The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:31 pm**

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iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:30 pm effen theorem: players who don't care at eod are scummy

effen theorem corollary: players who only show up at eod and suddenly look really solvy are scummy

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:31 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:30 pm effen theorem: players who don't care at eod are scummy

effen theorem corollary: players who only show up at eod and suddenly look really solvy are scummy

good post

also I'm stealing this name to put next to the hoya theorem in my toolkit

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:31 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.
I'm town, Michelle.
words without base. proove it

I'll pass.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay

At least I have a process and not a half assed theory

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:30 pm effen theorem: players who don't care at eod are scummy

effen theorem corollary: players who only show up at eod and suddenly look really solvy are scummy

Stealing for convenience.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:27 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:00 am i personally have no non syndicate scum reads anymore
this should be a red flag to you that you are not doing well this game unless you're bad

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:07 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:03 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:47 pm investigatives can't claim in this setup!!!!! the biggest potential payoff of a godfather is a single slot hard defending for no apparent reason!!!
Syndicate regulars are very good about using their investigative roles to get mafia lynched even with no claiming. It's ingrained in our systems.
@MacDougall Confirm or deny?
why is this necessary?

"trust, but verify"

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay
At least I have a process and not a half assed theory

idk if you've read all my posts

but even if you delete every post of mine referring to that theory in this phase my volume of solving eclipses yours by like an order of magnitude

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay
At least I have a process and not a half assed theory

Hey, Sprityo. Have your reads changed since you put away your colors?

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm**

Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:34 pm**

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:30 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.
I disagree with this but mostly for mechanical/metagame reasons so you do you I guess

This you do you i often find in mafia is a structure i never understand. I don't say it to receive an explanation from you, but i wish to know your post has no meaning for me :/

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:34 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.

Sprityo, Nova and Radishes it is.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:43 pm Just did a quick ISO of Colin and Sprit.

Colin's thoughts come without agenda, IMO. He sounds like a townie trying to fit into a game that has left him behind. I could be wrong on this, but so far I don't mind him.

Sprit is the opposite. I didn't like that one post in D1, and continue to find thoughts of his I just ...don't like. I'll give examples later if I have a few moments strung together tonight. (I'm in and out, as I said.)

Do you not like my thoughts because you don’t agree with them or do you not like my thoughts because you think I have some kind of hidden agenda?

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:31 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:27 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.
I'm town, Michelle.
words without base. proove it
I'll pass.

you stay in my scumlist anyway.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.

Michelle I TR you and want to work with you. But I don't like Quin being in there on 2 posts. That's such a cop-out.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.

Why am I there fam?

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:47 pm and the fact that he never gave any reasons without prompting and needed me of all people to ask for reasons

maybe that's not actually wolfy? still tho i am bloodthirsty

Oh alright I guess I’ll just piss off then

Apparently no one wants me to post anything when I’m trying to post something

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.

Pawn endorses these two and we need one fast so I guess I'll endorse them as well

better a bad decision than no decision

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm**

My three would be Spirt, Epi and Mac I reckon

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:37 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:47 pm and the fact that he never gave any reasons without prompting and needed me of all people to ask for reasons

maybe that's not actually wolfy? still tho i am bloodthirsty
Oh alright I guess I’ll just piss off then

Apparently no one wants me to post anything when I’m trying to post something

quite the interpretation of that post when the actual interpretation is that you're scummy for not posting enough stuff unprompted

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:37 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:50 pm
Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:45 pm sprityo, since I see you lurking there. Michelle did raise a decent point earlier: why do you read her as scum but not Dom?
I’m not lurking I just got online

Dom is someone I fear more than mac. That and he’s mac’s double with the difference being mac will goof off sometimes

Dom is a player who will give the truth, the rude truth, and overall someone who hasn’t said anything I believe to be BS since he started making posts.

Michelle I can’t think of anything she’s said that’s been memorable, nothing to stick in my mind per day. Maybe I’m not looking, maybe it’s because it wasn’t anything important

This is such a compliment that I do not deserve.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:37 pm**

Pawn dude and Radishes dude, one is def scum

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:43 pm Just did a quick ISO of Colin and Sprit.

Colin's thoughts come without agenda, IMO. He sounds like a townie trying to fit into a game that has left him behind. I could be wrong on this, but so far I don't mind him.

Sprit is the opposite. I didn't like that one post in D1, and continue to find thoughts of his I just ...don't like. I'll give examples later if I have a few moments strung together tonight. (I'm in and out, as I said.)
Do you not like my thoughts because you don’t agree with them or do you not like my thoughts because you think I have some kind of hidden agenda?

Bit of column A, bit of column B.

I feel I do disagree with your reads (don't remember which per se) but I also do feel I read your posts and wonder if you're forcing certain thoughts a bit.

It might also just be a stylistic difference and I'm misreading you entirely, but what can you do.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm**

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.
Pawn endorses these two and we need one fast so I guess I'll endorse them as well

better a bad decision than no decision

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm**

My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.
Michelle I TR you and want to work with you. But I don't like Quin being in there on 2 posts. That's such a cop-out.

then i should switch him with LLD and make a Nova LLD Spityo trio

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:39 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.
Why am I there fam?

Your EoD vote and your lack of play today until recently.

Fwiw I haven't minded some of your posts here lately, but we need a pool and we can't discuss specifics, so in you go.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:40 pm**

I just got home, and I am a few pages behind and I'm still not done with my work.

All I can ask of (remind) everyone is that if you are a civilian, please make sure you've copied and pasted my work somewhere to present to those on the other side, especially as a hedge in case you decide I am the one who should be cast off. Please do not let my voice be silenced, even if you don't agree with it.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:40 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.

Oh, my *real* three is different. This is my what-is-acceptable-to-you-plebs three.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:40 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.

112 is like

still the only defensible one on this list fmpov

idk tho I always feel obvtown afafafaf

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm**

I’m gonna just archive this whole thread cause fuck game mechanics.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.
Michelle I TR you and want to work with you. But I don't like Quin being in there on 2 posts. That's such a cop-out.

why do you TR me?

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:32 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay
At least I have a process and not a half assed theory
Hey, Sprityo. Have your reads changed since you put away your colors?

Nope, my last thing about my half and half remains the same

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm My three would be Spirt, Epi and Mac I reckon

mild spice, like a watered-down curry

you had your chance to play the game over the last 96 hours of Day

either give me something with serious heat or get out of my kitchen

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm**

I will rely on my memory as always

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm**

I'm just going to copiously screenshot the thread tbh. Only way to be certain.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:40 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.
112 is like

still the only defensible one on this list fmpov

idk tho I always feel obvtown afafafaf

Like 6 people have expressed suspicion of Radishes.

They’re just quieter than the ones expressing suspicion of say...Dom.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm I’m gonna just archive this whole thread cause fuck game mechanics.

townish idea tbh

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:51 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:35 pm With apologies for not providing any specific quotes (none stood out as the best examples), I just ISOed Dom and like him. His analysis doesn't have any recognisable agenda. In fact, he mostly just picks a fight with Rabbit. Scum!Dom surely tries to play with his teammates a bit, at least to the point of picking a fight with someone they'd have a hope of shading, if not outright focusing on players they can get mislynched; no one scumreads Rabbit, do they?

So I think Dom is a DNL for me.
i generally agree with this take actually

Do you have takes that aren't more fluid than let's say... water?
Like your opinions seem to morph based on who you're talking to...

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay

...non player dom?
eat a hat

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:39 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.
Why am I there fam?
Your EoD vote and your lack of play today until recently.

Fwiw I haven't minded some of your posts here lately, but we need a pool and we can't discuss specifics, so in you go.

You asked about my post, and I gave you an explanation. What's your take on that? Haven't seen you get back to me, it feels weird especially if you're genuinely trying to figure me out. Engage me there. My lack of play is obviously due to me being busy, it was the same D1 as well. Activity isn't alignment indicative for me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:40 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:38 pm My three are still Radishes, 112 and iaafr.

But I’ll probably vote outside that just to have an impact.
112 is like

still the only defensible one on this list fmpov

idk tho I always feel obvtown afafafaf
Like 6 people have expressed suspicion of Radishes.

They’re just quieter than the ones expressing suspicion of say...Dom.

I mean ya I guess I'm over projecting my own flip on him

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:43 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:26 pm is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.
Michelle I TR you and want to work with you. But I don't like Quin being in there on 2 posts. That's such a cop-out.
why do you TR me?

I didn't in D1 as much, but I think some of that was language and style differences. When I actually read closely, I find your thoughts cogent and solvey and I think we're seeing the game the same way to some extent.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:43 pm**

Evenstar wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:36 pm My three would be Spirt, Epi and Mac I reckon
mild spice, like a watered-down curry

you had your chance to play the game over the last 96 hours of Day

either give me something with serious heat or get out of my kitchen

Ok.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:43 pm**

WELL I GUESS ILL TAKE THE PISS AGAIN

SO MUCH FOR TRYING MY BEST HUH JACK? BECAUSE APPARENTLY THAT ISNT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET PAST EVERYONES FUCKIGN EGO

I’m voting between “This game is bastard+anime gifs”, “this game is bastard syndicate is scum”, and my fucking self

Good night

Fuck off

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:43 pm**

Dom wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:51 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:35 pm With apologies for not providing any specific quotes (none stood out as the best examples), I just ISOed Dom and like him. His analysis doesn't have any recognisable agenda. In fact, he mostly just picks a fight with Rabbit. Scum!Dom surely tries to play with his teammates a bit, at least to the point of picking a fight with someone they'd have a hope of shading, if not outright focusing on players they can get mislynched; no one scumreads Rabbit, do they?

So I think Dom is a DNL for me.
i generally agree with this take actually
Do you have takes that aren't more fluid than let's say... water?
Like your opinions seem to morph based on who you're talking to...

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 3:57 pm I want to kill nonplayers like Dom quin and sprit

and yes I know sprit has a bunch of reads but the dude does not show enough process for me to consider that gameplay
...non player dom?
eat a hat

yes that's exactly how I feel when you quote my readslist with my actual thoughts and dismissively imply it's worthless without even showing what you disagree with and why

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:44 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:41 pm I’m gonna just archive this whole thread cause fuck game mechanics.

inb4 we're back to D2 after this phase

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:44 pm**

>Dom shows up

>Literally last half hour had a post on the effen theorem.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:44 pm**

There's probably some revival mechanic in the game since the whole dying in a dream scenario sending them to limbo then rescuing people from limbo back to reality

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:45 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:42 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:39 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:35 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:33 pm Have we settled on a threesome yet?

I want Sprit and Nova in there. Can't decide on a third at the moment.
Why am I there fam?
Your EoD vote and your lack of play today until recently.

Fwiw I haven't minded some of your posts here lately, but we need a pool and we can't discuss specifics, so in you go.
You asked about my post, and I gave you an explanation. What's your take on that? Haven't seen you get back to me, it feels weird especially if you're genuinely trying to figure me out. Engage me there. My lack of play is obviously due to me being busy, it was the same D1 as well. Activity isn't alignment indicative for me.

My time is limited - sorry for not getting back to you.

I actually sort of liked your response, but I don't think it clears you because it's equally an easy one for a scum to make.

Look, if we had more time we could maybe sort this out, but at the end of the day I found a handful of votes, including yours, scummy, and everyone here has rejected some of my other reads.

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:45 pm**

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:17 pm sprityo is scummy because I hated his reasons for the reads on 112 voters when I asked

Dom is scummy because he pushes me primarily by saying he doesn't trust me and doesn't link my behavior to actual scum behavior, just describes how it looks bad

quin is scummy because of his second of two posts today calling my unaligned read of quin/tsp interesting and adding nothing

...no opinions that aren't shaped by those around them....

Posted: **Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:46 pm**

also stop defending the game as not bastard when core mechanics like a public vote are removed

maybe it's balanced

maybe it was truly randed

but seriously.

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