Page 26 of 50
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:22 pm
by KZA
Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:13 pm
Don Wurzeloni wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:54 am
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:46 am
I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.
Let me have a go.
There's definitely not much to go on. The big drinking session probably didn't help!
@KZA why do you secretly town read Ender? Secret reads aren't much use to us.
it's a secret for a reason
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:15 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:14 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:09 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:46 am
I challenge anybody to look at KZA's 50+ post ISO and find me a something that meaningfully contributes to the game.
I see you lack sufficient meta on me
I remember having a light town read on you early on in the last game we played together.
Would you mind linking some relevant meta here please?
Sure here's 5 job town ISOs
I could link you wolf games too but I'm always dead by the end of N1 because I'm useless at it
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... sf=msgonly
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... sf=msgonly
these 3 are in reverse order sorry idk how to fix
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 5&sr=posts
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 735&t=2118
https://mafiathesyndicate.com/search.ph ... 735&t=2015
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:23 pm
by Creature
Was it modconfirmed there are only two factions (town and mafia)?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:27 pm
by KZA
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:23 pm
Was it modconfirmed there are only two factions (town and mafia)?
no
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:27 pm
by Creature
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:23 pm
Was it modconfirmed there are only two factions (town and mafia)?
I want to know if that's the case. Or at least receive a "there may or may not have a third party" response.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
by falcon45ca
Well I'd say odds are good there's at least 1 wolf on HKs wagon
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
by Creature
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
Well I'd say odds are good there's at least 1 wolf on HKs wagon
Jesus that wagon is horrible
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:30 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If I agree with you will you vote ender?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
by Creature
How frequent are wolves fakeclaiming survivor? It's like horrible wolf play so much I don't ever expect actual wolf to do it.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
by KZA
lol we always policy a claimed 3P in closed setup
how tf are people arguing this
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
by Creature
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
Probably not
Rip
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
by Creature
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
lol we always policy a claimed 3P in closed setup
how tf are people arguing this
We don't want a boring day
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:20 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:37 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:32 pm
Imagine ending in F3 with Dolby/Ace and the slot in which one of the heads literally got six-months banned because of the game.
Wait what, bans drama info please?
if you're really interested there's a bans thread on MU you can review. The gist is that one of the heads in that game was posting things that were inappropriate for a game thread
You mean the guy posting furry porn in-thread?
I'm sorry what
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:39 pm
by hollowkatt
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:20 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:19 pm
sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:37 am
Creature wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:32 pm
Imagine ending in F3 with Dolby/Ace and the slot in which one of the heads literally got six-months banned because of the game.
Wait what, bans drama info please?
if you're really interested there's a bans thread on MU you can review. The gist is that one of the heads in that game was posting things that were inappropriate for a game thread
You mean the guy posting furry porn in-thread?
yeah, that's the one. I was trying to be discrete lol
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:54 pm
by Duskfall
Can we get that guy in this game please
Asking for a friend
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:56 pm
by Creature
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:54 pm
Can we get that guy in this game please
Asking for a friend
Bruh no
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:59 pm
by KZA
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
lol we always policy a claimed 3P in closed setup
how tf are people arguing this
We don't want a boring day
I'll take the mechanically correct day personally
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:00 pm
by lost monkey
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:34 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm
Town: Esooa, Herm, Ender, KZA and Creature
Ez.
Also dare I mention KZA went from Null Lean Scum to High Town real quick.
Shows that if I have any town in my scum reads they can get out just like KZA.
This is pretty wolfy. He's laid out intentionally a read shift, so as to give proof that he does have read shifts. This is unnecessary, especially since he's claimed a PR. Hard oversell
He played the exact same way in elder scrolls and went after the people who he thought were scum the exact same way So why do you have him as scum here?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:01 pm
by Duskfall
We will have MORE INFO tomorrow therefore we can make a better and MORE INFORMED decision on who to vote after killing the 3p
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:03 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:54 pm
Can we get that guy in this game please
Asking for a friend
Yes plz
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:05 pm
by Duskfall
Seth/glav is like one of those players who is eternal lhf, he plays the game like what he says will always be correct and why his reads don't exist doesn't matter to him.
If he decides to flip his read he will believe that is true, because he convinces himself everything he says is accurate because he said it. He doesn't work off his reads being good because he has good logic or reasoning etc. He believes his reads are good because he is good, which means that his reasoning will always crumble and he will fail to make any sort of sense as town, you can't follow his logic like most players who are trying to find what is correct because he skips the whole finding part and goes straight to "I'm correct".
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:08 pm
by Wiml
Thanks!
I skimmed the first page of all of the games you linked and I think the quality of your entrances varies a lot between them. Some you entered and were immediately solvey off the bat and a couple (Spiderman in particular) weren't great either so I'm considering that this might not be AI for you after all?
When you said earlier that I wasn't aware of your meta, were you insinuating that you don't have these sort of entrances as a wolf or just that it's NAI for you?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:10 pm
by Wiml
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
Well I'd say odds are good there's at least 1 wolf on HKs wagon
Jesus that wagon is horrible
Agree. Noticed earlier but since I really doubt HK is a wolf I don't think the wagon formation matters.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:11 pm
by Wiml
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:05 pm
Seth/glav is like one of those players who is eternal lhf, he plays the game like what he says will always be correct and why his reads don't exist doesn't matter to him.
If he decides to flip his read he will believe that is true, because he convinces himself everything he says is accurate because he said it. He doesn't work off his reads being good because he has good logic or reasoning etc. He believes his reads are good because he is good, which means that his reasoning will always crumble and he will fail to make any sort of sense as town, you can't follow his logic like most players who are trying to find what is correct because he skips the whole finding part and goes straight to "I'm correct".
I think the slot was just super obvious town.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:12 pm
by Duskfall
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:11 pm
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:05 pm
Seth/glav is like one of those players who is eternal lhf, he plays the game like what he says will always be correct and why his reads don't exist doesn't matter to him.
If he decides to flip his read he will believe that is true, because he convinces himself everything he says is accurate because he said it. He doesn't work off his reads being good because he has good logic or reasoning etc. He believes his reads are good because he is good, which means that his reasoning will always crumble and he will fail to make any sort of sense as town, you can't follow his logic like most players who are trying to find what is correct because he skips the whole finding part and goes straight to "I'm correct".
I think the slot was just super obvious town.
It was but my point still stands about glav saying he will flip any person's read is not scum indicative for him
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:12 pm
by Wiml
Dusk, has your read on Esooa's slot changed si ce the events involving Gavial?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:16 pm
by Duskfall
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:12 pm
Dusk, has your read on Esooa's slot changed si ce the events involving Gavial?
Nothing has happened to make me want to change, I think esooas reaction to me is one I see frequently among new communities where it's like "I don't really care what the new guy thinks" because he feels like my read is less relevant when others call him towny, which is fair assessment my read probably matters less. But in my experience ive found people treat me more like that when they are mafia than when they are town.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:17 pm
by Creature
What are we even doing?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:17 pm
by Duskfall
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:17 pm
What are we even doing?
Killing hk
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:19 pm
by falcon45ca
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:59 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
lol we always policy a claimed 3P in closed setup
how tf are people arguing this
We don't want a boring day
I'll take the mechanically correct day personally
Yeah, but where's the excitement?
VK HK, lynch someone else
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:22 pm
by Creature
Bah can't handle this day anymore
[VOTE:
hollowkatt] aubergine
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:24 pm
by falcon45ca
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:34 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm
Town: Esooa, Herm, Ender, KZA and Creature
Ez.
Also dare I mention KZA went from Null Lean Scum to High Town real quick.
Shows that if I have any town in my scum reads they can get out just like KZA.
This is pretty wolfy. He's laid out intentionally a read shift, so as to give proof that he does have read shifts. This is unnecessary, especially since he's claimed a PR. Hard oversell
He played the exact same way in elder scrolls and went after the people who he thought were scum the exact same way So why do you have him as scum here?
That's interesting, cuz the post you quoted has to do with how he's town solving, and has nothing to do with his scum hunting at all.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:25 pm
by falcon45ca
That's actually a pretty good chant:
VK HK, Lynch Someone Else! VK HK, Lynch Someone Else!
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:27 pm
by Creature
Not sure we can count on there being a vigilante?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:28 pm
by lost monkey
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:24 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:34 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm
Town: Esooa, Herm, Ender, KZA and Creature
Ez.
Also dare I mention KZA went from Null Lean Scum to High Town real quick.
Shows that if I have any town in my scum reads they can get out just like KZA.
This is pretty wolfy. He's laid out intentionally a read shift, so as to give proof that he does have read shifts. This is unnecessary, especially since he's claimed a PR. Hard oversell
He played the exact same way in elder scrolls and went after the people who he thought were scum the exact same way So why do you have him as scum here?
That's interesting, cuz the post you quoted has to do with how he's town solving, and has nothing to do with his scum hunting at all.
His general play not that post alone, you were acting like you haven't seen town gavial do stuff like this before and pretty much shading him since people didn't like his play.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 pm
by lost monkey
Falcon I feel Is playing the exact same way he played in elder scrolls. @Timsup2nothin @Alison
What do you both think?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:32 pm
by Wiml
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:16 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:12 pm
Dusk, has your read on Esooa's slot changed si ce the events involving Gavial?
Nothing has happened to make me want to change, I think esooas reaction to me is one I see frequently among new communities where it's like "I don't really care what the new guy thinks" because he feels like my read is less relevant when others call him towny, which is fair assessment my read probably matters less. But in my experience ive found people treat me more like that when they are mafia than when they are town.
Thanks. I think Esooa is town but I at least understand what you're saying here.
Outside of Esooa/Tim, who are your strongest reads either way currently?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:33 pm
by Wiml
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 pm
Falcon I feel Is playing the exact same way he played in elder scrolls. @Timsup2nothin @Alison
What do you both think?
To clarify: was falcon a wolf in this game?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:35 pm
by KZA
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:08 pm
Thanks!
I skimmed the first page of all of the games you linked and I think the quality of your entrances varies a lot between them. Some you entered and were immediately solvey off the bat and a couple (Spiderman in particular) weren't great either so I'm considering that this might not be AI for you after all?
When you said earlier that I wasn't aware of your meta, were you insinuating that you don't have these sort of entrances as a wolf or just that it's NAI for you?
I would consider it NAI, I can be pretty inconsistent.
I'm not great at evaluating my own meta but others have said I lack presence and kind of do my own thing in most cases. I'm also kind of silly as a player so sometimes I get scumread for being too serious.
Hope this helps.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:19 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:59 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
lol we always policy a claimed 3P in closed setup
how tf are people arguing this
We don't want a boring day
I'll take the mechanically correct day personally
Yeah, but where's the excitement?
VK HK, lynch someone else
uhhh if there is a vig?
don't answer that
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:35 pm
by lost monkey
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:33 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 pm
Falcon I feel Is playing the exact same way he played in elder scrolls. @Timsup2nothin @Alison
What do you both think?
To clarify: was falcon a wolf in this game?
Yeah and j was wolf with him.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:36 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:16 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:12 pm
Dusk, has your read on Esooa's slot changed si ce the events involving Gavial?
Nothing has happened to make me want to change, I think esooas reaction to me is one I see frequently among new communities where it's like "I don't really care what the new guy thinks" because he feels like my read is less relevant when others call him towny, which is fair assessment my read probably matters less. But in my experience ive found people treat me more like that when they are mafia than when they are town.
Esooa is a she fwiw
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:37 pm
by Wiml
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:35 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:08 pm
Thanks!
I skimmed the first page of all of the games you linked and I think the quality of your entrances varies a lot between them. Some you entered and were immediately solvey off the bat and a couple (Spiderman in particular) weren't great either so I'm considering that this might not be AI for you after all?
When you said earlier that I wasn't aware of your meta, were you insinuating that you don't have these sort of entrances as a wolf or just that it's NAI for you?
I would consider it NAI, I can be pretty inconsistent.
I'm not great at evaluating my own meta but others have said I lack presence and kind of do my own thing in most cases. I'm also kind of silly as a player so sometimes I get scumread for being too serious.
Hope this helps.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:19 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:59 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:32 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:31 pm
lol we always policy a claimed 3P in closed setup
how tf are people arguing this
We don't want a boring day
I'll take the mechanically correct day personally
Yeah, but where's the excitement?
VK HK, lynch someone else
uhhh if there is a vig?
don't answer that
Alright thanks!
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:38 pm
by Wiml
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:35 pm
Wiml wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:33 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 pm
Falcon I feel Is playing the exact same way he played in elder scrolls. @Timsup2nothin @Alison
What do you both think?
To clarify: was falcon a wolf in this game?
Yeah and j was wolf with him.
Thanks, would you be able to talk me through why?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:38 pm
by Herm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
Well I'd say odds are good there's at least 1 wolf on HKs wagon
Jesus that wagon is horrible
HK voting himself as well.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:41 pm
by Herm
If Falcon is scum they jumped the gun with that villager claim for reasons?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
by Wiml
Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:41 pm
If Falcon is scum they jumped the gun with that villager claim for reasons?
I agree with this but weren't you scumreading falcon?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
by falcon45ca
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:30 pm
Falcon I feel Is playing the exact same way he played in elder scrolls. @Timsup2nothin @Alison
What do you both think?
Why don't you vote for me, instead of trying to call in backup?
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:45 pm
by Creature
Herm wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:38 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:29 pm
Well I'd say odds are good there's at least 1 wolf on HKs wagon
Jesus that wagon is horrible
HK voting himself as well.
Guess we can't ask for a better wagon when it's pretty much a policy lynch.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:49 pm
by falcon45ca
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:28 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:24 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:00 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:34 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:14 pm
Town: Esooa, Herm, Ender, KZA and Creature
Ez.
Also dare I mention KZA went from Null Lean Scum to High Town real quick.
Shows that if I have any town in my scum reads they can get out just like KZA.
This is pretty wolfy. He's laid out intentionally a read shift, so as to give proof that he does have read shifts. This is unnecessary, especially since he's claimed a PR. Hard oversell
He played the exact same way in elder scrolls and went after the people who he thought were scum the exact same way So why do you have him as scum here?
That's interesting, cuz the post you quoted has to do with how he's town solving, and has nothing to do with his scum hunting at all.
His general play not that post alone, you were acting like you haven't seen town gavial do stuff like this before and pretty much shading him since people didn't like his play.
This just shows you haven't gone thru my posts properly, as I mention those elements of Gav's game.
I called Gav out for very specific reasons, and not cuz others didn't like his play. You're putting as much thought into reading me as you are into your other reads you've posted.
Re: Bird Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:52 pm
by Alison
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:40 am
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:48 am
I'm prepared to trust Wiml's shield on Wurzel for a bit and pursue other suspects. I expect regular progress reports on Wurzel's alignment.
Why is that?
cos i think wiml is town and he's saying he knows wurzel and can read him well