The Syndicate

At this point I do think it's healthy to resolve 112. We can re-evaluate MR based on this flip yes? Along with multiple wagoners.

If not, I think a healthy inquiry can be made to Michelle, Sloonei, and now Syn, but not until 112 flip happens. That may shift my perspective on MR and further JPIC.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm guys i think we should sleep

based

Should I claim lie detector to give mafia an aneurism?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:08 pm yeah, the shouty people are generally going along the same lines as our former town leaders so yeah, generally things seem good for us.

Our last "town leader" was Nutella.

She chopped the flipped town cop.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:13 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:08 pm yeah, the shouty people are generally going along the same lines as our former town leaders so yeah, generally things seem good for us.

Our last "town leader" was Nutella.

She chopped the flipped town cop.

witness open wolfing

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:59 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:57 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine I'll be around if anyone has any galaxy brain move ideas

so here's a thought

you can steal abilities for a night

i can use the ability of whoever gets chopped

but there are charged abilities

if you steal a charge ability, or i get the charged ability of a chop... do we still need to charge or do we get to use it immediately?

like if tim died

or if you stole from tim again

do we get another gun?

the answer to this is no

my life is ruined

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:13 pm Should I claim lie detector to give mafia an aneurism?

I can still be the doc, i have experience :smugface:

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:09 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:02 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:59 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:58 pm Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

Wrong, I don't want you dead. I want you to change your ways and stop killing town. If we could all just get along and scum were to concede we wouldn't need to yeet you.

Is 112 in your town pile?
I don't want to kill town, you can relax, i want to kill wolves

no. the case Tutuu reposted was pretty damning imo.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

yes?

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:53 pm While we’re decorating the thread in tinfoil, is there any world where gambit demon changed alignments from neutral to scum?

alison isn't playing as if this is the case and if it has become the case it will be obvious

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

i want tim dead but i also want to do cool things at night and I can't do a cool thing if he's the chop

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:53 pm While we’re decorating the thread in tinfoil, is there any world where gambit demon changed alignments from neutral to scum?

alison isn't playing as if this is the case and if it has become the case it will be obvious

How would this be obvious? eli5

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm I swear if Tim blasts me Hyena you better connect me and Tim so I can bombard him with taylor swift gifs

I did not know you were an Ace Marvel alt..

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:16 pm i want tim dead but i also want to do cool things at night and I can't do a cool thing if he's the chop

Vote it or tote it.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:53 pm While we’re decorating the thread in tinfoil, is there any world where gambit demon changed alignments from neutral to scum?

alison isn't playing as if this is the case and if it has become the case it will be obvious

How so?

Syn you are quickly rising in the ranks of a yeet candidate for me. How does this make you feel?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:53 pm While we’re decorating the thread in tinfoil, is there any world where gambit demon changed alignments from neutral to scum?

alison isn't playing as if this is the case and if it has become the case it will be obvious

How would this be obvious? eli5

if alison fulfills her supposed win condition and hasn't won

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

fair enough lol

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:16 pm i want tim dead but i also want to do cool things at night and I can't do a cool thing if he's the chop

So Tim indirectly generates cool things just like that?

no?

I'm generally not completely up on claims but

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:17 pm Syn you are quickly rising in the ranks of a yeet candidate for me. How does this make you feel?

pretty good

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm I swear if Tim blasts me Hyena you better connect me and Tim so I can bombard him with taylor swift gifs

I did not know you were an Ace Marvel alt..

Umm.. what if Ace is an alt of TSP? ^^

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:43 pm Or LC or Tim

I think Tim is attracting too much paranoia to be truly deep though, like that's the main argument against him being deep I think.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

wtf

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:43 pm Or LC or Tim

I think Tim is attracting too much paranoia to be truly deep though, like that's the main argument against him being deep I think.

everyone thinks his vig shot was town

everyone also thinks it's weird wolves have no extra KP

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Cool

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:17 pm Syn you are quickly rising in the ranks of a yeet candidate for me. How does this make you feel?

pretty good

Why is this?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Do you think it’s likely for such a similar ability to yours to be repeated in the game?
@everyone, what do we make of hollowkatt’s claim here?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:13 pm Should I claim lie detector to give mafia an aneurism?

I can still be the doc, i have experience :smugface:

Lmao, I almost counter claimed Tim’s vig role just to see what would happen. Based on how that unfolded, it would of definitely got me killed

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:21 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:17 pm Syn you are quickly rising in the ranks of a yeet candidate for me. How does this make you feel?

pretty good

Why is this?

means I'm doing something right

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:20 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:43 pm Or LC or Tim

I think Tim is attracting too much paranoia to be truly deep though, like that's the main argument against him being deep I think.

everyone thinks his vig shot was town

everyone also thinks it's weird wolves have no extra KP

he also didn't even make a vig shot tbh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:59 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:58 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:56 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:55 pm this is probably how I find out Wilgy is a Paranoid Gun Owner

I wouldn't even be mad.

would be funny

maybe it wouldn't even work that way, cus I think my theft targeting is technically a day power??? w/e anyways.

I am very confused. We'll see what happens.

very spooky

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:21 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Do you think it’s likely for such a similar ability to yours to be repeated in the game?
@everyone, what do we make of hollowkatt’s claim here?

I'm not sure. My role is pretty unique when I read it. fwiw I'm not counterclaiming, just that it's sort of similar in that I have to bet with the hosts as well. I'd be interested to know how @hollowkatt is told how the bets are made.

let's preflip 112

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:21 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 pm there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Do you think it’s likely for such a similar ability to yours to be repeated in the game?
@everyone, what do we make of hollowkatt’s claim here?

The abilities so far have been pretty usable, even if conditional

two abilities relying on bets seems like busywork for the hosts, especially when the only result for one of the claims is a vest for the night

idk if there being two identical claims shades HK, since he was the first to reveal it, and I'm not sure Epi and Dunya would give fake claims to wolves that are recycled from the actual town powers lol

I wouldn't mind a protective tonight, or at the very least the implication that I may be protected which is gained by me right now asking for it.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:47 pm Tony or Wilgy, or Hollowkatt or.... Radishes? those are the main options?

like unless Radish is trying to powerwolf his way through this last part of the day I think he might just be town?
For a big chunk of the game he was jovial have fun radish that we all love, but he's turned it on to champs winning radish in the last couple of hours with his observations that show he's got a good finger on the pulse of the game and seems to have a good idea of what's going on. The more he's posting today the less I think he's got wolf potential.

I can't track any of these claims or mechanics really even with the tutuu post bookmarked so I'm kinda just playing off of tone, how people are engaging with the thread, and how people are starting to talk about wagons and whatnot and in that sense radish is being pretty townie.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:21 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Do you think it’s likely for such a similar ability to yours to be repeated in the game?
@everyone, what do we make of hollowkatt’s claim here?

I'm not sure. My role is pretty unique when I read it. fwiw I'm not counterclaiming, just that it's sort of similar in that I have to bet with the hosts as well. I'd be interested to know how @hollowkatt is told how the bets are made.

betting the hosts seems like a very epi thing

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:24 pm let's preflip 112

112 Good - MR bad.
112 Bad - We continue to yeet Michelle, Sloonei and Syn in that order.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:24 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:21 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Do you think it’s likely for such a similar ability to yours to be repeated in the game?
@everyone, what do we make of hollowkatt’s claim here?

I'm not sure. My role is pretty unique when I read it. fwiw I'm not counterclaiming, just that it's sort of similar in that I have to bet with the hosts as well. I'd be interested to know how @hollowkatt is told how the bets are made.

betting the hosts seems like a very epi thing

QFT

hm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:52 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:49 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:01 pm I think the wolves are running this game at this point, but it's still early and we got those early scores so I'm not gonna fight it. Town will take a couple punches in the mouth and then wake up.

Three dead wolves in three days does not scream “wolves are in charge” to me.

Is there something about "at this point" that wasn't clear?

I hard disagree with your premise here. Town is running this game and has been. What makes you think wolves are running the game "at this point". Like do you mean right fucking now or do you mean they have been or do you mean something else?
@Timsup2nothin

i remember a role that was about person betting against the host about eod wagons by a previous game of champions hosted by epi in my brief research, so i definitely believe that is a role that epi seems to like a lot

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:25 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:24 pm let's preflip 112

112 Good - MR bad.
112 Bad - We continue to yeet Michelle, Sloonei and Syn in that order.

keep your door unlocked tonight

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:21 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:11 pm

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

I'm not even a water pitcher.
I can make a bet with the mods each night on the leading wagon by visible votes and if I'm right I'm save from bad night things.

seems useless and so distantly conditional that I have doubts

ftr, this is pretty similar to my ability. I also make bets with the host based on the wagons.

Do you think it’s likely for such a similar ability to yours to be repeated in the game?
@everyone, what do we make of hollowkatt’s claim here?

The abilities so far have been pretty usable, even if conditional

two abilities relying on bets seems like busywork for the hosts, especially when the only result for one of the claims is a vest for the night

idk if there being two identical claims shades HK, since he was the first to reveal it, and I'm not sure Epi and Dunya would give fake claims to wolves that are recycled from the actual town powers lol

But on the other hand, it would be pretty wild for a mafia hollowkatt to make up a fake claim independently that so closely resembles a real town role in the game.

Mafia JPIC counterclaiming town hollowkatt’s role in a closed role madness setup is also bizarre.