The Syndicate

Also the only things from that post that have changed are I swapped you and bo

Besides realizing lc is dead ofc

So idk that saying its like it vanished is a reasonable take

Why was LC originally in your POE? Wasn't he the one who buried Falcon?

Also what made you POE Bo originally before realizing it was not a good idea

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people

i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:16 am Also what made you POE Bo originally before realizing it was not a good idea

Thinking you're probably town

I didn't have much reason to think bo was town and the wagon on him d1 made some sense if mafia got trapped into cross bussing imo, since if you were town there was a ratrug wagon they could've at least tied

Looking more at quin and how he handled falcon and comparing that to how he handled bo made/makes me think that's a bad take and bo is probably town

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people

i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place

If you're asking me to read the entire thread

No

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people

i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place

to be clear nobody thinks you're actively suspicious

like the most suspicious thing you've done is your talk about interactions with quin but I think that can easily come from town you frustrated that he's shoehorned into the POE because of a perceived lack of effort

POE just means other people have done things to clear themselves and you haven't. Which again is not necessarily a bad thing. People with very limited scum ranges find it easy to clear themselves, for instance.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:24 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people

i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place

If you're asking me to read the entire thread

No

you don't have to read the thread just read stuff relating to things you plan to talk about or vote because of

but also like.... mood though

so what you're saying is that i'm consistently in endgame PoE's without justification because i'm better at being enigmatic than everyone else

i can accept that

imo the easiest way to get out of a POE is to be good at finding scum and burying them

if you do that often enough people will stop POEing you

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:30 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:24 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:08 am The poe is not such a bad place to be

Its not cause of anything specific you did theres just stronger reasons to TR other people

i don't mind being in the PoE, playing well as town should by default put you in outskirts of the PoE. i mind when it looks like players are capitalizing on my low effort play to cast shade on me without actually looking at my words or actions or the context in which they took place

If you're asking me to read the entire thread

No

you don't have to read the thread just read stuff relating to things you plan to talk about or vote because of

but also like.... mood though

I'm not voting you am I

If it helps your ego if Sean flips town you can kill me then you, idc

And, like, I'm not calling you scum, you're just in a poe cause there's a ton of people who have been very townie

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:33 am imo the easiest way to get out of a POE is to be good at finding scum and burying them

if you do that often enough people will stop POEing you

easiest way to get out of poe is trust tell actually

The easiest way to get out of the poe is to die early

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:13 am Also the only things from that post that have changed are I swapped you and bo

Besides realizing lc is dead ofc

hm

in the process of compiling posts to show what i meant i realized what i saw as an inconsistency was actually a problem in my reading comprehension

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:42 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:13 am Also the only things from that post that have changed are I swapped you and bo

Besides realizing lc is dead ofc

hm

in the process of compiling posts to show what i meant i realized what i saw as an inconsistency was actually a problem in my reading comprehension

Relatable

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:33 am imo the easiest way to get out of a POE is to be good at finding scum and burying them

if you do that often enough people will stop POEing you

oof no thanks, nice try officer

i don't have the time or energy to powertown as mafia so i don't do it as town either. i put in effort where it's needed and where it's not i don't, and it works. if people can't read me because of that they should just get good basically.

in any case you've brought up some good points and i think you're right. aside from falcon and quin coming at me and not saving falcon i don't think there's any strong reason to see me as town. i've been swimming this game cus of personal stuff, and with only one mafia left there's no other way to concretely demonstrate alignment. so i don't mind getting yeeted or beesparadoed, (before lylo, but after seanzie and nanook)

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:19 am in any case you've brought up some good points and i think you're right. aside from falcon and quin coming at me and not saving falcon i don't think there's any strong reason to see me as town. i've been swimming this game cus of personal stuff, and with only one mafia left there's no other way to concretely demonstrate alignment. so i don't mind getting yeeted or beesparadoed, (before lylo, but after seanzie and nanook)

you can't get shot we only get 1 gun a game

oh i thought it said we got 3 of them

@ts account what are you thinking about the two lynch candidates?

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:18 am @ts account what are you thinking about the two lynch candidates?

Or kyle for that matter

How's everyone feeling?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am How's everyone feeling?

For me this is the toughest lynch. All the other lynches I felt there were more clear candidates, whereas this one I feel like there are two or three people who it could be but have all also seemed town a lot. So it’s a guess really.
Add on top of that, there is only one mafia left, so the game could be over with a right guess, but with a wrong one I’m almost certainly getting night killed tonight and I lose.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:27 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am How's everyone feeling?

For me this is the toughest lynch. All the other lynches I felt there were more clear candidates, whereas this one I feel like there are two or three people who it could be but have all also seemed town a lot. So it’s a guess really.
Add on top of that, there is only one mafia left, so the game could be over with a right guess, but with a wrong one I’m almost certainly getting night killed tonight and I lose.

you win even if you're dead now

I'm mostly just waiting for seanzie to check in. If he stays radio silent I'm going to assume he's scum who's given up and just vote him out.

There is a lot of pressure. Tbh when I saw the beesparado PM, I just assumed I was going to shoot wrong and it was game over for me. But then I survived that, and got a little taste of victory and I want to win it all. I almost never win.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:31 am

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:27 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am How's everyone feeling?

For me this is the toughest lynch. All the other lynches I felt there were more clear candidates, whereas this one I feel like there are two or three people who it could be but have all also seemed town a lot. So it’s a guess really.
Add on top of that, there is only one mafia left, so the game could be over with a right guess, but with a wrong one I’m almost certainly getting night killed tonight and I lose.

you win even if you're dead now

Technically, yes. Personally, no. It’ll be hard for me to ever consider it a real win if I don’t make it to the end.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:32 am I'm mostly just waiting for seanzie to check in. If he stays radio silent I'm going to assume he's scum who's given up and just vote him out.

I definitely feel out of the past days activity of the top lynch contenders (I forgot what PoE means, but I think PoE is applicable here) his looks the worst. Nanook has been around and helpful. Kyle has been around and helping as much as personal life will allow. Both their responses just look better.

Now I also take this with a grain of salt because Quin was around and posting a lot at the end too, but maybe that’s why Quin seemed so frustrated.

A lot of my thoughts and reason for my vote for nanook over Seanzie was the theory that it wasn’t likely a mafia team would all vote for the same person day 1 to save a teammate. But it’s entirely possible, so @Alison you know Seanzie better? Does that fit with playstyle? Because if I throw out that theory, Seanzie’s votes are worse of the two, plus worse thread activity.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:27 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am How's everyone feeling?

For me this is the toughest lynch. All the other lynches I felt there were more clear candidates, whereas this one I feel like there are two or three people who it could be but have all also seemed town a lot. So it’s a guess really.
Add on top of that, there is only one mafia left, so the game could be over with a right guess, but with a wrong one I’m almost certainly getting night killed tonight and I lose.

Dead town win with town, fyi

Not super happy about being in the PoE, but my reads have been pretty bad, so I get it.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:27 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:24 am How's everyone feeling?

For me this is the toughest lynch. All the other lynches I felt there were more clear candidates, whereas this one I feel like there are two or three people who it could be but have all also seemed town a lot. So it’s a guess really.
Add on top of that, there is only one mafia left, so the game could be over with a right guess, but with a wrong one I’m almost certainly getting night killed tonight and I lose.

I agree. I feel like from this point on it's going to be a matter of who's more towny. I'm not sold on anyone tbh.

Unvoting for now. Need to read more into Seanzie a little more.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:24 am Unvoting for now. Need to read more into Seanzie a little more.

Let me know if you have any questions. I'm probably dying either today or tomorrow if the game lasts that long, but Nook is my only real suspect right now, so I'd rather flip him first so that if we don't win, I know I need to re-evalulate the game and can try to leave a helpful legacy.

Briefly went through Sean's ISO. Honestly, I feel comfortable with letting Sean live. Alison mentioned how sean's handling of the gun situation was a "distrust", and I disagree with that assessment. Sean told Finger to shoot someone in their PoE, and not to overthink it.

Yeah Sean's votes aren't great but like what Finger already pointed out would all 3 mafia push me D1? I can't comment on the ratrug vote because I also got that one wrong.

I'd be more comfortable letting Seanzie live than NANOOK atm.

To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

Idk I think its pretty consistent

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

Idk I think its pretty consistent

Having a list of people you town read, then explaining your reads on others when asked to explain the one group isn't consistent

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:57 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

Idk I think its pretty consistent

Having a list of people you town read, then explaining your reads on others when asked to explain the one group isn't consistent

I don't really follow this at all

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reads on just about everyone haven't i?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:58 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:57 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

Idk I think its pretty consistent

Having a list of people you town read, then explaining your reads on others when asked to explain the one group isn't consistent

I don't really follow this at all

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reads on just about everyone haven't i?

You did. It was just the way it all unfolded felt bad to me. I don't understand the thought process of providing reasons of alignment for players I didn't ask for.

I don't understand the thought process of providing reasons of for alignment for of players I didn't ask for.

english is hard

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:58 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:57 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:55 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:38 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 1:14 pm To add to what I said about Seanzie, the way NANOOK answered my questions about their read list is still sus to me.

Yeah not agreeing with someone makes them super sus, totes mcgoats

Nah I just didn't like your reasoning, and the inconsistencies of your read list and the people you explained

Idk I think its pretty consistent

Having a list of people you town read, then explaining your reads on others when asked to explain the one group isn't consistent

I don't really follow this at all

I'm pretty sure I've explained my reads on just about everyone haven't i?

You did. It was just the way it all unfolded felt bad to me. I don't understand the thought process of providing reasons of alignment for players I didn't ask for.

I genuinely don't understand your problem this seems incredibly dumb to me but ok ig

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice

Why do you have these people cleared?

Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes

Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town

This is the most recent questions you asked me that I could find and....

I literally did answer with reasons for the reads on the players you asked about?

You asked about martin mikey and esooa, I answered about Martin mikey and esooa

What the actual fuck are you talking about

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:08 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice

Why do you have these people cleared?

Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes

Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town

This is the most recent questions you asked me that I could find and....

I literally did answer with reasons for the reads on the players you asked about?

You asked about martin mikey and esooa, I answered about Martin mikey and esooa

What the actual fuck are you talking about

Wait a second....

You're right. I'm sorry Nanook I am out to lunch holy shit. Talk about scramble brain... Nonetheless I disagree with the reason to clear them as town.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 24, 2021 2:08 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:31 pm Ok so martin mikey esooa clear

Kyle soft clear

Fingers obviously clear

Alison probably fine

So seanzie lc bo me is probably a winning poe yeah?

Nice

Why do you have these people cleared?

Martin cause Alison says hes town mikey and esooa off votes and pushes

Esooa tends much more towards gard defending or distancing partners ime, don't think she's normally a hell busser, mikey i don't think tries to solo run this game pretty sure he's just town

This is the most recent questions you asked me that I could find and....

I literally did answer with reasons for the reads on the players you asked about?

You asked about martin mikey and esooa, I answered about Martin mikey and esooa

What the actual fuck are you talking about

Wait a second....

You're right. I'm sorry Nanook I am out to lunch holy shit. Talk about scramble brain... Nonetheless I disagree with the reason to clear them as town.

No worries I was just deeply confused


Which reasons do you disagree with? I mean I think they're pretty solid tbh