The Syndicate

Hi, bishes!

What's up? All fun and games, no doubt. I'm on a mafia break, but I was hungry for a relapse.

How dare Jimmeeey die before I arrive though. Disappointed.

But Nut is here to tell me the story of this thread, the bad smell of Eloh's body, and the rest I haven't gotten to yet, and may never get to.

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:54 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:19 pm Analysis post part 1:
Bullzeye gives his reason for voting Quin. He dislikes Quin's questions, and even after Quin provides a valid response, Bullzeye responds with basically "I'm going to say your response looks fake because I'm so set on voting for you." Not the best look.

This is such a generic criticism that it could be applied to nearly every vote in nearly every game ever. The majority of votes happen because one person suspects another and that person's responses don't satisfy the accuser. What one person finds valid, another might not. I didn't find his explanation believable.

Oh, hi! You. You are the one.

[VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine

Speed is voting with me. Does that make me a whip? I want to be a whip.

The agony of waiting for people to show up. All the feels. I missed my drug.

DIZZY!

Not that I'm disappointed, but why are you voting Bullzeye? [mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:36 pm

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:54 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 5:19 pm Analysis post part 1:
Bullzeye gives his reason for voting Quin. He dislikes Quin's questions, and even after Quin provides a valid response, Bullzeye responds with basically "I'm going to say your response looks fake because I'm so set on voting for you." Not the best look.

This is such a generic criticism that it could be applied to nearly every vote in nearly every game ever. The majority of votes happen because one person suspects another and that person's responses don't satisfy the accuser. What one person finds valid, another might not. I didn't find his explanation believable.

Oh, hi! You. You are the one.

[VOTE: Bullzeye] aubergine

I was starting to feel bad for suspecting Bullzeye for a lame reason, but then you just jump in and back me up. Why?

Oh, and putting my vote on Sloonei for previously mentioned reasons.
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

Anyway, I'm just going to write whatever I can recall from reading D1 and N1.

- La la la, rules, angle shooty talk, la la la. Think I left feeling like Nut, Alien, LC, Speed and Jack were town.
- LC got some pressure and the way he responded looked like a town player to me. I do agree with whatever post he had that made everyone go "mmh", about negating the Spoon vote. That was weird. Still read town to me.
- Jack read town, surprisingly. Lol. But also, he said something about if mafia was recruited by player name, then Sloonei and Jimmeey would be obvious choices. But wouldn't he be an obvious choice himself? Don't remember how this went down, but I remember having that thought.
- Nut is the sassy linguist I am in my day dreams.
- I had a dumb reason to suspect Collin, but he's dead so.
- Also, I know that this is occasionally done on this site, but whaaaaaat is up with not flipping people that dies? That is painful. And I accept it, but will still complain about it. Shocked. Flabbergasted. That is just so weird. But hey, ok. The less you know...
- Many players don't really post. Can we kill them?
- Sloonei was a big topic. I thought a lot about this, and I was suspicious at first, which gradually went more over to me seeing why other people were suspicious. I think Spoons may have a playstyle that is a bit similar to mine, or at least it can be. Lots of just doing stuff. So I felt town after a while, but then I was unsure again. Still unsure. I should read the whole thread probably, but meh.
- Turnip has a lot of interesting perspectives. Would be nice to sit down for some tea.
- Bullzeye writes like scumz write. I realize that he is also probably just a very polite and genuinely nice person, but it makes me go all "nope". We'll see.
- Oh, Alien had this whole "I'm so tired right now, I'm not making any sense, sorry" - the kind of "I can't be held accountable for what I'm saying right now"-thing. I don't like that. Scum do that. Why did I town read Alien again?
- Maybe Jimmeey was scum? Lol. His Eloh stuff sucked. Sorry, Jimmeeey.
- Quin has a magnetic pull. <3 But like, I don't trust him or anything.
- That's about it, or more likely, I've forgotten stuff.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:44 pm Not that I'm disappointed, but why are you voting Bullzeye? @Dyslexicon

It was the person I wanted to vote what I read D1. What's your reason?

To clarify, I haven't read anything past N1. Nanananana.

Nova is playing the game. Was nearly lynched? Such null from D1.

Oh yeah, and Spoons and Bullzeye looked very cozy D1. It was lovely, really, but it also made me raise all of my eyebrows at points.

Probably dragging up some irrelevant or forgotten stuff now. Maybe that's not all bad. But yeah. I want to read everything, but also, I'm lazy.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:44 pm Not that I'm disappointed, but why are you voting Bullzeye? @Dyslexicon

It was the person I wanted to vote what I read D1. What's your reason?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:24 am

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:17 am

Infected_alien8_ wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 1:15 am Very initial first impression of the thread: Jay feels off, don't know why though

Probably trying to avoid the obvious conclusion that he was recruited.

Why is it obvious Jay would be recruited? The sign-up thread mentions that the baddies recruit roles, not players.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:47 am How many bad robots do we think there are?

Somewhere between 1 and 24.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:50 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:17 pm It was a nice quiet Day 0. Nothing happened.

Jay said this, which can mean one of two things:
Something happened to him on Day 0
OR
Nothing happened to him on Day 0.

OR
Something happened to someone else on Day 0.

I wish something had happened to me on Day 0...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:30 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:47 am How many bad robots do we think there are?

Good way of look at whether people read the rules or not.

This isn't a closed setup, dude. It's an open setup with most details hidden.

I was beginning to think I was the only person who had done this!

The above are some quotes and replies from a single Bullzeye post. I cut some irrelevant stuff out.

"I read the rules!"
"I dunno how many bad bots there are." (Maybe being cheeky, idk)
"Gee, pity I'm not mafia..."
"Guys I totally read the rules!"

I'm getting two pings from this post. Forced ignorance and a... I don't even know what to call that middle thing. Tonally fake role regret?

Started from this post. Since then, Bullzeye has picked up answers people have dropped for them, been cozy with sloonei as you mentioned, disappeared for a phase despite popping online a few times...

Etc.

I have pings.

A'm mind-melding with you for the most part on reads, Dizzy. Mostly same feels about Alien, but still think town there despite the 'don lissen to me' talk. Same feel on sloondawg, Jack, other stuff.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:04 pm A'm mind-melding with you for the most part on reads, Dizzy. Mostly same feels about Alien, but still think town there despite the 'don lissen to me' talk. Same feel on sloondawg, Jack, other stuff.

You were more articulate with your suspicion, but I also didn't like that post at all. It felt very constructed. Plus, overall being just helpful enough, but not really sticking out.

Let's lynch Bullz, and then he'll just flip scum, and I won't have to read the entire thread.

Was nobody lynched D2? What happened?

Kyle and Sprit is also here, and I find no reason to trust either.

What was that whole conversation that K-ness had about semantics and what to call the bad guys or whatever? Can you talk about that, K-ness?

So many players in this game. O.o

Lol, D2 was skipped, and Epi is trolling people with orange letters. Good, good. It all becomes clear now.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:31 am That said, I imagine Bullzeye is being cheeky in the second response, based on his other posts.

So, like, you had been following the thread by this point?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:47 pm Why couldn’t Kyle or Turnip Head have killed Jay?

I guess the implication is that Turnip came in and said that Jimmeeeey was scum and plz fight about it. But a kill is never one player's decision anyway when you have a whole team. In my experience, the kill choice is affected by many random variables, especially this early. So that whole defense is null.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:04 pm Compelling thoughts on Luna there, LC. I'll have to look into her more, I had a civ lean but can't think of a good justification why which is a bad sign, and I could mayyyybe see her and sloon as w/w.

What is Luna's meta? I don't always follow her train of thought, but she doesn't really come across as scummy to me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:27 pm

Effective immediately, Dyslexicon is replacing White.

Dizzy, can you make your boy Quick come play with us?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:24 pmLooking back at this post in particular now, I do not like that second sentence one bit. It seems to both acknowledge that nova is town while also absolving her for contributing to his mislynch. "It's his fault that I voted for him because he could have tried harder."

Oh, this, regarding Luna. I have definitely seen scum do this. Looking for town that can be lynched with "good conscience". That could be a thing here.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:55 pm Dizzy, can you make your boy Quick come play with us?

Now? : p

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:55 pm Dizzy, can you make your boy Quick come play with us?

Now? : p

I mean, maybe. It’s already D3 ( ) and Sonjei has posted only once.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:19 amIt's just pinging me, like Quin's posts on day 0/1 pinged me. My intuition is awful.

Can you pretend that is good and just play off of that? I find it hard to read you if you're negating everything you say. Your perspective is valid no matter if it's right or wrong.

I think I’ll [VOTE: Bullzeye[/img].

It’s a sexier case than the Luna/Sloonei ones. Let’s see where it goes.] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:03 pmI mean, maybe. It’s already D3 ( ) and Sonjei has posted only once.

Aight. I planted a seed.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:26 pm I can’t jusge this impartially right now, so I need others to offer their input:
Mac’s primary activity on Day 1 was to smear me. He did other things and made lots of noise, but I don’t think it’s unfair to say that I was his #1 suspect.

Mac was subsequently nightkilled. My instinct was to look out for people who would then turn that kill against me. I expressed this early in the day.

sprityo, who hadn’t touched me all game, then comes along to declare me his top suspect because I had expressed my theory about potentially being framed by Mac’s death. I don’t think it was at all unreasonable for me to feel that way, and I’d have no reason not to share that opinion with the thread. sprityo, however, suggests that there’s “no reason” for me to share it if I’m town. I don’t buy that part especially.

What’s more, he hasn’t identified anything in Mac’s suspicion against me that he agrees with. I’d like to see him at least try to do that. But for now I get the sense of a baddie making a concerted effort to spin a case against an established suspect (me). I do not get the sense that sprit has carefully considered my position in any of my posts. Instead it feels to me like he just seized onto a suspicion that already existed and is using that as his authority to suspect me.

Can anyone else see that, or am I just being too defenice here?

Does he need to carefully consider all angles? His accusation is pretty clear and simple. Didn't you also say that Mac had no real reason to suspect you? How would Sprit agree with something that isn't really there? (If you didn't say this, then my mistake, but I seem to remember something like that, you complaining that Mac didn't really have a reason). You're setting up tasks to players who suspect you. Who do you believe is mafia?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:27 pm Bullzeye
DFaraday
Dom
DrWilgy
Infected_alien8_
JackofHearts2005
K-Ness
Kylemii
Long Con
Lunalee
Marmot
novaselinenever
nutella
Quin
Simon
Sloonei
speedchuck
Soneji
sprityo
Turnip Head
White

Updated list.

Pretty much. Why green for Quin and Kyle though?

Well, I guess I'm caught up, and mostly talking to myself.

Sprit trending up. Spoons trending down.
Something something, where is Alian and LC and like everyone?

Probably scum in the lurkers. Which is boring.

Is Spoons Sloonei?

I'm going to bed. Good night.



<3

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:34 pm Is Spoons Sloonei?

Yus. Spoooooons <3

Night night.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:26 pm I'd also like to hear @novaselinenever's perspective on yesterday's deadline. He popped up at just the right time to swat our votes away. Did you see anything from any particular players that stood out to you, nova?

What's u! Just popped up back again, i'm going to have to catch up and refresh on some stuff but I had you, Lunalee and Nutella stand out to me. Colin too but he dead lol.

Hot Take ™: At least two of the following are bad: Jack, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, Speed.

K-Ness wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:49 pm I just can't keep up in these games. Smooth move lynching Elohcin making it even more difficult for me.

hey, what does this part mean

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:39 am

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:41 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:20 am Well, that's convenient. Who wants to go through all the trouble of voting?

If there's a vigilante type Civ role, then maybe we can have a faux-lynch where we discuss who is the best target?

Who is the best target?

obviously no one, because we're all friends here! why would they want to kill another friend?

The vigilante should trust in friendship and teamwork, and everything will work out

sprityo's komaeda roleplay is vexing

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:27 pm Bullzeye
DFaraday
Dom
DrWilgy
Infected_alien8_
JackofHearts2005
K-Ness
Kylemii
Long Con
Lunalee
Marmot
novaselinenever
nutella
Quin
Simon
Sloonei
speedchuck
Soneji
sprityo
Turnip Head
White

Updated list.

Pretty much. Why green for Quin and Kyle though?

I'm tone reading them based on previous games. They are the only two players I've done that for, going back and looking at other games. Definitely not lock-town, but then nobody is at this point in the game.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:31 pm It’s possible Mega Man’s lynch triggered the skipped phase.

I’m working under this assumption. Princesses are nearly always town and Mega Man is a beloved character and one of only two surefire townies.

but most roles with nonpublic powers are recruitable, making a recruitable role have a negative utility power like a princess would be kind of weird wouldn't it? how would that even work?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:10 pm sprityo's komaeda roleplay is vexing

... oh that's what that was.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:00 pm Hot Take ™: At least two of the following are bad: Jack, Sloonei, Quin, Luna, Speed.

I mean, yeah prolly. Why is this a thing?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:26 pm I can’t jusge this impartially right now, so I need others to offer their input:
Mac’s primary activity on Day 1 was to smear me. He did other things and made lots of noise, but I don’t think it’s unfair to say that I was his #1 suspect.

Mac was subsequently nightkilled. My instinct was to look out for people who would then turn that kill against me. I expressed this early in the day.

sprityo, who hadn’t touched me all game, then comes along to declare me his top suspect because I had expressed my theory about potentially being framed by Mac’s death. I don’t think it was at all unreasonable for me to feel that way, and I’d have no reason not to share that opinion with the thread. sprityo, however, suggests that there’s “no reason” for me to share it if I’m town. I don’t buy that part especially.

What’s more, he hasn’t identified anything in Mac’s suspicion against me that he agrees with. I’d like to see him at least try to do that. But for now I get the sense of a baddie making a concerted effort to spin a case against an established suspect (me). I do not get the sense that sprit has carefully considered my position in any of my posts. Instead it feels to me like he just seized onto a suspicion that already existed and is using that as his authority to suspect me.

Can anyone else see that, or am I just being too defenice here?

Does he need to carefully consider all angles? His accusation is pretty clear and simple. Didn't you also say that Mac had no real reason to suspect you? How would Sprit agree with something that isn't really there? (If you didn't say this, then my mistake, but I seem to remember something like that, you complaining that Mac didn't really have a reason). You're setting up tasks to players who suspect you. Who do you believe is mafia?

Holy crap on a crap sandwich, how had I not noticed that?

Sloondawg trying to tear apart the case, taking full advantage of Mac's absence and unsupported intuition. Nobody can suspect him based on Mac, because mac died before substantiating. Killing Mac early would be super beneficial because of that, and clever as heckll. Now if we point to the Mac read, he can just ask "Why though?" Genius (If he did it).

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:11 am
Kylemii


Everyone in blue (based on my experience) has the potential to be town leader based on activity shown in their past.

me? 0: