed back on my oppinon would be nice.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot. If there is scum in TMNT the idea is you let that pseudo team coast out to a mafia victory? But I agree with the premise that scum among that group would be more likely to think of possibilities that aren’t 1234 TMNT kills whereas scum outside of that group recognizes immediately they can lose on endgame if they don’t start acting.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
I can only get on when I can get on. We are getting ready for exams and the end of the semester and that's the busiest two times of the year for me by far. There is also an earlier deadline in "All My Circuits," so that gets prioritized over this one.
I said nothing of the sort.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:45 pm At the very least, there is a major change in how he's approaching the game. Him regretting voting Dom and saying he won't keep trying is extremely non-Epi.
I’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
Not necessarily. TSP has a very good counterpoint. Killing outside of the group of 4 to bring attention to them, and they might start to lynch amongst them, as well as other townies doing the same.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pmI’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
This is a good DDL post though me thinkDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
I was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pmI’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
clear = logically followable, not necessarily better or worseTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:06 pmI was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pmI’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
What?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:06 pmI was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pmI’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
I could also go for you.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:20 pmWhat?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:06 pmI was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pmI’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.
I figured you'd just say it here.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:27 amWell we’re half dead now.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:16 am wait why am I accepting TMNT town status as near gospel again someone explain this to me
Because I didn't want to be the one to say it because then someone else can make an argument about WIFOM.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:17 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:20 pmWhat?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:06 pmI was surprised you didn’t delineate this when I asked earlier. I don’t necessarily buy it but I do think it’s as clear as night kill analysis gets.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:00 pmI’d been waiting all day for someone to make this point.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:29 pm So i'm thinking if all four turtles are civ then mafia has a very strong incentive to kill them all. They can't really wifom their way out of it.
But if at least one of them is bad, maybe mafia lets to get the others leave since that member being bad forces town to eventually lynch some of them. True, it may be still smart to kill some of them, but maybe not all of them.
What I mean is that those kills say good things about Sloon and Timmer I guess.
If I was bad, I wouldn’t be making kills that leave me exposed.I figured you'd just say it here.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:27 amWell we’re half dead now.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:16 am wait why am I accepting TMNT town status as near gospel again someone explain this to me
The implicit conclusion here is he’s scum and was trying to distance himself from a bad lynch. The problem with that is it’s identical to Sloonei’s play day 1.
EBWOP: Sig’s play day 1TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:24 pmThe implicit conclusion here is he’s scum and was trying to distance himself from a bad lynch. The problem with that is it’s identical to Sloonei’s play day 1.
I am trying to read Epi as scum, but I don't see this post coming from him unless he's being honest. "I wouldn't do X if I was bad" doesn't feel like the kind of argument he'd make if he was bad.
This is the most substantial post mac has made, and most of his follow up chatter was "Sloonei is scum", so I'm not sure how much any of these words really matter. Michelle is the only player he does not read negatively here. I'm intrigued by the point about LC and sig though.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:23 am Hey it's tomorrow. I see Dom was lynched. That was quite unfortunate. Sorry about that Dom.
I am enjoying reading a game where people are forced to make assertions and shit against me based on nothing. I've not lived this long in a game I've lurked before. I can't promise I won't continue to.
I will however say that Sloonei and TSP pinged me. Epignosis also has some content that I was surprised to see was his. His tone is unusual.
Sloonei is playing quite within himself. I don't think he is a town voice. TSP 's post count list is pretty busyworkish. TSP where's your obvious town play?
Michelle I like. Sig and LC has this weird moment where they coalesced some equally unwarranted suspicion towards her which could be btsc leakage.
Haven't been around.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:39 pm If there is an argument for Epi to be bad, it's that this game has been relatively quiet since Day 1, and Epi's relatively low level of participation has done nothing to change this, and if anything it has helped to maintain the status quo. I don't believe very strongly in this argument.
Yes. This is how I actually feel. I'm not inclined to vote for you.Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:49 pmHaven't been around.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:39 pm If there is an argument for Epi to be bad, it's that this game has been relatively quiet since Day 1, and Epi's relatively low level of participation has done nothing to change this, and if anything it has helped to maintain the status quo. I don't believe very strongly in this argument.
You people wanted music last night. I gave you music.
You wanted your game to fill. I helped make that happen.
I don't know what to tell you.
When people learn that Epignosis' level of activity is 100% tied to his amount of free time and not his alignment, the better off people will be.
Hello. I'm Epignosis.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:27 amNo. The series of trigger votes with hot takes, and a whole vibe of concise snarky posts. Very fake.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:03 amBecause he’s being low key?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:56 am First scum read of the game was Epi. I'll give a cookie to anyone that tells me why.
Get new bones.
I think I didn't have time for a case and posted just conclusion.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:25 pmThis is all?
Talk to me about mac and ddl if you can. How do you feel about each of them?Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:09 pmI think I didn't have time for a case and posted just conclusion.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:25 pmThis is all?
You posted me in the bad ppl pile, why are you voting with me now? Do you share my pov when is so poorly expressed?
I have the same feel. You’re in the bad half but I liked one of your posts today. You can swap with Epi.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:09 pmI think I didn't have time for a case and posted just conclusion.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:25 pmThis is all?
You posted me in the bad ppl pile, why are you voting with me now? Do you share my pov when is so poorly expressed?
Idk.. i didn't read until now the post where Mac reads me and i feel like unnecessary from him to pocket me instead shading me because my own game presence is under my usual play and the easiest thing rn is a push on me. On the other hand maybe I am completely off and this is what a scum want to keep in the game?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:10 pmTalk to me about mac and ddl if you can. How do you feel about each of them?Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:09 pmI think I didn't have time for a case and posted just conclusion.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:25 pmThis is all?
You posted me in the bad ppl pile, why are you voting with me now? Do you share my pov when is so poorly expressed?
Bad reasoning sir, why exactly Epi? What did he do wrong?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:12 pmI have the same feel. You’re in the bad half but I liked one of your posts today. You can swap with Epi.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:09 pmI think I didn't have time for a case and posted just conclusion.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:25 pmThis is all?
You posted me in the bad ppl pile, why are you voting with me now? Do you share my pov when is so poorly expressed?
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:24 pmThe implicit conclusion here is he’s scum and was trying to distance himself from a bad lynch. The problem with that is it’s identical to Sloonei’s play day 1.