The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:50 pm**

why is chop chop voting in the host/non players selection? lol

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:51 pm**

there's 8 people if I can tell who haven't voted yet

I later will figure out who these people actually are and scum read them, so vote

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:02 pm**

does anyone know how many scum there would be with typical balancing rules? I looked at how many roles each faction has btw and

vault city 5

the USA people 9

lemme see the others

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:02 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:04 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:49 pm @DrWilgy @Marmot @reywaS

yo

Yo.

What's good homie?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:04 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:02 pm

i have zero idea what this post means but i kind of like it

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:07 pm**

I just want to say this to my fellow faction members.

"I hate Mr.House and Caesar."

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:11 pm**

what the fuck I just spent like 20 minutes figuring out stuff with how many roles are listed in each thing and how big the sizes might be then I read

- The number of roles listed under each faction has no bearing on the actual number of players within each faction with the exception of the Wastelanders and the Enclave, who each have large populations relative to the rest.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:12 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 pm As an anime connoisseur, you all have horrible taste.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:20 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:21 pm**

SpaghettiEverywhere

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:22 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 pm scum btsc is probably just filled to the brim with dumb anime gifs
Honestly, this sounds like a mafia who is talking about something actually happening in their chat.

Glad i’m not the only one who had this silly thought

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:23 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:22 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 pm scum btsc is probably just filled to the brim with dumb anime gifs
Honestly, this sounds like a mafia who is talking about something actually happening in their chat.
Glad i’m not the only one who had this silly thought

Booooooo I hate this thought, as if this is how you find scum.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:23 pm**

Ketchup is kinda overrated.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:24 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:12 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 pm As an anime connoisseur, you all have horrible taste.

Ninja scroll, nice throwback

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:24 pm**

I can't believe how the Rock skin guy died in Ninja Scroll.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm**

@Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:22 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 pm scum btsc is probably just filled to the brim with dumb anime gifs
Honestly, this sounds like a mafia who is talking about something actually happening in their chat.
Glad i’m not the only one who had this silly thought
Booooooo I hate this thought, as if this is how you find scum.

yes because there's a singular way where you can find scum, and not tons of different things

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:26 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:23 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:22 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 pm scum btsc is probably just filled to the brim with dumb anime gifs
Honestly, this sounds like a mafia who is talking about something actually happening in their chat.
Glad i’m not the only one who had this silly thought
Booooooo I hate this thought, as if this is how you find scum.
yes because there's a singular way where you can find scum, and not tons of different things

LOL there are lots of ways! Just... that's really not one of them.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:26 pm**

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 pm scum btsc is probably just filled to the brim with dumb anime gifs

You would think so but I haven’t posted all that many.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:28 pm**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:39 pm Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

This is a trip.
[VOTE: BK] aubergine

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:47 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:44 pm Speaking of, English — can you explain your chop read?
One sec lemme dig it up

This kind of grace might have gone a long way earlier.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:28 pm**

There’s this dope new anime I’m watching called Sword Art Online. Have you heard of it

@DaughterOfOmega

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:28 pm There’s this dope new anime I’m watching called Sword Art Online. Have you heard of it

@DaughterOfOmega

Please don't troll me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm**

sloonei long con esooa alison dom falcon townleans

the tier slightly below that contains c4 and martin. my read on c4 is in flux right now and i'm having trouble nailing down a solid stance tbh

actively worried about jackofhearts, boknows, urist, rej

everyone else is w/e

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:22 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:28 pm scum btsc is probably just filled to the brim with dumb anime gifs
Honestly, this sounds like a mafia who is talking about something actually happening in their chat.
Glad i’m not the only one who had this silly thought

would be hilarious if it were true

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:28 pm There’s this dope new anime I’m watching called Sword Art Online. Have you heard of it

@DaughterOfOmega
Please don't troll me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance

Still mafia.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm sloonei long con esooa alison dom falcon townleans

the tier slightly below that contains c4 and martin. my read on c4 is in flux right now and i'm having trouble nailing down a solid stance tbh

actively worried about jackofhearts, boknows, urist, rej

everyone else is w/e

Tell me what’s wrong with the other three of us eh?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm sloonei long con esooa alison dom falcon townleans

the tier slightly below that contains c4 and martin. my read on c4 is in flux right now and i'm having trouble nailing down a solid stance tbh

actively worried about jackofhearts, boknows, urist, rej

everyone else is w/e

oh im a little worried about nanook and poison too

and while i'm thinking about poison, i dont think that poison/rej are likely to be on the same faction. the way that rej specifically brought attention to poison playing within the realm of her scum meta just isnt the type of bussing that scum does to their partner, imo

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance
Still mafia.

weak

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:07 pm I just want to say this to my fellow faction members.

"I hate Mr.House and Caesar."

Roger roger

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance
Still mafia.
weak

still haven't read about 75% of the stuff from the last 8 hours as well. So there really hasn’t been a chance for my read to change.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:33 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance
Still mafia.
weak
still haven't read about 75% of the stuff from the last 8 hours as well. So there really hasn’t been a chance for my read to change.

understandable. i don't mean this in an accusatory way, but i am concerned about the fact that you haven't found me yet. our reads are eerily similar, and so are a number of our thought processes. so, where is the dissonance stemming from? am i being pocketed by you? do you think that i'm trying to pocket you? what is the barrier that's keeping us from finding each other?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:34 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:31 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:44 pm BK copying foresight's readslist format eerily close is a scumtell.
Is this another "they put it together in scumchat" thing? 'Cause I'm so over that unlikely concept.

Back in the day I think we would have called it blendy.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:16 pm Yeah, Imma go ahead & [VOTE: VOTE BK] aubergine, but gotta say...C4 counting BK as a pelt before a flip? Def scum lean
In general or if BK flips scum?

honestly it's a bad line of reasoning since there's more than one baddie faction.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:37 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance
Still mafia.
weak
still haven't read about 75% of the stuff from the last 8 hours as well. So there really hasn’t been a chance for my read to change.
understandable. i don't mean this in an accusatory way, but i am concerned about the fact that you haven't found me yet. our reads are eerily similar, and so are a number of our thought processes. so, where is the dissonance stemming from? am i being pocketed by you? do you think that i'm trying to pocket you? what is the barrier that's keeping us from finding each other?

I don’t remember feeling like we had similar reads when I left for work, so if that has happened, I haven’t read it yet.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:38 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm sloonei long con esooa alison dom falcon townleans

the tier slightly below that contains c4 and martin. my read on c4 is in flux right now and i'm having trouble nailing down a solid stance tbh

actively worried about jackofhearts, boknows, urist, rej

everyone else is w/e
Tell me what’s wrong with the other three of us eh?

urist - lazily signal boosted the momentum against me at the peak of the moment when i was being pressured, and then ducked out of the thread. has not addressed any of my questions. had an incredibly confident scumread on long con that was shaping a big part of their perception of their game - a read that seems to have disappeared w/out explanation in their most recent string of posts. (is that because he doesn't think that long con is enclave? i don't know, i'm just worried about the confidence on a lot of reads that i think are probably just outright incorrect)

boknows - felt confident enough to post an entire readslist at a point when the rest of his posts were 100% filler - reads reeked of TMI (his reasoning for townreading me was vague and generic, he gave similar reasoning for both poison and long con but then reached completely different conclusions - i think esooa pointed that out already)

rej - posts have felt overly focused on keeping up the appearance of solving - piggybacked off of the thing that i was being pressured for on page 3 and then kept the same read on page ~20ish in a way that felt static. i don't get the sense that rej's reads are fluid, dynamic, or in the state of development. they feel like conclusions that he reached because he feels like he needs to reach conclusions, as opposed to conclusions that form from just organically approaching the game w/a detective mindset

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:39 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:37 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance
Still mafia.
weak
still haven't read about 75% of the stuff from the last 8 hours as well. So there really hasn’t been a chance for my read to change.
understandable. i don't mean this in an accusatory way, but i am concerned about the fact that you haven't found me yet. our reads are eerily similar, and so are a number of our thought processes. so, where is the dissonance stemming from? am i being pocketed by you? do you think that i'm trying to pocket you? what is the barrier that's keeping us from finding each other?
I don’t remember feeling like we had similar reads when I left for work, so if that has happened, I haven’t read it yet.

how about viewtopic.php?p=738323#p738323 ?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:40 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:40 pm This is just a contrived and fake read on martin stemming from assumptions about the contents of wolf BTSC that are at best dubious and at worst TMI. c4 is scum.

Also big sad at spending 11 years flatlining town and scum play and getting caught by a fucking plinko board

Huh?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:43 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 pm sloonei long con esooa alison dom falcon townleans

the tier slightly below that contains c4 and martin. my read on c4 is in flux right now and i'm having trouble nailing down a solid stance tbh

actively worried about jackofhearts, boknows, urist, rej

everyone else is w/e
Tell me what’s wrong with the other three of us eh?
urist - lazily signal boosted the momentum against me at the peak of the moment when i was being pressured, and then ducked out of the thread. has not addressed any of my questions. had an incredibly confident scumread on long con that was shaping a big part of their perception of their game - a read that seems to have disappeared w/out explanation in their most recent string of posts. (is that because he doesn't think that long con is enclave? i don't know, i'm just worried about the confidence on a lot of reads that i think are probably just outright incorrect)

boknows - felt confident enough to post an entire readslist at a point when the rest of his posts were 100% filler - reads reeked of TMI (his reasoning for townreading me was vague and generic, he gave similar reasoning for both poison and long con but then reached completely different conclusions - i think esooa pointed that out already)

rej - posts have felt overly focused on keeping up the appearance of solving - piggybacked off of the thing that i was being pressured for on page 3 and then kept the same read on page ~20ish in a way that felt static. i don't get the sense that rej's reads are fluid, dynamic, or in the state of development. they feel like conclusions that he reached because he feels like he needs to reach conclusions, as opposed to conclusions that form from just organically approaching the game w/a detective mindset

If this was my entire understanding of the game, I wouldn’t be concerned with Rej based on that.

I’d also question my TMI suspicions cause this is multiball.

I am at least interested in the progression of the LC read from Urist and Bo’s readlist. This was a real readlist? Not a meme?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:43 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:39 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:37 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:25 pm @Sloonei -

not to rush you, but i want to hear your take on my alignment right now as soon as you get the chance
Still mafia.
weak
still haven't read about 75% of the stuff from the last 8 hours as well. So there really hasn’t been a chance for my read to change.
understandable. i don't mean this in an accusatory way, but i am concerned about the fact that you haven't found me yet. our reads are eerily similar, and so are a number of our thought processes. so, where is the dissonance stemming from? am i being pocketed by you? do you think that i'm trying to pocket you? what is the barrier that's keeping us from finding each other?
I don’t remember feeling like we had similar reads when I left for work, so if that has happened, I haven’t read it yet.
how about viewtopic.php?p=738323#p738323 ?

Many of those are similar to reads I’ve expressed. I’m more comfortable with my townread on c4. I have no read on rej or urist.

I struggle to accept the “mindmeld” angle because I can’t be sure you’re not actively angling for that by mirroring reads. Maybe things will come out when I’ve read things. Until then, I can’t really say much more.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:44 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:40 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:37 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:36 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.
who in the world is foresight
Alright this is legit Martin doesn't have BTSC fite me
What in the sam hell is BTSC?

Kinda sounds like a sammich

Is this a joke?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:59 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:58 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:55 pm "martin doesn't have BTSC because he doesn't know who foresight is" is a bad read since I doubt the scum BTSC is filled with discussion about the etymology of foresight's name
"Foresight" is the single most common nick I've gotten so far. Even if my earlier BTSC theory was pure tinfoil, my name sure came up in BTSC soon after. Way too many ways he would know, way too few ways he wouldn't.
I don't see why you're so certain about this

this is honestly a bullshit read and you're back to being just scum for trying to force narratives like this

I'm incined to agree iwth Aison here. It's exactly what I've been saying since my first post: vague bullshit in a contrived box.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:32 pm I've played this game for 11 years, and I've very very rarely see two readslist formatted so alike. Each person has their own unique way of formatting their readslist, like a personal signature, and the BK readslist and the foresight readslist were formatted identically. When two signatures from two different people are identical I start to think one is a forgery.

Though, I found this to be a stretch. It's not the format that's sus. It's the contents.

[VOTE: C4] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:46 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:08 pm Because like he can’t be not town

Why’s that?

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:46 pm**

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:46 pm**

[VOTE: c4e5g3d5] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:48 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:20 pm

ur spelling my name rong : (

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:49 pm**

Jay would be pissed at how hard an interactive iso with Epi would be. Fine for him what with not being in the game.

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:50 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:20 pm

you dropped this:

when i wus at dominick's he tolded me that c4 had no izzues answering spf's questions, but our questions were redundant and too boring to answer
i w0nder y

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:50 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:32 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:29 pm Alison, esooa, grogu, nanook, dom, mac, chopchop, sloonei, falcon, epi, tsp all seem townish in roughly that order

C4 still obviously maf
Poison still maf
Spf still maf
remind me why poison is maf

also talk to me about mac and chopchop townreads.

looking through poison's iso, there are a lot of things that stick out to me.
initially my read was based on something silly that tends to be somewhat accurate: poison implied tsp was mafia without actually saying it. regardless of whether this is a joke or not i've found it's a pretty decent scumtell.
it's been made clear that it wasn't a joke though, but poison hasn't voted yet.
then there's the asking me about a random other player,
half-assed breadcrumb,
feeling the need to respond to an accusation with a joke,
complaining about the thread being boring,
it all reads like someone who isn't that interested in yeeting enclave.

wrt chopchop, i read their posts as wolfish at first, but after a reread they just seem to suit what i would expect of the townplay of someone with a bionicle avatar. like if you look into his posts, the recent ones are not terrible.

wrt mac i'm just being lazy and hoping he gets nk'd

Posted: **Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:51 pm**

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