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Do you prefer drip, french press, or percolated?

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alexa (467)
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Gira (330)
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:41 am I think at the least Finger is mafia.

Wilgy was voting Alexa for a good long while during EOD, he had the Finger wagon and Gira wagon, and talked specifically about the Finger wagon before finally trying to self-pres onto Finger.

Just full hesitation before realizing he needed to cut his losses and try to bus someone that isn't there.
Prolly yeah

Finger also had a like weak bad reason to town lean Wilgy but didn't talk about them at all outside of that or anything in a way that felt very easily partnered
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This may be a bad read but like, Esooa feels too overtly salty in the thread to me to be W/W with Wilgy, and like the fact that she was reading me in this way (as me not doing Obv Wolf stuff as wolf) makes me feel like she'd be aware of that kind of stuff as wolf herself so that the logic does actually apply to her

I also kinda gut townread her tone/emotions behind it anyways
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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ESOOA IS SO OBVIOUS town
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Anyways Gn I'm hoping to be on later tomorrow merry Christmas
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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lol maybe Alexa is a wolf
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oh she just town read me I take that back (I didn't even read those posts at the time but now I don't want her to wolf read me so I never made my last post )
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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alexa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:50 am This may be a bad read but like, Esooa feels too overtly salty in the thread to me to be W/W with Wilgy, and like the fact that she was reading me in this way (as me not doing Obv Wolf stuff as wolf) makes me feel like she'd be aware of that kind of stuff as wolf herself so that the logic does actually apply to her

I also kinda gut townread her tone/emotions behind it anyways
well hydra season is super bad and I've been exhausted and was going to play zero more games for a bit but then was like eh I'll play coffee now it's also bad so I am salty as either alignment tbh and very easily for the same reasons as both
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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I debated explaining my Alexa wolf read before remising about posts already made irt reading Alexa's Alignment and now I am over it again
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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should prob just close the thread
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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or I can bounce so you don't feel irritated by my existence
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:59 am or I can bounce so you don't feel irritated by my existence
it's not you tbh I'm just personally insulted when you call me obvious wolf because you're supposed to be on my side in the simp wars but you wolf read people you respect instead of town read them so I cri
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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idk what you do but you certainly have a disposition towards pushing me as more wolfy
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:56 am
alexa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:50 am This may be a bad read but like, Esooa feels too overtly salty in the thread to me to be W/W with Wilgy, and like the fact that she was reading me in this way (as me not doing Obv Wolf stuff as wolf) makes me feel like she'd be aware of that kind of stuff as wolf herself so that the logic does actually apply to her

I also kinda gut townread her tone/emotions behind it anyways
well hydra season is super bad and I've been exhausted and was going to play zero more games for a bit but then was like eh I'll play coffee now it's also bad so I am salty as either alignment tbh and very easily for the same reasons as both
Didn't get a chance to hydra with me where we could both just complain and talk shit about everyone. 👀
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I've played games where I play straight forward and explain all my thoughts and reads as they're relevant, and really all it does it get people wolf read. Being not wolf read is about playing the crowd, as either alignment. It's just boring and stupid and the fact that my experience is that the easiest way to play as either town or wolf is just post things people will like rather than thoughts about the game is extremely jading because I am here to talk about things (which is mafia) not put on an extremely easy to manipulate show to get sway
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:54 am lol maybe Alexa is a wolf
What? How?
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:00 am idk what you do but you certainly have a disposition towards pushing me as more wolfy
I don't like townreading people who can carry a wolf team in a game of good players let alone someone whose wolfrange is vast.

And you empirically wolfsided day 1. I'd be going against my principles to townread you. If I townread you here it'd be only because I was mafia tbh.
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I buried the fuck out of Wilgy
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:05 am I've played games where I play straight forward and explain all my thoughts and reads as they're relevant, and really all it does it get people wolf read. Being not wolf read is about playing the crowd, as either alignment. It's just boring and stupid and the fact that my experience is that the easiest way to play as either town or wolf is just post things people will like rather than thoughts about the game is extremely jading because I am here to talk about things (which is mafia) not put on an extremely easy to manipulate show to get sway
You could always just play the game the way you want to play it and see where it goes. If town punishes itself while you are doing the right thing that's not on you.
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Mac is blatantly obvious town btw if anyone was wondering his role card may as well be out
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The thing is if the mafia are in the poe of people I think they are in the only one who might win from here is SPF. Splints is going to probably die today and probably flip wolf. Esooa might live to f5 at most. If SPF is mafia she will make f3. Gira and Falcon will die before her as long as I'm dead and probably before Esooa too.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]

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Fingersplits post
fingersplints wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:15 pm @fingersplints Towniest and most suss reads? What do you have so far?
My top town reads are Esooa and Falcon.
I think I’m liking Alison too but less than these two

Dr Wilgy reminding me of a previous town game, but I don’t remember wolf style and I feel like their playstyle could easily mask some ‘wolfiness’. Don’t plan on voting there for now anyways

I struggle with day 1 suspicions always. I think Alexa looks worst atm followed by illario but these aren’t strong suspicions
I didn't like this, said I didn't, at first because her reads felt stale. I didn't know what to make of it because they're... the same things she had posted since last time she was in thread, and so having the same thoughts is like fine, maybe even good, but it just felt like there was no thinking about stuff going on between this post and Fingers last appearance in thread. It wasn't something I was holding onto very strongly so Alexa
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:04 pm on review, fingersplints sounds really forced in fargo mafia (as mafia) compared to this game actually

i'm not really sure who i want to vote
Posts this, and I think it's a valid thought and though I don't really want to check Fingers meta myself, it seems congruous with what I'd expect. I don't know if I've looked at Fingers meta before, don't think I've seen her wolf game, but that's what I got from this, prompting me to post "I've decided, Finger is town"
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]

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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm Ok so, i have 2 different interpretations of recent posts and it ~~~depends on if Wilgy is a wolf or not. I just like don’t want to condence it because I had sparks of “this is meaningful” with both (some things are c/p’d with both but i’ve been bored and rring recent posts and considering both lights)


Notes #1:

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good.

>#926 “somewhat disappointed if you're town" to spf is kinda towny from Gira

>#930 yes Nanook does bus, the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners


Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?

God There is such a sick part of me tempted to fake a FOS on Gira so that he townreads me regardless of his alignment as he seems to consistently be doing this but lol, i think his recent posting is >rand V

BUT IM ALSO THINKING OF A W/W CONNECTION BETWEEN GIRA/WILGY SO NOW I’M RECONSIDERING IT LMAO




Notes #2 (Confbias lens of Gira/Wilgy W/W):

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad (still important)

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)

>It feels like Gira is avoiding Wilgy to me in a way I feel could be W/W. like, he mentioned a lame townread on Wilgy early for no reason, then has not talked about it since or provided anything IRT a read since.

>#930 yes, Mac, Nanook does bus??? the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners



Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?



#966 ehhh this may not be S/S with wilgy though



But, @Gira Why me wolf if Wilgy town over other people townreading Wilgy like Esooa and Alison?
Random Alexa thoughts from perusing through posts as you do

This post read really weirdly to me and I especialyl don't get the two catchup posts thing. Just a weird post imo
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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Dolby also will die before SPF here if I'm dead before SPF.

The only slots I will lose to here are Alexa, Nanook and LC and if I'm in f3 with any of them I'll be voting them most likely.
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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:20 pm i've literally had 100% correct reads like my past 4-5 games or something and people still think im a shit player and don't listen to my reads, i'm sorry if this sounds overly salty but it just makes me emotional, i think i had good things against Wilgy
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:27 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:53 pm
ilario wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:50 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:25 pm
Esooa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm nanook is outed mafia he's pushing towny wilgy who is an easy person to kill because he realizes that he flew too close to the sun with doing literally nothing this day that is useful as a wolf and now needs an out which is Wilgy easy push
Eh... Idk I don't think wolf nook pushes for me when they could've just as easily pushed Mac or FS.

I still think wolf nook resolves later.
@DrWilgy why do you think wolf book would avoid pushing u over mac or fs
When I flip, I could see alot more pressure coming out of it than the other two. I don't think W nook fights this fight just to get flipped d3.

If he latched onto Mac earlier or FS and they do go over, I think there'd be alot more shrugging and moving on.
wtf does this mean?
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:30 pm
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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm >Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)
Alright, bullshit again, how is that scummy when we had the entirety of pre 150 to discuss? you state yourself that I spoke about the scumread prior so it's not a magical thing that came out of 'oh alexa is at 150 that'll be a good place to vote.'

Also, what makes that wolfy? do you think my malicious plan was to vote you at 150 and push for you in hoping that you just wouldn't show up in the last hour?
why would you not vote me earlier then suddenly vote me after i'm capped and a legit wagon option?
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:36 pm i have wilgy's iso open and i still want to kill him, he feels extremely different, and i've read him accurately as town before
Alexa posts after the cap are aggressive in terms of Wilgy's alignment, pushing him a lot whatever
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 2]

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I'll be dying night 2 most of the time so if you want to pick my brain for reads or anything today's probably your last chance.
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Alexa, Mac, and Esooa are all town.

Now you 3 get along. 🙂
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Like the only world I survive tonight in is Nanook wolf worlds.
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Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:15 am Alexa, Mac, and Esooa are all town.

Now you 3 get along. 🙂
I'm not townreading Esooa for being frustrated at the game. That's literally exactly how she would be as wolf.

If she buries a wolf today we can talk but she's in my poe pending said outcome.
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:16 am
Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:15 am Alexa, Mac, and Esooa are all town.

Now you 3 get along. 🙂
I'm not townreading Esooa for being frustrated at the game. That's literally exactly how she would be as wolf.

If she buries a wolf today we can talk but she's in my poe pending said outcome.
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I would add that if we hit mafia today the chance of someone else dying goes up because the game will become less about killing the towniest problems and more about killing who benefits the last wolf the most and that becomes less predictable.

If the wolves get a green chop tho I'm dead.
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Re: Coffia (Coffee Mafia) [DAY 1]

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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.
so it's literally just OMGUS?
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:37 pm
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.
so it's literally just OMGUS?
I'd say it's more so noticing inconsistencies.

Gira pointed one out as well that makes sense. It's almost as if you are pick and choosing your reads.
what inconsistencies? and do you think being consistent = a villager?

the thing with gira admittedly had to do with my own personal bias
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:49 pm
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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm what do you mean irt falcon? idk anything about falcon's ranges, only that TSP said falcon is more inclined to push people as town
Ok, and what are my ranges then?

Falcon has several unexplained call outs and votes, but is town leaned by you? unless you specifically had an issue with my dizzy read, I don't understand it.
idk your ranges much either

ehhhh i have enough other townreads that idk if i'd call him a town lean, but falcon's posts are direct responses to things that i can easily follow, to me it just felt like you were throwing shit out and seeing what would stick. i acknowledge you're explaining some stuff now, so i'm going to take a look, but falcon's stuff just felt generally less performative to me
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ilario wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:33 am Fwiw dizzy in regards to ur w/w tinfoil: because I think that’s a very reasonable thought to have since I don’t think W!alexa would ever say that to T!mac, so yeah imo if alexa is a wolf then I would almost always consider mac a wolf too after her flip so I like that you considered that and had that thought. That being said I think alexa is most likely just town and that comment came out during a moment of frustration
This could be. But I still think Mac is definitely in his scum range, and I haven't seen any town pointers from him yet.

Kind of surprised you have a confident read on me, but maybe that's just the stage of our relationship now lol
And then you go and post this. Idk. Maybe I'm just bad at reading you.
this is kinda towny though
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:54 pm Wilgy's recent posts where he actually explains reads are better i think
posts before it feel pretty limp, just questioning, then goes "this could be towny"

Later vote is just sheeping

So anyways, reading Alexa's ISO I was primarily confused with the post where she laments something about people not listening to her reads. Like, the main people pushing Wilgy... weren't her? And she also sheeped onto Wilgy before writing a bit more, though even that sparse imo, so the post about people disregarding her reads felt out of place in her ISO, and it felt like it would've come at the time Alexa decided to cut Wilgy loose and bus him rather than do the typical wolf things of limp questions and maybe a passive town read thrown out etc
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There's supposed to be a trademark sign after that but it didn't appear. 🙁
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but that's just from a brief look but may as well post it because posting to get town read is easy
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Lime Coke wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:19 am There's supposed to be a trademark sign after that but it didn't appear. 🙁
it did for me
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:13 am
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm Ok so, i have 2 different interpretations of recent posts and it ~~~depends on if Wilgy is a wolf or not. I just like don’t want to condence it because I had sparks of “this is meaningful” with both (some things are c/p’d with both but i’ve been bored and rring recent posts and considering both lights)


Notes #1:

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good.

>#926 “somewhat disappointed if you're town" to spf is kinda towny from Gira

>#930 yes Nanook does bus, the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners


Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?

God There is such a sick part of me tempted to fake a FOS on Gira so that he townreads me regardless of his alignment as he seems to consistently be doing this but lol, i think his recent posting is >rand V

BUT IM ALSO THINKING OF A W/W CONNECTION BETWEEN GIRA/WILGY SO NOW I’M RECONSIDERING IT LMAO




Notes #2 (Confbias lens of Gira/Wilgy W/W):

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad (still important)

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)

>It feels like Gira is avoiding Wilgy to me in a way I feel could be W/W. like, he mentioned a lame townread on Wilgy early for no reason, then has not talked about it since or provided anything IRT a read since.

>#930 yes, Mac, Nanook does bus??? the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners



Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?



#966 ehhh this may not be S/S with wilgy though



But, @Gira Why me wolf if Wilgy town over other people townreading Wilgy like Esooa and Alison?
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This post read really weirdly to me and I especialyl don't get the two catchup posts thing. Just a weird post imo
I wanted to post all my stream-of-conscious thoughts on everything to see if anyone agreed with anything, didn't feel like condensing

What is weird?
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:20 am
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it did for me
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ftr I don't care to solve Finger until like last because if they're town idc and if they're wolf then idc either because people are gonna be mad and wanna kill me more even if I push them today because they'll go "Esooa busses Finger look at their posts" so it doesn't do anything for me
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:19 am but that's just from a brief look but may as well post it because posting to get town read is easy
I appreciate it. I read it. It should be acknowledged in the event of Alexa not self resolving and you flipping green or getting townier. Do you think Alexa had equity with Fingersplints?
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alexa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:20 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:13 am
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm Ok so, i have 2 different interpretations of recent posts and it ~~~depends on if Wilgy is a wolf or not. I just like don’t want to condence it because I had sparks of “this is meaningful” with both (some things are c/p’d with both but i’ve been bored and rring recent posts and considering both lights)


Notes #1:

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good.

>#926 “somewhat disappointed if you're town" to spf is kinda towny from Gira

>#930 yes Nanook does bus, the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners


Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?

God There is such a sick part of me tempted to fake a FOS on Gira so that he townreads me regardless of his alignment as he seems to consistently be doing this but lol, i think his recent posting is >rand V

BUT IM ALSO THINKING OF A W/W CONNECTION BETWEEN GIRA/WILGY SO NOW I’M RECONSIDERING IT LMAO




Notes #2 (Confbias lens of Gira/Wilgy W/W):

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad (still important)

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)

>It feels like Gira is avoiding Wilgy to me in a way I feel could be W/W. like, he mentioned a lame townread on Wilgy early for no reason, then has not talked about it since or provided anything IRT a read since.

>#930 yes, Mac, Nanook does bus??? the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners



Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?



#966 ehhh this may not be S/S with wilgy though



But, @Gira Why me wolf if Wilgy town over other people townreading Wilgy like Esooa and Alison?
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This post read really weirdly to me and I especialyl don't get the two catchup posts thing. Just a weird post imo
I wanted to post all my stream-of-conscious thoughts on everything to see if anyone agreed with anything, didn't feel like condensing

What is weird?
Never seen you post like that, think you could have posted it in other, easier to convey ways, this feels like too much thought was put into it and like how you posted about Eva in the team game, etc
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:19 am
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:16 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:59 pm Dissuasion lol
Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.
so it's literally just OMGUS?
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:38 pm
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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:19 pm
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DrWilgy wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:11 pm

Yeah no, I'm moving you back to null. I don't know how to read you.

Early dissuasive voice in of itself I read as Wolfy, but your following posts on Mac when you committed to the vote I was able to read in a town voice.
Ok. Do you think Mac is town here? I struggle to get any scum reads tbh
Still have him as a slight town lean.

I have a scum read on Alexa rn, I still think the earlier wolf read was BS. Especially when Falcon is just slightly out of town range? Like that didn't make sense.
so it's literally just OMGUS?
I'd say it's more so noticing inconsistencies.

Gira pointed one out as well that makes sense. It's almost as if you are pick and choosing your reads.
what inconsistencies? and do you think being consistent = a villager?

the thing with gira admittedly had to do with my own personal bias
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alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm what do you mean irt falcon? idk anything about falcon's ranges, only that TSP said falcon is more inclined to push people as town
Ok, and what are my ranges then?

Falcon has several unexplained call outs and votes, but is town leaned by you? unless you specifically had an issue with my dizzy read, I don't understand it.
idk your ranges much either

ehhhh i have enough other townreads that idk if i'd call him a town lean, but falcon's posts are direct responses to things that i can easily follow, to me it just felt like you were throwing shit out and seeing what would stick. i acknowledge you're explaining some stuff now, so i'm going to take a look, but falcon's stuff just felt generally less performative to me
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:52 pm
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ilario wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:33 am Fwiw dizzy in regards to ur w/w tinfoil: because I think that’s a very reasonable thought to have since I don’t think W!alexa would ever say that to T!mac, so yeah imo if alexa is a wolf then I would almost always consider mac a wolf too after her flip so I like that you considered that and had that thought. That being said I think alexa is most likely just town and that comment came out during a moment of frustration
This could be. But I still think Mac is definitely in his scum range, and I haven't seen any town pointers from him yet.

Kind of surprised you have a confident read on me, but maybe that's just the stage of our relationship now lol
And then you go and post this. Idk. Maybe I'm just bad at reading you.
this is kinda towny though
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:54 pm Wilgy's recent posts where he actually explains reads are better i think
posts before it feel pretty limp, just questioning, then goes "this could be towny"

Later vote is just sheeping

So anyways, reading Alexa's ISO I was primarily confused with the post where she laments something about people not listening to her reads. Like, the main people pushing Wilgy... weren't her? And she also sheeped onto Wilgy before writing a bit more, though even that sparse imo, so the post about people disregarding her reads felt out of place in her ISO, and it felt like it would've come at the time Alexa decided to cut Wilgy loose and bus him rather than do the typical wolf things of limp questions and maybe a passive town read thrown out etc
WTF do you mean? I was legit the first person to push on Wilgy lmfao. People just only listened when it was nook pushing
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:21 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:19 am but that's just from a brief look but may as well post it because posting to get town read is easy
I appreciate it. I read it. It should be acknowledged in the event of Alexa not self resolving and you flipping green or getting townier. Do you think Alexa had equity with Fingersplints?
I have no opinions on anyones w/w equity because reading into that imo isn't very accurate without a more fleshed out reading of their dynamics than I care to read into right now
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:20 am ftr I don't care to solve Finger until like last because if they're town idc and if they're wolf then idc either because people are gonna be mad and wanna kill me more even if I push them today because they'll go "Esooa busses Finger look at their posts" so it doesn't do anything for me
If you buried fingersplints and they flipped mafia it'd certainly make me reconsider you. Bussing your last living teammate on day 2 would buy you several days.

This choice gets you turbo yeeted d3 if splints flips wolf today. And Splints going over today is exceedingly likely.
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:22 am
alexa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:20 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:13 am
alexa wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:00 pm Ok so, i have 2 different interpretations of recent posts and it ~~~depends on if Wilgy is a wolf or not. I just like don’t want to condence it because I had sparks of “this is meaningful” with both (some things are c/p’d with both but i’ve been bored and rring recent posts and considering both lights)


Notes #1:

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good.

>#926 “somewhat disappointed if you're town" to spf is kinda towny from Gira

>#930 yes Nanook does bus, the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners


Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?

God There is such a sick part of me tempted to fake a FOS on Gira so that he townreads me regardless of his alignment as he seems to consistently be doing this but lol, i think his recent posting is >rand V

BUT IM ALSO THINKING OF A W/W CONNECTION BETWEEN GIRA/WILGY SO NOW I’M RECONSIDERING IT LMAO




Notes #2 (Confbias lens of Gira/Wilgy W/W):

>#915 so Gira refuses to townread women, he’s the antibrad (still important)

>Wilgy voting me after i capped is scummy AF, especially when he was talking about the scumread before that and didn’t vote me then. Also i just. Don’t think his posts are good. (still important)

>It feels like Gira is avoiding Wilgy to me in a way I feel could be W/W. like, he mentioned a lame townread on Wilgy early for no reason, then has not talked about it since or provided anything IRT a read since.

>#930 yes, Mac, Nanook does bus??? the only game i’ve played with him/seen him as wolf, he bussed both his partners



Gira: why do you feel like SPF suspecting you and pushing you is >rand town?



#966 ehhh this may not be S/S with wilgy though



But, @Gira Why me wolf if Wilgy town over other people townreading Wilgy like Esooa and Alison?
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This post read really weirdly to me and I especialyl don't get the two catchup posts thing. Just a weird post imo
I wanted to post all my stream-of-conscious thoughts on everything to see if anyone agreed with anything, didn't feel like condensing

What is weird?
Never seen you post like that, think you could have posted it in other, easier to convey ways, this feels like too much thought was put into it and like how you posted about Eva in the team game, etc
In team game I posted a terrible half assed iso on Eva that said nothing

I was just talking through 2 different trains of thought here that I had late at night, and I post like this a lot lmao
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Esooa could be a wolf actually the more I think about it
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:23 am
MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:21 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:19 am but that's just from a brief look but may as well post it because posting to get town read is easy
I appreciate it. I read it. It should be acknowledged in the event of Alexa not self resolving and you flipping green or getting townier. Do you think Alexa had equity with Fingersplints?
I have no opinions on anyones w/w equity because reading into that imo isn't very accurate without a more fleshed out reading of their dynamics than I care to read into right now
Alright then ... I'd appreciate some thorough solving of other slots. I'm interested in your reads on SPF and AlisonDolby especially.

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nothing surprising to be had this day I guess
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Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:26 am nothing surprising to be had this day I guess
nah I'm trying to solve with you let's go
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MacDougall wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:28 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:26 am nothing surprising to be had this day I guess
nah I'm trying to solve with you let's go
I'm reading posts
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Low key I'm feeling like garbage right now so I might take off from looking at the game, or at least be on for a few intervals.

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alexa wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:45 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:35 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:32 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:53 pm
Gira wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:45 pm
alexa wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:40 pm
Gira wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:36 pm

you know i was thinking on the game and this post stuck in my mind

and this is interesting word choice because you're expressing concern over "misclearing" wilgy

but like

didn't you push back when i expressed similar sentiment about people's early reads on Alison



(and also lol at expressing a concern over a misclear while defending lime coke doing what he does - not really alignment relevant, but, like, the irony)
i thought alison was being villagery, though. so to me your thing of "that is so obviously in her scum range" implied that something villagery was in her scum range so that's not a reason to townread her (which, you clarified anyways, so cool). whatever the fuck people were townreading wilgy for read as random crap that shouldn't be considered villagery in any world so "he wouldn't do that as scum" or w/e read very differently
you thought she was being villagery off 3 posts

but are worried about early townreads on wilgy (and i don't think what he's done so far is "random crap" even if it's presented in a jokey fashion - he has reads and is expressing them)

[VOTE: alexa] aubergine
wilgy hasn't explained a single read and has literally just been posting nonsense, what the heck is villagery? alison's content has been good and i've agreed with most of it
Oh no! Out of my few posts which ones do you think are purposeful reads?
why is dizzy scum?
@DrWilgy you still haven't answered this

and it's AI because one of the reasons i've found you as town in the past is the way you've explained reads
I suppose I'll be omgus'd no matter what so may as well call it as I see it, and this is super typical w/w interactions trying to make sure they're clean and all that
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