The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:50 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:57 pm sig, at what point did you ever forget that I was in this?

I answered that, when I made a list ranking all the player from civ to mafia you weren't on it I forgot you.

So that qualifies as "keep forgetting?"

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:13 pm and wow I keep forgetting that Epi is in this game, and he didnt do any day 1 shenanigans. I'd put him as Mafia maybe on my list.

Your words.

"Keep forgetting" is a tense that implies you have habitually done this. This remark came after you made that list. When did you forget me before?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:50 pm Now I'm worried about what luna does to speedchuck in the privacy of their own home when speed puts timers on the polls. I feel like we've walked in on something.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:54 pm This is some sloppy shit from sig. That's all I've got to say.

[VOTE: insertnamehere] aubergine

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm lol if INH is an indy and all these pages of us arguing has been useless

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:54 pm This is some sloppy shit from sig. That's all I've got to say.

[VOTE: insertnamehere] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm lol if INH is an indy and all these pages of us arguing has been useless

Doesn't rationalise your behaviour one bit. What it does is make your irrational behaviour forgiveable.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:48 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:39 pm By the way, in case it eluded anybody's attention, INH all but claimed not to be a civilian.

It did elude my attention. Could you point this out?

Because if INH is indy it's not impossible that sig is town and just being suspicious because that's how he does things.

I'm surprised nobody has said anything.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:42 am I thought Scotty's D1 voting pattern was weird and suspicious enough for me to vote for him, however, if he later went against what made me suspicious, I was open to changing it to someone else.

Quin is trying to put me in a situation where I either post the details of my role, proving that I'm not a threat to the civilians, or he's gonna make me look like a confirmed baddie, and serve my head on a platter.

But apparently the first is malevolent blackmail, and the second is okay, kosher civ behavior.


Linki:

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:34 am Why should I care about your role? Scum gets fakeclaims.

What? I thought fake-claims were more character based. Like, if everyone said the name of their role, and three of the names were obvious bad guys in time-travel related tales, then fakeclaims would allow them to at least appear as simpatico, non-enemy sounding roles. That's how I used them in the games I've hosted. I'm not familiar with fake-claims including fake abilities.

Well, what the fuck do you want from me, Quin? If literally nothing I can say about myself or my role could change anything, fuck it.

Might as well ignore you then.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:57 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:54 pm This is some sloppy shit from sig. That's all I've got to say.

[VOTE: insertnamehere] aubergine

Nah dog. Nah. This ain't cool at all.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

16 players

You're trying to decide the next three lynches in a game where we might not even have 5 phases?

like we're down to 14. Nutella was a night action so high chane she's civ and I'd say Zeph is civ we're down to 14. IF Quin and INH are civs along with me who am I civ we'd be down to 8 players.

Like this level of lynch planning makes me very uncomfortable with you Epi.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

16 players

You're trying to decide the next three lynches in a game where we might not even have 5 phases?

like we're down to 14. Nutella was a night action so high chane she's civ and I'd say Zeph is civ we're down to 14. IF Quin and INH are civs along with me who am I civ we'd be down to 8 players.

Like this level of lynch planning makes me very uncomfortable with you Epi.

News flash:

I don't care how uncomfortable you are with me. Get comfortable.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm If inh is indy I don't see him as threatening. If those words are a slip they will be full truth, which would also mean he isn't a threat to civilians.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm lol if INH is an indy and all these pages of us arguing has been useless

Doesn't rationalise your behaviour one bit. What it does is make your irrational behaviour forgiveable.

Why would it make his behaviour forgiveable? As has been pointed out, if he's civilian it would make just as much sense for him to presume inh is indy or mafia from the outset.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm If inh is indy I don't see him as threatening. If those words are a slip they will be full truth, which would also mean he isn't a threat to civilians.

I suspect you again.

The first thing a caught mafia does in that scenario is claim to be independent. You're defending him.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

16 players

You're trying to decide the next three lynches in a game where we might not even have 5 phases?

like we're down to 14. Nutella was a night action so high chane she's civ and I'd say Zeph is civ we're down to 14. IF Quin and INH are civs along with me who am I civ we'd be down to 8 players.

Like this level of lynch planning makes me very uncomfortable with you Epi.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:00 pm We should lynch sig today to avoid this whole Day 3/Day 4 whatever the fuck he's spewing. He's also the worst looking of the two.

Leave INH alive until Day 4. This is important. Please.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:00 pm We should lynch sig today to avoid this whole Day 3/Day 4 whatever the fuck he's spewing. He's also the worst looking of the two.

Leave INH alive until Day 4. This is important. Please.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm If inh is indy I don't see him as threatening. If those words are a slip they will be full truth, which would also mean he isn't a threat to civilians.

I suspect you again.

The first thing a caught mafia does in that scenario is claim to be independent. You're defending him.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

16 players

You're trying to decide the next three lynches in a game where we might not even have 5 phases?

like we're down to 14. Nutella was a night action so high chane she's civ and I'd say Zeph is civ we're down to 14. IF Quin and INH are civs along with me who am I civ we'd be down to 8 players.

Like this level of lynch planning makes me very uncomfortable with you Epi.

And just to be clear, yes, yes I am trying to decide the next three lynches. And the three after that. Any issue with that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm If inh is indy I don't see him as threatening. If those words are a slip they will be full truth, which would also mean he isn't a threat to civilians.

I suspect you again.

The first thing a caught mafia does in that scenario is claim to be independent. You're defending him.

In my opinion the first thing a caught Mafia does in that scenario is question the validity of the information (ala Sig). A caught independent would almost certainly roleclaim at that juncture. A mafia to indie claim at that point before going after the validity of the information ... no doesn't seem right.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:53 pm I'd say INH is independent and sig is bad. Lynch both. Move on.

Then Quin for good measure.

16 players

You're trying to decide the next three lynches in a game where we might not even have 5 phases?

like we're down to 14. Nutella was a night action so high chane she's civ and I'd say Zeph is civ we're down to 14. IF Quin and INH are civs along with me who am I civ we'd be down to 8 players.

Like this level of lynch planning makes me very uncomfortable with you Epi.

And just to be clear, yes, yes I am trying to decide the next three lynches. And the three after that. Any issue with that?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm If inh is indy I don't see him as threatening. If those words are a slip they will be full truth, which would also mean he isn't a threat to civilians.

I suspect you again.

The first thing a caught mafia does in that scenario is claim to be independent. You're defending him.

In my opinion the first thing a caught Mafia does in that scenario is question the validity of the information (ala Sig). A caught independent would almost certainly roleclaim at that juncture. A mafia to indie claim at that point before going after the validity of the information ... no doesn't seem right.

As I said, lynch both.

Neither one responded with any enthusiasm. One all but claimed harmless independent (which we won't know if we lynch him) and the other questioned the message (which we won't know is true if we lynch him).

Get rid of both, says I.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:01 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm If inh is indy I don't see him as threatening. If those words are a slip they will be full truth, which would also mean he isn't a threat to civilians.

I suspect you again.

The first thing a caught mafia does in that scenario is claim to be independent. You're defending him.

In my opinion the first thing a caught Mafia does in that scenario is question the validity of the information (ala Sig). A caught independent would almost certainly roleclaim at that juncture. A mafia to indie claim at that point before going after the validity of the information ... no doesn't seem right.

As I said, lynch both.

Neither one responded with any enthusiasm. One all but claimed harmless independent (which we won't know if we lynch him) and the other questioned the message (which we won't know is true if we lynch him).

Get rid of both, says I.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm To those of you not named Epignosis or Golden.

If one of them is bad, who is it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm To those of you not named Epignosis or Golden.

If one of them is bad, who is it?

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm To those of you not named Epignosis or Golden.

If one of them is bad, who is it?

Golden.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:09 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:04 pm Also epi - provide an example of what you claim (mafia claim independent in situations like this). It would never have even occurred to me, but I also disagree, because if anything inh didn't 'claim' indy but 'slip' indy.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:08 pm Epi goes from voting his apparent mafia read to his indy read. Then claims his indy read is a mafia read. But if so, what's his sig read been all about, because this all started with the two clearly not being compatible with each other?

And Epi still wants to lynch both of them... even though he now apparently thinks INH is bad, with no evidence that sig would be indy...

His logic is all over the place inconsistent.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:14 pm Am I wrong to think INH is not claiming or slipping indie in that post? I interpreted it as “I could tell you my role but then I’d be a goner” but I can’t figure out what exactly he meant.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:11 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm To those of you not named Epignosis or Golden.

If one of them is bad, who is it?

Golden.

If I'm bad Quin is bad.

You can lie detect that motherfucker to the bank.