Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]
Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:30 am
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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After SPF. I already know my LC thoughts which was that he had one good point, probably good enough for today, and that was his SPF push. The rest of what he's been doing is just posting reads lists with no other words so shrug, I don't remember how he treated Wilgy either though
Towny
You were literally just strong townreading her.
yea yea yea I know, talking about reads is criminal. Lucky for you I'm moving on to SPF
You're an easy one queen, get in to an omgus fight like this, pull up a few more posts that I can call wolfy, fight back and forth, but you don't care about talking about things so who yells loudest, talks smoothest wins... I can do both of those
Think this is towny mostly because it's accurate thoughts to the game state at the time, at least as I saw it. Lots of doing not much, stuff like Dizzy saying "zomg everyone's so towny." True I suppose, but still, the feeling was that nothing was being done that mattered and SPF was just like "This doesn't really matter" lolstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:32 pm tbh im reading through the game right now and barely any posts are coming off as alignment indicative
im not sure if it's just a me thing or if people just arent really alignment telling
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:38 amyeah well now I'm not
I had the same thought about LC. She posted later it's not scummy to have think it's weird he's doing stuff as he does them always, while saying he's going to not do it as much. I agree with that and had the same thought, and I think slightly that having a natural game-to-game progression like this is more likely as town, where rather as a wolf you'd probably see something rehashed previously. Coming up with new thoughts is harder as a wolf and you recycle the old stuff kinda thing. The more important thing here probably is just that I think it's towny she posted thoughts I found agreeable about things she cared about, in that I don't really think she's trying to make things up to try and look more solvy or towny, like a wolfstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:33 pmthis is probably the closest thing i got to a ping, because i felt like lime coke was talking to alexa in this post like he already knew that she was town. i know that LC tends to be pretty trusting of alexa regardless of her alignment, but i would expect his attitude toward her at the beginning of the game to be a little bit more cynical/suspiciousLime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:07 amIt was just copy/pasta I decided to use.alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:04 am ok there's a chance this is an awful read but brad increasing the font size and bolding a line he previously wrote as mafia to say jokingly that he's town here may be town indicative
i don't really care about this that much because i'll prob have a solid read on him outside of microtells by EOD anyway but
vibes
You know how to read me anyways so you'll find me town for other reasons that are correct.
I feel like this sort of interaction is loosely non-w/w with Alexa, when it does happen as w/w I typically see it in super big games as a delibrate scum circlejerk (ex: Hydra Mash D1 where I townread like 3 scum with the reasoning of "there's no way this is all wolves just circlejerking togehter right?")
ok
ok yeah sure I'll just call Alexa town waynaut
can this cat be any more town?
I feel like this type of clarification on a scum slot is something that is unlikely to come from w/w, ignoring the fact that Esooa is raising Wilgy for bad reasons. You aren't aimming to change minds but you're raising him in your reads list when you already have room enough to not vote him when it comes to it rn. It's pretty unproductive for her interests if w and just calls attention to her
idk what Alexa did later in day, but I feel like if she's wolf she decided to just bus Wilgy super early and idk if that's in her meta or not but yeah I just see Alexa town posts here. Maybe she could have expected Wilgy to have better posts later and planned to retract that but the fact that the wagon wasn't even close is enough to make me think that isn't the world
eh I don't like this when I know that Wilgy was w. i think why is obvious
He...had no posts?
I kinda don't think that Wilgy questions a townread on him and his teammate as much as he does him and a townie but idk
lol Esooa
ok I take back that one thing I said about Dizzy but the Mac sus I think sucks stillEsooa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:28 pm I don't know if Dizzy is all that wolfy, but I was pinged by the fact that this game they are seemingly here and participatory more than in other town games I've seen from them, while trying to say that they will be ML bait this game. I'd figure a towny posting and doing more things than how I remember them, would be less inclined to think that, while a wolf trying to post what they do as town would
very relatablestaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:32 pm tbh im reading through the game right now and barely any posts are coming off as alignment indicative
im not sure if it's just a me thing or if people just arent really alignment telling
I have no idea why you're doing this and kinda want more tbh
I don't feel like he had a sense of what he was doing tbhGira wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:59 pm1. i don't care if someone is explaining their reads early or not and there is at least some sense what he is doing is being prompted by events in the thread. having ~some sense of how he plays it's towny enough
2. second part is a deflection, i chastised you specifically for calling her villagery off a very limited number of posts and you have broadened the scope to talking about her content in general rather than addressing the idea that you were calling someone town off content that was not particularly AI
The townreads are good at least
tbh I want to townread Lime Coke for townreading 4 people who are town + Esooa who I do think can be town
super weak but maybe not w/w
Ok but that doesn't let me know how many posts I have this phase cuz it got lifted. But thank you!MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:39 am https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=100
this page
HiDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
See, it is not hard to change minds, I didn't even do anything deserving of this, because probably Alexa and LC have played more towny than meMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
Lmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
I know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
nah I think you're by far the most obvtown from the first 500 while Illario just had some good looks that didn't really stand out to me that muchalexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amLmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
Am I that iconic
I didn't speak to timings.Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amI know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
This read, especially while saying she's tired and struggled to explain it more, which would be very coy if wolfing, is towny imo. I think making this kinda read based on the more difficult to ascertain tone of a post comes from paying genuine attention to the poststaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:02 pmi think it's mostly because the explanation in this post is a little sloppy/thrown together whereas i recall that dizzy's posts in the wolfgames ive seen from him are a lot Fancier and well-thought out, particularly if he's being interrogated by another personstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:01 pmokay i changed my mind, i think that you might be town now but im struggling to explain why i find this post towny because i am also unenthused and my brain is tiredDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:57 pmIf it's any consolation, I've already tossed those reads out, and I agree that things have been bland.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:52 pmi tend to be suspicious of people with perspectives that i can't understand. i felt frustrated reading the first 2 pages because of how bland and NAI everything was coming off to me, and you making a post with 4 townreads in such a null threadstate felt like a potential indication that the reason youre not struggling to make reads is because you have TMI
When Alison pushed Gira, I had half a thought that she did it on purpose to pressure Gira specifically, because Gira is pressure-able (cross referenced in my mind with a different game). And if Alison did that on purpose, it's towny for her. But I'm less convinced it was strategic, and probably just a genuine push. I mean, could be both of course. But why am I even making assumptions about it.
Explaining my thoughts are kind of blah right now, cause I don't feel all that enthused tbh, so it's a lot of maybe this maybe that.
Hi nanookNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:44 amHiDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
Too bad you weren't here yesterday then when I wasn't obvtown to most peopleDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:46 amnah I think you're by far the most obvtown from the first 500 while Illario just had some good looks that didn't really stand out to me that muchalexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amLmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
Am I that iconic
also I'm definitely serious... what makes you think otherwise?Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amI know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
Honestly this is kinda hilarious because I do think it's a huge brain move to town read your partner for being more towny as a wolf in the town game you're mistaking as a wolf game. That is crazy to do as a wolf. I dunno if I want to read into this though lolstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:02 pmi think it's mostly because the explanation in this post is a little sloppy/thrown together whereas i recall that dizzy's posts in the wolfgames ive seen from him are a lot Fancier and well-thought out, particularly if he's being interrogated by another personstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:01 pmokay i changed my mind, i think that you might be town now but im struggling to explain why i find this post towny because i am also unenthused and my brain is tiredDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:57 pmIf it's any consolation, I've already tossed those reads out, and I agree that things have been bland.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:52 pmi tend to be suspicious of people with perspectives that i can't understand. i felt frustrated reading the first 2 pages because of how bland and NAI everything was coming off to me, and you making a post with 4 townreads in such a null threadstate felt like a potential indication that the reason youre not struggling to make reads is because you have TMI
When Alison pushed Gira, I had half a thought that she did it on purpose to pressure Gira specifically, because Gira is pressure-able (cross referenced in my mind with a different game). And if Alison did that on purpose, it's towny for her. But I'm less convinced it was strategic, and probably just a genuine push. I mean, could be both of course. But why am I even making assumptions about it.
Explaining my thoughts are kind of blah right now, cause I don't feel all that enthused tbh, so it's a lot of maybe this maybe that.
basically what I'm saying isMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:47 amI didn't speak to timings.Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amI know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
yeah too bad ... we might have chopped a mafiaalexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:47 amToo bad you weren't here yesterday then when I wasn't obvtown to most peopleDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:46 amnah I think you're by far the most obvtown from the first 500 while Illario just had some good looks that didn't really stand out to me that muchalexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amLmfao how is it weird I'm alive on d2Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
Am I that iconic
I should be your top townreadDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:47 amHi nanookNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:44 amHiDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am I think my confident reads are Alexa, Mac, and LC are likely town, I was feeling badish about Gira but then I felt that Wilgy didn't interact with them like a teammate at one point and am not feeling best about dizzy and esooa
also kinda weird that Alexa is still alive but w/e
thats literally what I'm sayingDolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:48 ambasically what I'm saying isMacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:47 amI didn't speak to timings.Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:45 amI know this isn't serious but I feel obligated to say that this doesn't match the timeline of Alexa's starting scumread of Wilgy relative to when you and Nanook did but I haven't read past 500MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
I feel like Alexa kinda trapped herself on Wilgy before you two made Wilgy always going to be a top 2 wagon about EoD
It’s literally notMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:43 pm also think gira and falcon are town
goes without saying nanook, Lime Coke are town
alexa is just an f3 tinfoil
it's literally just esooa and fingersplints
How serious is this read?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:43 am Here's the rub
Alexa, Lime Coke and Wilgy rand mafia together.
Alexa and Lime Coke have to townread each other cuz if they distance everyone would just sheep. Lime Coke would auto die if Alexa didn't just townlock him.
Poor third wheel Wilgy plays the role of their distancing punching bag as a result. Nanook and Mac read Wilgy mafia for obscure reasons and trap his teammates on the wagon. Alexa tries to flip someone else late in the day but thinks better of it. Lime Coke doesn't have the game to be able to make moves from that spot so he just hard buries Wilgy.
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:43 pmno, i just assumed that he would be more naturally paranoid of alexa in this game cause of how much of a big deal people have made about him getting pocketed by her in the past, which is why a post that came off as trustful of alexa on page 1 felt off to meilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:33 pmWhy though? Have you ever seen him be cynical/sus early on towards her?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:33 pmthis is probably the closest thing i got to a ping, because i felt like lime coke was talking to alexa in this post like he already knew that she was town. i know that LC tends to be pretty trusting of alexa regardless of her alignment, but i would expect his attitude toward her at the beginning of the game to be a little bit more cynical/suspiciousLime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:07 amIt was just copy/pasta I decided to use.alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:04 am ok there's a chance this is an awful read but brad increasing the font size and bolding a line he previously wrote as mafia to say jokingly that he's town here may be town indicative
i don't really care about this that much because i'll prob have a solid read on him outside of microtells by EOD anyway but
vibes
You know how to read me anyways so you'll find me town for other reasons that are correct.
Talked about the LC one before, but the one on me too I think is a valid thing to think even if not entirely accurate. Looks like a moving view of the world, coming up with things about the game.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:44 pmi feel like you are trying to project towniness harder than the recent towngames ive seen from you, and the post that u made about me when i first started posting felt a little pockety so im voting u and seeing what happens