The Syndicate

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:55 pm Ok, here me out.
I'm town, G-Man is town, Daisy is town.
I'm fairly confident TSP is woofin. Tim I'm on as wolf b/c of how things have shaken out. There's no specific "here's why Tim is a wolf" post I can make. All I can do there is point at how things have gone, who he's chopped, and that he's pushing for me to die here.

Kyle I'm torn on. I can see him being lackadaisical wolf who's just posting and being happy about posting, and I can see him as disconnected town who's really only gotten into the game over the last 24ish hours or so.
That leaves Marmot and Mogh in teh winners bracket and if either of them are a wolf then I'm just fucked I guess?

I think the best kills today are going to be TSP/Tim/Kyle. If that doesn't flip a single wolf then fuck. If that flips one wolf great, the last wolf is within G-man/daisy/mog/marmot and we have a chance to find them. If we don't flip a wolf today I think we just lose? We'll be merging brackets after tonight which means that wolves will get a traditional NK action so if we flip one wolf today we start "tomorrow" at 4-1 and we have a good shot.
If we dont flip a wolf we start "tomorrow" at 3-2 and have to be right twice in a row.

I think our best chance at getting at least one is tsp/tim/kyle

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 pmI think it would be really interesting to see the Kyle votes juxtaposed with these takes. Time to go back through the G-Man ISO I guess for his vote tracker post.
I want to unvote kyle here b/c if this is from a wolf it's really well done, but there are a few things that don't sit right with me. If there were concerns about Marmot/Mogh from Kyle during the day phase yesterday I don't remember reading them.
Additionally, none of his votes have landed on Marmot/Mogh. Something to contemplate anyways.

I'm currently working through the votes tally that G-Man has prepared and looking for patterns. I'll have something on that later

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:56 pm probably the smartest and absolute dumbest decision.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 pmI think it would be really interesting to see the Kyle votes juxtaposed with these takes. Time to go back through the G-Man ISO I guess for his vote tracker post.
I want to unvote kyle here b/c if this is from a wolf it's really well done, but there are a few things that don't sit right with me. If there were concerns about Marmot/Mogh from Kyle during the day phase yesterday I don't remember reading them.
Additionally, none of his votes have landed on Marmot/Mogh. Something to contemplate anyways.

I'm currently working through the votes tally that G-Man has prepared and looking for patterns. I'll have something on that later

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:55 pm Ok, here me out.
I'm town, G-Man is town, Daisy is town.
I'm fairly confident TSP is woofin. Tim I'm on as wolf b/c of how things have shaken out. There's no specific "here's why Tim is a wolf" post I can make. All I can do there is point at how things have gone, who he's chopped, and that he's pushing for me to die here.

Kyle I'm torn on. I can see him being lackadaisical wolf who's just posting and being happy about posting, and I can see him as disconnected town who's really only gotten into the game over the last 24ish hours or so.
That leaves Marmot and Mogh in teh winners bracket and if either of them are a wolf then I'm just fucked I guess?

I think the best kills today are going to be TSP/Tim/Kyle. If that doesn't flip a single wolf then fuck. If that flips one wolf great, the last wolf is within G-man/daisy/mog/marmot and we have a chance to find them. If we don't flip a wolf today I think we just lose? We'll be merging brackets after tonight which means that wolves will get a traditional NK action so if we flip one wolf today we start "tomorrow" at 4-1 and we have a good shot.
If we dont flip a wolf we start "tomorrow" at 3-2 and have to be right twice in a row.

I think our best chance at getting at least one is tsp/tim/kyle

I'm coming around to you just being a wolf here.

You are actively pushing a plan that ends with, in your own words, "I think we just lose."

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:56 pm probably the smartest and absolute dumbest decision.

Well, it does threaten to create a tie and let the wolves kill whoever they want, so it isn't great.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 pmI think it would be really interesting to see the Kyle votes juxtaposed with these takes. Time to go back through the G-Man ISO I guess for his vote tracker post.
I want to unvote kyle here b/c if this is from a wolf it's really well done, but there are a few things that don't sit right with me. If there were concerns about Marmot/Mogh from Kyle during the day phase yesterday I don't remember reading them.
Additionally, none of his votes have landed on Marmot/Mogh. Something to contemplate anyways.

I'm currently working through the votes tally that G-Man has prepared and looking for patterns. I'll have something on that later

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

I'm kinda counting on two things:

1) G-Man, Daisy, and TSP surviving here (you could really help with this part)

2) Once I flip town and my motives are established as pure they go on to just chop Marmot and Mohg

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:15 pm okay, yeah I know ties are bad. idk what to do tho. I'm not voting g-man or tim.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:10 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:34 pm

I mentioned all the marmot stuff with less specificity for sure. there was nothing to push or question really cus it's mostly just a vibe thing influenced by a recent experience, I wanted to make sure my thoughts were down on paper, because I don't think anyone else here was part of that game or would notice the disparity. I guess Tim? @Timsup2nothin What do you think of Marmot's read progression on me?

I don't know how you could have missed me questioning mog though? 70% of my posts from this cycle were spent interrogating him on his sheeping of tony.

Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

I'm kinda counting on two things:

1) G-Man, Daisy, and TSP surviving here (you could really help with this part)

2) Once I flip town and my motives are established as pure they go on to just chop Marmot and Mohg

ok, so you're thinking both wolves are Mog/Marmot?

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:15 pm okay, yeah I know ties are bad. idk what to do tho. I'm not voting g-man or tim.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:16 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:15 pm okay, yeah I know ties are bad. idk what to do tho. I'm not voting g-man or tim.

why not?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:10 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm
Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

I'm kinda counting on two things:

1) G-Man, Daisy, and TSP surviving here (you could really help with this part)

2) Once I flip town and my motives are established as pure they go on to just chop Marmot and Mohg

ok, so you're thinking both wolves are Mog/Marmot?

Could be. I am locked in on the two wolves being in you, Kyle, Mogh, and Marmot. Kill two now, kill the other two on consecutive LYLOs, win game.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:55 pm Ok, here me out.
I'm town, G-Man is town, Daisy is town.
I'm fairly confident TSP is woofin. Tim I'm on as wolf b/c of how things have shaken out. There's no specific "here's why Tim is a wolf" post I can make. All I can do there is point at how things have gone, who he's chopped, and that he's pushing for me to die here.

Kyle I'm torn on. I can see him being lackadaisical wolf who's just posting and being happy about posting, and I can see him as disconnected town who's really only gotten into the game over the last 24ish hours or so.
That leaves Marmot and Mogh in teh winners bracket and if either of them are a wolf then I'm just fucked I guess?

I think the best kills today are going to be TSP/Tim/Kyle. If that doesn't flip a single wolf then fuck. If that flips one wolf great, the last wolf is within G-man/daisy/mog/marmot and we have a chance to find them. If we don't flip a wolf today I think we just lose? We'll be merging brackets after tonight which means that wolves will get a traditional NK action so if we flip one wolf today we start "tomorrow" at 4-1 and we have a good shot.
If we dont flip a wolf we start "tomorrow" at 3-2 and have to be right twice in a row.

I think our best chance at getting at least one is tsp/tim/kyle

I'm coming around to you just being a wolf here.

You are actively pushing a plan that ends with, in your own words, "I think we just lose."

Remove me from the equation for a minute. If you want to replace someone from the set {Tim, TSP, Kyle} who do you remove AND which of G-Man or Daisy do you replace them with?

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:23 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:10 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm
I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

I'm kinda counting on two things:

1) G-Man, Daisy, and TSP surviving here (you could really help with this part)

2) Once I flip town and my motives are established as pure they go on to just chop Marmot and Mohg

ok, so you're thinking both wolves are Mog/Marmot?

Could be. I am locked in on the two wolves being in you, Kyle, Mogh, and Marmot. Kill two now, kill the other two on consecutive LYLOs, win game.

wait wait

that is to many kills tim

too many kills tim.

I'm confused

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm tim's self sacrificing is cheesy and bullshit but mine is cool and heroic it's different

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm Tim is wrong to have faith in me, I have no trust

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:32 pm hot take I think Tim's cheesy self-sacrificing bullshit seems earnest and townsided

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm tim's self sacrificing is cheesy and bullshit but mine is cool and heroic it's different

Tim’s actually self voting, coward

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:10 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:02 pm
Honest answer? Don't care. You guys were up there in the upper bracket where no one was dying no matter how you voted or what you said. Reads there are basically equivalent to typical day one reads...maybe even just RVS.

I didn't ask if you cared I asked what you thought.

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

I'm kinda counting on two things:

1) G-Man, Daisy, and TSP surviving here (you could really help with this part)

2) Once I flip town and my motives are established as pure they go on to just chop Marmot and Mohg

ok, so you're thinking both wolves are Mog/Marmot?

Could be. I am locked in on the two wolves being in you, Kyle, Mogh, and Marmot. Kill two now, kill the other two on consecutive LYLOs, win game.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:16 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:15 pm okay, yeah I know ties are bad. idk what to do tho. I'm not voting g-man or tim.

why not?

because I think g-man and tim are town. im not voting out any towns. it's different if I did it by mistake and voted the wrong person.

why would I ever vote someone I townread who hasn't done anything to make me sus them?

if tim did something sus id vote him. same with gman.

they haven't. we don't all have the answers. mistakes that were made look like mistakes and not mafia trying to manipulate things.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:55 pm Ok, here me out.
I'm town, G-Man is town, Daisy is town.
I'm fairly confident TSP is woofin. Tim I'm on as wolf b/c of how things have shaken out. There's no specific "here's why Tim is a wolf" post I can make. All I can do there is point at how things have gone, who he's chopped, and that he's pushing for me to die here.

Kyle I'm torn on. I can see him being lackadaisical wolf who's just posting and being happy about posting, and I can see him as disconnected town who's really only gotten into the game over the last 24ish hours or so.
That leaves Marmot and Mogh in teh winners bracket and if either of them are a wolf then I'm just fucked I guess?

I think the best kills today are going to be TSP/Tim/Kyle. If that doesn't flip a single wolf then fuck. If that flips one wolf great, the last wolf is within G-man/daisy/mog/marmot and we have a chance to find them. If we don't flip a wolf today I think we just lose? We'll be merging brackets after tonight which means that wolves will get a traditional NK action so if we flip one wolf today we start "tomorrow" at 4-1 and we have a good shot.
If we dont flip a wolf we start "tomorrow" at 3-2 and have to be right twice in a row.

I think our best chance at getting at least one is tsp/tim/kyle

I'm coming around to you just being a wolf here.

You are actively pushing a plan that ends with, in your own words, "I think we just lose."

Remove me from the equation for a minute. If you want to replace someone from the set {Tim, TSP, Kyle} who do you remove AND which of G-Man or Daisy do you replace them with?

how about we "remove you from the equation" a different way?

If you hadn't been so fired up about coming to kill me and you guys had sent Marmot with Kyle...I'd be saying kill Marmot instead of kill HK.

NOTHING at this point is going to change the fact that I want G-Man, Daisy, and TSP to survive this night, and then commit to chopping Mogh and Marmot in whatever order is convenient. If one of those three has me fooled...my bad. And I have been wrong a lot this game...but not about who would be bad town at LYLO if town. If Mac lived to LYLO a town would vote him. If Alison lived to LYLO a town would vote her. I missed, but I have no regrets.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:28 pm I’m so tempted to chop GMan over tim here tbh but that just feels foolish

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:39 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:16 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:15 pm okay, yeah I know ties are bad. idk what to do tho. I'm not voting g-man or tim.

why not?

because I think g-man and tim are town. im not voting out any towns. it's different if I did it by mistake and voted the wrong person.

why would I ever vote someone I townread who hasn't done anything to make me sus them?

if tim did something sus id vote him. same with gman.

they haven't. we don't all have the answers. mistakes that were made look like mistakes and not mafia trying to manipulate things.

Then whom are you voting for Daisy and why shouldn't I vote for you?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:29 pm Also I’m pretty sure I solved the game on the first page and then nobody listened smh

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm Tim is wrong to have faith in me, I have no trust

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:32 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:23 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:19 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:10 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:19 pm

Fair. I think I have nothing to base any solid thoughts on. Marmot has never cast a meaningful vote, so his reads wandering around the map could mean...anything. Maybe you and him are wolves and decided that a split was in order...you go to lower bracket and he stays for F5 so the two of you aren't on the same path. Maybe he's a wolf and threw town you into the lower bracket to be rid of you. Maybe he's town and he's right. Or wrong. You haven't really had a chance to do anything that I would say justifies any certainty on his part either way, but if he is town he would be at a grasping at straws stage so sure.

The bottom line is that you haven't had a chance to do anything really readable, and neither has he, so neither of you should come anywhere near LYLO...but there may be no way to keep him away from it. We can keep you away from it, by just chopping you. So, no offense, nothing personal, etc etc etc, but we gotta just chop you.

not really what this is about. I've been on board with me dying since like day 3, but thank you for responding um sorry for being weirdly intense lol. It just seems like we both intend on dying and I'd rather not have the fact that the two people capable of knowing why marmot easily townreading me dying at once be the reason he slips by.

I'm kinda counting on two things:

1) G-Man, Daisy, and TSP surviving here (you could really help with this part)

2) Once I flip town and my motives are established as pure they go on to just chop Marmot and Mohg

ok, so you're thinking both wolves are Mog/Marmot?

Could be. I am locked in on the two wolves being in you, Kyle, Mogh, and Marmot. Kill two now, kill the other two on consecutive LYLOs, win game.

wait wait

that is to many kills tim

too many kills tim.

I'm confused

nah...just think it through...we are killing THREE, right now.

That needs to leave you, G-Man, and TSP.

Then there is a merge to F5

You, TSP, G-Man, Mogh, and Marmot. There may be two wolves, there may be just one. Either way, you, G-Man, and TSP just vote together. Either Marmot, or Mogh. If there's just one wolf maybe you win right there.

If you don't, the wolf NKs either you, TSP, or G-Man and we are on to F3. Two of you are still alive, so just stick together.

I have complete faith that if you, TSP, and G-Man just keep each other alive to the end the town will win.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:44 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:26 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:09 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:01 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:55 pm Ok, here me out.
I'm town, G-Man is town, Daisy is town.
I'm fairly confident TSP is woofin. Tim I'm on as wolf b/c of how things have shaken out. There's no specific "here's why Tim is a wolf" post I can make. All I can do there is point at how things have gone, who he's chopped, and that he's pushing for me to die here.

Kyle I'm torn on. I can see him being lackadaisical wolf who's just posting and being happy about posting, and I can see him as disconnected town who's really only gotten into the game over the last 24ish hours or so.
That leaves Marmot and Mogh in teh winners bracket and if either of them are a wolf then I'm just fucked I guess?

I think the best kills today are going to be TSP/Tim/Kyle. If that doesn't flip a single wolf then fuck. If that flips one wolf great, the last wolf is within G-man/daisy/mog/marmot and we have a chance to find them. If we don't flip a wolf today I think we just lose? We'll be merging brackets after tonight which means that wolves will get a traditional NK action so if we flip one wolf today we start "tomorrow" at 4-1 and we have a good shot.
If we dont flip a wolf we start "tomorrow" at 3-2 and have to be right twice in a row.

I think our best chance at getting at least one is tsp/tim/kyle

I'm coming around to you just being a wolf here.

You are actively pushing a plan that ends with, in your own words, "I think we just lose."

Remove me from the equation for a minute. If you want to replace someone from the set {Tim, TSP, Kyle} who do you remove AND which of G-Man or Daisy do you replace them with?

how about we "remove you from the equation" a different way?

If you hadn't been so fired up about coming to kill me and you guys had sent Marmot with Kyle...I'd be saying kill Marmot instead of kill HK.

NOTHING at this point is going to change the fact that I want G-Man, Daisy, and TSP to survive this night, and then commit to chopping Mogh and Marmot in whatever order is convenient. If one of those three has me fooled...my bad. And I have been wrong a lot this game...but not about who would be bad town at LYLO if town. If Mac lived to LYLO a town would vote him. If Alison lived to LYLO a town would vote her. I missed, but I have no regrets.

Press X to Doubt I guess?
You're pushing the wolf path to victory here by insisting I need to be chopped today. It feels like you're purposefully selling me short and trying to push my chop because of how vociferous I've been that you're on my target list for today along with TSP. It also feels like you're trying to trade your life for his, which I don't understand how you're justifying that read.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:47 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm Tim is wrong to have faith in me, I have no trust

I have faith in tim why should I not vote you?

he keeps insisting i don't.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:40 pm Has HK switched his position yet or is he still being inscrutable

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:47 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:29 pm Also I’m pretty sure I solved the game on the first page and then nobody listened smh

I looked through your ISO, couldn't find a solve. Did see you thought Daisy was a wolf way back then though. You still thinking that?