Inception [Inception Phase 4]

[iaafr]

not gonna telegraph my vote in the slightest rn tbh

[iaafr]

not gonna telegraph my vote in the slightest rn tbh

yes I'm aware this could be considered antitown

thaaaaaaats me xd

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Michelle, what's your opinion regarding the value of a godfather? If you're working on the theory that Dragomir was bussed, does that mean 112 is scum? I don't get your world right now and I want to examine it more closely.

it very much depends on setup, but a role madness with forbidden claims should have a powetful godfather with maybe hidden mechanics.

112s AI doesn't matter and i don't want to speculate about a read i don't have yet

... does the Syndicate do roles that only partially flip on death often? Especially in an environment where the mechanics are already depriving Town of information?

Yeah, I don't buy that this is a real thought. Not being willing to comment on 112 when a page ago you were annoyed at me for "not having a settled read of you" - something that wasn't even true, by the way, I think you're scum - is also a bad look.

you don't have to buy i'm not selling amything.
i didn't have time to write more because i was busy irl and i am also not focused on 112. I can't consider him villager just for being cw but i really don't want to rush a read on him.
You complained you don't have my meta. The MU anon mash finished and had me as Coarsed Cowboy and you were the Dainty Deer. I succeded to spot you villagery very short after you implied yourself in the game.

You talked about me in a shady way That has no connection with the fact i don't give you my read on 112 I don't want to speculate i want to think better at it.

Did you notice I was unlynchable Noble Knight?

I did notice ^^

What's about the GTH should i search you posts and answer?

There’s supposed to be something to doing it spontaneously but maybe just giving the whole player list a gth read is fine.

my vote is going into the pool made of Nova, Quin and Sprityo, Rej's slot was townier i think.

[iaafr]

also was unimpressed with epis catch-up last night and all the work he did overnight could've been to ensure his position knowing he'd be busy this entire day phase

he didn't seem have much drive to reach a conclusion in his catch-up

and I basically need to tunnel him for the sake of my theory

but I'd be extremely surprised if he wins the vote

[Evenstar]

yeep, 1 hour to deadline

Yikes, time to try and push for some consolidation then.

Yeah uh we got some work to do

I think pretty much everyone is fine with Nova and Sprit, with the third for everyone varying between players. That sound about right? @ everyone

I am not super cool with a sprityo lynch, to be honest. He seems genuine and when he's here in thread he does good work. Feels like a case of low volume being interpreted as scummy imo.

[112]

just don't vote 112 let's never resolve wagons I need psychedelic posting in this game to persist

i'm given 'er all she's got, captain

[Michelle]

... I'm gonna put it out there, let's not lynch Epignosis today. The late wagon on him D1 still makes me feel like the scum tried to dunk him as an alternative to Dragomir. Even though his Godfather thing is wigging me out, he's a good enough player that he ought to be able to self resolve, and if he's town I'd feel like a damn idiot.

I like this thought and i was TRing Epignosis.

[iaafr]

yeep, 1 hour to deadline

Yikes, time to try and push for some consolidation then.

Yeah uh we got some work to do

I think pretty much everyone is fine with Nova and Sprit, with the third for everyone varying between players. That sound about right? @ everyone

I am not super cool with a sprityo lynch, to be honest. He seems genuine and when he's here in thread he does good work. Feels like a case of low volume being interpreted as scummy imo.

can you quote what you consider good work

because my willingness to have him deaded is predicated on a lack of good work this day phase

he basically posted the same readslist without reasons twice and reasons came only when I asked and they weren't great

[112]

ugh, MR liking colin is giving me pause.

i've gotten a bitter aftertaste from pretty much all of colin's posts as i've read them. i may have just been reading his posts with a bias, but idk if i get a feeling like that from so many of a player's posts and have them not flip red.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I’m skewing this a bit to make sure there aren’t groups of less than three but is this somewhat where we stand?

There is suspicion here and also objections to a lynch here. Basically, a lack of consensus on if these would be good wagons.
112
Epi
Iaafr
Master Radishes
Pawn Lelouch

There is not a lot of content here and these have been floated as okay lynches.
Dom
novaselinenever
Quin
Rej / ColinIsCool
sprityo


There hasn’t been a ton of discussion about lynching here.
Evenstar
Jackofhearts2005
Lady LambdaDelta
MacDougall
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME



Maybe we can do something like agree to vote in a certain category or let everyone vote somebody out of a category or something? Idk. I should have though of this more than an hour before deadline.

[Pawn Lelouch]

yeep, 1 hour to deadline

Yikes, time to try and push for some consolidation then.

Yeah uh we got some work to do

I think pretty much everyone is fine with Nova and Sprit, with the third for everyone varying between players. That sound about right? @ everyone

I am not super cool with a sprityo lynch, to be honest. He seems genuine and when he's here in thread he does good work. Feels like a case of low volume being interpreted as scummy imo.

Mainly trying to narrow down who the consenus 3 are right now. Most of the people in thread were saying they were moving him down in the last 15 minutes or so and I don't think I've really seen anyone actually townreading nova.

Who do you think are the consenus 3 we need to decide between and use to hint at final votes? Since we need to establish that asap so we have the most time possible and any voice weighing in on it helps immensely.

[iaafr]

I don't hate the readslist itself but not hating scum readslist happens sometimes when they tmi like 80% and push like 20% wrong reads

[112]

Eva's trended slightly down from where I had her earlier in the day. Pawn I like, although he's not like he was in the MU Finale.

the set {nova, colin, mac, LLD} is the best i can put together on this dream level

[iaafr]

jack gonna be real i got a big mental block with wanting to cooperate with you after you've tunneled me the whole day and you land on the wrong side of my theory and you seem to not be in tune with the fact that me radishes and 112 should not be on the table and you keep ignoring the scummy syndicate players fmpov

[112]

jack i guess can be town, sprit might be maf- i certainly won't defend them

[112]

i won't be here for eod

[Evenstar]

yeep, 1 hour to deadline

Yikes, time to try and push for some consolidation then.

Yeah uh we got some work to do

I think pretty much everyone is fine with Nova and Sprit, with the third for everyone varying between players. That sound about right? @ everyone

I am not super cool with a sprityo lynch, to be honest. He seems genuine and when he's here in thread he does good work. Feels like a case of low volume being interpreted as scummy imo.

Mainly trying to narrow down who the consenus 3 are right now. Most of the people in thread were saying they were moving him down in the last 15 minutes or so and I don't think I've really seen anyone actually townreading nova.

Who do you think are the consenus 3 we need to decide between and use to hint at final votes? Since we need to establish that asap so we have the most time possible and any voice weighing in on it helps immensely.

I feel like the consensus is {Nova/Dom/Colin}. Both quin and LLD are also getting heat, but I trust that LLD can clear herself if she's town and I'm hoping we have a vig to take care of quin.

[Michelle]

btw. I forgot about LLD i didn't change my oppinion about her. I would be extremely dissapointed if she q
would be town postinf

[Pawn Lelouch]

I’m skewing this a bit to make sure there aren’t groups of less than three but is this somewhat where we stand?

There is suspicion here and also objections to a lynch here. Basically, a lack of consensus on if these would be good wagons.
112
Epi
Iaafr
Master Radishes
Pawn Lelouch

There is not a lot of content here and these have been floated as okay lynches.
Dom
novaselinenever
Quin
Rej / ColinIsCool
sprityo


There hasn’t been a ton of discussion about lynching here.
Evenstar
Jackofhearts2005
Lady LambdaDelta
MacDougall
Michelle
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME



Maybe we can do something like agree to vote in a certain category or let everyone vote somebody out of a category or something? Idk. I should have though of this more than an hour before deadline.

The issue is that groups of 5 nearly guarantees that scum will be able to pile on vptes get a free town lynch within a pool.

And that no discussion about lynching pool is honestly kind of a bad one since LLD doesn't fit there for certain, and to an extent you and Michelle don't as well, since I've seen it floated a fair bit.

[Michelle]

btw. I forgot about LLD i didn't change my oppinion about her. I would be extremely dissapointed if she
would be town posting like this

ebwop
pressed accieentally post before finishing

[Michelle]

A consensus 3 would be good to have

[Jackofhearts2005]

I don't hate the readslist itself but not hating scum readslist happens sometimes when they tmi like 80% and push like 20% wrong reads

What is this referring to?

jack gonna be real i got a big mental block with wanting to cooperate with you after you've tunneled me the whole day and you land on the wrong side of my theory and you seem to not be in tune with the fact that me radishes and 112 should not be on the table and you keep ignoring the scummy syndicate players fmpov

I keep asking why the Syndicate players are scummy and I keep getting jokes, “well, some of them are actually null” and crickets.

I mean stuff beyond being absent.

Jay is too much of a professional to honestly make the whole scum team Syndicators. I mean, just look at him.

[iaafr]

the top quote is referring to sprityos readslist, which he posted in two forms (list form and colored vc form)

[Dom]

I cannot keep up. I am on page 18. I keep trying to get current and it's freaking impossible.

Dom's push on me still stupid and he's still shading me without actually engaging with any of the reads (acts as if I didn't give any reads after implying my reads list is full of omgus [no u]????)

.....those are the reads you promised you needed to be in a better head space for?

what about u dude wheres your actual insight

....I didn't promise a list of reads and make a big deal of not being able to because *reasons*

I don't find you, jack, hyena very endearing this game.

I miss our rabbit. Haven't seen him in a while.

: (

[Jackofhearts2005]

A Colin/Dom/Quin list feels like a giant copout tbh.

[iaafr]

sprityo is scummy because I hated his reasons for the reads on 112 voters when I asked

Dom is scummy because he pushes me primarily by saying he doesn't trust me and doesn't link my behavior to actual scum behavior, just describes how it looks bad

quin is scummy because of his second of two posts today calling my unaligned read of quin/tsp interesting and adding nothing

[iaafr]

I want a giant copout vote today because I'd be annoyed as hell if we mled the actual players who are playing in this game

[Dom]

oh and mac is sus af

[novaselinenever]

[novaselinenever]

Thanks for nothing Jack

[novaselinenever]

oh and mac is sus af

hard agree

[Dom]

investigatives can't claim in this setup!!!!! the biggest potential payoff of a godfather is a single slot hard defending for no apparent reason!!!

Syndicate regulars are very good about using their investigative roles to get mafia lynched even with no claiming. It's ingrained in our systems.

and it's more fun tbh

[novaselinenever]

that eod was disgusting especially after his D1 handling of both suspects, the whole "I don't like firing shots in that situation" is bs

[iaafr]

A Colin/Dom/Quin list feels like a giant copout tbh.

kinda reminds me of how nut said she'd probably get off of her drago vote because she wanted a bigbrain Lynch

you guys in the same faction?

[iaafr]

imagine shittalking my analysis when I effortlessly bring up stuff from d1 in an organic way all the time

[novaselinenever]

don't forget about juliets y'all

[Jackofhearts2005]

Thanks for nothing Jack

[iaafr]

don't forget about juliets y'all

juliets is not in this group

[Michelle]

is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.

[Jackofhearts2005]

A Colin/Dom/Quin list feels like a giant copout tbh.

kinda reminds me of how nut said she'd probably get off of her drago vote because she wanted a bigbrain Lynch

you guys in the same faction?

Yeah, actually.

[novaselinenever]

don't forget about juliets y'all

juliets is not in this group

thanks captain

[Dom]

i personally have no non syndicate scum reads anymore

this should be a red flag to you that you are not doing well this game unless you're bad

investigatives can't claim in this setup!!!!! the biggest potential payoff of a godfather is a single slot hard defending for no apparent reason!!!

Syndicate regulars are very good about using their investigative roles to get mafia lynched even with no claiming. It's ingrained in our systems.

@MacDougall Confirm or deny?

why is this necessary?

[iaafr]

np cutie

[novaselinenever]

is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.

I'm town, Michelle.

[iaafr]

I'm doing fine this game bruh what about you how do you feel you're doing

[novaselinenever]

I mean you just played against scum!nova, it should be day and night contrast. Here I'm just a dumb townie that's lost

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hardclaim the subconscious urge to infodump even when it’s against the rules.

[Michelle]

is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.

I'm town, Michelle.

words without base. proove it

[iaafr]

effen theorem: players who don't care at eod are scummy

effen theorem corollary: players who only show up at eod and suddenly look really solvy are scummy

[Evenstar]

is late at me i will submit my PM in 10 mins and wish us luck.
if my Poe of Nova, Quin and LLD is wrong please say it asap.

Sprityo and Colin can wait.

From outside this thread my top scum is Elephant but he is not here, and i think i can put him in good company with Hyena.

I disagree with this but mostly for mechanical/metagame reasons so you do you I guess