The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:23 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:21 pm I can't ISO anyone right now, Mac, sorry. I'm failing at multitasking as it is. I'm just trying to stick around a bit longer to respond to you all and start things. I'm trying to broaden the lines of discussion.

My next priority when I'm not multitasking hard is to ISO TSP, juliets/sprityo, Wilgy, and Scirrus at a minimum. I'd like to peek at 112 too and see if I'm just being overly tinfoily or something.

Why did you change your mind on TSP? Actually you don't have to answer if you don't want I'll ISO him later anyway.

At first glance of his ISO I thought that it was thin but when I read the posts it all just seems on point. Thin but relevant observations. Also tunneling juliets on day 1 isn't something I tend to see Mafia do much.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:23 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:20 pm Unless the title of the thread is wrong, then my apologies, but I thought I said that when I was town

This why subbing back into a game is such a weird thing

Damn, you were both good and bad in that game, I saw the bad one and didn't notice the good one. Damn subbing.

Mac, Show me the evidence if you think that's true, I just spent a while looking for it and that's the only one I found.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:23 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:20 pm Unless the title of the thread is wrong, then my apologies, but I thought I said that when I was town

This why subbing back into a game is such a weird thing

Damn, you were both good and bad in that game, I saw the bad one and didn't notice the good one. Damn subbing.

Mac, Show me the evidence if you think that's true, I just spent a while looking for it and that's the only one I found.

Yeah, sorry to wreck all your research, I guess I appreciate the effort expended in it though lol.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pmLet's refrain from angleshooting.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:38 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Would you be still voting me if I were on the poll?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:47 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:59 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:27 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:26 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 pm Ok, things are still fluid. MP vote anyone? [VOTE: MP] aubergine

seriously what are you even doing my man, how the fuck could I post all this shit as wolf?

Don't you do this every game?

Do what? How could I force this exact tone and content?

Are you saying you are incapable of this? I can post threads and threads of counterexamples.

And I don't give a shit how much a person posts. You doing get points for it. I'm not JJJ or Sloonei.

Then why did you read me as town in Banjo exactly?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:16 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.

In what universe do you apologize to someone you didn't successfully lynch? Is Wilgy bad or not?

And why are you trying to save Sloonei Day 1 when Sloonei was here in MP's shit:

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 pm MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
Scirrus

Town lean -- [would prefer not to lynch]
juliets
Nanook

Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Dyslexicon
Long Con
MacDougall
nova

Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
Jack
Sloonei
Soneji

Stop quoting shit out of context. I had MULTIPLE reads lists and shifted Sloonei rather quickly after that to "let's give X another day here" and spoke ad nauseam about it.

Seems to me you're trying to take my stuff to fit your own narrative.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:50 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:28 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:37 pm How could any reasonable person suspect me in this game right now is something, I swear people think my wolf game is x100 better than it actually is on this site

You helped make shit tie Day 1. We will start there.

This is painfully reductive.

I was multitasking during actual EoD, dealing with my students, so no, I was not able to prevent a tie -- but I was never going to move my vote to Sloonei unless it prevented a no lynch.

Assigning blame for that is totally unnecessary and unproductive regardless.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:37 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:38 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Would you be still voting me if I were on the poll?

No, but I guess this is a moot question by this point.

Why? If I were, would your team kill me?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:18 pm Not much time left before I get locked away. I don't think MP is bad any more. I'll go with the 112 vote. The thunderdome post was opportunistic and not town-minded, and she tried to lockwolf one of two of my townreads. [VOTE: 112[/112]] aubergine

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:23 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:20 pm Unless the title of the thread is wrong, then my apologies, but I thought I said that when I was town

This why subbing back into a game is such a weird thing

Damn, you were both good and bad in that game, I saw the bad one and didn't notice the good one. Damn subbing.

Mac, Show me the evidence if you think that's true, I just spent a while looking for it and that's the only one I found.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:10 pm I know I'm Darth Real-Life Excuses but wouldn't lie about this here, fwiw.

Anyway pops came back.

In my defense, I have nothing to back this up with. But more generally than there being some sort of Defense of Socrates I'm suppose to give, I am sensing a stark and notable libel of my name in these last few pages and would like to threaten legal reprimand.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:18 pm Not much time left before I get locked away. I don't think MP is bad any more. I'll go with the 112 vote. The thunderdome post was opportunistic and not town-minded, and she tried to lockwolf one of two of my townreads. [VOTE: 112[/112]] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:14 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:10 pm I know I'm Darth Real-Life Excuses but wouldn't lie about this here, fwiw.

Anyway pops came back.

In my defense, I have nothing to back this up with. But more generally than there being some sort of Defense of Socrates I'm suppose to give, I am sensing a stark and notable libel of my name in these last few pages and would like to threaten legal reprimand.

I am sorry you had that kind of experience.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:17 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:14 pm

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:10 pm I know I'm Darth Real-Life Excuses but wouldn't lie about this here, fwiw.

Anyway pops came back.

In my defense, I have nothing to back this up with. But more generally than there being some sort of Defense of Socrates I'm suppose to give, I am sensing a stark and notable libel of my name in these last few pages and would like to threaten legal reprimand.

I am sorry you had that kind of experience.

Thanks Epi. I'm good.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:14 am Jack is a stupid lynch and people are just voting for Sloonei cause he said something about “having no hard reads” like half a dozen posts in and everyone went rah

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm I mean I'll vote for LC if nothing spicy is gonna happen

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm It just feels like it was LC the last 6 times or whatever

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm I swear between Speed and LC they've both rolled scum in the last three months then I have in a lifetime and this probably is true

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:19 pm I have gotten the impression that Epi is super town. Have I been fooled? Please tell me.

linki
juliets
not town

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:29 pm TonyStarkPrime is not my idea of a civilian.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:14 am Jack is a stupid lynch and people are just voting for Sloonei cause he said something about “having no hard reads” like half a dozen posts in and everyone went rah

This is TSP's second post (two minutes after his first one). It calls Jack a stupid lynch. Jack dies that same Night phase.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm I mean I'll vote for LC if nothing spicy is gonna happen

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm It just feels like it was LC the last 6 times or whatever

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm I swear between Speed and LC they've both rolled scum in the last three months then I have in a lifetime and this probably is true

I'm sure TSP doesn't buy into the gambler's fallacy, so surely he's taking the piss here.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:19 pm I have gotten the impression that Epi is super town. Have I been fooled? Please tell me.

linki
juliets
not town

Expecting other people to do your due diligence for you is shit. Have I fooled you Tony? Please tell me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:13 pm I have almost 300 posts halfway-ish through Day 2. If that doesn't also suggest I'm town, then *shrug*.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:40 pm

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.

What is your general approach to the game? What will you be looking for on Day 1 and later on?

Nothing real specific. I rely pretty heavily on meta reading on my other site lol, but that won't work here.

Prolly just gonna prod around where I think something should be prodded at.

I think the ideal way of approaching the game is building a town core of people you can trust and solving scum through POE

My approach to later days isn't much different except obviously you have flips and interactions you can work with

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.

Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player

Scirrus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:51 pm So here are some thoughts n stuff!


epignosis - pushed me and asked for my read on sloonei which I like. Seems very "lets get to the point" which i tend to associate with towniness. Gives out reads early and seems to have done the most to advance the gamestate, which i also associate with town

nova - i liked that he gave reads at the beginning, i think there was something else i liked but i don't remember atm lol

sloonei - null. want to hear what more people say about him. i don't really like that he asks a lot of questions but hasn't given much in the way of reads

juliets - seems pretty agreeable, i have a slight scum vibe, but that just be becuase i don't know her playstyle. a couple things like her assuming ppl should think she has scum reads, announcing she would ask the mod about the mechanics, etc found odd. but i can't decide if they're scummy or just player quirk things

everyone else - idk. post more. make yoselfs known k thx

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 am it's late so I will take my leave but will post some things

not lynching myself, 112, nanook, epi, juliets, MPlus, probably nova?

would rather not lynch the ppl who posted like 2 things cuz wouldnt tell us much but ya they should post, think that was Soneji & Funnygurl?

Long Con in particular was kinda odd, he asked me a question about "Fair Enough" out of everything in the thread which i found weird, and then a few posts that seemed off topic. Curious about what about that question specifically piqued his interest

Fine with my vote on Sloonei for now, want some pressure to be there

Dizzy idk probably not today I guess tho his claim is pretty meh

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 am Although considering how few wagons/votes there are on people I doubt anyone is feeling much pressure right now

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:25 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:24 pm

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:21 pm Anything anyone want we to specifically look at? I'm running on little sleep and a lotta caffeine so my reading comprehension is not the best rn

Can you talk about your vote for LC? Just a simple answer to "why" will be sufficient.

Yes, I voted to make it a tie between Sloonei and LC to make things more...interesting I guess. So then we could see who would then break the tie from one way to the other for whatever reason

I actually have no read on LC other than the slight suspicion I had on him yesterday. GTH I would rather lynch Sloonei though, if i'm being honest

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:19 pm @TonyStarkPrime @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I see that you have issues with the juliets/sprityo slot. I also have issue. Can you extrapolate on why you have issue?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:28 pm I'm gonna angleshoot again and say Wilgy would have posted post day 1 if he was Mafia.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:35 pm I'll give FunnyGirl one more Day before I consider her for a lynch. Thin bit of grace. After that...snip. I need to see more.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:00 pm [VOTE: funnygurl] aubergine

Talk some more about that last second vote switch.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:35 pm I'll give FunnyGirl one more Day before I consider her for a lynch. Thin bit of grace. After that...snip. I need to see more.

hello i am here it is time to twg

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:23 pm @Funnygurl555, I am super interested in interacting with you specifically at some point too, let's try to plan that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:18 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:35 pm I'll give FunnyGirl one more Day before I consider her for a lynch. Thin bit of grace. After that...snip. I need to see more.

hello i am here it is time to twg

I do not understand "twg"

The Walking Goofs?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:32 pm Funnygurl’s vote is still a thing that needs to be addressed (mostly by funnygurl herself), but I hesitate to call it a bad look. I don’t think she intended for there to be a tie, as her embarrassed reaction suggests. I also think that sort of loose vote handling late in the day is more typical of a civilian player in general; mafia members are more stiff about where they place their votes and aren’t as likely to just fling them around like that.

And if she’s bad, the only way for her vote change to make sense (from wilgy to me), other than a straight WIFOM argument, is if wilgy is her partner. But pre-flip associative reads are a cardinal sin.

Having said all of that, I have no clear idea why she abruptly decided I deserved to be lynched.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:28 pm I'm playing "Mafia."

Talk to me about Scirrus.

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:28 pm I'm playing "Mafia."

Talk to me about Scirrus.

they make like decent posts and then they post wifom stuff like asking why someone was nk'd so eh

but they seem to be doing everything a town should do-- they're active in the thread, asking people questions, making reads-- but scirrus could be faking that as a wolf. they're null for me. rn i wouldn't lynch

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 10:09 pm This game will be the best game in the history of mafia. People keep saying to me, "Escape From Trump Tower" is the best game.

I am not reading Sloonei's ISO and locking him town off this.

Wilgy is mafia btw.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:32 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:28 pm I'm playing "Mafia."

Talk to me about Scirrus.

they make like decent posts and then they post wifom stuff like asking why someone was nk'd so eh

but they seem to be doing everything a town should do-- they're active in the thread, asking people questions, making reads-- but scirrus could be faking that as a wolf. they're null for me. rn i wouldn't lynch

Very well. Who isn't "null" and why?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:32 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:28 pm I'm playing "Mafia."

Talk to me about Scirrus.

they make like decent posts and then they post wifom stuff like asking why someone was nk'd so eh

but they seem to be doing everything a town should do-- they're active in the thread, asking people questions, making reads-- but scirrus could be faking that as a wolf. they're null for me. rn i wouldn't lynch

Very well. Who isn't "null" and why?

well you're town idk so was juliets but she's gone now, and nanook seems cool

i wasn't a fan of 112 last phase and her post about sloonei and wilgy thunderdoming pinged me but her wagon's in the lead so eh

i think wilgy's townie

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:48 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:40 pm I think we are looking at the mafia version of M Plus 7 here personally. I can sense the mania of mafia MP in his play.

Sloonei you are voting with TSP. Last time I checked you were voting ON TSP. Do you care about that at all?

Elaborate on that please.

The thing about sensing things in people is that you can't elaborate on them. I can put it into other words for you though.

I have come to consider voluminous content as a hallmark of MP's play regardless of alignment. The differentiator to me isn't the volume it's whether MP has moments of mania, or perhaps a better word would be stressposting. I feel like you stresspost less when you are town. I feel like when you are town you are much more stoic. I have seen you stressposting in this game more than I can consider justifiable.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:50 pm Mac I’m stress posting because I have no information in this game so I genuinely don’t know what the fuck is going on. I’m also multi gaming and teaching multiple 5 week summer courses over the internet. I would rather not discuss out of game reasons but those are certainly influencing me here so I felt compelled to say them.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:43 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:32 pm

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:28 pm I'm playing "Mafia."

Talk to me about Scirrus.

they make like decent posts and then they post wifom stuff like asking why someone was nk'd so eh

but they seem to be doing everything a town should do-- they're active in the thread, asking people questions, making reads-- but scirrus could be faking that as a wolf. they're null for me. rn i wouldn't lynch

Very well. Who isn't "null" and why?

well you're town idk so was juliets but she's gone now, and nanook seems cool

i wasn't a fan of 112 last phase and her post about sloonei and wilgy thunderdoming pinged me but her wagon's in the lead so eh

i think wilgy's townie

I tend to agree with you.

Carry on.